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[QUOTE=Big Money;1109685]So what started all this was that she did not want to teabag, but she seemed to have performed well enough everything else. Well I know Jay and she can be very sweet albeit a little proud at times, but that is no reason to degrade her. Maybe if you respected her and give her a chance to like you, then she might go for it next time. But by being a jerk, you made sure there won't be a next time on your part or her's.[/QUOTE]Big Money,

I appreciate your viewpoint and hear what you're saying, but I've got to go with Niteluvr on this one. For the most part, I am unfailingly polite, but it often seems that this is the leverage these cutthroat mamasans use to get more money out of me or reduce service levels. Let me provide some add'l background so I can be judged fairly.

Before I'm even out the door, these AMPs are lying to me with internet ads featuring women who've never been in an AMP, let alone in this country. Now, when I showed up at Oasis, I was very polite when talking to the mamasan about the internet ad. Also, I didn't plug the toilet maliciously, I took a dump the size of a baby's head. That's not my fault, that's Taco Bell's. When I refused to be serviced by a rail-thin woman who looked nothing like what I'the been led to believe would be my provider, I very politely asked to leave. That's when the mamasan unloaded on me about wasting her time and big shits sending her plumber bills through the roof.

Onto Elite. I get in the room, and the first thing that's said to me is, '$60. ' No greeting – just 'pay me. ' Not even an offer of a half-hour rate, which I would've preferred. On the flip, I politely described what I wanted and paid my money when Jay agreed. From that point on, this girl's attitude was difficult, to say the least. She tried to force me into a position I don't like. I had to beg to get her to accede to laying flat on the table. Then it was no, no, no. No, I'm not going to provide any more teasing. No, you can't kiss my pubic hairs. No, I'm not going to roll over you so can see my ass. Eff me. After 10 minutes of those little Asian head shakes that look like you're serving someone bad pie, I'the had enough. I (very politely) decided to spooge on her face and take my pleasure where I could. In my view, if you're a provider, you should provide. As NL says, no one has a gun to her head.

[QUOTE=Niteluvr; 1109773]I'll try to explain.

Again, I am a customer and when I negotiate a specific extra for a specific price, it's expected that the provider deliver that service. Ex: $60 nude HJ and cum on her tits. If, during that scenario she decides to give a lame HJ then suggests I finish myself or suddenly refuses to let me cum on her tits, she's wrong. It's as simple as that. At the first sign of trouble, if I know the mamasan well, I might call her into the room and tell her what's wrong. That's fair feedback. At that point I would expect mamasan to make an on-the-spot correction in the form of telling the girl to get her shit together or refund a portion of my money, whichever I prefer. On the other hand, if I believe I'm going to get the runaround and a lame excuse, then by all means I might shift gears and cum on her face. Who's the jerk? She is. She failed to perform an agreed-upon act. It's just that simple.

In reference to your point about the other monger's encounter with Jay, I would say this: I have never met Jay, but when I hear comments like she can be 'a little proud at times, ' it reminds me of providers who have a shitty attitude, don't want to do what they agreed to do and whine if they don't get everything their way. That type of one-sidedness needs to go.

Comments such as, 'Most of the ladies don't want to be there, and would quit given other options, ' are those of a biased, bleeding heart. If a provider doesn't want to be there, she knows where the door is. Nobody forced her at gunpoint to take the job; therefore, she can leave anytime she chooses.

My home remodeling example stands as I originally stated it, as does my AMP scenario of negotiating a specific act for a specific price: Everyone knows what's expected. If the home remodeler agreed to a standard, he needs to provide it. If the provider fails to do her part, she's dead wrong. There's no gray area here as you seem to imply. [/QUOTE]Actually Nite, the girls just can't get up and go if they don't like the lifestyle. You kinda make it sound like they can go to the classifieds and get an interview or do something else. The girls have no other options. The girls are stuck doing this because they were either forced in this situation, whether it was being sold like slaves, kidnapped, or whatever horrible situation that exist out there. There are some that do this because of needing money but it's a very small percentage. I know some of these girls that do it to get a green card in the USA but, again, it's a very small percentage. I have a few buddies that own parlors in Texas and they tell me the low down. All the girls are shipped from city to city every few few months and they get paid like shit. Most if not all the girls live at the AMP all jammed in a small room with sleeping bags and blankets all over the floor. They are not treated the way you think.

Now the thing is that I can understand the frustration with a girl not doing what you told her to do if SHE DID agree upon it. However, we fall into the category of telling her what to do and expecting it to happen after payment is given. Most of the time, she doesn't even know what the hell you're saying.

However, if you had any type of compassion, you would cut them some slack, leave, and know that next time you will not go to her. Her losing your business will hurt her more than you bitching at the mamasan because of her cut (money) being so low. Once she sees the funds decreasing on a weekly basis, she'll either change for the better or get shipped out.

