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Don't you just love it when they keep your phone number or email address? I hope guys remember to use a monger phone and not their reg cell phones. Track phones are great but use a pay phone to activate it.

[QUOTE=Varoom; 1429519]How did Varoom get involved in this mess? Seems as though if I remember right. Kristen, aka Indypleasures, sent me a VERY threatening email about a yr ago. The email was on the order of; 'I am going to give you 24 hrs to do X and if you don't do what I am telling you to do, Varoom is going to be in big trouble'. Like trouble with her Atty kind of trouble. Hmmmm, Now when people threaten me like that I tend to get rather pissed off over it. Her sons name was NOT sought out specifically, but was obtained in public record along with hers, as a result of discovering civil legal action against her, et al. Also, for the record, we are not talking about little *children* here. The *children mentioned* is an adult, not a child. She makes it sound like someone was coming after her 3 yr old. The dramatics of that post are hilarious.

What is bizarre and disturbing was the email that she sent me. She had my email address from serveral years earlier, as a client of hers. (keeps those for leverage maybe) She then had the audacity of emailing me and threatening me to do something, or else? That is what is bizarre. She is entitled to her own opinions, but not her own facts. She doesn't quite tell the story accurately.[/QUOTE]

Gee, I guess I am a really bad boy? I never did mention Kristen aka Indypleasures in any post. She just jumped to that conclusion and went wacko.

[QUOTE=Best Swimmer; 1428424]Well a good provider will act the same with every guy she is with.[/QUOTE]1) a good provider knows more about men than you will ever know about women.

2) a good provider provides. A good barber cuts hair. They do so regardless of what they think of you.

3) That barber doesn't give everybody the same haircut. The provider sees men for all different reasons. And the good ones are nursemaids, confidants, psychologists, sounding boards, lovers, and mothers. As needed.

4) By definition, a woman who hates and hoodwinks every client is not a "good" provider.

[QUOTE]Don't forget they are there with you for the $ Call one of your ATF and tell them that you don't have any money but would like a session. Let us know, how that works out[/QUOTE]It's interesting how often this sage advice is offered by someone who talks about how "all" providers are just in it for the money. Maybe the experiment could include you thinking of women as people, not reverse ATM machines, or distinct from women in general or the rest of humanity, and see if you don't get something more in return.

Because in my experience, the sort of hobbyist who might get treated as though his money was no good in that establishment, occasionally, or permanently, is the sort who is always generous, considerate, and treats people like people, not as a (lower) class. And no, I'm not suggesting you try this on every 19-year-old BP bunny you shack up with for 30 minutes, nor that every delusional fool who thinks it's True Love is rational. I'm suggesting that maybe you're less than aware of the whole range of experience out there.

Saw an amazing girl today. She is friends with Miss Cake, wonderful body long and lean, super cool to talk to and I think would be an awesome person just to hang out with. Keep her and Miss Cake safe as they are 2 non drama people that I would like to keep around.

Have fun out there and stay safe.

[QUOTE=Stanc1940;1429735]Gee, I guess I am a really bad boy? I never did mention Kristen aka Indypleasures in any post. She just jumped to that conclusion and went wacko.[/QUOTE]Well, once upon a time, I posted a derogatory comment on here regarding her, and I got a nasty note about how she'd have Jackson remove my post as it was supposedly baseless. Guess what, the post is still up.

I had a vision that I saw ran in to Erika from City Girls today. In the vision it seemed like she had a fantastic body and was pretty, although seemed to taste like quite the smoker. I dreamed her performance was legendary. And if you happen to be able to catch her tomorrow while she is in town I suspect you'll find its worth the money if super nasty Russians who are all about bls and things further south than bls are your thing.

