Rants, Raves and Opinions AKA "The Octagon"

[QUOTE=WoodFordR69;5565762]
While I do think most are here to chase a better life, I do believe they need to go through the legal process / path to becoming a citizen if they want to stay.[/QUOTE]And I completely agree with this -- and from my experience, most are looking for a path to stay. The US just hasn't made any progress in doing so.

Look, I'm a little jaded by this because one of my former sugar babies is an undocumented / illegal. Her parents are undocumented, and she arrived in the US when she was 18 months. She's been in Cincinnati her whole life, and she's in law school now, even though there's a strong chance she won't be able to practice law without becoming a citizen. She pays taxes on the money she makes, she works hard in school, but, she's also understands that she's climbing a mountain, and one wrong move could have her deported to a country where she barely speaks the language and she hasn't seen in 22 years.

Until we step away from identity politics, nothing of value is going to get done in this country.

Ruth Ginsburg was voted onto the Supreme Court by a 97-3 margin. Could you imagine ANYTHING in the senate happening today with that margin? I honestly don't think I'll see it in my lifetime.

[QUOTE=MisforMaster;5566781]I'm going to preface this with I know that I will never be able to change your views on this. But, the reality is that you're so detached to reality, it's kind of amazing you can even get an erection to fuck, let alone have enough blood left in your brain to type out this word salad that I see here.

We do?

So, Kenny, you seem to know so much about undocumented immigration, can you give me a realistic number of how many undocumented / illegal aliens are coming across the border every day? Is it 10? 1000? 100,000? Let me guess, that number was zero during Trump's tenure in the White House?

The vast majority of undocumented aliens that we have in this country are visa overstays. They came and were admitted legally, but, overstayed their visa. No fucking wall would ever fix that problem.

99.9% of the immigration cases that are in immigration court right now in Ohio are either folks appealing their green card determination, or, being pushed through the removal process because they have committed a crime.

And your solution is to just let those kids become as ignorant as you are? Everyone deserves an education, even you, you beautiful appalachian ignoramus.

Look at this document: [URL]https://www.state.gov/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/Agreement-For-Bringing-Peace-to-Afghanistan-02.29.20.pdf[/URL] -- Last time I checked, it was Trump who was in office when the withdrawal was started. Maybe dates aren't your strongest suit, but, Feb of 2020 was BEFORE Biden took office, and Trump was still in office.

Kavanaugh Publicly states that they'll keep doing it so that they can get Congress to give it the authorization, which is what Kavanaugh wrote in his order. Again, education is important. Reading comprehension skills are important. Spelling is important.

I'll give you this point -- inflation is seriously out of control. You can thank the Fed Chairman for this one, not Biden.

Again, I'll give you another point. Fucking hate Kamala. She's about as useless as a used cover.

Were you that kid in class that was so special that the teacher stopped asking on you to answer questions? Because, well, that's kinda what's going on there. Ask stupid questions, or questions that have no basis in reality, and yes, POTUS is going to fucking ignore you, WH press pass or not.

I love political discourse -- I worked in DC during the Trump administration and can tell you plenty of stories about the shit that I heard and saw at Joe's Crab after work -- but, I can't stand folks who can't think for themselves.[/QUOTE]Wow. You and BengalMan must be good pals or something, because, just like him, you immediately get into all the childish name-calling and put words in my mouth. I'm not going to waste my time responding to all your crazy comments but here are a couple thoughts:

IMMIGRATION: Yes, we DO have a problem and, yes, some of them are being sent to Cincinnati. You infer that I claimed to be an "expert" on the subject and ask if I can give you a "realistic number of how many undocumented / illegal aliens are coming across the border every day". No, I can't. Can you give me one? I doubt it. This has been a problem for years and everybody knows that. But if you think the problem hasn't gotten worse since Biden took over, then you're out of your fucking mind.

EDUCATION: Because I complained about having to support the illegal immigrants, you assume that I'm against giving them an education, and then you call me a "beautiful appalachian ignoramus". (First of all, the word "Appalachian" should be capitalized, you ignoramus! Maybe YOU need some education.) My complaint was the COST of supporting all these people who are here illegally--period. If you think it's OK, good for you, but I don't. I work hard for my money and have done so since my high school years. I'm sick and tired of paying taxes for a bunch of shit that I don't believe in. If we disagree, so be it.

