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[QUOTE=WiNiteOwl;2206787]I finally saw Autumn for a massage session. I tried reaching her via her craigslist ad, text, and cell phone numerous times. I never once heard back. Knowing that she's been reviewed a few times, I always found this lack of communication strange. After hearing about an athletic Autumn at the place we all know near Hwy 100 & Bluemound, I assumed this was the same girl. Sure enough, it's the same honey. Lean and tall, with nice curves and long, wild hair, she was skilled as well as attractive.

Autumn was very by-the-book about draping in the beginning, but eventually relaxed her rules a bit. We discussed extras and compensation and she played very coy about it. I also played dumb and asked her about expanding her services from her own place as an alternative to this office situation. She openly confessed that she's reconsidering her incall, after a client took things the wrong way and assumed they were a couple. I find it hard to believe it was any of us, knowing full well that we all share the same providers. Honest mistake, I guess, but it's created a hurdle to get extras now.

I vetted myself by taking a chance with self-serve. She acted incredulous about my behavior, asking me if the other masseuse lets me do this as well. (We all know what we do together. Why be so phony?) Overall, she was polite and lightly sensual, yet never grazed or teased me. Beyond acting oblivious to my finish, the only real negative is the lack of clean-up or towels at the end. Seriously, I felt like a well-buttered turkey and had to use the sheet to sponge off all her oil.

After I dried off, I went out to the lobby and we chatted nonchalantly for a few minutes. I gave her my info and she wrote down her cell number for me. It was the same damn number she never replies to! Is it just me, or did I just go full circle with her? I'm used to having to go through the motions when meeting a masseuse for the 1st time. I'm sure extras will be available down the road. Why she never got back to me in the first place and why two adults have to play this silly game is beyond me.

As a side note, the lead masseuse just doesn't look as good as she once did. Once a striking brunette, I found her bleached, orange blond hair to be really straw like. I used to fantasize about her and spent plenty of $$ making a play for her in the past. Now, I'm not so sure.[/QUOTE]

Agreed 100% Svetlana was every bit GFE. Just about perfect.

[QUOTE=ItaloSamoa;2219172]Good for you Bill! Nothing like playing with a really attractive woman. I TRY to seek out the really good lookers whenever I can, without paying the agency price. I know of two I want to see very soon in the area. Reports will be coming when I do.

Having said that, there's also the GFE factor that cannot be ignored. A less than smokin hot girl can make it in the top ten with a passionate attitude.

Passion is what puts a number of girls at the top of my list when coupled with good looks.

A smokin hotty that won't kiss or BBJ, can kiss my ass. Know what I mean?[/QUOTE]

The owner is back to black hair, but still just a tease. Only out for money and doesn't care about your stress.

The owner looked horrible, IMO, with that orange-blonde hair. She texted out of the blue about a week ago. I was tempted to go in, thinking that this was a subtle cue that there was more to offer this time. After shelling out 1. 80 for me in the nude w / o extras, your post reminded me to just move on and get over it.

[QUOTE=Basset69;2222218]The owner is back to black hair, but still just a tease. Only out for money and doesn't care about your stress.[/QUOTE]

I'm in conversation with a potential dream and there is a lot of questions and answers on the phone. I like to be vague so as not to give away anything in case the person on the other side is not who they say they are. But with this approach I have been shortchanged a few times because there was no agreement on what is on the table. I know this might have been discussed before, but my question is this: is there a way that one can safely negotiate a service and donation without spelling the whole thing out?

[QUOTE=Daprip;2223060]I'm in conversation with a potential dream and there is a lot of questions and answers on the phone. I like to be vague so as not to give away anything in case the person on the other side is not who they say they are. But with this approach I have been shortchanged a few times because there was no agreement on what is on the table. I know this might have been discussed before, but my question is this: is there a way that one can safely negotiate a service and donation without spelling the whole thing out?[/QUOTE]Short answer: no.

If there is some confusion, or you couldn't get the info from reviews, ask at the beginning of the appointment. There should be some comfort to discuss then. Not a perfect system.

[QUOTE=Daprip;2223060]I'm in conversation with a potential dream and there is a lot of questions and answers on the phone. I like to be vague so as not to give away anything in case the person on the other side is not who they say they are. But with this approach I have been shortchanged a few times because there was no agreement on what is on the table. I know this might have been discussed before, but my question is this: is there a way that one can safely negotiate a service and donation without spelling the whole thing out?[/QUOTE]I agree with Billsmelco. If you ask too many questions the provider may hang up on you. In my opinion those are the smart ones. They have the same concerns that you do about a person not being who they say they are. Unfortunately sometimes getting short changed is part of this hobby of ours. Besides, a provider can tell you anything you want to hear. An unscrupulous one will agree to anything to get your money. What are you going to do if she doesn't follow thru? You might have to fight her and her pimp to get your money back.

