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[QUOTE=SamSpade;4747514]The good news. I just saw a report. Tucker Carlson interviewing a doctor, professor of medicine and Stanford. The doctor is saying that as the data comes in, it appears that a whole lot more people were infected with the coronavirus, as the antibodies in their bloodwork shows, but were asymptomatic the entire time. Based on this, the probably death rate is going to be more like 1 / 1000, a tenth of a percent, and not the 4 to 6 percent we've been hearing about.

The bad news. The good doctor says we don't have a vaccine and won't for some time. So if you are in an At Risk group, maybe you want to still practice your social distancing.

I'd love to try and convince myself that my almost 60 year old ass is not at risk, since I don't smoke, take care of myself, and was healthy all winter. On the other hand, I had a flu shot in October.[/QUOTE]March 10 - April 15 40,000 people died from Covid. According to the CDC, as of today there are approx 1 million cases with 56,000 deaths which is 5.6%. That's not a political statement from either side but rather a mathmetical fact and it's all I need to know to stay away from this hobby until this all settles down.

[QUOTE=AvgJoe;4762845]March 10 - April 15 40,000 people died from Covid. According to the CDC, as of today there are approx 1 million cases with 56,000 deaths which is 5.6%. That's not a political statement from either side but rather a mathmetical fact and it's all I need to know to stay away from this hobby until this all settles down.[/QUOTE]Reported cases are being found to be dramatically smaller than actual cases, thus the inflation in your numbers. Use better ones.

[QUOTE=ReadyForRub;4763936]Reported cases are being found to be dramatically smaller than actual cases, thus the inflation in your numbers. Use better ones.[/QUOTE]Those are numbers from Fox, CNN, CDC, CNBC, the White House and almost every reporting agency. I didn't make it up so why don't you look it up yourself.

On the CDC website today, as of April 28th, recorded are 981,246 cases and 55,258 deaths which equates out to 5. 5%.

So how many actual cases are there and where do you get your info?

[QUOTE=AvgJoe;4764130]Those are numbers from Fox, CNN, CDC, CNBC, the White House and almost every reporting agency. I didn't make it up so why don't you look it up yourself.

On the CDC website today, as of April 28th, recorded are 981,246 cases and 55,258 deaths which equates out to 5. 5%.

So how many actual cases are there and where do you get your info?[/QUOTE]First of all 25% (some say 50% have it and don't know it) of people with a positive test do not develop symptoms. What that means, many have been exposed, but had no need to get tested be / c they never felt sick. Which means the percentage of people with the virus is probably much greater. Those that were tested and had zero symptoms were tested because they were in close proximity with someone that got sick and tested positive.

[URL]https://www.healthline.com/health-news/50-percent-of-people-with-covid19-not-aware-have-virus[/URL]

[URL]https://www.healthline.com/health-news/what-to-know-about-controversial-study-finding-85-of-people-with-covid-dont-have-symptoms[/URL]#Study-findings-and-concerns-from-statisticiansIt has also been documented and reported on, many deaths were automatically being coded as covid-19. (because the reimbursement rates were greater ie:

[URL]https://www.dailywire.com/news/yes-hospitals-get-paid-more-for-coronavirus-coded-patients-even-if-they-havent-been-tested[/URL]

[URL]https://www.npr.org/sections/coronavirus-live-updates/2020/04/08/829506542/after-deaths-at-home-in-nyc-officials-plan-to-count-many-as-covid-19[/URL]

Lastly, if you look at the death totals and the demographics, almost all deaths were elderly and / or people with existing medical conditions. Very few, a statistically insignificant number have been young and relatively healthy, but obviously the death was significant to the victim and their family. I think we will all get exposed eventually. Social distancing just drags out the inevitable. Social distancing was implemented as a way to avoid hospitals from getting overwhelmed, not a means to keep people from catching the virus. Slow the spread, but you can't stop it.

[QUOTE=GMan25;4764517]First of all 25% (some say 50% have it and don't know it) of people with a positive test do not develop symptoms. What that means, many have been exposed, but had no need to get tested be / c they never felt sick. Which means the percentage of people with the virus is probably much greater. Those that were tested and had zero symptoms were tested because they were in close proximity with someone that got sick and tested positive.

