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[QUOTE=HunterJay;5959728]This Economy is about to crash if this BS inflation keep rising these streetwalkers and Escorts better change their attitudes and stop with the BS schemes or else they'll be left out in the cold not getting any customers due to their BS I'm already thinking about cutting some chicks off. I do not want to hear any sob stories about them struggling should've gave great service and keep phone active these chicks digging themselves in hole and not aware of it. Anyone else have an opinion about this maybe I'm wrong but it's what I'm seeing right now I barely hunt due to the gas prices chicks not answering their phone and ghosting guys is a spot on the blacklist.[/QUOTE]Spot on. I just posted in the SW thread that I stopped going to B way. With 5 a gallon gas and no decent talent it isn't worth it anymore so I actually went back to my roots and hit up a massage place in Philly and I was actually blown away literally and figuratively.
I can't stop thinking about the woman I seen. A mid 30's Chinese woman with a pretty face who was really happy to take care of me and mentioned several times hoping that I come back. Seemed grateful for the business. I was also able to take a shower and left with something to drink. Left feeling like a happy man and that I could take on the world again and haven't felt that way in a while from a provider.
Money will be spent at AMPs now! So sick of the escort market from the lack of talent, poor service, the drugs, and having to hunt in neighbourhoods that I really shouldn't be in that have only become more dangerous over the years especially the gas stations where people are getting shot or carjacked. The AMPs are safe, clean and most importantly the women were hot and looked healthy and weren't all strung out on drugs.
The market has changed and I'm just adapting. All the young new girls (18-25) go right to Only Scams and make a killing because of all the clowns that like to pay for online content. The escort market has dried up from the CL / BP days. It's either an overpriced cold American escort who has rates that start at $200/600 or it's the rock bottom drug addict who wears sweat pants and shower shoes with no makeup and maybe took a shower that day.
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The economy vs the hoes
Talking to some providers, they all tell me the same thing, mongers want p. Sy for no money. Meaning things are so expensive, they will not give p. Sy for pennies. I changed my approach to hoes a long time ago, I won't pay more than 1 $ for decent p. Sy, above average p. Sy 150 for an hour. I'm talking about escorts. With UTRs 60 and 80 full service and no time limit.
Yes being good looking with a great body is the key to the kingdom. With providers, set a date with a specific fee, if she says oh if you want that is more when you are in the room, stare at them and make a face, meaning you are walking away. Most of the time they will change their mind and accept what you agreed on in the first conversation. We have the money, we have the power to get what we want. Don't be a fool stay firm and remember your money is power.
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[QUOTE=Gentleman007;5960592]Talking to some providers, they all tell me the same thing, mongers want p. Sy for no money. Meaning things are so expensive, they will not give p. Sy for pennies. I changed my approach to hoes a long time ago, I won't pay more than 1 $ for decent p. Sy, above average p. Sy 150 for an hour. I'm talking about escorts. With UTRs 60 and 80 full service and no time limit.
Yes being good looking with a great body is the key to the kingdom. With providers, set a date with a specific fee, if she says oh if you want that is more when you are in the room, stare at them and make a face, meaning you are walking away. Most of the time they will change their mind and accept what you agreed on in the first conversation. We have the money, we have the power to get what we want. Don't be a fool stay firm and remember your money is power.[/QUOTE]This has been my flow ever since I started in 2012. To this day, I still only pay max 80 for any chick I see. And each time the service is at bare minimum decent, and often better than decent.
And all the girls look good to me. I only go over 100 for one regular, but that's because she gives me pse and GFE for 200. Still super cheap if you ask me.
I've always been perplexed by guys here talking about how they dropped 150-300 on chicks only to have bad experiences. In my opinion, most providers arent worth 100 or more. Not the tryst chicks, not the agency chicks, none of them. Too many chicks think they're worth way more just because they have a vagina, forgetting that service is highly important.
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[QUOTE=ChrisLooker;5960084]Is Chasity flat as a board? That is the only thing keeping me from seeing her.[/QUOTE]Yes she is.
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See it can be done!