I feel like us mongers treat these AMP girls worst than how we would treat the SC girls and even SW girls. Maybe because we can get away with it more? I wish I can yell at management about getting my money back at a Strip Club for a dancer not giving what was discussed in VIP (and also upselling and all that other bullshit they do to you when in the VIP) but I'd probably get my ass thrown out from a bouncer for doing so. Yelling at an SW for what was discussed wouldn't matter because she simply wouldn't give a flying fuck. Either way, AMP girls are a blessing and I wouldn't like to abuse it in anyway.

I don't know, that's how I look at it.

No disrespect Nite because you are the man

[QUOTE=John Wayne;1109927]Marketing 101, the customer cums first.[/QUOTE]'The customer "CUMS" first'. NICE! .

Long time lurker. Here's my report from last night.

Oasis. Decided to visit for evaluation so called ahead to confirm address (supplied off BP ad). Mamasan gave me the same (bad) address details that the GPS had problems locating. She told me something about "10st" so I headed down 10th (from the 75/85 north exit area) , the Northside Road or Ave comes up as a main intersection with 10th. One block left is Oasis. Decent parking lot.

Reception lobby as the famous "one way mirror sliding window". But she opened the main door and security gate. Now my stalling excuse is always to claim that I need cash. And politely refuse to use the on-site ATM telling them that I prefer to use the bank ATM. This stalling allows opportunity to look around, and maybe with some luck, get to be introduced to a service provider.

Well it worked! I was ushered into a room. Very new, very clean and nice. Lights had dimmer switch and door had locking device (good signs). Very soon there was a polite knock on the door and in walked the provider. Did not get her name. Was too shocked to ask! Here is an honest report of what was standing in front of me:

* an Asian "lady". Details moving from ground up are:

* high heels. Well kept feet / pedicure. Somewhat an important sign for me.

* small waist. Overall a good body.

* huge (HUGE) oversized silicone implants. Too big for rest of build. Popping out of her skimpy bra / top looking most uncomfortable.

* long hair. Seemingly a wig. Kind of had that unnatural look to it.

* weird face. Either facelifted, or something that has taken some work.

Now here's the kicker. From my travels in Bangkok and elsewhere. I was 95% sure she was a post operative MALE! Lady-boy as they call them.

There was no way I was staying. So I kicked-in with the ATM story and walked out. Be careful and if anyone else has been there and found a different (better) situation, then please share it. On a next trip to Atlanta, I will go back just for curiosity sake.

Drove across town to Aroma. Walked in to be greeted by a typical Korean lady. First impression was good. I was not sure if she was the greeter or doubling up in this role. Nice small petite all round, good english, well proportioned, natural jugs. Gave her my ATM story. On leaving she tells me her name is OD.

I had read about OD on this board, and when looking again could not find the report, suffice to say that I remember it as not too good. She looked good though.

Drove across the road to Gold. My "regular" location. Asked for my regular and she was there. I did call ahead to check. Annie is her name. Yes, the famous one! Spent my 40 min and left "elegantly disappointed" eventhough I am well known there because I always arrive with a 12-pack of soda, and most times a box of chocolates for the ladies.

Gold has changed a lot since I first starting going there. The mamasan rotation irritates me a lot. For many months / years even, the mamsan staff was wonderful. I even got to wait for providers sitting in the kitchen and was often offered food! But things have changed and here's my observation:

* ladies are not happy. Don't hear the laughing / fun atmosphere anymore. Often the good friendship between them was such that they would bring friends into the room after the event while preparing to leave.

* lady suggested to me that the mamasan situation is not good for them too.

* service was most mechanical. No more of the (slight) GFE experience as before.

Hey, maybe times are tough, so it is business as it should be done. Pay for 40min but get 'them out as soon as possible.

On exiting I did see two other providers. And both were as HOT as Annie!

I decided that this was my last visit, but who knows. Never say never!

Be careful and have fun.

Call me old-fashion, but under no circumstance should you act like a jerk to these ladies. You just don't do it. And it serves no purpose except jerk becomes your character.

[QUOTE=Gaghoes;1110252]LOL! Man, that was a damn good laugh. Every fucking sentence of it.[/QUOTE]
If it was intended to be joke, then I sure hope you didn't act like the jerk that did in the joke.

If it is a business transaction thing, well treat it as that-not like a jerk. If you think they are just low class ho's acting snotty, that still does not give you the right to act like a jerk to them. If you think you have the right to teach them a lesson, then being a jerk does not teach them anything except that you are a jerk.

Ten years from now, no one will remember what happened. But the only thing that you will remember is that you are the jerk. And I can't understand how anyone can be proud of that? Or your Momma can be proud of that?

Now I understand how Big Pun might have drew a pissed off chick at Fuji. She probably had a jerk right before him.

