"Sugarbabies" / "Arrangements" Amateurs or Not?

24-Dec I hate when girls put in their profile that they make good "arm candy". I'm only interested in "dick candy". Or another pet peeve is when I see the phrase "I want to be spoiled rotten". Why would anyone want that? I don't like anything that is spoiled or rotten. Role played and banged my princess tonite and then took her home. Multiple POTS to see till she gets back for new years eve. Lets see how many I can really hook up with before the 31st.

25-Dec The exotic doll faced girl ditched me. NBD, it's a numbers game for sure. Chatting up POTS on Christmas day. Made a few dates for this week.

26-Dec Had a 10 am M & G with a girl I met off the site about 2 years ago. At the time we didn't really hit it off. But there was something about her I couldn't get out of my mind. In the last 18 months I flaked on her about 6 times at least. I finally went over to see her today and I am so glad I did. She is now a 20 year old 5' 7' 110 lbs, half irish half latina, chola looking girl (tatted from her head to her ankles). I am definitely going to start seeing her and we are going to try and make a go of it. She is in beauty school and has a car and lives nearby. Says she can hang out and doesn"t care about my girls. She is an independent pro and doesn't have a BF or pimp (or anyone who thinks he's her bf) or even a best GF. Her look is way way over the top, but I like that. She is $ per visit. But today I gave her $.4 as a make up present for all my flaking. If she can perform the way I need in bed we are on. 9/9/9/9. All we did today was get reacquainted as she was on her period. We just fooled around on the sofa for a bit (with me naked) and mostly talked. She told me I was her first guy off the SD site way back when, now she is a seasoned veteran which I normally avoid, but I like her. Every girl, even a UTR or pro girl wants to feel special sometimes. I'm hoping she can feel that way about me. Fourth quarter results came in at work today. Not good. Next quarter has to be better or I don"t know what. Roommate date in the evening, I wish it had been earlier as I was emotionally drained from the earlier date and the bad news at work.

27-Dec Stayed home and txted with my new latina spinner. I got a crush on her.

28-Dec I saw that an elusive booty call girl I know posted that she wanted a certain pair of shoes on her twitter account, so I bought them. Now she has to come here to get them. I am betting she will, just like the last time a few months ago.

29-Dec Met a girl I had been chatting with for about 6 months. She was on and off the site within days. Never dated a guy over 25 and never took sugar to date a guy. Took her to dinner and then back to my place. While I could have easily just gotten down to business and then told her my situation after. I told her everything upfront as I would want to keep seeing this SB quality girl and she would find out everything anyway. She is a mixed 5' 7' 115 lb Private Dancer. An easy 9/9/9/7 (pictured below) As she does not want sugar (so she says) we just talked and fooled around on the bed. My roommate was home when we got there, and it did freak her out a little. I took her home 5 hours later. I believe there will be a second date (she was soaked right through her leggings). Cost of the date was .3 including gas. [ATTACH=CONFIG]294270[/ATTACH]

30-Dec I had been emailing a very sweet and super shy freshman for the last 2 weeks that I could just not convince to see me. Well finally today I picked her up from her home and took her to mine. She was extremely shy and almost didn't say a word. She was a 19 year old AA 5' 4' 115 lb girl with nice see cups and a round ass. Being generous she was a 9/9/9/9. She was wearing a form fitting (but not tight) dress, no bra, a sweater and glasses. So pretty and a super body, just very very quiet. When we entered the FC I started to kiss her but she didn't seem to care for that. I was then informed that she was on her period. I wasnt really upset and just figured we would go in some other direction. I tried variously petting, kissing and sweet talking, with little success. I asked her to lay down on the bed, which lasted about 15 seconds. At this point I told myself it's my job to try and understand this girl. She willingly came to the FC and there was no talk of sugar since the original contact message 2 weeks ago. At that moment she says "let me get comfortable" and proceeds to lie face down on the bed fully clothed with her legs together and crossed at the ankles. I am not really sure what to do next, so I just lay next to her and alternate between massaging her ass, cuddling her and grinding from behind. This seems to arouse her as she grinds back and starts squirming a bit, so I lift her dress and pull her panties down just enough to start fingering her ass. This elicits more squirming, so I start to finger her with 2 fingers and very aggressively. After about 5 minutes of this I tell her I am going to put something bigger in there and slide right in. We fuck for about 30 minutes until I cum deep in her ass. This entire time she only says a few sexy things that I asked her to repeat. After we are done we take a half hour break. Total silence since the start. She then sits up and I say "well I guess I just have to do things to you without asking". She says simply "yes". This re-arouses my interest and I have her start on some oral, but she soon tires. So I have her suck my balls until completion by lending a helping hand to each of our respective private parts. This pleases her. Afterwards she gave me many non verbal cues as to her feelings, like repeatedly fixing my collar and resting her head on my shoulder, all without a sound. I take her to get the gift she requests as the sight of the cold hard cash (the agreed upon $) did not sit well with her (the gift cost slightly less). After 5 hours I take her home. She claims to have never dated and only been with one guy before (a BF) and he was only 20. I will definitely repeat. From beginning to end she never removed or adjusted her glasses. When I asked if she could come by after school sometime she said "yes".