Nos

I agree with the first line of your post. Cate was tough to get a first meeting with. After that, the rest of your post goes downhill. You basically write that I'm not a gentleman. I've hung out with some of the best in the tri-state area (Abby, Jenna, Myla, Jamie, touring provider Kimberly Marie and Teresa here in Indy; Blue, Phoenix, Alyssa and Molly in Ky; and Alex, Olivia24, Tai before she became Jenae and the now retired jamielee in Ohio to name a few). Not one complaint from any of those I mentioned above. In fact, I get texts and e-mails from several of them on a regular basis asking when I'm free and hoping to schedule another appointment. Don't get confused with someone like Cate and the ones I mentioned above. The difference: all of the above returned an e-mail, text or phone call and Cate didn't. And Cate also advertised more than the others combined (except for Abby and blonde Jamie). Cautious? I sent her a handful of references. It's always something I do when I send that first e-mail. I forgot to mention, Cate was older than the others and I heard she hung out with LE, probably doing a cop or two in the meantime. Oh, I did get an e-mail from Cate about 18 months after I first contacted her. At that point I was like, fuck that, especially after hearing about the LE thing.

So just because you loved Cate, don't come on here with your eight posts and call us Cate haters. I can't say I hated her because I never met her. The way she conducted her biz? OK, I may have hated that and that's why I wrote good riddance. Other than that, why don't you get your facts straight before you come on here calling us haters who don't respect women? I have less respect for people who don't return texts or phone calls, MAN or woman, in business or as friends. It's that simple. And the LE thing, I heard that from a provider she did threesomes with Cate because Cate wanted a cop to join them one day. And that other provider said "no way." Bottom line: it was Cate. Not us hobbyists. That's the reason why she didn't hook up with some of us. She had a boatload (Titanic size) of regulars and didn't take down her ads, which would've avoided all of this. Or a simple return e-mail that said,"Sweetie, I'm not taking on new clients at this time."

That would've gotten her some respect.

BFDeal.

[QUOTE=Larry Reiff; 1428261]I won't disagree that Cate was a tough provider to get that first meeting with. It took me over a year to finally meet with her because I didn't have any references she knew. But once we met, she would always return my calls, texts and emails in a very timely fashion. Not once did she ever make it hard for me to schedule after she got to know me. She was just a very cautious woman because of all the dangers in the hobby. With some of the recent arrests in Indiana, who could blame a woman for being cautious. But I'm a strong believer that some of the greatest experiences in life don't come easy.

With all that being said, Cate was without a doubt one of the greatest providers the mid west ever had in my opinion. She was a sweet, caring, and beautiful provider that poured her heart into each and every session. I can honestly say that my sessions with her were the some of the greatest experiences of my life. I've never been around anyone that displayed so much passion. She was absolutely amazing in every way and I cherish the time we spent together.

For all the haters on this site, maybe the problem was you. I never once had any problems with her, but then again I always behaved like a perfect gentleman. She always treated me better than I ever expected a provider to. Maybe if some of you guys would treat these ladies better, you would get better results. I've read posts where some of the senior members feel like just because a they make a donation that the provider should kiss their behind in every way. Most of us men have jobs and get paid for doing work. If our bosses treat us like crap, do we give 110% at work just because we get a paycheck. NO! Now if our boss treats us great, gives us little perks once and a while, compliments our work and maybe gives us a bonus occasionally, then we work harder at what we do. Its only human nature. My gut tells me that all the Cate haters on here just don't know how to be a gentleman, because every time I was with her she treated me like I was the only man alive. And for those that don't know, she did retire back in February and has moved on with her life. She knew a lot of men through this hobby and made a lot of friends. But how does someone get on with their life and still maintain that contact. I think we all know that isn't realistic.

I personally miss her a lot and strongly feel that there will never be another provider that could ever replace her. Just my two cents worth.[/QUOTE]

For someone with a handle like this sure cares a BFdeal about little ole me.

Hum, yes, it is true. I only saw complete gentleman. Those that know and appreciate it when they have it good.

Too bad I didn't know you were such an expert on running a biz, I could have used a personal assistant and advice on how to run my own life! I shud have answered those damn emails! Heehe.

Threesome with a cop? Oh my! Now that sounds sexy as hell. Just make sure I get one that wears the uniform. Ummm ummmm ummmmm!

Kisses, xxx.