Maybe showing a little class is a Texas thing, even in an AMP? And maybe that is why the going rate is so high here because mamasan has to charge a premium for dealing with the jerks? If being a jerk is the norm here in Atlanta AMPs, then you are right, I don't belong here.

As for Atlasiangirth post, I will post another time on how the majority of these K-chicks end up working in the AMPs. And I stand by what I said before that most of the ladies don't want to be there, and would quit given other options. Whether you believe that or not still does not give you the right to act like a jerk to them.

[QUOTE=Captain Howdy; 1109135]Just for laughs, this afternoon I printed off a four-color copy of their internet ad and headed over to Oasis spa. I walked in and showed the mamasan the ad and pointed to the girl I wanted to see, a beautiful Asian girl who was spilling out of her bikini top.

The mamasan looked up at me and frowned. 'She no here today. '

'Maybe I should come back tomorrow, ' I said.

'She not back tomorrow. She on vacation. '

I pointed to another girl in the ad, a real stunner whose panties barely covered her ass. 'How about her? '

'She not here either. '

This was surprising news. 'Maybe she's on vacation with this girl, ' I suggested.

Apparently, none of the girls in the ad were working today. Instead, after I waited in the room about five minutes, this skinny, thoroughly unattractive 40-year-old woman dressed like a 14-year-old girl showed up. The internet ad was obviously just a big, fake tease. On my way to the exit, the mamasam ragged at me in pidgin English about wasting her time. She also complained that I had plugged up her toilet, which was true enough.

Next I headed over to Elite Spa off Roswell. This time a 35ish woman with large fake jugs came in the room. Since I was tired of driving, I agreed to the $60 room fee. Her name was (pick one of ten K-girl names: Anna, Jade, Candy, etc.) She did a decent TS. If your idea of a great massage is five minutes of painful lotion rubbing, this woman was a master masseuse. On the plus side, she did a good job teasing both balls and one nipple on the back end of the massage.

On the flip, I made the international symbol for an HJ with a Russian finish, handed over $60 and she got to work. She did an okay job. To her credit, once I got her laying on her back for the Russian, she did some fake clit rubbing and even added a little shuddering and moaning – not terribly convincing, but still. Her tits were full Cs, but so phony they couldn't be smushed together for a decent Russian, so instead I asked if she would let me teabag her. She made the international symbol for no fuckin way, so instead I pretended I was going to pop on her tits and at the last instant pulled up so I shot her in the face. That's a little dish I like to call, Cream o' some ol' guy.

I probably wouldn't repeat or recommend, but if you like large fake cans and a reasonably accommodating attitude at low, low prices, Jade may be your gal. [/QUOTE]LOL! Man, that was a damn good laugh. Every fucking sentence of it.

[QUOTE=Big Money; 1110246]Call me old-fashion, but under no circumstance should you act like a jerk to these ladies. You just don't do it. And it serves no purpose except jerk becomes your character.

If it was intended to be joke, then I sure hope you didn't act like the jerk that did in the joke.

If it is a business transaction thing, well treat it as that-not like a jerk. If you think they are just low class ho's acting snotty, that still does not give you the right to act like a jerk to them. If you think you have the right to teach them a lesson, then being a jerk does not teach them anything except that you are a jerk.

Ten years from now, no one will remember what happened. But the only thing that you will remember is that you are the jerk. And I can't understand how anyone can be proud of that? Or your Momma can be proud of that?

Now I understand how Big Pun might have drew a pissed off chick at Fuji. She probably had a jerk right before him.

Maybe showing a little class is a Texas thing, even in an AMP? And maybe that is why the going rate is so high here because mamasan has to charge a premium for dealing with the jerks? If being a jerk is the norm here in Atlanta AMPs, then you are right, I don't belong here.

As for Atlasiangirth post, I will post another time on how the majority of these K-chicks end up working in the AMPs. And I stand by what I said before that most of the ladies don't want to be there, and would quit given other options. Whether you believe that or not still does not give you the right to act like a jerk to them. [/QUOTE]I still don't think you get it. You seem to at least imply that responding in any perceived, negative way to a castiron bytch is somehow wrong and, if a guy does so, he's a jerk. WTF? Do you believe in fair play? How bad does a woman have to be before you'll get pissed? Aileen Vuornos, perhaps? You might recall she was a female serial killer who was executed several years ago.

I repeat: MOST guys I know act like fine gentlemen when visiting an AMP. The majority of the time all is well. It's the occasional whiny wench we can't stand. I don't care if her previous customer pissed her off. That's no excuse to take it out on the next guy. If you worked in a service industry, how well do you think your boss would react to you pissing off a respected client? I bet you'd be out the door. If you want to put these women on pedestals, it's up to you. And, if you have any solid information on any provder being held against her will, let me know. I would gladly assist in setting her free.