THE TALIBAN: Like Biden, you put all the blame on Trump-I inherited his plan" and all that crap. Biden EXECUTED the plan and he failed miserably. If he didn't like the plan he should have changed it--he certainly didn't hesitate to stop other Trump policies, did he? But, no--he "inherited" this one. He failed big-time and got 13 of our soldiers killed in the process.

Please, MisforMaster, don't respond back to this, OK? Enough is enough already. Go get your dick sucked or something so you can clear all the stupidity out of your head for 30 seconds or so.

[QUOTE=Kenal1;5567663]Wow. You and BengalMan must be good pals or something, because, just like him, you immediately get into all the childish name-calling and put words in my mouth. I'm not going to waste my time responding to all your crazy comments but here are a couple thoughts:

IMMIGRATION: Yes, we DO have a problem and, yes, some of them are being sent to Cincinnati. You infer that I claimed to be an "expert" on the subject and ask if I can give you a "realistic number of how many undocumented / illegal aliens are coming across the border every day". No, I can't. Can you give me one? I doubt it. This has been a problem for years and everybody knows that. But if you think the problem hasn't gotten worse since Biden took over, then you're out of your fucking mind.

EDUCATION: Because I complained about having to support the illegal immigrants, you assume that I'm against giving them an education, and then you call me a "beautiful appalachian ignoramus". (First of all, the word "Appalachian" should be capitalized, you ignoramus! Maybe YOU need some education.) My complaint was the COST of supporting all these people who are here illegally--period. If you think it's OK, good for you, but I don't. I work hard for my money and have done so since my high school years. I'm sick and tired of paying taxes for a bunch of shit that I don't believe in. If we disagree, so be it.

THE TALIBAN: Like Biden, you put all the blame on Trump-I inherited his plan" and all that crap. Biden EXECUTED the plan and he failed miserably. If he didn't like the plan he should have changed it--he certainly didn't hesitate to stop other Trump policies, did he? But, no--he "inherited" this one. He failed big-time and got 13 of our soldiers killed in the process.

Please, MisforMaster, don't respond back to this, OK? Enough is enough already. Go get your dick sucked or something so you can clear all the stupidity out of your head for 30 seconds or so.[/QUOTE]The immigrants currently at the border are NOT being allowed to enter to apply for asylum (as the are legally entitled to do) under a Trump administration ruling requiring them to stay on the Mexican side (where there are essentially zero resources for them to apply!) The Biden administration was continuing to enforce this order, but it was overturned by a Federal judge. Now the Biden administration is appealing it- they are trying to CONTINUE Trump's policy. I really wish you folks would actually read. Or better yet, STFU and talk about pussy and its discontents.

[QUOTE=DrDave39;5568422]The immigrants currently at the border are NOT being allowed to enter to apply for asylum (as the are legally entitled to do) under a Trump administration ruling requiring them to stay on the Mexican side (where there are essentially zero resources for them to apply!) The Biden administration was continuing to enforce this order, but it was overturned by a Federal judge. Now the Biden administration is appealing it- they are trying to CONTINUE Trump's policy. I really wish you folks would actually read. Or better yet, STFU and talk about pussy and its discontents.[/QUOTE]Some White House officials reportedly viewed the Supreme Court ruling last week upholding the Trump-era Remain in Mexico policy as a chance to slow the pace of President Biden's immigration changes that they feared were sparking the crisis at the border.

Many of them, according to the New York Times, had already been thinking about rebooting former President Donald Trump's policy in a narrow way to stem the tide of migrants.

The officials saw the justices' decision as a way to give Biden political cover to alter his predecessor's immigration policy without angering Democrats who railed against those programs during the past four years.

Ditching the Remain in Mexico program was one of several Trump's immigration programs that Biden REVERESED or rolled back in the early days of his administration — and that critics contend acted as a welcome invitation to migrants from Mexico and Central American countries.

There have been more than 1 million illegal border crossings this year, breaking records month over month.

Fucking unconscious providers under the influence of drugs / alcohol is rape, IMO. They can't consent; I don't care what they said before they passed out. This activity is an excellent way to wind up in jail [B]deservedly[/B].