Cate

[QUOTE=BFDeal; 1430377]I agree with the first line of your post. Cate was tough to get a first meeting with. After that, the rest of your post goes downhill. You basically write that I'm not a gentleman. I've hung out with some of the best in the tri-state area (Abby, Jenna, Myla, Jamie, touring provider Kimberly Marie and Teresa here in Indy; Blue, Phoenix, Alyssa and Molly in Ky; and Alex, Olivia24, Tai before she became Jenae and the now retired jamielee in Ohio to name a few). Not one complaint from any of those I mentioned above. In fact, I get texts and e-mails from several of them on a regular basis asking when I'm free and hoping to schedule another appointment. Don't get confused with someone like Cate and the ones I mentioned above. The difference: all of the above returned an e-mail, text or phone call and Cate didn't. And Cate also advertised more than the others combined (except for Abby and blonde Jamie). Cautious? I sent her a handful of references. It's always something I do when I send that first e-mail. I forgot to mention, Cate was older than the others and I heard she hung out with LE, probably doing a cop or two in the meantime. Oh, I did get an e-mail from Cate about 18 months after I first contacted her. At that point I was like, fuck that, especially after hearing about the LE thing.

So just because you loved Cate, don't come on here with your eight posts and call us Cate haters. I can't say I hated her because I never met her. The way she conducted her biz? OK, I may have hated that and that's why I wrote good riddance. Other than that, why don't you get your facts straight before you come on here calling us haters who don't respect women? I have less respect for people who don't return texts or phone calls, MAN or woman, in business or as friends. It's that simple. And the LE thing, I heard that from a provider she did threesomes with Cate because Cate wanted a cop to join them one day. And that other provider said "no way." Bottom line: it was Cate. Not us hobbyists. That's the reason why she didn't hook up with some of us. She had a boatload (Titanic size) of regulars and didn't take down her ads, which would've avoided all of this. Or a simple return e-mail that said,"Sweetie, I'm not taking on new clients at this time."

That would've gotten her some respect.

BFDeal.[/QUOTE]

I'm sorry. I must have slept through that class. Is there really that big of a difference between an escort and a prostitute? So my defense would be;"Honest judge, I simply gave this stunningly beautiful women $$$ for a half hour of her time and then of her own accord she found my ugly, old ass irresistible and fucked the hell out of me!". That makes it legal? Besides, Teresa and I are consenting adults. She contacted me and said she missed my company. If I would have taken her electric bill and paid it, would that appease your "old college roommate"? Would they (leo) have no case if I said it was all a dream? Or how about short and sweet;"Jane Doe, one hour, $$, blew my mind!" Every "john" out there is going to want more details. So I added a little spice, a little enticing excitement. Does that make me "kidult"? Really? Well, I guess I did start reading Penthouse Forum when I was a teenager. And I, for one, still like reading it. Likewise, there are some very well written individuals on this forum and I thoroughly enjoy reading of their escapades. I would rather read that than the psychotic rants of some jilted prosti, excuse me, escort, and all the back and forth he said she said crap!

I do agree with one thing you, or your leo "friends" said. If they want to bust somebody, they can. It doesn't matter how I describe it. We are ALL here for one purpose! (Even you and your "friends") Which is a topic I thought of discussing, but will refrain. I simply want to read good stories and glean a little knowledge from everyone's experiences.

I apologize to all for adding an extra two cents. I will withdraw from the debate. And if necessary, keep my "kidult" stories to myself.

Happy Hunting.

Daniel.

[QUOTE=Iamindyjo; 1428275]I'm going to put my two cent in now! This is getting f'and ridiculous. The f'and novels and the detailed reviews like this need to stop! I'm up for a good review, but keep it f'and simple guys. There is no reason, for this much detail about your encounter with this provider. It just makes these providers a huger target to get busted. Trust me, it's not good. My old college roommate works with the Leo task force, so every now and then I get the 411 on what's going on. Yes, Leo's are all on the forums, etc and there reading reviews like this. There is a difference between an escort and prostitute. This is Hobby 101 guys, with an escort you're paying for their time only, and not for sex but whatever happens between two adults is your own damn business. This review gives, Leo more ammo to target this individual because it reeks of prostitute.