I also assume you don't speak or understand Korean, so do you really know what these girls think or say about you? A lot will use your good-naturedness to label you as a chump. The other 50% simply won't give a shit about you. A lot of mamasans and providers understand that I won't be played for a fool because they know that I know their game. If I'm a jerk, why do they want me to come back? Why do they tug on my arm and beg me to stay when I want to leave because I didn't see anyone in a lineup to my taste? Why have I received VMs and text messages from mamasans telling me they have a new girl that they know I'll probably like (big, natural rack and long hair)? Because they know I'm generally a nice guy and they want my repeat business even though I can be a "jerk" when circumstances call for it.

Lastly, if you're so convinced whiny AMP bytches deserve everyone's umost respect, no matter how badly they act, I suggest you're highly biased and you should take your convictions to the next level: MARRY one of them and then let us know how you're doing 3 months later when she wipes out your finances and leaves town.

[QUOTE=Captain Howdy; 1109953]Big Money,

I appreciate your viewpoint and hear what you're saying, but I've got to go with Niteluvr on this one. For the most part, I am unfailingly polite, but it often seems that this is the leverage these cutthroat mamasans use to get more money out of me or reduce service levels. Let me provide some add'l background so I can be judged fairly.

Before I'm even out the door, these AMPs are lying to me with internet ads featuring women who've never been in an AMP, let alone in this country. Now, when I showed up at Oasis, I was very polite when talking to the mamasan about the internet ad. Also, I didn't plug the toilet maliciously, I took a dump the size of a baby's head. That's not my fault, that's Taco Bell's. When I refused to be serviced by a rail-thin woman who looked nothing like what I'the been led to believe would be my provider, I very politely asked to leave. That's when the mamasan unloaded on me about wasting her time and big shits sending her plumber bills through the roof.

Onto Elite. I get in the room, and the first thing that's said to me is, '$60. ' No greeting – just 'pay me. ' Not even an offer of a half-hour rate, which I would've preferred. On the flip, I politely described what I wanted and paid my money when Jay agreed. From that point on, this girl's attitude was difficult, to say the least. She tried to force me into a position I don't like. I had to beg to get her to accede to laying flat on the table. Then it was no, no, no. No, I'm not going to provide any more teasing. No, you can't kiss my pubic hairs. No, I'm not going to roll over you so can see my ass. Eff me. After 10 minutes of those little Asian head shakes that look like you're serving someone bad pie, I'the had enough. I (very politely) decided to spooge on her face and take my pleasure where I could. In my view, if you're a provider, you should provide. As NL says, no one has a gun to her head. [/QUOTE]Well said! That's the scenario I envisioned based on similar sessions I've had. Some people will adamantly refuse to comprehend though. Excessive tunnel vision.

WOW! LOL LOL LOL

I see I am not by myself I went on a tour of AMP's this past summer and it seem to me that 3-5 were also EX MALES at sometime in their life, being ex Navy I seen many "benny-boys", so many gringo's haven't been to Asia or haven't seen these he-she's before so by seeing a short, slim, skinny, long hair Asian so called chick they don't have any ideal that the so-called shy chick they see in front of them with a man-made pussy was a DUDE / MALE at a point and time.

I seen so many drunken sailors walking off with benny-boys that it wasn't funny now you have these he-she's coming here getting pass off as Asian chicks some guys don't care as long as it NOW have a pussy even IF it was man-made LOL I walked out of so many rooms when they bring these he-shes in there I can just pick up a male vibe from these he-shes they can't fool me.

The same way you see all these Asians chicks with these huge fake tits these moist/gay/he-she's go to them to get that dick slice and pull apart and made a pussy for not to much money, I don't know why but there are a lot of moist gay shy young males all over Asia, maybe that's why when I get rough with these Asian girls they eat it up and love it, I said a lot of males are shy and moist BUT not all hell most of the stuff I learned from kicking and fucking people up came from Asian guys training me.

BUT, as far as Gold Spa goes I am sure they not laughing and joking as they once did hell there isn't that many tricks running in there every 5mins throwing $300-$500 at those chicks as they once were YES tricks still go in there but not like they once was not to many people laugh when they broke lol, now so many sit there at the table or sleep in the Suna room waiting and waiting for tricks to come in and after I posted how I ONLY pay them $160, I am sure many other guys have started going there demanding everything for the same price that Kid Cisco paid LOL LOL.

So, now these chicks run that place like a fast food outlet LOL that's is fine with me, you see I have a main lady in my life and I don't and won't kiss a wh#re in her mouth after she just took 40oz. Of cum from some monger just before I got there or when she left the next room or after she licked out some obese monger that just gone to Taco Bell LOL LOL.

All you pussy eaters out there doing it's is cool with me, IF! It's my lady's but eating out some Kim-cee eating hooker I just met 6mins early or some John just JACK OFF a week of cum all over her pussy hairs forget it.