It's still exciting to see an unknown provider occasionally even though the odds are not great that it will turn out the way I would like. I do my research to try to stay away from obvious trouble, but if a provider is unknown there is no way to know what you will really get.

[QUOTE=Daprip;2223060] I know this might have been discussed before, but my question is this: is there a way that one can safely negotiate a service and donation without spelling the whole thing out?[/QUOTE]Just ask them what the prices are for the services that they will be providing. As long as you do not offer someone cash for sexual favors you should be fine. But on the flip side I'm sure the girl will be just as careful that she won't be caught soliciting also.

[QUOTE=ScooterAllCity;2223937]Just ask them what the prices are for the services that they will be providing. As long as you do not offer someone cash for sexual favors you should be fine. But on the flip side I'm sure the girl will be just as careful that she won't be caught soliciting also.[/QUOTE]Good point Scooter. In my previous response I was just addressing the part about asking about specific services. I do ask what her rates are because that's all I'm going to take in the room with me. I even ask rates if it is a provider who was discussed on the forum and rates were listed by a reviewer. Rates can change, so I like to clarify that part of the deal over the phone.

And that's just how I ask " What are your rates?

[QUOTE=Lonelyguy128;2223955]Good point Scooter. In my previous response I was just addressing the part about asking about specific services. I do ask what her rates are because that's all I'm going to take in the room with me. I even ask rates if it is a provider who was discussed on the forum and rates were listed by a reviewer. Rates can change, so I like to clarify that part of the deal over the phone.

And that's just how I ask " What are your rates?[/QUOTE]Everyone has their own style and what works for them and makes them feel comfortable. If I see a SW I stop and give her my phone number and ask her to call. I keep my doors locked and do not let her in my car. It gives me a chance to check her out ahead of time and make sure she is not a tranny or beastly looking. I have had those I had to pay to get out of the car. If she does not call, she has her reasons. By having a phone, I can connect up with her again in the event everything is good. Also, I think that if you have her phone number it may be less likely that she will rob. If she calls, I negotiate prices, etc. Makes me feel safer and that everything is agreed upon in advance. I may miss out on the hottie that gets snatched a minute after I give her my phone number, but I basically am looking at having a few safe girls rather than hunting for something new each night. Love the hunt but it is getting dangerous.

[QUOTE=Travlnmn;2223982]Everyone has their own style and what works for them and makes them feel comfortable. If I see a SW I stop and give her my phone number and ask her to call. I keep my doors locked and do not let her in my car. It gives me a chance to check her out ahead of time and make sure she is not a tranny or beastly looking. I have had those I had to pay to get out of the car. If she does not call, she has her reasons. By having a phone, I can connect up with her again in the event everything is good. Also, I think that if you have her phone number it may be less likely that she will rob. If she calls, I negotiate prices, etc. Makes me feel safer and that everything is agreed upon in advance. I may miss out on the hottie that gets snatched a minute after I give her my phone number, but I basically am looking at having a few safe girls rather than hunting for something new each night. Love the hunt but it is getting dangerous.[/QUOTE]I'm not convinced this would give you much protection and could open you up to bigger issues.

First, in my experience less than 50% of SW have a working phone. Second, do you want a SW you aren't interested in even having your number? Some of them will call multiple times a day looking for work or whatever. If it is a sting you are just setting yourself up by negotiating on the phone. Have you had this technique actually work out for you? In my opinion, the riskiest part of the SW game is the scoop. You are doubling your scoops with a first stop to exchange numbers and a second for pickup with you potentially hovering around in a high risk area waiting while you both talk on the phone. The whole scenario will appear highly suspicious if uncle LEO is cruising around. Granted, I have also had to pay to get someone out of my car but I would rather do that once in a while after making a scoop and heading to the quiet side streets to talk than to hang out exposed in the wrong area longer than necessary.