You guys need to keep in mind that these providers have lives outside of this. Most of the good providers, that hardly advertise have real professional jobs, and they really don't have to do this. That means they have a lot more to lose, if they get busted compared to some provider that does this for a living. The majority of you have a lot to lose as well, because I would say 80-90% of you guys on this forum are so called happily married / w kids. *

That being said we need to protect the good providers as much as we can, so we can still benefit from this fun hobby of ours. I was going to write more, and give examples, and what not but I decided not to. I just get frustrated when I see reviews like this. We are adults, no reason to get all geeky / girly after your encounter and get on the forums an author a best seller (No reason to be a Kidult). I take the words of my old roommate 'If we want to bust them someone we can with no problem, it's easy. We have the technology and personal to do so if we really wanted to get someone. We have a lot more of them working with use and for use then you think (providers). No one wants to go to jail over BS, they're just a phone call away. One word 'cooperation' It's not word for word, but you get the gist. After I heard him say that I was like 'wow, very interesting'.

At the end of the day you can do whatever you want to do, but I would advise to keep the reviews simple so we can all benefit from this fun hobby, in the long run. That's my 2 cents. Stay safe! Everyone.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=B Beall; 1429963]1) a good provider knows more about men than you will ever know about women.

By definition, a woman who hates and hoodwinks every client is not a "good" provider.

It's interesting how often this sage advice is offered by someone who talks about how "all" providers are just in it for the money. Maybe the experiment could include you thinking of women as people, not reverse ATM machines, or distinct from women in general or the rest of humanity, and see if you don't get something more in return.

Because in my experience, the sort of hobbyist who might get treated as though his money was no good in that establishment, occasionally, or permanently, is the sort who is always generous, considerate, and treats people like people, not as a (lower) class. And no, I'm not suggesting you try this on every 19-year-old BP bunny you shack up with for 30 minutes, nor that every delusional fool who thinks it's True Love is rational. I'm suggesting that maybe you're less than aware of the whole range of experience out there.[/QUOTE]Not here to argue with you. This will be my last on this subject.

1. A good provider will NOT tell you what they think of you. Do you really think a good provider likes everyone that they see? No but they are good and won't let you know it. That's why they are good!

They also have bad days just like us. But a good provider won't let you know, you're there to enjoy your hour.

2. I never said JUST FOR THE MONEY. They like sex also but Yes, it a business and they are with you for the $ I hope in your "experience" You have seen some very Hottt providers that if you met at a bar and they weren't providers. Do you REALLY think they would FUCK you? They wouldn't!

A provider will because you pay.

3. I NEVER SAID they are lower class. If you reread my post it said that I'm good friends with several and that means off WORKING hours. That means I know them in their personal lives. And I know several providers that also work reg "good" jobs and do this on the side. To enjoy sex and for extra money. If you saw them at a store you would never know that they did this but you sure as hell would be checking them out.

You may have more experience in the Indy market but that's because I just moved up here. More experience? I doubt that.

I see in your other post, that you're putting up names of who you've seen. Want me to put up name from Tampa? It's a hell of a lot bigger market than Indy.

4. I don't see any 19 Y / O LOL I try not to go under 30Y / O but up here there's not a big supply of those. Yes, I know there are some.

Everyone has their own opinion just don't read shit that's not there. Mine it's a business. And yes I'm very nice to all of the PROVIDERS that I see and I appreciate them for seeing me. Yours? They see you because your a sweetheart.

5. Never knew saying this was a business, would start so much shit. I know a hot blond in Tampa that did massage ending with BBBJCIM but then went to GFE. A reg of hers called and was pissed that she did this. Saying I thought we had a something special.

She did this because she likes sex and wanted to make more money. A BUSINESS, she could fuck any guy she wanted any place. She's that hottttr

Finally met with Jayla. Was it all great. YES! She is an awesome provider. The screener is an idiot to which I addressed first hand and was how I was able to get the appointment. Everything was on the menu and I was left a very happy dude. I am trying to setup a meeting with Myla & then Journey. I will report back what the deal is and if they are still FOTM'S.

