Non Pro's

[QUOTE=FantasyManJ;5706794]Her and a handful of SBs stand firm at 500 ppm. I've seen Ivy and Kay. Passed on all the bigger ones. CIP no anal for both.[/QUOTE]She works at kittens.

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[QUOTE=MyNickname;5714636]I've never seen any tna or escort attitude woman in SA. Knowing they are in tna I approach them as regular ladies and end up with a 300 or 500 half day or overnight. I never accept per hour allowances. As I said, I've had pleasure to do all holes bare and finish in which it wouldn't be available / possible if contacted them in tna.[/QUOTE]For me, I just don't have an interest in escorts posing as SBs. I'm happy that they work and make guys happy, but one of the things that turns me on about SBs and turns me off about escorts is the attitude / enthusiasm. There is simply a different vibe between the two. Escorts have fucked hundreds, if not thousands of dicks; younger SBs have had maybe a dozen, older ones a few dozen. With a few exceptions, escorts seem to have a "been there / done that" attitude and even the ones that act enthusiastic, you can tell that they really aren't into it, they just want the hour to end. With the exception of some of the younger SBs, many are like girlfriends and seem to enjoy the whole experience.

As an example, I recently saw a popular escort on the other site. Her ass was simply scrumptious and though I very rarely do it, I did a little DATO. There was zero reaction (I actually think I got a "I'm bored" sigh). That's the first time that it has ever happened to me. Generally, the women love it or they stop me from doing it because they don't like it. This one was like, he's paying me for the hour, it's my job to sit here, let him lick my asshole and say nothing. That is the difference between an escort and a SB. I want someone that will at least pretend like they are having the best time of their life.

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Any non pros that offer CIA?

[QUOTE=MyNickname;5714636]I've never seen any tna or escort attitude woman in SA. Knowing they are in tna I approach them as regular ladies and end up with a 300 or 500 half day or overnight. I never accept per hour allowances. As I said, I've had pleasure to do all holes bare and finish in which it wouldn't be available / possible if contacted them in tna.[/QUOTE]Hard to generalize.

I am sure some pros find SA refreshing and they act more like regular non pros, but I have definitely met pros on SA with pro attitudes, starting by quoting allowances by the hour and asking to come straight to the hotel.

I do not doubt with some pros you get a better deal on SA than on TNA but I usually just do not pursue pros on SA, as soon as I figure they are pros I just stop engaging.

I do not have anything against pros, I had fucked hundreds of them, when I was younger I was way busier and just wanted to fuck and leave, now I appreciate more the foreplay, etc that true SBs like

Allow me to clarify because I have re-read what I wrote and understand it came out wrong. What I meant is that when I see a tna woman in SA then I approach her as a regular woman. If she comes out with per hour and escort attitude then I stop communication and don't meet her. I only meet those that have regular woman attitude and agree to per meet (half day / overnight) allowance. That's what I meant by "I have never seen..... ".

[QUOTE=DelToro;5715630]Hard to generalize.

I am sure some pros find SA refreshing and they act more like regular non pros, but I have definitely met pros on SA with pro attitudes, starting by quoting allowances by the hour and asking to come straight to the hotel.

I do not doubt with some pros you get a better deal on SA than on TNA but I usually just do not pursue pros on SA, as soon as I figure they are pros I just stop engaging.

I do not have anything against pros, I had fucked hundreds of them, when I was younger I was way busier and just wanted to fuck and leave, now I appreciate more the foreplay, etc that true SBs like[/QUOTE]

I agree that attitude is everything. I only meet tna women in SA if they genuinly have a non escort attitude in SA. I've been lucky enough to have met various fantastic tna women via SA and I certainly got a no don't all bare experience that I wouldn't have gotten if I had approached them via tna. And as I mentioned half day / overnight for what it would have been 1 tna hour cost.

[QUOTE=Michael1967;5715509]For me, I just don't have an interest in escorts posing as SBs. I'm happy that they work and make guys happy, but one of the things that turns me on about SBs and turns me off about escorts is the attitude / enthusiasm. There is simply a different vibe between the two. Escorts have fucked hundreds, if not thousands of dicks; younger SBs have had maybe a dozen, older ones a few dozen. With a few exceptions, escorts seem to have a "been there / done that" attitude and even the ones that act enthusiastic, you can tell that they really aren't into it, they just want the hour to end. With the exception of some of the younger SBs, many are like girlfriends and seem to enjoy the whole experience.