[QUOTE=Gentleman007;5960592]Talking to some providers, they all tell me the same thing, mongers want p. Sy for no money. Meaning things are so expensive, they will not give p. Sy for pennies. I changed my approach to hoes a long time ago, I won't pay more than 1 $ for decent p. Sy, above average p. Sy 150 for an hour. I'm talking about escorts. With UTRs 60 and 80 full service and no time limit.
Yes being good looking with a great body is the key to the kingdom. With providers, set a date with a specific fee, if she says oh if you want that is more when you are in the room, stare at them and make a face, meaning you are walking away. Most of the time they will change their mind and accept what you agreed on in the first conversation. We have the money, we have the power to get what we want. Don't be a fool stay firm and remember your money is power.[/QUOTE]See, he is not even talking about streetwalkers. Gentleman and Sentry are doing it right. Notice the $80 full service with no time limit. You dumb mongers are probably thinking he is full of it. No he isn't. He has the proper attitude. He is getting better service than the guy out there reading this who is paying 300 for the same girl. You are getting a half hearted call spending that much. He is paying 80 bucks and that same girl you worship is enjoying being with him more than she does you. Because he is acting like a man. I bet she actually enjoys the call with him. He is getting anything he wants off her and she does it gladly. You go in with your wishy washy I am a nice guy attitude and overpaying her thinking you are doing good. These are still glorified hookers looking to scam but they are still women. Women will always prefer the guy who actually acts like a man. This is true in this hobby or in real life.
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[QUOTE=SentryMarv1;5960624]This has been my flow ever since I started in 2012. To this day, I still only pay max 80 for any chick I see. And each time the service is at bare minimum decent, and often better than decent.
And all the girls look good to me. I only go over 100 for one regular, but that's because she gives me pse and GFE for 200. Still super cheap if you ask me.
I've always been perplexed by guys here talking about how they dropped 150-300 on chicks only to have bad experiences. In my opinion, most providers arent worth 100 or more. Not the tryst chicks, not the agency chicks, none of them. Too many chicks think they're worth way more just because they have a vagina, forgetting that service is highly important.[/QUOTE]$200.00 is a great deal for PSE and GFE also the standard maximum donation, over 200.00 is a waste of money there's plenty of chicks willing to work for a decent donation and not be an expensive ***** the max I'll put out is $200 if I know the Chick will give me the works and beyond.
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$rice. . .
[QUOTE=HunterJay;5961500]$200.00 is a great deal for PSE and GFE also the standard maximum donation, over 200.00 is a waste of money there's plenty of chicks willing to work for a decent donation and not be an expensive ***** the max I'll put out is $200 if I know the Chick will give me the works and beyond.[/QUOTE]Is all relative to the risks (in several types). As well as the the hygiene, appearance and being coherent.
As far as coherent, being an outrite dope addict, and nodding off, with oh so chance of "checking out", you can get those deals they are there. They are not for me, with too much too loose.
The max I paid (numerous times and will again) was 3 for Diya (the East Indian) or the standard 160 for AMP's (and been paying this number it seems like forever, although I do remember 130.
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It's your choice!
When you pick an escort, remember they need the $ and you want the p. Sy. Need and want are different, they need the $ for rent, food and candy, you want p. Sy and if your first choice doesn't sound safe, move to the next one. You can wait for your wants, they can't hold long for their needs, so they will have to lower their expectations.
An example, a couple months ago I was looking for a chocolate experience, (I ususally go for white, Asian and Spanish) I reached out to Jess and she was responsive, withing 25 minutes I was at her door, we agreed on a donation for the amount of time over the phone. In the middle of a steamy work out, she put her mouth on my ear and asked do you want it? (BB) Yes I said she asked 35 more and I replied, 20 I don't have any more, she said OK, I tried to reach my pants and she said it's ok...later!. That's the kind of attitude you have to look for she was willing to work things out. She loves to F...K sloppy head, spit on your d, DFK, the works. At the end we did doggie, lazy dog, BBBJ, COP.
Left satisfied, a repeat is possible. Come on boys get out there, and share your battle stories.