31-Dec Spent New Years Eve with my "Princess". The girl pictured above followed up to tell I was too wild and can't wrap her mind around seeing me again.

I remember this is a "not too detailed" on the action thread. Hopefully it was within acceptable guidelines. Any extra details were to drive home a bigger point (no pun intended).

Expensive Month.

3.375 K. Total 25 sessions in the FC. This includes all expenses, including food, salon trips, motel rooms, bills, etc.

Spent money on 14 girls total, went to the FC with 9 of them, fucked 7 of them (played petting games with the other 2). Of the 5 others I gave money to, there were 2 charity donations to X's and I did 3 M&G's that went nowhere.

Spent 75% of the budget on my 3 regulars.

Interested in how this one pans out for you. I have not pulled the trigger on that site due to the insane amount of mail I get from them. With no profile information filled out.

Do keep us informed if this turns out to be reliable source.

[QUOTE=Revvo;1965190]So to continue from before I am in the process of trying see if I can get one or two real people to date as an affair. AM was a bust so I gave up on that worthless site. But there was some traction. Two from Arrangement Finders and one from SDforme and one from SocialSex. All of these contacted me first all four have not ever done anything like this before and do not express any real monetary expectations and all three are on a very slow roll. So lets take a look shall we?

Italian MILF POT: So this is the most promising one. She 37 YO Italian very very sexy. She is educated, came from a wealthy family, her second husband she is divorced from was wealthy. She has two kids and she looks pretty damn good for her age. She is about 5'3" very large nice breasts, a little thick but not fat at all, she is in good shape exercises every day. I give her a 8/8/10/? . Has a good professional job. She is very responsible and always communicates well and is respectful but not a kiss ass. And shows up on time or early. Long flowing sexy dark hair and she dresses very sexy. Showing cleavage and tight little skirts. Regardless of what ever happens she is a quality woman. And I believe that makes the chances for a quality engagement good. She is very touchy, and complimentary and seems to really be into me. But when it comes to physical escalation it is different. She is much more conservative. After our first very good date. She would not kiss me on the lips and I always try to do this to establish sexual escalation in the first date. This told me she is going to have to be slowly worked into this. She is a class woman and will not be treated otherwise. There has been absolutely no indication she is into any money other than date expenses. We had our second date today and it went awesome. Really good conversation and many times I have had to work these women and try to seduce them. This is not the issue here. It is just easy and fun. So I tried to close her even knowing I was not going to get her to the FC on the 2nd date. And she blushed but refused. But she indicated she really likes me and she is ready to fuck me but needs to "get there" and that takes time with her. She even spelled out how to get there. Simply get together for another date. Spend time together doing a fun activity and get closer through this activity. Not a problem. Planning something for next week. We did get a nice kiss after the date. But she was shy does not like public displays of affection. She tells me that she has only dated two men since her divorce a couple of years ago. And she said it took them months to get in her panties. So she says I am on the fastrack. She is in this for the long haul and does not look for a marriage, and is on the same page about a close and lustful affair. Oh and she assured me that once we did get to the FC I would be very happy because she treats her man like a king. Now I must say I have many women brag about this and even tell me this but very few have really done this. They may be good fucks, they may give awesome blowjobs, or be a lot of fun. But few ever really deliver on this. I must say the last Italian baby my 21 YO paegent baby did seem to be in this vein. But she vanished on me.

