Court Finds 'Happy Endings' To Be Legitimate Massage Procedure

A friend of mine told me told me that he gets a massage at some Asian place. I asked him if it offers any extras, like happy ending. He responded that he doesn't want to discuss things like that over the phone. This is the third time somebody refuses to discuss something over the phone or asking me if I'm crazy for mentioning something during phone conversation because who knows, right?

Being an immigrant from the USSR before it turned into Russia, etc I can safely say that I've come the full circle.

The real trafficking places are almost impossible to find.

Shutting down a HJ place is a very simple, low risk operation that earns them some points, looks good on their resume and may lead to a promotion.

-BH.

[QUOTE=Lincoln54;4171841]Funny-a few years ago our attorney general could have been arrested for her sexual choices.[/QUOTE]Such a great point!!

It also made me think, maybe legalization could happen in my life. 20 years ago I though pot would Never be legal, now it's probably less than a decade from being legal nationally. And same for gay marriage. And gay marriage is disliked by "christians" more than prostitution! This Kraft thing maybe the first step in our long road.

[QUOTE=Dickpalmer;4172426]Such a great point!!

It also made me think, maybe legalization could happen in my life. 20 years ago I though pot would Never be legal, now it's probably less than a decade from being legal nationally. And same for gay marriage. And gay marriage is disliked by "christians" more than prostitution! This Kraft thing maybe the first step in our long road.[/QUOTE]'Christians' and conservatives might be an obstacle to total pot legalization (they are more of a drinking crowd) but they are are not a problem in regards to prostitution. The problem is that 'prostitution' is dislike by the other side, the feminists, the #MeToo-ists, as well as working women who intuitively see something that deep inside they are terrified of as well as jealous of (who said that women must be logical). They refuse to believe that it's often actually preserves their marriages from completely disintegrating. This whole largely invented and imagined phenomena of "human trafficking" is what mainly drives the antagonism towards legalization of prostitution and it sure is a baby of the left rather then the right. Not that it doesn't exist at all but it truly is very rare compared to fully consensual "trafficking" if you know what I mean.

There was a monger in previous posts who mentioned that his wife brought up Kraft over dinner table and he just kept silent. I think it was a mistake because silence sometimes speaks volumes. What he should've done is he should've shaken his head in dismay and said "that's disgusting" or something similar. I'm sure he'd seen his wife's face light up like a Christmas candle. They are totally illogically stupid in that regard. A female friend told me that she'd rather have her SO have a mistress (or two) then see commercial ladies because "that's dirty and disgusting". When I said that a mistress could actually pose a problem to her family while hookers in all likelihood won't and in fact probably serve to keep it together she would have none of it.

[QUOTE=Nrlmus;4172803]'Christians' and conservatives might be an obstacle to total pot legalization (they are more of a drinking crowd) but they are are not a problem in regards to prostitution. The problem is that 'prostitution' is dislike by the other side, the feminists, the #MeToo-ists, as well as working women who intuitively see something that deep inside they are terrified of as well as jealous of (who said that women must be logical). They refuse to believe that it's often actually preserves their marriages from completely disintegrating. This whole largely invented and imagined phenomena of "human trafficking" is what mainly drives the antagonism towards legalization of prostitution and it sure is a baby of the left rather then the right. Not that it doesn't exist at all but it truly is very rare compared to fully consensual "trafficking" if you know what I mean.

There was a monger in previous posts who mentioned that his wife brought up Kraft over dinner table and he just kept silent. I think it was a mistake because silence sometimes speaks volumes. What he should've done is he should've shaken his head in dismay and said "that's disgusting" or something similar. I'm sure he'd seen his wife's face light up like a Christmas candle. They are totally illogically stupid in that regard. A female friend told me that she'd rather have her SO have a mistress (or two) then see commercial ladies because "that's dirty and disgusting". When I said that a mistress could actually pose a problem to her family while hookers in all likelihood won't and in fact probably serve to keep it together she would have none of it.[/QUOTE]While of course it's true that the Woke crowd is ranting about trafficking, it was the GOP and Trump who instituted the laws that have crippled the internet for mongers and providers alike. That was done to throw a bone to the Christian base and wouldn't (and didn't) happen before the GOP controlled the White House and both houses of Congress. With neither side looking to provoke the other side's moralists, we may be stuck for a while.

Found this article on my AP News feed today. Some may find it interesting as it references (I believe) the notorious Coco and her bust from a few years back.

<[URL]https://apnews.com/6e0eb430041e431699ced179572f922f>[/URL].

[QUOTE=Bastardale;4170282]What bugs me the most about the recent events:

1. Trafficking actually happens in this industry, but I don't think anyone has ever proven that it's a widespread problem. So when they find actual trafficking going on, they need to shut that shit down quick and make an example of the people responsible. Calling every AMP sting a trafficking operation is ridiculous and serves no purpose. It's PR and legal jumbo that I feel is ultimately harmful.