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[QUOTE=HunterJay;5961500]$200.00 is a great deal for PSE and GFE also the standard maximum donation, over 200.00 is a waste of money there's plenty of chicks willing to work for a decent donation and not be an expensive ***** the max I'll put out is $200 if I know the Chick will give me the works and beyond.[/QUOTE]When I started 10 years ago 200 was the standard for an hr with a girl who was GFE / pse and stayed at that for awhile and then dipped when these girls started competing with each other and mongers were smarter like 6, 7 years ago. You were getting quality girls who were at 140-160/ hr. Then it went back up to 200 and then took off to what we have today. My first year or so at this I paid the 200 for the quality girls. But then I learned to deal.
For a while I would still pay the 200 for a good girl the first time if I thought I would end up wanting to repeat. But after that it was always lower. I got it because I was normal, acted like a man, was fairly good looking and let it be known I was looking for a regular. If it was a girl I knew I wouldn't want to see again before I even saw her it was 100-160 for a full hr. I haven't even paid 200 on a first visit in over 2 years. I come in lower than that and have a few girls I see for anywhere from 50-100 for a full GFE / pse call and nobody is watching the clock. There are mongers paying these girls 200/ hr every time they see them. They are not monger smart. That's not even my UTR girls who no longer post. I pay them that same 50-100 and those calls go for hrs and sometimes end up being an overnight.
I am nothing special so most anyone can do it. Most don't even try though. I get aggravated though because I still want new blood like all the time in addition to my Regs and UTRs. I have to put in more work to get these girls at a lower rate since many of you are paying 3, 4, 500+ for them. Sex thru hobbying is the low hanging fruit, little work option for me. I hate having to put more effort into it because of the average stupid monger. Since I refuse to pay 400 for that girl I would like to see on a Fri. Night because 10 of you dummies are paying her full inflated rate, her rent, her room, her groceries etc I have to wait til a Mon. Or Tues. When she has to deal because she has less people calling her. I can afford her full rate. I just refuse to overpay for glorified streetwalkers. You should refuse too.
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Jess
[QUOTE=Gentleman007;5962069]When you pick an escort, remember they need the $ and you want the p. Sy. Need and want are different, they need the $ for rent, food and candy, you want p. Sy and if your first choice doesn't sound safe, move to the next one. You can wait for your wants, they can't hold long for their needs, so they will have to lower their expectations.
An example, a couple months ago I was looking for a chocolate experience, (I ususally go for white, Asian and Spanish) I reached out to Jess and she was responsive, withing 25 minutes I was at her door, we agreed on a donation for the amount of time over the phone. In the middle of a steamy work out, she put her mouth on my ear and asked do you want it? (BB) Yes I said she asked 35 more and I replied, 20 I don't have any more, she said OK, I tried to reach my pants and she said it's ok...later!. That's the kind of attitude you have to look for she was willing to work things out. She loves to F...K sloppy head, spit on your d, DFK, the works. At the end we did doggie, lazy dog, BBBJ, COP.
Left satisfied, a repeat is possible. Come on boys get out there, and share your battle stories.
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[URL]https://south-jersey.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/exotic/take-ahspinmyiguaranteeyull-do/478791934187[/URL][/QUOTE]Which ad is Jess?
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[QUOTE=TailGunner1;5962305]When I started 10 years ago 200 was the standard for an hr with a girl who was GFE / pse and stayed at that for awhile and then dipped when these girls started competing with each other and mongers were smarter like 6, 7 years ago. You were getting quality girls who were at 140-160/ hr. Then it went back up to 200 and then took off to what we have today. My first year or so at this I paid the 200 for the quality girls. But then I learned to deal.
For a while I would still pay the 200 for a good girl the first time if I thought I would end up wanting to repeat. But after that it was always lower. I got it because I was normal, acted like a man, was fairly good looking and let it be known I was looking for a regular. If it was a girl I knew I wouldn't want to see again before I even saw her it was 100-160 for a full hr. I haven't even paid 200 on a first visit in over 2 years. I come in lower than that and have a few girls I see for anywhere from 50-100 for a full GFE / pse call and nobody is watching the clock. There are mongers paying these girls 200/ hr every time they see them. They are not monger smart. That's not even my UTR girls who no longer post. I pay them that same 50-100 and those calls go for hrs and sometimes end up being an overnight.
