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Seven Disclaimer
[QUOTE=BigStar1;2295758]Definitely glad I did not have BBFS with her when I saw her. I know most of these girls are pretty clean, but this girl seems to have no limits on what or who she'll do. I've had a few girls offer BBFS in the past and I've always made sure to have a cover on. Still want to try out the Body Slide, but I guess I'll wait till I find one that I feel a little safer with. Thanks to Muffy for the heads up warning the other week. Anybody know anyone else doing Body slides??
Bigstar1.[/QUOTE]Ok Guy's Bare Back service may not be your cup of tea and that's fine but making comments like " I guess I'll wait till I find one that I feel a little safer with " could lead others to believe that Seven is carrying an STD. Has anyone here reported catching anything from her, No they have not! You guy's have this girl as an ebola carrier and there are no symptoms.
Again I would like to remind everyone here that no one has reported catching an STD from Seven or from any other girls at a Prov FS Asian spa.
If you guy's don't want to see girls that offer BB services find another hobby because most of these girls will do it. I have been keeping track over the years and here is how it plays out 70% of the asian spa girls I have asked for BBFS have given it right up, 30% of those girls allowed CIP. This includes girls at all the Prov FS spas.
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Ummm.
[QUOTE=Yellowfever023;2296062]Ok Guy's Bare Back service may not be your cup of tea and that's fine but making comments like " I guess I'll wait till I find one that I feel a little safer with " could lead others to believe that Seven is carrying an STD. Has anyone here reported catching anything from her, No they have not! You guy's have this girl as an ebola carrier and there are no symptoms.
Again I would like to remind everyone here that no one has reported catching an STD from Seven or from any other girls at a Prov FS Asian spa.
If you guy's don't want to see girls that offer BB services find another hobby because most of these girls will do it. I have been keeping track over the years and here is how it plays out 70% of the asian spa girls I have asked for BBFS have given it right up, 30% of those girls allowed CIP. This includes girls at all the Prov FS spas.[/QUOTE]When's the last time you read up on your STD / I's there bud? Symptoms don't have to appear right away or the next month or half a year for that matter. This hobby is fun and yes has it's dangers but to minute them is a must if in the future we wish to have it legalized and regulated. BB Anything is a open invitation to possible infections and even some STI's can be transmitted even with the cover on. Luckily STI's are curable but STD's are not. I guarantee you a few guys on this forum have one or the either and May or may not know it. Ones that do and don't know and do BB anything with these providers that offer it are just adds to the problem and raising your chances of stopping you cold. Well hopefully unless you decide to willingly continue with the hobby while your carrying. Point is play it safe, play it smart and you'll be in the game longer. Don't well we all must lie with the grave we dig sometime.
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[QUOTE=EmvLa;2296067]When's the last time you read up on your STD / I's there bud? Symptoms don't have to appear right away or the next month or half a year for that matter. This hobby is fun and yes has it's dangers but to minute them is a must if in the future we wish to have it legalized and regulated. BB Anything is a open invitation to possible infections and even some STI's can be transmitted even with the cover on. Luckily STI's are curable but STD's are not. I guarantee you a few guys on this forum have one or the either and May or may not know it. Ones that do and don't know and do BB anything with these providers that offer it are just adds to the problem and raising your chances of stopping you cold. Well hopefully unless you decide to willingly continue with the hobby while your carrying. Point is play it safe, play it smart and you'll be in the game longer. Don't well we all must lie with the grave we dig sometime.[/QUOTE]I wonder how many of us know anyone in our personal lives who has HIV / AIDS. I personally do not know anyone. If it was so easy to catch surely I would know someone be it friends, family, coworkers, acquaintances etc. Now in my opinion surely the most risky behavior would be IV drug use when needles are shared, next on the list would be Gay males. I think heterosexual intercourse is likely at the low end of probability to acquire the disease. Of course the Liberal Elite of this country do not like to see the Gays disparaged or offended so they would never focus on men sticking it up each others buttholes as one of the more risky behaviors when it comes to acquiring the disease. With Seven being an older woman and assuming she has been doing this for years at the AMP turnstile level of volume and extrapolating the numbers whereby if you have sex with someone and exchange fluids you have then been with every partner they have been with etc then the numbers are surely staggering and I don't understand how Seven is still alive or at least not hospitalized. I am not against someone taking precautions before sex however I do feel that the risks are exaggerated and over hyped. We would all be dropping like flies and such us not the case. As Yellowfever said you may be surprised at how many of these girls engage in natural sex.