2. If they actually thought human trafficking was going on at this spa in Florida, why the hell were the cops sitting on their asses for a week while innocent women were being raped? Because if it actually was trafficking, that's what would be happening. The police knew this was just an AMP takedown. Someone got their panties in a twist and demanded action, or someone wanted a raise, or PR, or someone is running for office, or someone wanted to embarrass one of the clients in particular.

Anyway that's my feeling on that.[/QUOTE]1) Trafficking sells more headlines.

2) the trumped up charges are there so that there's a greater chance of a plea and a "positive" win for the prosecution. See 3.

3) the legal system is just a joke and it's politics. Yes, there are real criminals, but there are also a lot of people facing charges and people that were "dumb" and take pleas just to get it over with because it is the path of least resistance. Fighting the charges is expensive, time consuming and you never know what way the wind will blow with your judge who's ultimately human and may be having a bad day. It sucks, because this shit ruins lives.

[QUOTE=Plastermoon;4172962]While of course it's true that the Woke crowd is ranting about trafficking, it was the GOP and Trump who instituted the laws that have crippled the internet for mongers and providers alike. That was done to throw a bone to the Christian base and wouldn't (and didn't) happen before the GOP controlled the White House and both houses of Congress. With neither side looking to provoke the other side's moralists, we may be stuck for a while.[/QUOTE]The reality is that FOSTA passed the house by a 388-25 vote with 14 republicans and 11 democrats voting no and the senate by a 97-2 vote with 1 democrat and 1 republican voting no. Place blame where blame is due.

I just received two seperate emails. One from oneback page and the other from p411. Backpage a 10 credit for me to post something and p411 an free opportunity to renew my acct. I will add my account has been inactive for well over 3 years.

Why now on the same day do I recieve these offers. I am not responding but it has my thinking something is not right.

First, let me say I hope I am still going to AMPs at 77 and getting off twice in two days He is an inspiration to us older mongers.

I have a feeling he has been going to the place for a long time, someone spotted him and they set up this elaborate sting to catch him and other celebs so the cops and politicians can gain notoriety. Maybe as Dolphins fans they also hope that cocksucker Goodell takes away more draft choices.

I hope Kraft is one of the mongers on here. He can afford to fight this to the end. Unless there is audio of a quid pro quo, how can they find him guilty? Fight it Bob. Also think about the de facto punishment here we all could suffer like public humiliation possible loss of job and marriage, etc. Which is far greater than the de jure fine. How does that square with the recent unanimous SCOTUS decision on unreasonable punishment? Maybe a lawyer monger can weigh in here?

But maybe Bob can also lead the charge for legalization. That would be a legacy almost as good as six rings.

[QUOTE=JoeMuckInFutch;4174480]First, let me say I hope I am still going to AMPs at 77 and getting off twice in two days He is an inspiration to us older mongers.

I have a feeling he has been going to the place for a long time, someone spotted him and they set up this elaborate sting to catch him and other celebs so the cops and politicians can gain notoriety. Maybe as Dolphins fans they also hope that cocksucker Goodell takes away more draft choices.

I hope Kraft is one of the mongers on here. He can afford to fight this to the end. Unless there is audio of a quid pro quo, how can they find him guilty? Fight it Bob. Also think about the de facto punishment here we all could suffer like public humiliation possible loss of job and marriage, etc. Which is far greater than the de jure fine. How does that square with the recent unanimous SCOTUS decision on unreasonable punishment? Maybe a lawyer monger can weigh in here?

But maybe Bob can also lead the charge for legalization. That would be a legacy almost as good as six rings.[/QUOTE]I totally agree. If they did not recognize Kraft and knew he frequented, would have just closed down the place rather than go for their elaborate scheme to get cameras in there.

He should be found not guilty for the charges if it even gets that far. But in the odd circumstance does not turn out that way, will bode ill for all.

[QUOTE=Sounds;4174644]I totally agree. If they did not recognize Kraft and knew he frequented, would have just closed down the place rather than go for their elaborate scheme to get cameras in there.

He should be found not guilty for the charges if it even gets that far. But in the odd circumstance does not turn out that way, will bode ill for all.[/QUOTE]I heard that the traffic stop that Identified him was illegal and that the videos are going to ruled as inadmissible as none of the parties involved gave permission. So he may get off on a technicality.

[QUOTE]He should be found not guilty for the charges if it even gets that far. But in the odd circumstance does not turn out that way, will bode ill for all.[/QUOTE]It already will have a chilling effect on AMPs everywhere, as mongers everywhere will be considering whether or not it is worth the risk of walking into an establishment.

[QUOTE=OxyMoron;4174767]It already will have a chilling effect on AMPs everywhere, as mongers everywhere will be considering whether or not it is worth the risk of walking into an establishment.[/QUOTE]A vast majority of AMP already have security cameras so SMILE.

Unless they bugged the room being used all they will see is you paying the house for a massage.

[QUOTE=DoubleDippin;4174828]A vast majority of AMP already have security cameras so SMILE.

Unless they bugged the room being used all they will see is you paying the house for a massage.[/QUOTE]There are also some places that only provide a massage. Wonder how they will be impacted through all this. Some folks will assume all Asian massage places are the same.