I am nothing special so most anyone can do it. Most don't even try though. I get aggravated though because I still want new blood like all the time in addition to my Regs and UTRs. I have to put in more work to get these girls at a lower rate since many of you are paying 3, 4, 500+ for them. Sex thru hobbying is the low hanging fruit, little work option for me. I hate having to put more effort into it because of the average stupid monger. Since I refuse to pay 400 for that girl I would like to see on a Fri. Night because 10 of you dummies are paying her full inflated rate, her rent, her room, her groceries etc I have to wait til a Mon. Or Tues. When she has to deal because she has less people calling her. I can afford her full rate. I just refuse to overpay for glorified streetwalkers. You should refuse too.[/QUOTE]I miss the 160.00 an hr days those were great times and sometimes an extra $40 would get me another hour two hours for $200.00 was great and service was heavenly now it's just trash chicks wanting money without working for it. Monday and other weekday mornings and bad weather conditions is a good time to get chicks for cheap rates hotel management want that weekly room fee money flow not coming in due to bad weather conditions and Chicks have a strong urge to get high during bad weather conditions. Anyone can reduce an $200.00 hour rate to 160,140,100 because they need the money for their candy expenses and food too if the Chick disagree just stop communicating and contact someone else. During bad weather conditions chicks will dial for funds another great opportunity to reduce the rate.
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Reds in Mt Lauerl
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Let me point out, that I saw Reds prior to "my new approach to this game. I am sure I over paid and more. Let me also state that she is a nice girl in a bad situation. I like her plenty but won't be repeating. That has more to do with feeling safe. But, she is as sweet as she can be in her position and I don't think that other mongers should feel unsafe with her. Just understand the situation. That said, she is pregnant. Didn't know that till I saw her. She says four months. I say closer to five or six.
First time I contacted her she responded quickly. She gave me a rate of $. 5 HH and $$. 50 an hour. Seemed high and at 22 YO a little young for my taste as I continue my search for a regular. But, at 115 lbs, she was in my attraction "wheel house". Made a date and time. Pulled in 10 minutes early. Texted here and asked for room number. She had already asked me for a little up front for her room. Ughhhh. Dumb ass. Anyway, she says "give me two minutes I am paying for my room now". Then dark. Its a ghost. Course I recon'd the lobby right away and she wasn't there. So I figured 50 bucks down the drain and needed another friend. (strike one) That night she sends me multiple texts about how sorry she was. She feel asleep. Slang for nodded out. She's going to make it up to me (they all are going to make it up to me. After all they really care about me) . Unlike Tailgunner, I am quite "unmanly" with her and melt like the chump that I am (was). She has room problems again, sends me over priced personalized content. She is saying my name so not stock stuff.
We make another date and I show up early again. But, now I have a room number. I park and recon. Tell her am 5 min out. A minute later her door opens and a BF or handler comes out, down the steps and sits down on the sidewalk. Ten minutes later she's ready and up I go, making sure to double lock the door. The guy doesn't look like he can handle even me so not too worried. I ask her about the guy in the Philles cap outside and she doesn't know what I am talking about (strike two). The date starts great. Very spirited and sloppy BBBJ. She tries really hard. Just about to enter heaven and ask about BB. She says, "I usually charge a hundred more for that". I tell her I don't have it, which is not true. Cause the light just went off in my brain. Just another girl with her hand in my pocket, but she really cares about me. She says, "well in that case let me get the cover". ... I carry my own magnums cause I have length and girth.... its a DNA thing. A gift from my Dad. I will never forget when he was old and dying, I have to help him to the bathroom and he sits down and says "ohh that's cold". I look down and man oh man, its way down in the water. Holy carp ! But, I digress. OK, here's where the cover strangles the hard on right off me. I have given her plenty more than the $100 and she is not giving that up to me for free. No free lunches and no free sex. (Strike Three, she's out) . I finish manually without the cover with a great tasting pussy on my face and gone in a 30 min full hour. Here's the deal. I will not repeat but she is spot on pictures. Except the pregnant thing. But, she's tiny, spirited and appears to like sex a lot. I like her more cause she was the last straw to my new leaf on my approach to what I am doing. She finished teaching me an important lesson. Well, some of the guys on this board helped too. I am a sex addict but I don't need to buy 10 bags for 50 bucks. Like I said, a year in and I am learning. Great hygiene. I like the pregnancy thing. Ahh just a fetish. Very pretty. But arms show subtle signs of her demons. I'd say she has a month left before she's gone for the baby. Got home, called the doctor, told him I have a sinus infection and took a dose of antibiotics. That fat pussy was worth the risk IMO. Tailgunner's name tells me what he wants. I should change mine to "pieman". Recommend if you can keep your fat wallet in your pocket. Don't go for the full hour. Don't trust her sob story. Duh. I did text her and tell her that should have been free and that I was out. Also told her I over paid. She assured me everyone gets the same deal. IDK, I doubt it. I am out of the FH business anyway. Sent me more texts for a couple of days "said she needed my help. Please". But, that probably was just her handler talking to me. I returned the ghosting favor.