So to me Gold Spa is cool and I get everything I always have got from them I don't bring gifts or rice or egg rolls to them I have met and know some of the old managers there, they know I am not a cop just a big monger that like Asian girls I TELL THEM BRING ME ONE with the most meat you have on their asses and I am just fine, I almost knock the hell out of one chick once trying to put her finger in my ass she was like sorry sorry I said I am not into any of that MOIST stuff just a good BJ, some doggie style pulling on some hair smacking some ass cheeks then I am out LOL, before anyone say I am jerk or asshoe I am not IF I was one the mamason's there would have banned me from going there a long time ago or charge me more many of the girls have told some of the others how rough I was and said do me like you did the other one last time LOL so hell I take my dick and slap it up side her face to start the session off on a good note, look these girls have so many shy, old lonely overweight guys going in their trying to make love to them licking these hookers asses out and kissing all on them like a high school sweetheart etc. etc., not me If I want a GFE I go home.

This coming year it could become worst, some of the best money makers that would come to the Gold Spa a few times a year have stop even coming to Atlanta because the top $$ that the tricks were throwing around many of those guys are now broke or out of a job now, I got to know a few girls from LA that would come to Gold's and stayed near by in a hotel / apt and leave with so much $$$$$ they didn't have to work again for another 3-4 months, those days are over now.

Have a good New Year guys and don't overpay these chicks LOL.

Kid Cisco

[QUOTE=Niteluvr; 1110286]I still don't think you get it. You seem to at least imply that responding in any perceived, negative way to a castiron bytch is somehow wrong and, if a guy does so, he's a jerk. WTF? Do you believe in fair play? How bad does a woman have to be before you'll get pissed? Aileen Vuornos, perhaps? You might recall she was a female serial killer who was executed several years ago.

I repeat: MOST guys I know act like fine gentlemen when visiting an AMP. The majority of the time all is well. It's the occasional whiny wench we can't stand. I don't care if her previous customer pissed her off. That's no excuse to take it out on the next guy. If you worked in a service industry, how well do you think your boss would react to you pissing off a respected client? I bet you'd be out the door. If you want to put these women on pedestals, it's up to you. And, if you have any solid information on any provder being held against her will, let me know. I would gladly assist in setting her free.

I also assume you don't speak or understand Korean, so do you really know what these girls think or say about you? A lot will use your good-naturedness to label you as a chump. The other 50% simply won't give a shit about you. A lot of mamasans and providers understand that I won't be played for a fool because they know that I know their game. If I'm a jerk, why do they want me to come back? Why do they tug on my arm and beg me to stay when I want to leave because I didn't see anyone in a lineup to my taste? Why have I received VMs and text messages from mamasans telling me they have a new girl that they know I'll probably like (big, natural rack and long hair)? Because they know I'm generally a nice guy and they want my repeat business even though I can be a "jerk" when circumstances call for it.

Lastly, if you're so convinced whiny AMP bytches deserve everyone's umost respect, no matter how badly they act, I suggest you're highly biased and you should take your convictions to the next level: MARRY one of them and then let us know how you're doing 3 months later when she wipes out your finances and leaves town. [/QUOTE]You poor soul.

Did your Momma never teach you to play nice with others?

Or have you always just been an misogynist?

Since you are only interested in yourself, here is some thing maybe you have not considered or I have not seen many postings here on the Atlanta board:

Have you ever thought that being nice to the ladies (and not be a jerk) might pay off in better services and lower prices in the long run?

As I have mentioned before with my examples with Houston AMP chicks, sure I started off paying them 140 / hr for everything. Some were good and some were not, but I was always nice to all the ladies. Many I would never see again, but the word got around to where even the new girls wanted to "try me", just like the word got around to which guys are the jerks. In AMPs where I was a regular, I never had any problems like those posted here because of my reputation alone. Over time, some left the AMPs to work by themselves on the side from their own apartments, in which I became an exclusive VIP client of theirs. For the same or better services from the same quality chicks as the AMP, I paid 60-100 / hr. That is why Houston is probably the best monger city in America.

If that does not exist here in Atlanta, then I am glad to be moving on at the end of my contract here.

And by you being a jerk, you are just f*ing up for those of us trying to be nice to the chicks in hopes of better services and lower prices in the long run because 1 bad apple can ruin the bunch with examples like:

1) Big Pun getting a pissed off chick and ruining his experience because of some jerk she had before him.

2) I built some répertoire with a chick which I hope to see again, but only to have a jerk run her off.

So what you see as a short term gain of smearing cum on the chick or playing the game of acting nice but messing things up, is costing more to the rest of us. And if everyone played your game, chicks would leave at a higher rate, and the going rate might even get higher as the supply gets lower than the demand. How many posts are there about how the quality of chicks have gone down?

We all need to do the opposite and treat the girls nice so that they want to work more, which would lead to a higher supply than demand resulting in lower prices and better services in the long run.

I really hope my contract in Atlanta does not get re-newed since many here can not think past the 5 seconds after they cum. And since Nite always have to have the last word, I won't respond to this anymore.