One may feel safe because hookers generally feel they can't go to the police, but you're vulnerable to the same shit that would happen if you fucked a civvie woman under those circumstances.

Oh yeah: It also makes you a fucking piece of shit. I'd laugh my ass off if I saw you pop up on mugshots one day for this type of fuckery.

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[QUOTE=RogerOver;5575662]Fucking unconscious providers under the influence of drugs / alcohol is rape, IMO. They can't consent; I don't care what they said before they passed out. This activity is an excellent way to wind up in jail [B]deservedly[/B].

One may feel safe because hookers generally feel they can't go to the police, but you're vulnerable to the same shit that would happen if you fucked a civvie woman under those circumstances.

Oh yeah: It also makes you a fucking piece of shit. I'd laugh my ass off if I saw you pop up on mugshots one day for this type of fuckery.[/QUOTE]Agreed, how can anyone possibly get aroused and fuck someone who is out cold. I showed up to an appointment with a gal I had had a couple of fantastic sessions with. On this occasion she was totally under the influence of something, slurring and mumbling eyes looked sunkin and dead. Told her sorry can't do this and split. This girl was really cute, had already shown me a couple fantastic dates, but no way could I get erection under those circumstances, much less finish.

[QUOTE=ILikeWatch;5575871][URL]https://apple.news/Azu1sLsPaQHSj7PTGZjTw1Q[/URL][/QUOTE]I couldn't tell from the article, were these mostly massage parlors? Or were they escorts? Streetwalkers?

Pretty chilling to read this.

[QUOTE=ILikeWatch;5575871][URL]https://apple.news/Azu1sLsPaQHSj7PTGZjTw1Q[/URL][/QUOTE]Interesting how they describe the women selling sex as "would-be victims. " If I'm willingly selling my time to my employer am I too a victim? I mean what if someone works a taxing job and it cripples them over time? Could they be described as victims of that employer. I mean after all they're doing it because they need money too, right?

[QUOTE=GreenFields;5576038]I couldn't tell from the article, were these mostly massage parlors? Or were they escorts? Streetwalkers?

Pretty chilling to read this.[/QUOTE]But those numbers make me think parlors, mostly. I feel like that's the most bang for the buck with a sting and would also explain the sizeable number of contacts made without arrest.

[QUOTE=GreenFields;5576038]I couldn't tell from the article, were these mostly massage parlors? Or were they escorts? Streetwalkers?

Pretty chilling to read this.[/QUOTE]I think they were a mixture of everything by the sounds of it. I think there were quite a few that were set up through ads, lured to hotel rooms and busted there. Probably some AMPs as well. That's why I think it's important to stick with the providers that are reviewed here numerous times. I'm sure any one if them could flip on you and work for LEO but I think you would know about that based on reviews of a recent bust or incarceration. That's why I'm leery of anyone who just got back from a months long visit at the Graybar Hotel. Stay diligent out there.

[QUOTE=BelowMe;5577277]I think they were a mixture of everything by the sounds of it. I think there were quite a few that were set up through ads, lured to hotel rooms and busted there. Probably some AMPs as well. That's why I think it's important to stick with the providers that are reviewed here numerous times. I'm sure any one if them could flip on you and work for LEO but I think you would know about that based on reviews of a recent bust or incarceration. That's why I'm leery of anyone who just got back from a months long visit at the Graybar Hotel. Stay diligent out there.[/QUOTE]Totally agree regarding sticking with providers with multiple solid reviews. It may slow your roll a bit, but personally, I'm working my way toward finding a handful of trusted providers who I can get to know well, enjoy them as providers and as people, and ultimately feel like I can trust them.

[QUOTE=Vilnius;5577106]But those numbers make me think parlors, mostly. I feel like that's the most bang for the buck with a sting and would also explain the sizeable number of contacts made without arrest.[/QUOTE]That, plus probably johns who bailed after making contact with the ad. In previous news reports they consider everyone who responds to an ad as a "potential offender. " one news report even counted the number of views the ad got on the website which was in the thousands. It was something like 19 arrests, 212 responses, and 4400 views. If I can dig the article up ill post it. They have crossed the line way too far to be counting those.