As an example, I recently saw a popular escort on the other site. Her ass was simply scrumptious and though I very rarely do it, I did a little DATO. There was zero reaction (I actually think I got a "I'm bored" sigh). That's the first time that it has ever happened to me. Generally, the women love it or they stop me from doing it because they don't like it. This one was like, he's paying me for the hour, it's my job to sit here, let him lick my asshole and say nothing. That is the difference between an escort and a SB. I want someone that will at least pretend like they are having the best time of their life.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=BackDoordRiver;5715570]Any non pros that offer CIA?[/QUOTE]I've met a few but they are usually low key types who wouldn't appreciate a "BBFS cip cia?" text to clarify before meeting.

A lot of times if you get a girl drunk she'll be more open to that sort of stuff.

[QUOTE=BackDoordRiver;5715570]Any non pros that offer CIA?[/QUOTE]This is where I diverge from others on this site on how SA should be used. With semi-pros (if they fuck for money they are pros), you need to act like they are girlfriends or potential girlfriends. Would you ask someone you just met in a bar or a dating site if they will let you CIA? Seriously, if you want to be successful at this you need to have much more game than that and be much more patient. I'm not into the butt sex, but I've encountered a few semi-pros that actually enjoy it, but if that is your only goal then you should just find a hooker that does it and pay her.

Again, Hooker: Tell them what you want. Get a price and for what you want. Pay them and do it.

Semi-Pro / Non-Pro: Get a price (or not) for them to fuck you, be nice to them and see what they're open to.

As Mr. PND said below, I've met SB that like the ass fucking, but for the life of me I'd NEVER consider for a second asking them before meeting if they do that. Everyone that I met would immediately block me just for asking.

[QUOTE=Michael1967;5716081]This is where I diverge from others on this site on how SA should be used. With semi-pros (if they fuck for money they are pros), you need to act like they are girlfriends or potential girlfriends. Would you ask someone you just met in a bar or a dating site if they will let you CIA? Seriously, if you want to be successful at this you need to have much more game than that and be much more patient. I'm not into the butt sex, but I've encountered a few semi-pros that actually enjoy it, but if that is your only goal then you should just find a hooker that does it and pay her.

Again, Hooker: Tell them what you want. Get a price and for what you want. Pay them and do it.

Semi-Pro / Non-Pro: Get a price (or not) for them to fuck you, be nice to them and see what they're open to.

As Mr. PND said below, I've met SB that like the ass fucking, but for the life of me I'd NEVER consider for a second asking them before meeting if they do that. Everyone that I met would immediately block me just for asking.[/QUOTE]I mean, I obviously wouldn't outright ask. That's just stupid. The reason I asked on here is because it would help me narrow down my search. If I knew a semi pro already liked it, then I could spend less time with ones that didn't.

Anyone seen her?

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/de7b5569-1ca2-4583-83e4-c98ddf7b7e99[/URL]

[QUOTE=Michael1967;5716081]
I've met SB that like the ass fucking, but for the life of me I'd NEVER consider for a second asking them before meeting if they do that. Everyone that I met would immediately block me just for asking.[/QUOTE]I like ass fucking for many years I was the reference on the subject at TNA with my Greek diaries.

I agree that you can not directly and crudely ask. You need to set up the conditions where asking that is part of the flow

To start with, my SA profile mentions that I like non vanilla sex, and that I am fine if they are currently vanilla but want to experiment. Many do not reply to my messages but the ones that do are usually adventorous women.

Then during early chats I try to engage on sexting, I always start with how wet I am going to get them while going down on them, as I progress with my description I imply I would go bare, once they are all hot and bother I ask if the like anal. 10-15% would say they like it. Another 10% would say they have tried it but really did not like it that much but might be willing to try. Another 10% have not tried and might be willing to try. The rest just say no.

Obviously the YMMV factor at SA is way bigger than in TNA. Semi-pros do not "offer" anal, they might do it if they are excited enough and if they trust and like you enough

Sexting is a good way to measure. With the filthiest SB I had, she demanded condoms on first meeting and had never tried anal but by the sexting we engaged in, I knew there was potential, by the third meeting we were doing bare ATM and ATP non stop. She wanted to get serious as I could not follow up, she ended up getting a boyfriend and she introduced him to the wonders of anal sex, lucky bastard.

[QUOTE=BackDoordRiver;5716286]Anyone seen her?

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/de7b5569-1ca2-4583-83e4-c98ddf7b7e99[/URL][/QUOTE]I've chatted with her on SA, but never got to texting or talking. No red flags just found two other SBs that I've been seeing instead.

[QUOTE=Penitrator;5717003]I've chatted with her on SA, but never got to texting or talking. No red flags just found two other SBs that I've been seeing instead.[/QUOTE]Looks like a him.

[QUOTE=Michael1967;5717117]Looks like a him.[/QUOTE]Yeah, kind of thought that could be the case too with the number of transgender "women" on SA. I don't want to worry about those type of surprises coming out during an arrangement meeting, LOL.