Went to Tong Tong in Duluth today, got a massage from a girl named WeiWei, looks 40's. She did the pretend like she didn't normally do HJ routine for like 10 whole minutes. The massage and HE were both uninspiring. I paid for an hour and added an extra Andrew Jackson for the ending. I might go back there whenever low on cash.

[QUOTE=Big Money; 1110790]You poor soul.

Did your Momma never teach you to play nice with others?

Or have you always just been an misogynist?

Since you are only interested in yourself, here is some thing maybe you have not considered or I have not seen many postings here on the Atlanta board:

Have you ever thought that being nice to the ladies (and not be a jerk) might pay off in better services and lower prices in the long run?

As I have mentioned before with my examples with Houston AMP chicks, sure I started off paying them 140 / hr for everything. Some were good and some were not, but I was always nice to all the ladies. Many I would never see again, but the word got around to where even the new girls wanted to "try me", just like the word got around to which guys are the jerks. In AMPs where I was a regular, I never had any problems like those posted here because of my reputation alone. Over time, some left the AMPs to work by themselves on the side from their own apartments, in which I became an exclusive VIP client of theirs. For the same or better services from the same quality chicks as the AMP, I paid 60-100 / hr. That is why Houston is probably the best monger city in America.

If that does not exist here in Atlanta, then I am glad to be moving on at the end of my contract here.

And by you being a jerk, you are just f*ing up for those of us trying to be nice to the chicks in hopes of better services and lower prices in the long run because 1 bad apple can ruin the bunch with examples like:

1) Big Pun getting a pissed off chick and ruining his experience because of some jerk she had before him.

2) I built some areépertoire with a chick which I hope to see again, but only to have a jerk run her off.

So what you see as a short term gain of smearing cum on the chick or playing the game of acting nice but messing things up, is costing more to the rest of us. And if everyone played your game, chicks would leave at a higher rate, and the going rate might even get higher as the supply gets lower than the demand. How many posts are there about how the quality of chicks have gone down?

We all need to do the opposite and treat the girls nice so that they want to work more, which would lead to a higher supply than demand resulting in lower prices and better services in the long run.

I really hope my contract in Atlanta does not get re-newed since many here can not think past the 5 seconds after they cum. And since Nite always have to have the last word, I won't respond to this anymore. [/QUOTE]You either didn't read my post or didn't comprehend it. Not sure which one.

Trust me on this, you don't want to be ever known as being "too nice" because to most girls this means you're a sucker just ripe for the picking. Unfortunately most of these girls become so jaded and hardened by the lifestyle that they don't know how to respond to nice guys. Trust me, I've experienced this. So BigMoney you're more likely to have a better experience if you find yourself a fuck buddy. They do exist but are so difficult to find. IMHO a fuck buddy friendship is the best thing going for me at this point.



[QUOTE=Big Money; 1110790]You poor soul.

Did your Momma never teach you to play nice with others?

Or have you always just been an misogynist?

Since you are only interested in yourself, here is some thing maybe you have not considered or I have not seen many postings here on the Atlanta board:

Have you ever thought that being nice to the ladies (and not be a jerk) might pay off in better services and lower prices in the long run?

As I have mentioned before with my examples with Houston AMP chicks, sure I started off paying them 140 / hr for everything. Some were good and some were not, but I was always nice to all the ladies. Many I would never see again, but the word got around to where even the new girls wanted to "try me", just like the word got around to which guys are the jerks. In AMPs where I was a regular, I never had any problems like those posted here because of my reputation alone. Over time, some left the AMPs to work by themselves on the side from their own apartments, in which I became an exclusive VIP client of theirs. For the same or better services from the same quality chicks as the AMP, I paid 60-100 / hr. That is why Houston is probably the best monger city in America.

If that does not exist here in Atlanta, then I am glad to be moving on at the end of my contract here.

And by you being a jerk, you are just f*ing up for those of us trying to be nice to the chicks in hopes of better services and lower prices in the long run because 1 bad apple can ruin the bunch with examples like:

1) Big Pun getting a pissed off chick and ruining his experience because of some jerk she had before him.

2) I built some areépertoire with a chick which I hope to see again, but only to have a jerk run her off.

So what you see as a short term gain of smearing cum on the chick or playing the game of acting nice but messing things up, is costing more to the rest of us. And if everyone played your game, chicks would leave at a higher rate, and the going rate might even get higher as the supply gets lower than the demand. How many posts are there about how the quality of chicks have gone down?

We all need to do the opposite and treat the girls nice so that they want to work more, which would lead to a higher supply than demand resulting in lower prices and better services in the long run.