CostaRican College Baby: This one is from Arrangement Finders also. At first we hit it off right away and she was really an intellectual type and we had awesome conversations together. Then she backed away because I was married. I graciously bowed out but left the door open. Keeping a little in touch knowing she is a quality woman and a few weeks in the bowl should be enough to change her mind. And it sure did. She came back friendly and ready to give it a try. She is a 21 YO Latina baby with 5'7" nice figure, big bright smile, and great with conversation. I give her a 8/8/9/? . Now she is very young and honest and sincere. And she is very into also taking things slow. She also looks at this as a dating experience. Great communicator and snapchats with me and we have good phone conversations. She is so cute and young. I know we will be into this for a few dates before I ever get a shot at the pussy. And there is a good chance that it may never happen and if it does she may not be that good of a fuck. But it is a pursuit I am willing to slow roll into it and take the chance. She is so sweet and so fun and intelligent. Money has never been discussed and she is expecting something. But I am not going to pay a lot. It appears I can meet at her place and that helps a lot. But still trying to downsize so will not spend too much. Should be able to to a M&G next week.

PuertoRican Shy Baby: This is even more of a long shot. Very quite but cute and not seemingly into the money either. She has a real job and is living with her parents until she gets an apartment. She is retail manager. And works a lot of hours. Good sign. And is trying to get away from loser friends and wants a place without roomates. So she is trying to better herself. Thats the reason she says she was on SDforme. To find someone with substance and is mature. Very shy so far. So so communicator. We are set to meet on Saturday at a park. Should be interesting. Her voice and attitude is very very cute. Wears glasses and looks pretty cute. I give her a 7/8/8/? . Once again I am not going to expect too much. She seems interested. But not in a great rush. Thats ok. I have been through some bad rejections lately. My girl next door baby has descended into Nando 1 territory and then went black. Of course after getting her allowance. And I am not interested in trying to pursue her any more. And my Venezuelan baby is moving away in about a week.

Doctor Baby: Once again this is not a SB at all. She is a young physician, and is hot really fucking hot. I give her a 10/10/7/? . Met her on SocialSex, and she invited me to a date. But so far it has just been emailing through the site back and forth. I am not holding my breath. But I will say there are a lot of women on this site looking to get fucked. I am not having so much luck with my solicitations so far. But if I get this one it will by a grand slam. She tells me she is ready to meet. Just needs the time and will call when she has some. She seems to be warming up to me so another slow roll. She is thirty YO Latina with a body to die for. We shall see. I have at least 5 women per day that look at my profile. But very few ever respond to me. This site is overtly sexual. So there must be a better approach than what I am doing. Just playing around with it and only been on for a week. But it could be a gold mine for that ever elusive hookup online without having to pay all of this money for a commodity as common as pussy.

I still have my last baby. My Colombian Student Nurse baby. And she is always there for me. Very busy so we strictly meetup to fuck. Get a couple of nutts and go back to work. She usually gets three or four nutts.

That is it for now.

Be careful out there.

Revvo.[/QUOTE]

I haven't pulled the trigger on Socialsex but I did create an account and even though I have no pictres nor written anything I am getting tons of emails. I think this site is 100% bullshit. I mean even the pictures look fake. IMHO I would stay away but that is just me.

[QUOTE=HollywoodGuy;1968893]Expensive Month.

3.375 K. Total 25 sessions in the FC. This includes all expenses, including food, salon trips, motel rooms, bills, etc.

Spent money on 14 girls total, went to the FC with 9 of them, fucked 7 of them (played petting games with the other 2). Of the 5 others I gave money to, there were 2 charity donations to X's and I did 3 M&G's that went nowhere. Spent 75% of the budget on my 3 regulars.[/QUOTE]Looked at another way, the 3 regulars averaged $843.75 per month. Not a bad take for them. Or $135 per FC visit, not a bad ratio for you. Sounds like win win all around.

Hey guys,

A "dumb" question if I might. I see according to the dictionary that " is $100, as in Ben Franklin. Ok so what is $.4 and similar notations? If that's a decimal point in there, then it should equal $40, or is it $400? Depending on how you look at it either some of use are getting a great bargain, or the SB's are getting away with the loot. Please explain.

On a Happy New Year note, I spent part of the evening with my ATF SB and rang in the new year with a smile on my face. Neither of us are young'ins, and as a geezer. Bowl-er, I can't keep up with some of our wilder members with the 20 year olds, but it's all good to me. My MILF POT flaked on me over the holidays but were still texting and hope to meet soon. It's a bit of a drive so logistics play into it also.

Wishing everyone success in 2014.

K. dawg.

[QUOTE=KrustyDawg7;1968995]Hey guys,

A "dumb" question if I might. I see according to the dictionary that " is $100, as in Ben Franklin. Ok so what is $.4 and similar notations? If that's a decimal point in there, then it should equal $40, or is it $400? Depending on how you look at it either some of use are getting a great bargain, or the SB's are getting away with the loot. Please explain.