B

Hooked up with Teresa again over the weekend and it just seems like she's transgressed into a hot young chick. To go from 30s to teenager in like a six-week period is amazing. The next time I hang out with her I'm just driving to the police station to turn myself in. If I keep doing the math right, she will be 15. And I think in Indiana. 15 can get you 20.

BFDeal

Well at least one of us was, if I were Russian the title would have had to read; the Russian is coming, the Russian is coming again, damn the fricking Russian is coming one more time, and finally, ok now the Russian won't be coming again anytime real soon. Erika the Great vanquished me with little trouble, she is a tough one. Actually she is an absolutely delightful and fun filled little thing. When she comes back to town I at least know what bars I am going to be lounging in, seems the girl loves a good party. She is very tight and toned, and proud of it, think she was doing some iso excercises while we played, and she bemoaned not being able to work out and lift while out on the road as much as she would like, so I guess she decided to make up for it by tossing an old fat guy all around the room a few times. She is non stop action from first minute to last, no way I had a fourth bullet in the chamber in that short a time but she was teasing and I think if I could have she would have. Very sexy in an understated kind of way, I was going to add something here but maybe best I don't, but on the street you would notice but not stare, at first, I didn't, very pretty, body fat probably not over 5% and she believes that pinching an inch on her is about two centimeters too much, and of course the accent alone is worth arousal all on its own, although for the life of her she can't figure out why so many in town found it so strange when she would ask for help on the street and elsewhere. Maybe, just maybe, it wasn't her accent at all that tounge tied them. Anyway, as always, great to work with and as always dropped an absolute bomb on me, a Russian made one at that.

[QUOTE=BFDeal; 1431611]Hooked up with Teresa again over the weekend and it just seems like she's transgressed into a hot young chick. To go from 30s to teenager in like a six-week period is amazing. The next time I hang out with her I'm just driving to the police station to turn myself in. If I keep doing the math right, she will be 15. And I think in Indiana. 15 can get you 20.

BFDeal[/QUOTE]"Five short minutes of lovin done cost me twenty long years in jail" Wrong thread kind of and may have to move this, but I was talking with T this morn about getting together and a few other tasty tidbits, and I find out that this week will be the return of one of the most famous duets in recent memory. I have kind of tired of duets for the most part, AADD or some variation of some anagram I guess, but this one kinda makes me rethink the whole concept. Sure I am not man enough to do this one justice, but oh well, this would be way better in the mirror than the porno. Come to think of it, I remember her partner in a different duet dragging mirrors out and putting them under and all around so all could get complete and clear views of the action at all time. OK, got to go, need a cold shower. One teenage (though legal) looking woman and one freak of nature, now that is a partnership made in heaven, my heaven at least.

You keep writing reports like this you might bring a yearning, dusty, missing the hunt old monger out of retirement.

[QUOTE=Ilapp;1431744]Well at least one of us was, if I were Russian the title would have had to read; the Russian is coming, the Russian is coming again, damn the fricking Russian is coming one more time, and finally, ok now the Russian won't be coming again anytime real soon. Erika the Great vanquished me with little trouble, she is a tough one. Actually she is an absolutely delightful and fun filled little thing. When she comes back to town I at least know what bars I am going to be lounging in, seems the girl loves a good party. She is very tight and toned, and proud of it, think she was doing some iso excercises while we played, and she bemoaned not being able to work out and lift while out on the road as much as she would like, so I guess she decided to make up for it by tossing an old fat guy all around the room a few times. She is non stop action from first minute to last, no way I had a fourth bullet in the chamber in that short a time but she was teasing and I think if I could have she would have. Very sexy in an understated kind of way, I was going to add something here but maybe best I don't, but on the street you would notice but not stare, at first, I didn't, very pretty, body fat probably not over 5% and she believes that pinching an inch on her is about two centimeters too much, and of course the accent alone is worth arousal all on its own, although for the life of her she can't figure out why so many in town found it so strange when she would ask for help on the street and elsewhere. Maybe, just maybe, it wasn't her accent at all that tounge tied them. Anyway, as always, great to work with and as always dropped an absolute bomb on me, a Russian made one at that.[/QUOTE]