I really hope my contract in Atlanta does not get re-newed since many here can not think past the 5 seconds after they cum. And since Nite always have to have the last word, I won't respond to this anymore. [/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Atlasiangirth; 1109959]Actually Nite, the girls just can't get up and go if they don't like the lifestyle. You kinda make it sound like they can go to the classifieds and get an interview or do something else. The girls have no other options. The girls are stuck doing this because they were either forced in this situation, whether it was being sold like slaves, kidnapped, or whatever horrible situation that exist out there. There are some that do this because of needing money but it's a very small percentage. I know some of these girls that do it to get a green card in the USA but, again, it's a very small percentage. I have a few buddies that own parlors in Texas and they tell me the low down. All the girls are shipped from city to city every few few months and they get paid like shit. Most if not all the girls live at the AMP all jammed in a small room with sleeping bags and blankets all over the floor. They are not treated the way you think.

Now the thing is that I can understand the frustration with a girl not doing what you told her to do if SHE DID agree upon it. However, we fall into the category of telling her what to do and expecting it to happen after payment is given. Most of the time, she doesn't even know what the hell you're saying.

However, if you had any type of compassion, you would cut them some slack, leave, and know that next time you will not go to her. Her losing your business will hurt her more than you bitching at the mamasan because of her cut (money) being so low. Once she sees the funds decreasing on a weekly basis, she'll either change for the better or get shipped out.

I feel like us mongers treat these AMP girls worst than how we would treat the SC girls and even SW girls. Maybe because we can get away with it more? I wish I can yell at management about getting my money back at a Strip Club for a dancer not giving what was discussed in VIP (and also upselling and all that other bullshit they do to you when in the VIP) but I'd probably get my ass thrown out from a bouncer for doing so. Yelling at an SW for what was discussed wouldn't matter because she simply wouldn't give a flying fuck. Either way, AMP girls are a blessing and I wouldn't like to abuse it in anyway.

I don't know, that's how I look at it.

No disrespect Nite because you are the man[/QUOTE]I'll post some background about how many of the K-chicks end up in the AMPs based on what I have learned in more than 30 years of mongering as there seem to be some ignorance about the AMP K-chicks.

About 60% of the K-chicks that work in AMPs came to the US thru military marriages. No, their original goal was not to work in AMPs, but to build a future with their husbands and migrate their relatives to the US. On average for every K-chick marrying an American GI, she would bring another 10 of her Korean relatives to the US. Simple example is Fort Hood in Killeen, Texas, where the population is about 120,000, with 30K military personnels but with 60K Korean population.

Now, most of the K-chicks that married American GIs are not the most educated of the bunch. Most were bar girls or run thrift shops near the US base, etc. And with the military marriages having a higher than the 50% national average divorce rate, most of these K-chicks end up being 30s to 40s year old old maids with little marketable skills, and having kids to take care of. With the structured military pay, child support is barely sustenance level, plus they get kicked out of the military housing. And not to mention that some have to support the other 10 relatives that they brought over. About 60% of the AMP K-chicks in San Antonio, Dallas and Houston all have this similar background. I mentioned that to some of the K-chicks here and they too had something similar, or could empathize.

Another 10% of the AMP K-chicks would be relatives that were brought over from the original 60%. They were first brought over maybe to study English and get into college, etc. But they failed to make the grades so they did not learn any marketable skills either along with their bad Engrish. But they end up somehow having the responsibility to support the family as well. So they go to work in AMPs.

Now there are another 10-15% that are second or third generation of the original 60%. These are the younger ones in their 20s that probably speak good English and have American attitude. I see a lot of these in southern California or NYC AMPs. They think that their pussies are worth more than gold. There background bears resemblance to the American crack ho's. Most were teen rebels, and many ended up pregnant early with their pimp's baby. And end up neglecting her own baby by having some relative take care of it. Most are in it just for their next high with some sending money to the relative to take care of her baby.

And finally there are another 10-15% that are here on 6-month visas to make quick money and return to Korea most likely for school, or are here on student visas going to school and working on the side. Most of these are in their 20s, and probably still speak with an accent, but are understandable at least. Although money for school seems like an extraneous cost here in the US, it is highly valued in Korea. Relatives would pool their money just so the one with the most potential could go to college. If they all fall short, the girl would rather go work 6-months in the US AMPs than to disappoint her relatives.

Over 90% of the K-chicks in the AMPs would fall under one of the 4 above categories. Very rarely is it an option, although I did have one telling me that she is working for a down payment on a house. I rarely go for the 20s but opt for the 30s or 40s because they have more vested interest in getting a regular clientele.

But Atlasiangirth is right that most live at the AMP when they are working. And what they are bound to is this agreement. Mamasan or the house owner would pay for the girl's airfare and hospice fee, for the sake of an example say, a 2-month stay. Don't forget most ladies come in with nothing. During the agreed 2-month period, the lady is contractually bound to stay in the house 24/7. She works on tips and the house time (40 or 60) goes to the house to pay off the plane fare, hospice and the house cut. This is the reason mamasan says 100 tip is okay, but the ladies always want more. And if a customer complains or house rule is broken, the house penalizes the lady with a hefty fine like 200 to 300. And trust me, it is not unheard of for a lady to pay 2000 in penalty to the house in a month.