[QUOTE=Travlnmn;2223982]Everyone has their own style and what works for them and makes them feel comfortable. If I see a SW I stop and give her my phone number and ask her to call. I keep my doors locked and do not let her in my car. It gives me a chance to check her out ahead of time and make sure she is not a tranny or beastly looking. I have had those I had to pay to get out of the car. If she does not call, she has her reasons. By having a phone, I can connect up with her again in the event everything is good. Also, I think that if you have her phone number it may be less likely that she will rob. If she calls, I negotiate prices, etc. Makes me feel safer and that everything is agreed upon in advance. I may miss out on the hottie that gets snatched a minute after I give her my phone number, but I basically am looking at having a few safe girls rather than hunting for something new each night. Love the hunt but it is getting dangerous.[/QUOTE]You might want to review the 22 rules for street mongering found on the front page of this site. They are all important, but I think other than keeping your wallet and valuables out of reach the next important may be never talk to a SW until she gets into the car and you have driven away. I agree with Jack that I don't see much gain from your method and I see lots of potential downside. Like you said everybody does their own thing, but if you haven't reviewed the rules it is a good idea to go over them and for those who have read the rules it's good to review them.

[URL]http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/custompages.php?pageid=MongeringRules[/URL]

[QUOTE=JackFlack;2224045]I'm not convinced this would give you much protection and could open you up to bigger issues.

First, in my experience less than 50% of SW have a working phone. Second, do you want a SW you aren't interested in even having your number? Some of them will call multiple times a day looking for work or whatever. If it is a sting you are just setting yourself up by negotiating on the phone. Have you had this technique actually work out for you? In my opinion, the riskiest part of the SW game is the scoop. You are doubling your scoops with a first stop to exchange numbers and a second for pickup with you potentially hovering around in a high risk area waiting while you both talk on the phone. The whole scenario will appear highly suspicious if uncle LEO is cruising around. Granted, I have also had to pay to get someone out of my car but I would rather do that once in a while after making a scoop and heading to the quiet side streets to talk than to hang out exposed in the wrong area longer than necessary.[/QUOTE]I guess everyone must do what is best for them. I just don't like them in my car unless we have an agreement and I at least get a chance to see them up close. Sometimes those trannys are in your car faster than a SW picking up a 20. Then the problem lies in getting them out. There is risks in whatever we do. I just want to minimize the risks. After mongering for many years and all over the world, I just use my past experience to do what is safe for me. I could be setting myself up for a sting if doing it on the phone. I realize that. But then negotiating at curbside is a higher risk IMO. I agree with you that the riskiest time is the scoop. I want to minimize my time at the scoop. If LEO sees me talking to a SW he may pull me over. In a previous post I related an encounter where I passed my number to a SW and an SUV suddenly pulled up and blocked my path. May have been LEO, I do not know. But since she did not get in my car, there was not much he could do. It was a disturbing experience. I agree that you can go to a quiet street to negotiate but I guess it is all in our personal preference.

I really do not see much of a downside in a SW having my phone number. It is a mongering phone and I do not answer unless want to speak to them. Never have I had a SW continually call. They may call once or twice but when I don't answer, they move on. I would agree that many don't have a working phone or at least say they don't. But there are free government phones available to low income people so when they say they don't have a phone, is it because they really don't or is it just because of other reasons.

Is one way better than another? I think this is all about sharing opinions as to what is best for us based on our preferences and past personal experience. The 22 rules that Lonlyguy so kindly pointed out are nice and good guides but it still comes down to doing what is best and safe in each given situation.

Ok, so I clicked on the banner more as a goof than anything but I was wondering if any of you guys have tried Instabang? It's ne of the site sponsors so I don't think I'm going to get in too much trouble for asking. I signed up and, of course, it looks interesting but I was just wondering if anyone had any actual experience using it. Was it a waste of time or just a waste of money?

Thanks.

Roland.

My little Barbara Eden came over. She showed up, via the back door. I was already in the bedroom. She went right to work giving me head and her skills have greatly improved. She is adjusting her method to match my desired pace as style. Then I gave it to her using all of my best tricks. Problem is she is so tiny. Difficult to do doggie with a tiny woman. Thats the position I excel because of the angle of my erection seems to hit their g spot better. She's one of those wild women who likes to shake their ass a lot and get into it. I'd rather just grab some ass and do my own thing at my teasing pace of 6 shorts and one long. She got on top and I had a nice view of those shapely man mades. She came a few times and then stuck around for a few hours watching tv. This is the longest she's ever stayed. One thing I like is this doesn't cost me a dime. Still I like the hired help. Really tight for a old woman.

Will tell ya, I will take this old broad any day over all those hotties on sugardaddyforme, model mayhem, and seeking arrangements. Just like having your favorite aunt come over and babysit.