[URL]https://www.healthline.com/health-news/50-percent-of-people-with-covid19-not-aware-have-virus[/URL]

[URL]https://www.healthline.com/health-news/what-to-know-about-controversial-study-finding-85-of-people-with-covid-dont-have-symptoms[/URL]#Study-findings-and-concerns-from-statisticiansIt has also been documented and reported on, many deaths were automatically being coded as covid-19. (because the reimbursement rates were greater ie:

[URL]https://www.dailywire.com/news/yes-hospitals-get-paid-more-for-coronavirus-coded-patients-even-if-they-havent-been-tested[/URL]

[URL]https://www.npr.org/sections/coronavirus-live-updates/2020/04/08/829506542/after-deaths-at-home-in-nyc-officials-plan-to-count-many-as-covid-19[/URL]

Lastly, if you look at the death totals and the demographics, almost all deaths were elderly and / or people with existing medical conditions. Very few, a statistically insignificant number have been young and relatively healthy, but obviously the death was significant to the victim and their family. I think we will all get exposed eventually. Social distancing just drags out the inevitable. Social distancing was implemented as a way to avoid hospitals from getting overwhelmed, not a means to keep people from catching the virus. Slow the spread, but you can't stop it.[/QUOTE]I'm not an expert on Covid 19 or the reporting like some on here. All I was saying is that considering the number of cases, it's enough to keep me away from this until everything settles down. And, that's all I was saying.

To that point, it's interesting that the 3 AMP girls I see outside of their shops are now considering other careers out of fear of returning too soon. And, from what they say, several of their MP friends are considering the same. Can't wait for all this to be over so we can get back to business as usual.

[QUOTE=AvgJoe;4765219]I'm not an expert on Covid 19 or the reporting like some on here. All I was saying is that considering the number of cases, it's enough to keep me away from this until everything settles down. And, that's all I was saying.

To that point, it's interesting that the 3 AMP girls I see outside of their shops are now considering other careers out of fear of returning too soon. And, from what they say, several of their MP friends are considering the same. Can't wait for all this to be over so we can get back to business as usual.[/QUOTE]I'm out til I feel safe. I have 3 lined up for after everything settles down. Rocket Dork.

[QUOTE=RocketDork;4765248]I'm out til I feel safe. I have 3 lined up for after everything settles down. Rocket Dork.[/QUOTE]Good choice my friend.

[QUOTE=AvgJoe;4765219]I'm not an expert on Covid 19 or the reporting like some on here. All I was saying is that considering the number of cases, it's enough to keep me away from this until everything settles down. And, that's all I was saying.

To that point, it's interesting that the 3 AMP girls I see outside of their shops are now considering other careers out of fear of returning too soon. And, from what they say, several of their MP friends are considering the same. Can't wait for all this to be over so we can get back to business as usual.[/QUOTE]What others are being considered so we can BOLO for future opportunities.

[QUOTE=RocketDork;4765248]I'm out til I feel safe. I have 3 lined up for after everything settles down. Rocket Dork.[/QUOTE]If you don't mind sharing the info on the Asian woman, I will go see her next week. SaintChuck.

[QUOTE=SaintChuck;4766816]If you don't mind sharing the info on the Asian woman, I will go see her next week. SaintChuck.[/QUOTE]Sent you both a PM.

Has anyone else noticed an add between every two or three post? It is on every forum I look into.

Plus I can not PM anyone. Any info would help.

Thanks.

PP.

[QUOTE=AvgJoe;4765219]I'm not an expert on Covid 19 or the reporting like some on here. All I was saying is that considering the number of cases, it's enough to keep me away from this until everything settles down. And, that's all I was saying.

To that point, it's interesting that the 3 AMP girls I see outside of their shops are now considering other careers out of fear of returning too soon. And, from what they say, several of their MP friends are considering the same. Can't wait for all this to be over so we can get back to business as usual.[/QUOTE]Careers can these ladies be contemplating?

[QUOTE=HanginBalls;4783434]Careers can these ladies be contemplating?[/QUOTE]I hate to say it, but the AMP scene is going to be even shittier than it was before, when the AMP's do re-open. I have talked to 2 girls that will not return to AMP work, they will go to work at nail salons. I talked to a woman yesterday and her boss plans re-open on June 1. This woman said that she absolutely won't return on June 1 and that the earliest she would go back would be September. The AMP scene might be slim pickings when they finally re-open. SaintChuck.

Got a private message from a monger who has one post from 2005. He wanted some information. Should I give it to him? LOL Rocket Dork.

[QUOTE=SaintChuck;4784274]I hate to say it, but the AMP scene is going to be even shittier than it was before, when the AMP's do re-open. I have talked to 2 girls that will not return to AMP work, they will go to work at nail salons. I talked to a woman yesterday and her boss plans re-open on June 1. This woman said that she absolutely won't return on June 1 and that the earliest she would go back would be September. The AMP scene might be slim pickings when they finally re-open. SaintChuck.[/QUOTE]I hope that you are wrong sir. I stopped in at a shop in the KC K area (area still under lock down) I was greeted by 2 new ladies that were younger and cuter than the ones there in March. They weren't by any stretch of the imagination young spinners, probably a 7 on most scales. I was given good service at an expected price. My point is that the gals may change or move but I think there are others that will ready and willing to step up.