Didn't know where to post this as I can't call it a rip off, but it certainly felt like a set up. Contacted this girl, she sent a verification pic, we set up a date. En route she started saying things that gave me a weird vibe. Mentioned several times that she lives alone, how she didn't have any friends or family around, all of this was unsolicited info and seemed to be intentionally trying to put me at ease.

Arrived to a not so nice apartment complex with exterior exits. My spidey senses were pinging, then she told me to go to the 5th floor and let her know when I was getting off the elevator and she'd give me the apartment number. At this point everything in my body was screaming to get out of there. I have been robbed before and this felt in the same vein.

I listened to my gut, told her that this felt similar to the time I was robbed, and she cut off communication. Don't know if I am way off base or if anyone has had any interactions with this girl, but just be careful.

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[QUOTE=WangOSUcc;5577939]Didn't know where to post this as I can't call it a rip off, but it certainly felt like a set up. Contacted this girl, she sent a verification pic, we set up a date. En route she started saying things that gave me a weird vibe. Mentioned several times that she lives alone, how she didn't have any friends or family around, all of this was unsolicited info and seemed to be intentionally trying to put me at ease.

Arrived to a not so nice apartment complex with exterior exits. My spidey senses were pinging, then she told me to go to the 5th floor and let her know when I was getting off the elevator and she'd give me the apartment number. At this point everything in my body was screaming to get out of there. I have been robbed before and this felt in the same vein.

I listened to my gut, told her that this felt similar to the time I was robbed, and she cut off communication. Don't know if I am way off base or if anyone has had any interactions with this girl, but just be careful.

[URL]https://escortalligator.com.listcrawler.eu/post/escorts/usa/ohio/cincinnati/68127508[/URL][/QUOTE]I don't do scavenger hunts. I get the whole address before I leave the house. If at a hotel, I may get the room number once I am in the parking lot. But getting the number when you off the elevator is nonsense.

Some of you guys play these, "go to the gas station, and wait for further instructions" games. You are not James Bond on a mission.

You have the cash she wants, which means you are in control. If she insists, tell her you are contacting someone else. Don't cheapen your manhood just to get it sucked.

[QUOTE=WangOSUcc;5577939]Didn't know where to post this as I can't call it a rip off, but it certainly felt like a set up. Contacted this girl, she sent a verification pic, we set up a date. En route she started saying things that gave me a weird vibe. Mentioned several times that she lives alone, how she didn't have any friends or family around, all of this was unsolicited info and seemed to be intentionally trying to put me at ease.

Arrived to a not so nice apartment complex with exterior exits. My spidey senses were pinging, then she told me to go to the 5th floor and let her know when I was getting off the elevator and she'd give me the apartment number. At this point everything in my body was screaming to get out of there. I have been robbed before and this felt in the same vein.

I listened to my gut, told her that this felt similar to the time I was robbed, and she cut off communication. Don't know if I am way off base or if anyone has had any interactions with this girl, but just be careful.

[URL]https://escortalligator.com.listcrawler.eu/post/escorts/usa/ohio/cincinnati/68127508[/URL][/QUOTE]The name sounds familiar, but could just be a different name they or she decided to use. I'll share a story about an escort in Covington off of pike st, a few years back that went by the same name, she requested I leave the money in the mailbox to prove I was legit. I said duh ok, I told her the money was there, I circled the block when I came back her is this fat ass man running to the mail box. Pretty fucking funny I didn't leave any money, but I honked my horn to let him know I was on to his scam lmfao.

Hey all you Socialist Democrats and Rhino's how are you liking Senile Joe & the HO now. Everything he touches turns to shit. That's what happens when you let kids run the country. The best part is that is going to get a lot worse. All I can say is to stay low and lock-and-load. Please don't look stupid and blame Trump for all his fuck-ups.

What's the best experience you've ever had with a provider? Mine may have been cookie Claire. She hadn't gotten any in a couple weeks so she was ready to go. We started off covered. She started getting into it and took off the cover without asking. LOL. Then she told me no CIP. By the time I was ready to pop she was so hot and bothered she had her legs wrapped around me and wouldn't let me loose until I finished inside of her. LOL.