There are some occasion where the house makes agreement with other houses to rotate girls, or if the house owner already owns other houses, and he could rotate them there. But the lady is essentially the house property until the contract agreement period is fulfilled. After the agreement date, that is usually when the lady is allowed to go shopping, or run errands. On rare occasion, they may bring in a fugly that the house can not re-coup its airfare or hospice fee to break even on the lady. In which case, they would just send the lady home at a lost. Ladies who are more resourceful end up paying their own way, but this is about less than 10% of working girls. Or if they live locally, they just drive to work, but this is equally less likely at less than 10%, because they don't want to run into customers near where they live. There is a considerable percentage in which the lady will run away before the contractual date, but I don't have a good feel for that number.

The condition of living in an AMP house 24/7 for even 2-month sounds easy, but is most unbearable for normal people. If you worked 2-weeks on an oil platform, you know what I'm talking about. You have no privacy. You are stuck and can not go anywhere. You are in constant vigilance for LE, and in case of a bust, you have no where to run, or no one to bail you out. You have personality issues with other ladies or mamasan. You bicker with others over why they make more or less money. You have little to no rights-like you can't pick or choose which customers to serve.

And my guess is that this no choose of the customer is causing most of the problems here in Atlanta. This is the fundamental difference between AMPs and SWs or CL providers. SWs or CL providers can refuse to service you. AMP ladies can not for the most part. And it is this fundamental difference that makes the AMP chicks stressed out, and screwed up in the head in the long run. And the customers being jerks just adds to the unpleasantness of the job. And remember this is Atlanta where many houses were busted just a few months ago. This isn't Rio where hot chicks are cheaper by the dozen.

Sure they are there to make money and love a "nice guy" sucker. But as I've mentioned from my previous experiences, being nice can be better in the long term. It makes the job bearable for them. It makes them want to work even more. With more chicks working, that is more supply for mongers to choose from, and can even drive down the going rate. Not only that, your Momma would be proud of you for being nice.

So I repeat,

Customer Jerk. Ladies leave. Supply decrease. Cost increase.

Customer Nice. Ladies stay. Supply increase. Cost decrease

[QUOTE=ShortFoot;1110814]Trust me on this, you don't want to be ever known as being "too nice" because to most girls this means you're a sucker just ripe for the picking. Unfortunately most of these girls become so jaded and hardened by the lifestyle that they don't know how to respond to nice guys. Trust me, I've experienced this. So BigMoney you're more likely to have a better experience if you find yourself a fuck buddy. They do exist but are so difficult to find. IMHO a fuck buddy friendship is the best thing going for me at this point.[/QUOTE]ShortFoot,

I think you right I am known around these Spas as a guy that love Asians girls with meat on their asses and that I will ONLY pay $160 and I will act a fool if a chick try to cut my time short or try to rush me to cum or anything that will piss me off that I will tell their boss.

But, if I was here in Atlanta alone on my company dime I would get me a fresh haircut and dress up all nice and hit some bars, nightclubs or join a gym and pick up some chicks and find a fuck buddy BUT spending time in money trying to be a nice guy to a bunch of AMP chicks that change locations every few weeks is a waste of time to me.

I rather be label as a asshoe, jerk, a mean guy etc. That don't put up with any bullshit from these girls then a sweet nice guy they can run all over and play silly games with me.

To me no matter were I go be it a local AMP, or Rio, Costa Rica, Panama, Thailand all of the managers know I am cool and don't look for trouble BUT I won't put up with any Bullshit.

I had a girl once in Rio that told me she will give me anal if I pick her she was all sweet and nice at the boite / bar area I was cool too she even took my dick out and played with it under the table so I pick her, BUT when I got to the room and after fucking her for 30mins I rolled her over for that ass then she said, I am sorry baby your dick to big for my ass sorry baby WTF I got up grab a towel ran out the room BUTT NAKED to the front desk and told the manager what happen they said, ok go back to the room I bring 7 girls up for you to pick from that I will make sure will make you happy and I will void this session you not pay anything.

I ended up picking this dime with a perfect ass allowed me to do whatever I wanted to on her pull hair smack her ass, anal you name it, she even brought up a bucket of beer the manager sent up with her.

You see to me IF I would have allowed her to play me like that and got paid, and didn't give me or even try to give me that ass she would run that game on others since I told her boss about it and she didn't get any money that taught her a lesson not to lie to tricks from now on.

Each time I go back to that place in Rio the boss runs out and shake my hand ask me was everything good was I happy etc, sometimes you have to let them know you aren't some ass kissing simp these wh#res can make a fool out of, I don't ever act a fool unless they make me act one 1st.

Kid Cisco