On a Happy New Year note, I spent part of the evening with my ATF SB and rang in the new year with a smile on my face. Neither of us are young'ins, and as a geezer. Bowl-er, I can't keep up with some of our wilder members with the 20 year olds, but it's all good to me. My MILF POT flaked on me over the holidays but were still texting and hope to meet soon. It's a bit of a drive so logistics play into it also.

Wishing everyone success in 2014.

K. dawg.[/QUOTE]At least in my part of town, the $ represents $100. Your example would be $.40 = 140.
$$ = 200. $$$.5 = 350.

[QUOTE=Ltnric;1968950]I haven't pulled the trigger on Socialsex but I did create an account and even though I have no pictres nor written anything I am getting tons of emails. I think this site is 100% bullshit. I mean even the pictures look fake. IMHO I would stay away but that is just me.[/QUOTE]I would not recommend it. I bought the membership and I have gotten some legitimate emails from real people. Verified by talking with them and from one chick that I actually did a M&G from SDforme. So I know she is real. However there is a lot of bullshit and what I have heard them call catfish? Do not spend the money.

I got engaged into an email exchange with a totally fake person and will not do that again. What a waste of my time. Do not send them money. You have been warned. There are real people but too much bullshit to wade through. And I do not have the time.

I am now thinking of trying AdultFriendFinder. I have been told it is by far the best hookup site. I have a free do nothing membership and may pull the trigger on a one month membership. Anyone out there try AFF? If so please give us your reports.

I am sharing the results of my money and my very valuable time. To tell you what I am getting. I would sure like to hear from some other brave souls out there.

Remember our failures are just or more important than our successes.

Revvo.

I noticed that when I use my google voice. That it shows my local calling area to the recipient on their caller I'the.

Now this is a bit unnerving since I live in a very specific community in my large metro area. And somehow Googlevoice is now sending that out with my call. This is not the caller I'the info on my real phone. But it is when calling through google voice.

Has anyone else encountered this? You may want to check.

Also is there anyway to change what your googlevoice sends out on its caller I'the?

Thanks,

Revvo.

[QUOTE=Revvo;1969191]I would not recommend it. I bought the membership and I have gotten some legitimate emails from real people. Verified by talking with them and from one chick that I actually did a M&G from SDforme. So I know she is real. However there is a lot of bullshit and what I have heard them call catfish? Do not spend the money.

I got engaged into an email exchange with a totally fake person and will not do that again. What a waste of my time. Do not send them money. You have been warned. There are real people but too much bullshit to wade through. And I do not have the time.

I am now thinking of trying AdultFriendFinder. I have been told it is by far the best hookup site. I have a free do nothing membership and may pull the trigger on a one month membership. Anyone out there try AFF? If so please give us your reports.

I am sharing the results of my money and my very valuable time. To tell you what I am getting. I would sure like to hear from some other brave souls out there.

Remember our failures are just or more important than our successes.

Revvo.[/QUOTE]So I have just recently signed up to adult friend finder for one month and so far hasn't been very promising. I should mention that I tried adult friend finder a few years ago and that was also pretty disappointing but this current time around it's even more disappointing.

The biggest problem that I see is that there are a lot of old profiles that are on there. In other words profiles where user has not logged on in over three months. Also there doesn't seem to be a lot of good looking women, they tend to be a lot older in other words over 45 and fat. I live in Richmond so I can only speak to my area.

[QUOTE=Revvo;1969205]I noticed that when I use my google voice. That it shows my local calling area to the recipient on their caller I'the.

Now this is a bit unnerving since I live in a very specific community in my large metro area. And somehow Googlevoice is now sending that out with my call. This is not the caller I'the info on my real phone. But it is when calling through google voice.

Has anyone else encountered this? You may want to check.

Also is there anyway to change what your googlevoice sends out on its caller I'the?

Thanks,

Revvo.[/QUOTE]When you signed up for Google Voice, did you select an area code and number that is local to you? When I signed up I selected an area code far away from me. That geographical area has always shown up on Caller Identification.

[QUOTE=Revvo;1969191]I would not recommend it. I bought the membership and I have gotten some legitimate emails from real people. Verified by talking with them and from one chick that I actually did a M&G from SDforme. So I know she is real. However there is a lot of bullshit and what I have heard them call catfish? Do not spend the money.

I got engaged into an email exchange with a totally fake person and will not do that again. What a waste of my time. Do not send them money. You have been warned. There are real people but too much bullshit to wade through. And I do not have the time.