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BB stuff
BB has been offered to me as well in pvd. It seems more like an added attraction to keep safe, easy customers coming back. In NY, its offered to steady customers especially during a downturn in biz. BBBJ is pretty common and almost expected by regs, BBFS is a bit more tricky.
While I agree with both prior posters, its dangerous (with anyone, hey, ya never know) but I also think you're more likely to pick up something with a casual bar hookup than in an AMP, which are usually very hygienic. But BB anything carries risks that most of us can't afford, I know I can't.
One thing I've always been surprised by is the lack of guys reporting they got an std / infection while mongering. The other thing to be aware of (and even higher end escorts are nervous about it) is that some well to do exec who travels, unknowingly brings something back from his travels and its weeks before anyone notices what happened. Women know if a guy pushes for BBFS with her, he also tries and probably get it elsewhere, so that big globe trotting exec may have had a wild, fun night in Brazil, last week and won't have regrets until something happens. But for everyone else who is at third party risk because of him, its pretty devastating.
Don't mean to add to the flames, just pointing out a topic NY escorts have talked to me and worry about.
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Ruby 1021
[QUOTE=MuffyTheDiver;2293905]Great review. I agree with everything you said. What makes Seven so popular is not so much her looks, nor her body or age! Her willingness to allow anything and everything you wish is the main attraction. I for one like to at least be lied to and told that I need to keep a secret as "I am the only one she is giving this type of service to". It's VERY obvious that Seven doesn't understand the exclusivity clause whatsoever. LMAO "And for that reason I'm out" (shark reference)!
I'd hate to be the 10th guy of the day when visiting her.
Muffy out![/QUOTE]How is Seven any different than Ruby the ATF of many members here formerly of 1021? Surely you didn't think she was only offering it selectively. I remember Sophia commenting "Everyone love Ruby so much cause she very pretty". LMAO although Ruby had a nice look that wasn't the reason she was so popular. Aside from the body slide she could have been Seven's twin when it came to the services she provided. And last time I talked to Sophia Ruby was still churning out probably a dozen customers a day in Manhattan.
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[QUOTE=Yellowfever023;2296062]Ok Guy's Bare Back service may not be your cup of tea and that's fine but making comments like " I guess I'll wait till I find one that I feel a little safer with " could lead others to believe that Seven is carrying an STD. Has anyone here reported catching anything from her, No they have not! You guy's have this girl as an ebola carrier and there are no symptoms.
Again I would like to remind everyone here that no one has reported catching an STD from Seven or from any other girls at a Prov FS Asian spa.
If you guy's don't want to see girls that offer BB services find another hobby because most of these girls will do it. I have been keeping track over the years and here is how it plays out 70% of the asian spa girls I have asked for BBFS have given it right up, 30% of those girls allowed CIP. This includes girls at all the Prov FS spas.[/QUOTE]I have to agree with this totally. I haven't pursued BBFS with any AMP women but.
I wouldn't hesitate if it felt right to me. My feeling is they are clean, especially the AMPs that have TS. Or at least it leads you.
To believe they are conscious of cleanliness. All of the AMP women that have performed BBBJ on me have cleaned my member.
With alcohol prior. And yes they are selective. I'm sure they don't offer it to everyone. I have had such encounters of BBBJ in RI.
And only one instance in Ma. I would have BBFS with an AMP women over someone I met in a bar or strip club. No contest.
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Cip??
[QUOTE=Yellowfever023;2296062]
If you guy's don't want to see girls that offer BB services find another hobby because most of these girls will do it. I have been keeping track over the years and here is how it plays out 70% of the asian spa girls I have asked for BBFS have given it right up, 30% of those girls allowed CIP. This includes girls at all the Prov FS spas.[/QUOTE]CIP?? Really? Wow, I didn't know that was a possibility. 7 is the first at an AMP that I've had even go BB! Never had asked, but now wish I had!