[QUOTE=GMichael;5591124]What's the best experience you've ever had with a provider? Mine may have been cookie Claire. She hadn't gotten any in a couple weeks so she was ready to go. We started off covered. She started getting into it and took off the cover without asking. LOL. Then she told me no CIP. By the time I was ready to pop she was so hot and bothered she had her legs wrapped around me and wouldn't let me loose until I finished inside of her. LOL.[/QUOTE]Two of my best experiences were with Taylor Fox, and Candy Kemp. Both absolutely beautiful women, both with attitudes that was very customer centered, both skilled in the art of the pleasure, and both very intelligent so the conversation between pops were always interesting and stimulating. They were courtesans in every sense of the word.

[QUOTE=YoTooBig;5590851]Hey all you Socialist Democrats and Rhino's how are you liking Senile Joe & the HO now. Everything he touches turns to shit. That's what happens when you let kids run the country. The best part is that is going to get a lot worse. All I can say is to stay low and lock-and-load. Please don't look stupid and blame Trump for all his fuck-ups.[/QUOTE]I love being called a Socialist, because I know whoever called me that is an idiot who doesn't know what a socialist is. It's like a tell in poker. These assfuckers signal their stupidity by wearing MAGA hats, fly Trump flags, post "the election was stolen" QAnon articles, complain about the southern border because Mexicans will take away their jobs, and high gas prices are Joe Biden's fault. LOL While they mentioned "record stock prices under Trump and record low unemployment" at the beginning of Joe Biden's administration, they won't mention them now because stock prices are in record highs and unemployment is significantly down since Joe Biden took office.

Notice how ToTooBig's post was all very general? Just name calling. He doesn't get specific about what's wrong. He's basically a toddler throwing a tantrum for attention.

[QUOTE=GMichael;5591124]What's the best experience you've ever had with a provider? Mine may have been cookie Claire. She hadn't gotten any in a couple weeks so she was ready to go. We started off covered. She started getting into it and took off the cover without asking. LOL. Then she told me no CIP. By the time I was ready to pop she was so hot and bothered she had her legs wrapped around me and wouldn't let me loose until I finished inside of her. LOL.[/QUOTE]There's a name I haven't seen in forever. Can still remember seeing her all the time when she was new to things before the hard candy got ahold of her. Had alot of late hour visits she upgraded into overnights where we were at it like a couple kids one minute, then randomly trading utoob vids the next. Was the true standard of a GFE to me. Still miss that girl.

[QUOTE=WangOSUcc;5577939]Didn't know where to post this as I can't call it a rip off, but it certainly felt like a set up. Contacted this girl, she sent a verification pic, we set up a date. En route she started saying things that gave me a weird vibe. Mentioned several times that she lives alone, how she didn't have any friends or family around, all of this was unsolicited info and seemed to be intentionally trying to put me at ease.

Arrived to a not so nice apartment complex with exterior exits. My spidey senses were pinging, then she told me to go to the 5th floor and let her know when I was getting off the elevator and she'd give me the apartment number. At this point everything in my body was screaming to get out of there. I have been robbed before and this felt in the same vein.

I listened to my gut, told her that this felt similar to the time I was robbed, and she cut off communication. Don't know if I am way off base or if anyone has had any interactions with this girl, but just be careful.

[URL]https://escortalligator.com.listcrawler.eu/post/escorts/usa/ohio/cincinnati/68127508[/URL][/QUOTE]I used to see her back in 2019. And I've been seeing her recently just left her place. She's always seemed like she might have some psychosis or something but she's a nice girl. Although she had a guy watching her dog outside. Said she was her friends bf. Then I seen a guy driving her car into the apartment complex when as I was leaving. She said he was her mechanic returning her car from putting new tires on, this was at 8:30 pm. Probably her BF most likely.

[QUOTE=DNut;5591322]I love being called a Socialist, because I know whoever called me that is an idiot who doesn't know what a socialist is. It's like a tell in poker. These assfuckers signal their stupidity by wearing MAGA hats, fly Trump flags, post "the election was stolen" QAnon articles, complain about the southern border because Mexicans will take away their jobs, and high gas prices are Joe Biden's fault. LOL While they mentioned "record stock prices under Trump and record low unemployment" at the beginning of Joe Biden's administration, they won't mention them now because stock prices are in record highs and unemployment is significantly down since Joe Biden took office.