Remember our failures are just or more important than our successes.

Revvo.[/QUOTE]I saw your comment earlier that your were giving SS a try, so mostly out of boredom I got tricked into the signup. I used a throwaway debit card that will be depleted by the time they try to charge it again, so I'm not out much.

But there's a ton of obvious signs that there's no "there" there. I've only had "Friend" requests, which then go nowhere. I had a flurry of "friend" and "meet in person" requests before I even had a photo up, which are obvious teasers. There are a small collection of profiles with public nude photos, which really make no sense at all in the real world. Then there are the obvious professionally done photographs with too good to be true faces.

There are a bunch of somewhat legit. Looking profiles, except the geographic / demographic distribution is completely out of whack with the reality on the ground. They simply do not line up with the ratios you see on other sites. I think you have site operators who aren't doing their homework and stuffing the ballot boxes without knowing the area very well. There's one town in particular that I just assume are all fakes no matter how real they look.

Once you whittle away all that, there's very, very little left that are likely to be real.

So I may try one round of sending out messages, but mostly as an experiment with no expectations that anything will come of it.

Oh well, it's a diversion anyway.

[QUOTE=Revvo;1969191]I would not recommend it. I bought the membership and I have gotten some legitimate emails from real people. Verified by talking with them and from one chick that I actually did a M&G from SDforme. So I know she is real. However there is a lot of bullshit and what I have heard them call catfish? Do not spend the money.

I got engaged into an email exchange with a totally fake person and will not do that again. What a waste of my time. Do not send them money. You have been warned. There are real people but too much bullshit to wade through. And I do not have the time.

I am now thinking of trying AdultFriendFinder. I have been told it is by far the best hookup site. I have a free do nothing membership and may pull the trigger on a one month membership. Anyone out there try AFF? If so please give us your reports.

I am sharing the results of my money and my very valuable time. To tell you what I am getting. I would sure like to hear from some other brave souls out there.

Remember our failures are just or more important than our successes.

Revvo.[/QUOTE]I did AFF for years and had lots of success. I will say, it was before I was consistently banging hotties in their 20's. From what I remember, it was great. I loved chatting in the rooms and the ideas that with most you know upfront that sex is on the menu. Lots of great photos and videos. However it has been years, I say{TCS. Ellipses}give it a try.

BigTigg.

Similar experience w / SS. Fortunately, I tried the 3-day trial period and I cancelled before they charge me for a full month.

SS is full of spam.

[QUOTE=Walruscl;1969301]I saw your comment earlier that your were giving SS a try, so mostly out of boredom I got tricked into the signup. I used a throwaway debit card that will be depleted by the time they try to charge it again, so I'm not out much.

But there's a ton of obvious signs that there's no "there" there. I've only had "Friend" requests, which then go nowhere. I had a flurry of "friend" and "meet in person" requests before I even had a photo up, which are obvious teasers. There are a small collection of profiles with public nude photos, which really make no sense at all in the real world. Then there are the obvious professionally done photographs with too good to be true faces.

There are a bunch of somewhat legit. Looking profiles, except the geographic / demographic distribution is completely out of whack with the reality on the ground. They simply do not line up with the ratios you see on other sites. I think you have site operators who aren't doing their homework and stuffing the ballot boxes without knowing the area very well. There's one town in particular that I just assume are all fakes no matter how real they look.

Once you whittle away all that, there's very, very little left that are likely to be real.

So I may try one round of sending out messages, but mostly as an experiment with no expectations that anything will come of it.

Oh well, it's a diversion anyway.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Revvo;1969191]I would not recommend it. I bought the membership and I have gotten some legitimate emails from real people. Verified by talking with them and from one chick that I actually did a M&G from SDforme. So I know she is real. However there is a lot of bullshit and what I have heard them call catfish? Do not spend the money.

I got engaged into an email exchange with a totally fake person and will not do that again. What a waste of my time. Do not send them money. You have been warned. There are real people but too much bullshit to wade through. And I do not have the time.

I am now thinking of trying AdultFriendFinder. I have been told it is by far the best hookup site. I have a free do nothing membership and may pull the trigger on a one month membership. Anyone out there try AFF? If so please give us your reports.

I am sharing the results of my money and my very valuable time. To tell you what I am getting. I would sure like to hear from some other brave souls out there.

Remember our failures are just or more important than our successes.

Revvo.[/QUOTE]Been about 3 years since I tried AFF. Seemed like a lot of fake profiles mixed with some pros. Maybe different now but was not worth it to me at the time.