COFace happen often too?
And I wouldn't go BBFS, but I absolutely would pull out, pull off, and paint her lady part if an AMP girl let me! That sounds so hot.
And here I was thinking I would be seeing Dee or Apple / Michelle next. Got me thinking.
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[QUOTE=TasteHerpie;2296215]I have to agree with this totally. I haven't pursued BBFS with any AMP women but.
I wouldn't hesitate if it felt right to me. My feeling is they are clean, especially the AMPs that have TS. Or at least it leads you.
To believe they are conscious of cleanliness. All of the AMP women that have performed BBBJ on me have cleaned my member.
With alcohol prior. And yes they are selective. I'm sure they don't offer it to everyone. I have had such encounters of BBBJ in RI.
And only one instance in Ma. I would have BBFS with an AMP women over someone I met in a bar or strip club. No contest.[/QUOTE]I think there is some confusion about cleanliness and diseases. Granted, the AMP girls are very clean, they look and smell wonderful, nice and clean. That doesn't mean they don't have nor are carrying a disease. Most, but not all STDs are inside a girls body, no amount of washing is going to get rid of it, and if you think that if she washes your dick with alcohol you're all set, think again. It doesn't work that way. Just sayin.
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[QUOTE=Yellowfever023;2296062]Ok Guy's Bare Back service may not be your cup of tea and that's fine but making comments like " I guess I'll wait till I find one that I feel a little safer with " could lead others to believe that Seven is carrying an STD. Has anyone here reported catching anything from her, No they have not! You guy's have this girl as an ebola carrier and there are no symptoms.
Again I would like to remind everyone here that no one has reported catching an STD from Seven or from any other girls at a Prov FS Asian spa.
If you guy's don't want to see girls that offer BB services find another hobby because most of these girls will do it. I have been keeping track over the years and here is how it plays out 70% of the asian spa girls I have asked for BBFS have given it right up, 30% of those girls allowed CIP. This includes girls at all the Prov FS spas.[/QUOTE]Nobody said nor even hinted that 7 has a disease, but think about it, she offers BB to everyone, most of the AMP girls don't. So she has a much greater chance of contracting something than someone else who uses protection.
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Bbfs
Let me ask a question, do you guy's do DATY on these girls? I bet alot of you do even the guy's who want to use protection. Question 2, so you will eat a pussy that may be polluted but you won't stick your cock in that same pussy without a condom? That does not make sense at all.
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[QUOTE=SmokeScreen;2296325]Nobody said nor even hinted that 7 has a disease, but think about it, she offers BB to everyone, most of the AMP girls don't. So she has a much greater chance of contracting something than someone else who uses protection.[/QUOTE]
I have to agree with SS.
If your decision making criteria for sticking it in someone is down entirely to whether or not it has been difinitively proven she has something, you are not very bright.
You only get one dick: treat it right.
My ATF provider is partially my ATF because she is insanely scrupulous about cleanliness. She literally water and alcohol wipes down my EARLOBES if she was biting or licking my ear during our fun. Everything gets sanitized and that is how she treats her body as well. Everything from the big bombs like AIDS down to the common flu is out there and basic sanitary precautions like changing the sheets, wiping down anything that had fluids on it with alcohol and USING A FUCKING CONDOM will save everyone a big headache. Or dickache. Or divorce-ache.
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[QUOTE=Yellowfever023;2296352]Let me ask a question, do you guy's do DATY on these girls? I bet alot of you do even the guy's who want to use protection. Question 2, so you will eat a pussy that may be polluted but you won't stick your cock in that same pussy without a condom? That does not make sense at all.[/QUOTE]Actually it does make some sense. You can become HIV infected much easier by fucking it than you can by eating it, and that's not to say you're completely safe with DATY, only a little safer.
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Thank you!