Notice how ToTooBig's post was all very general? Just name calling. He doesn't get specific about what's wrong. He's basically a toddler throwing a tantrum for attention.[/QUOTE]Both Trump and Biden support arresting men for meeting women. Trump passed the bill, Biden hasnt reversed it. Both have probably used escort services in their lives. I really don't know why anyone on this board would defend either.

[QUOTE=Micha;5592822]There's a name I haven't seen in forever. Can still remember seeing her all the time when she was new to things before the hard candy got ahold of her. Had alot of late hour visits she upgraded into overnights where we were at it like a couple kids one minute, then randomly trading utoob vids the next. Was the true standard of a GFE to me. Still miss that girl.[/QUOTE]She was great. I always enjoy it when a provider is a bit selfish and wants to get off, too. The way she'd squeeze when she'd ride.

Looking for some tips here.

I have recently met this lady at work who is very nice and jovial. We have some common interests out of work (gaming, movies etc.). We have met outside work but only within a group.

How do I know if she wants to be more than just what we have today? She keeps throwing some hints but I want to make sure its my brain doing the thinking and not my dick.

We are both in our 40's. How do I take it forward.

[QUOTE=RajReddy;5595008]Looking for some tips here.

I have recently met this lady at work who is very nice and jovial. We have some common interests out of work (gaming, movies etc.). We have met outside work but only within a group.

How do I know if she wants to be more than just what we have today? She keeps throwing some hints but I want to make sure its my brain doing the thinking and not my dick.

We are both in our 40's. How do I take it forward.[/QUOTE]Despite all the posts that will be recommending you don't pursue this, I think your next move would be to see if she wants to go grab a drink or dinner with you alone. From there to fucking is a pretty short line if she's [b]really [/b]interested in you. I say go for it. I've only regretted the girls I had a chance to fuck and didn't.

[QUOTE=RajReddy;5595008]Looking for some tips here.

I have recently met this lady at work who is very nice and jovial. We have some common interests out of work (gaming, movies etc.). We have met outside work but only within a group.

How do I know if she wants to be more than just what we have today? She keeps throwing some hints but I want to make sure its my brain doing the thinking and not my dick.

We are both in our 40's. How do I take it forward.[/QUOTE]It's very tough to ignore something like that, but my opinion is to walk away from it. Many years ago I had a relationship with a girl who worked FOR me, not WITH me, and it turned into a disaster. I didn't lose my job, but I came damn close. Keep in mind that women (in my humble opinion) are more likely to "fall in love" or some crazy shit like that and get much more emotionally tied to the relationship, which can only lead to problems. Unless you're 100% sure that she truly wants ONLY a platonic relationship (and how the hell do you know that? Don't do it. My 2 cents worth.

[QUOTE=RogerOver;5595022]Despite all the posts that will be recommending you don't pursue this, I think your next move would be to see if she wants to go grab a drink or dinner with you alone. From there to fucking is a pretty short line if she's [b]really [/b]interested in you. I say go for it. I've only regretted the girls I had a chance to fuck and didn't.[/QUOTE]You have NO Supervisory responsibilities that would affect her job.

By inviting her out to dinner or a drink after work to discuss it. Never hurts to ask especially if she's just a coworker and not a subordinate. I think if she jumps at the chance to do something outside of work alone with you it might be worth pursuing, but expectations may need to be discussed before taking it further IMHO.

[QUOTE=Kenal1;5595031]It's very tough to ignore something like that, but my opinion is to walk away from it. Many years ago I had a relationship with a girl who worked FOR me, not WITH me, and it turned into a disaster. I didn't lose my job, but I came damn close. Keep in mind that women (in my humble opinion) are more likely to "fall in love" or some crazy shit like that and get much more emotionally tied to the relationship, which can only lead to problems. Unless you're 100% sure that she truly wants ONLY a platonic relationship (and how the hell do you know that? Don't do it. My 2 cents worth.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=BTBear;5595033]You have NO Supervisory responsibilities that would affect her job.[/QUOTE]She doesn't report into me or vice-versa. We work for two different areas and but working together for some common tasks.

I am also worried about the "Falling in Love" thing. It has to be platonic.