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[QUOTE=ReadingNeeds;5962481][URL]https://south-jersey.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/exotic/call-reds/179290598173[/URL]
Let me point out, that I saw Reds prior to "my new approach to this game. I am sure I over paid and more. Let me also state that she is a nice girl in a bad situation. I like her plenty but won't be repeating. That has more to do with feeling safe. But, she is as sweet as she can be in her position and I don't think that other mongers should feel unsafe with her. Just understand the situation. That said, she is pregnant. Didn't know that till I saw her. She says four months. I say closer to five or six.
First time I contacted her she responded quickly. She gave me a rate of $. 5 HH and $$. 50 an hour. Seemed high and at 22 YO a little young for my taste as I continue my search for a regular. But, at 115 lbs, she was in my attraction "wheel house". Made a date and time. Pulled in 10 minutes early. Texted here and asked for room number. She had already asked me for a little up front for her room. Ughhhh. Dumb ass. Anyway, she says "give me two minutes I am paying for my room now". Then dark. Its a ghost. Course I recon'd the lobby right away and she wasn't there. So I figured 50 bucks down the drain and needed another friend. (strike one) That night she sends me multiple texts about how sorry she was. She feel asleep. Slang for nodded out. She's going to make it up to me (they all are going to make it up to me. After all they really care about me) . Unlike Tailgunner, I am quite "unmanly" with her and melt like the chump that I am (was). She has room problems again, sends me over priced personalized content. She is saying my name so not stock stuff.
We make another date and I show up early again. But, now I have a room number. I park and recon. Tell her am 5 min out. A minute later her door opens and a BF or handler comes out, down the steps and sits down on the sidewalk..[/QUOTE]For many years she was a Kensington SW but now she works online. She's about 32 not 22 and this would be her 3rd time she's been pregnant.
She's cool. Probably one of the only few workers with a habit that still makes an effort to keep her self well groomed. She usually has her hair and nails done and seems to always have a place to live. Last I know she does have a bf but she's a tiny girl living in bad neighborhoods so it makes sense to team up with someone.
I started looking elsewhere because she usually can be found in the worse neighborhoods.
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My way or
To answer a question from someone, when I see an escort I ususally put the donation down, and start getting busy immediately. If the provider makes a move to take the donation to put it away, I say leave it there is going nowhere.
Most of the time they leave it there, unless someone is waiting for it in the bathroom or outside. That's way I always make sure nobody is in the room, and before entering I scan the surroundings.
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[QUOTE=Gentleman007;5962941]To answer a question from someone, when I see an escort I ususally put the donation down, and start getting busy immediately. If the provider makes a move to take the donation to put it away, I say leave it there is going nowhere.
Most of the time they leave it there, unless someone is waiting for it in the bathroom or outside. That's way I always make sure nobody is in the room, and before entering I scan the surroundings.[/QUOTE]Smart. I always say I have to go to the bathroom before I put down the money. Obviously I do that to make sure nobody else is in the bathroom. A good provider will just leave the money there once you put it down and start the call. It's like you tell them, it's not going anywhere. If a girl insists you put it down and hasn't taken off any cloths yet and is pacing the room with a nervous look turn around and leave. If you feel uncomfortable or that something isn't right turn around and leave.