[QUOTE=SmokeScreen;2296321]I think there is some confusion about cleanliness and diseases. Granted, the AMP girls are very clean, they look and smell wonderful, nice and clean. That doesn't mean they don't have nor are carrying a disease. Most, but not all STDs are inside a girls body, no amount of washing is going to get rid of it, and if you think that if she washes your dick with alcohol you're all set, think again. It doesn't work that way. Just sayin.[/QUOTE]Facts are facts, no amount of hygienic appearance, showers, wipes with "antibacterial" on them or after clean steps once the deed is done will prevent you from contracting something IF, yes IF they have something. Again until you have definite test results yes who is to say 7 or anyone has something but it's like speeding without a radar detector. We all like doing it but at some point your radar will not work or be too late and your clocked at 80,90 etc. And boom your done. You can play it safe now if you don't continue to speed or speed again. However this time you have a record that stays with you forever. We all get caught sometime. Same applies to BB service of any kind. Salvia can transfer it, blood in the mouth, tiny as it may be can transfer it, performing DATY (why would you? Will transfer it. And of course the natural lube our bodies produce during FS. I travel a lot. I've been to Japan, Guam and soon another trip to Egypt here. Been around all around the states so I'm more prone to spread something if I had something but I only dab in this hobby with clean appearance women who also only partake in covered services. That post about NY escorts is spot on as well. Look gents the rules are simple in this game. Play it safe, play it smart, don't get caught and report back. You can't follow those rules? Well it was nice knowing you.
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Can of Woop Ass
[QUOTE=EmvLa;2296461]Facts are facts, no amount of hygienic appearance, showers, wipes with "antibacterial" on them or after clean steps once the deed is done will prevent you from contracting something IF, yes IF they have something. Again until you have definite test results yes who is to say 7 or anyone has something but it's like speeding without a radar detector. We all like doing it but at some point your radar will not work or be too late and your clocked at 80,90 etc. And boom your done. You can play it safe now if you don't continue to speed or speed again. However this time you have a record that stays with you forever. We all get caught sometime. Same applies to BB service of any kind. Salvia can transfer it, blood in the mouth, tiny as it may be can transfer it, performing DATY (why would you? Will transfer it. And of course the natural lube our bodies produce during FS. I travel a lot. I've been to Japan, Guam and soon another trip to Egypt here. Been around all around the states so I'm more prone to spread something if I had something but I only dab in this hobby with clean appearance women who also only partake in covered services. That post about NY escorts is spot on as well. Look gents the rules are simple in this game. Play it safe, play it smart, don't get caught and report back. You can't follow those rules? Well it was nice knowing you.[/QUOTE]I don't have time to read or respond to everything posted at the moment. But I will respond to this post. GO FUCK YOURSELF! DON'T TELL ME HOW TO MONGER! I guarantee I have been mongering before you were shitting your diapers and according to you I should have some STD, guess what I don't and I am tested annually. I don't know what your credentials are but I promise my resume is much longer.
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[QUOTE=EmvLa;2296461]Facts are facts, no amount of hygienic appearance, showers, wipes with "antibacterial" on them or after clean steps once the deed is done will prevent you from contracting something IF, yes IF they have something. Again until you have definite test results yes who is to say 7 or anyone has something but it's like speeding without a radar detector. We all like doing it but at some point your radar will not work or be too late and your clocked at 80,90 etc. And boom your done. You can play it safe now if you don't continue to speed or speed again. However this time you have a record that stays with you forever. We all get caught sometime. Same applies to BB service of any kind. Salvia can transfer it, blood in the mouth, tiny as it may be can transfer it, performing DATY (why would you? Will transfer it. And of course the natural lube our bodies produce during FS. I travel a lot. I've been to Japan, Guam and soon another trip to Egypt here. Been around all around the states so I'm more prone to spread something if I had something but I only dab in this hobby with clean appearance women who also only partake in covered services. That post about NY escorts is spot on as well. Look gents the rules are simple in this game. Play it safe, play it smart, don't get caught and report back. You can't follow those rules? Well it was nice knowing you.[/QUOTE]So no kissing, daty, BBBJ either? How about no touching so germs aren't spread via the hands. A surgical mask when you are just flirting before the action would surely keep you safer too. Better yet why not wear a spacesuit for each encounter. You could always escalate to the Howard Hughes level of obsessiveness. Or better yet just stay home and don't see girls then your risk is lessened even further. Again if someone wants to use protection that's fine but it sounds to me like you'd be better off just using a blowup doll although I'm sure all the chemicals in that plastic aren't healthy either.