[QUOTE=Kenal1;5595031]It's very tough to ignore something like that, but my opinion is to walk away from it. Many years ago I had a relationship with a girl who worked FOR me, not WITH me, and it turned into a disaster. I didn't lose my job, but I came damn close. Keep in mind that women (in my humble opinion) are more likely to "fall in love" or some crazy shit like that and get much more emotionally tied to the relationship, which can only lead to problems. Unless you're 100% sure that she truly wants ONLY a platonic relationship (and how the hell do you know that? Don't do it. My 2 cents worth.[/QUOTE]In large companies, there are now established HR policies should 2 people working together want to pursue a romantic relationship. It does involve notifying HR, both are advised of protocols, both are advised of what could happen if the relationship turns sour, etc. It's mainly a way of protecting the company from potential lawsuits, but it's also a way of forcing the couple to think about "what if" without the "honeymoon glow of rise colored glasses".

[QUOTE=Chunks92;5594291]Both Trump and Biden support arresting men for meeting women. Trump passed the bill, Biden hasnt reversed it. Both have probably used escort services in their lives. I really don't know why anyone on this board would defend either.[/QUOTE]Because there are more than 1 issue I care about. To base one's vote on one issue is to ignore the greater good. It's selfish and myopic.

By definition, platonic means no sex.

[QUOTE=RajReddy;5595052]She doesn't report into me or vice-versa. We work for two different areas and but working together for some common tasks.

I am also worried about the "Falling in Love" thing. It has to be platonic.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=RajReddy;5595008]Looking for some tips here.

I have recently met this lady at work who is very nice and jovial. We have some common interests out of work (gaming, movies etc.). We have met outside work but only within a group.

How do I know if she wants to be more than just what we have today? She keeps throwing some hints but I want to make sure its my brain doing the thinking and not my dick.

We are both in our 40's. How do I take it forward.[/QUOTE]Don't do it. A large number of relationships of all kinds go south and the best thing to do when this happens is to break contact. That is Impossible if you work together.

[QUOTE=VinnieKramer;5595118]By definition, platonic means no sex.[/QUOTE]What's the word for Platonic+Sex? Just curious.

[QUOTE=RajReddy;5595156]What's the word for Platonic+Sex? Just curious.[/QUOTE]We call that "fucking".

Ignore all these guys telling you not to do it. While it's a bad idea to fuck someone that works FOR you (especially in the day and age) but sounds like that's not the case here. Get some pussy!

[QUOTE=RajReddy;5595156]What's the word for Platonic+Sex? Just curious.[/QUOTE]Fuck buddies. Friends with Benefits. Knocking boots. Benefriends. Masterbuddies.

[QUOTE=Bullet454;5595148]Don't do it. A large number of relationships of all kinds go south and the best thing to do when this happens is to break contact. That is Impossible if you work together.[/QUOTE]My advice is only pursue this if you can leave the job & quickly find another if things go to shit. I worked with someone who did get involved with a lady at work. Neither had any managerial impact on the other & both were of similar ranks within their respective departments. He wanted casual, she fell in love overnight. After thinks couldn't get worked out, she goes running to HR about him 'creating a hostile work environment'. They were going fire him except I had convinced him to save the crazy texts, record conversations, etc. He was able to prove he was not the cause of the problem. 9 times out of 10, the guy is going to be presumed guilty until proven innocent.

[QUOTE=RogerOver;5595171]We call that "fucking".

Ignore all these guys telling you not to do it. While it's a bad idea to fuck someone that works FOR you (especially in the day and age) but sounds like that's not the case here. Get some pussy![/QUOTE]😊 'Fucking' is all I want no other drama.

The chance that we will ever work together is very very rare. For now will just ask out for drinks and see where this heads!!

[QUOTE=DNut;5595080]Because there are more than 1 issue I care about. To base one's vote on one issue is to ignore the greater good. It's selfish and myopic.[/QUOTE]Single issue voters are the worst thing that ever happened to the population. It's either right to life /2 A, or whatever they've hit on to make them retarded. I've actually had conversations with people that agreed that things are fucked up, but changing would mean voting for someone on the other side. No way they could get themselves to do it.

Must be sad to have your identity wrapped up in a partisan blanket.