The Massholes

[QUOTE=MeatMan;4777453]She's not bad. What turns me off is her selling points as if that's going to have guys flock to her. IE deep throat, wet sheets, etc. Her persona seems full of shit. I bet you she doesn't deliver on what she sells, nothing more than a bait-and-switch, JMO.[/QUOTE]Yes, she does promise the sun, earth, moon and stars. But there are a few of factors that led me to believe she was real. The pictures are not TGTBT, she is not at all vulgar in her ad and she lists an actual location.

[QUOTE=Tommy6828;4767464]BTT.

My experience was different with Shine. Long rim, Cim, BBBJ was really great. If you want this, go to her.[/QUOTE]Ok BTT you do not speak very good English. You should put your effort into getting better women and allowing them to do BB.

Like they do out west in California and Nevada. Your agency is not very good.

[QUOTE=JohnTies;4780261]Ok BTT you do not speak very good English. You should put your effort into getting better women and allowing them to do BB.

Like they do out west in California and Nevada. Your agency is not very good.[/QUOTE]Damn brother. Easy. It's guys like you that ruin it for everyone. Don't be an a-hole. I know we pay a lot of our hard earned money for some good booty. And, if they don't perform to your liking, then look elsewhere. But, they're people and not just a sex doll.

[QUOTE=Packman12;4786666]The Spa I go to in Brighton has been closed for awhile but I tried to call since google said they were open. Connected me with the owner who I have had many massages with before with great times. Mentioned she does incalls at her place for a massage and it has me tempted. Same rates and probably more relaxed and roaming allowed in her home but I wonder if its too soon to try. I assume she has been keeping a decent distance from people since she offered me this as a regular and she mentioned plans for May 18 is an open. Is it worth it since I am itching to get a massage.[/QUOTE]You're absolutely crazy if you think you are the only one she has offered this to and why would you think she has kept distance from anyone if she's offering an incall. I've heard the "just for you" speech with people I would see weekly just to read that most of the board has the same privilege. Everything is at a risk, Wash up after, sanitize and you've done all you can.

[QUOTE=BigIrishBalls;4787381]You're absolutely crazy if you think you are the only one she has offered this to and why would you think she has kept distance from anyone if she's offering an incall. I've heard the "just for you" speech with people I would see weekly just to read that most of the board has the same privilege. Everything is at a risk, Wash up after, sanitize and you've done all you can.[/QUOTE]Oh I know I am not the only one and not some "special client". The phone lines hadn't been working for awhile and the site has been closed. Was surprised to get connected and got her personal phone number once she knew who I was as someone who has been visiting for 2+ years. She mentioned she only gave massages to a few people so I know it's not the typical work load.

[QUOTE=IceFourPlay;4788481]Not sure what the worry is, as I thought massage is ok, per state rules.[/QUOTE]LICENSED massage. Do you really think that these girls have actual licences from WI?

[QUOTE=Noob2017;4790646]LICENSED massage. Do you really think that these girls have actual licences from WI?[/QUOTE]No, I know I have had many, a non licensed massage. But I thought some did. Plus, I can't believe that the "spas" that want to be non erotic, would not just get it, and save a lot of bs for themselves. I just heard massage. My bad.

[QUOTE=Noob2017;4790646]LICENSED massage. Do you really think that these girls have actual licences from WI?[/QUOTE]Evers signed into law that all massage providers must be licensed back in February. I know in some places police did some sweeps and started enforcing it (Green Bay for sure). IL has the same law in effect for some time. That is why when there is a massage parlor bust, one woman is cited for prostitution but three others are nailed for practicing massage without a license. I think the ladies will have their certified and fluent with English friends take the test for them.

[QUOTE=SaintKiller123;4794399]Your inbox is full. I can swap UTR with you.[/QUOTE]Never made a contribution, but wants to swap UTRs.

Remember when guys coming to this board would post actual reviews before they even thought of trying this shit.

[QUOTE=Boston234;4794891]I'm not happy with the reopening plan. Looks like it can easily be delayed at any point. Effectively, I don't think things will get back to "normal" until later in the year (if that).

How are you doing any M&G? What about hotels?[/QUOTE]We won't be back to the normal we were accustomed to for at least a year (or 2 or 3). We need an effective vaccine for 330 million people and perhaps 2 doses each, or highly effective therapeutics in mass quantities. The American people are getting impatient, but the virus isn't. We can re-open things. The question is how large an increase in cases and deaths will we tolerate? A 10% jump seems tolerable. Surpassing our worst days may result in another shutdown. We appear to be nowhere near the end. We'll have a flu season during the winter. Let's hope it's not historically severe.

[QUOTE=GMan25;4793038]Evers signed into law that all massage providers must be licensed back in February. I know in some places police did some sweeps and started enforcing it (Green Bay for sure). IL has the same law in effect for some time. That is why when there is a massage parlor bust, one woman is cited for prostitution but three others are nailed for practicing massage without a license. I think the ladies will have their certified and fluent with English friends take the test for them.[/QUOTE]What are you talking about? That law has been in effect since 2009. It takes way more than taking a test to get a license in WI. [URL]https://www.massageliabilityinsurancegroup.com/state-requirements-old/wisconsin-massage-insurance-requirements/[/URL] Madison is willing to look the other way as a way to keep them off the streets, but that could change at any time. Right now, the cops only seem to react to complaints. I had the misfortune of being in one when the city inspector showed up to check their license. The masseuse came back and said that they had given her 2 days to prove that she had a license. A month later, they had replaced both girls. This is what changed by Evers [URL]https://www.jsonline.com/story/communities/waukesha/news/waukesha/2019/11/25/gov-evers-signs-bill-aimed-taking-down-massage-parlor-prostitution/4273083002/.[/URL] so now, towns will be able to shut down a place immediately instead of giving them time to get their paperwork, which usually just resulted in the AMPs changing girls but not practices, which limited the ability to arrest people. Now, if a town wants, they can pass an ordinance to immediate shut down any place that can't immediately show a valid license. Which means instead of a single state law, every town may adopt their own rules. I would definitely learn the rulkes in whatever town you visit an AMP in.

[QUOTE=Talisker1370;4795260]Never made a contribution, but wants to swap UTRs.

Remember when guys coming to this board would post actual reviews before they even thought of trying this shit.[/QUOTE]It results in endless e mails and in the end. The information you already have, is common on the board, provider lives way out of your range or otherwise useless information. 90% of what I know and do is posted.

[QUOTE=Noob2017;4795560]What are you talking about? That law has been in effect since 2009. It takes way more than taking a test to get a license in WI. [URL]https://www.massageliabilityinsurancegroup.com/state-requirements-old/wisconsin-massage-insurance-requirements/[/URL] Madison is willing to look the other way as a way to keep them off the streets, but that could change at any time. Right now, the cops only seem to react to complaints. I had the misfortune of being in one when the city inspector showed up to check their license. The masseuse came back and said that they had given her 2 days to prove that she had a license. A month later, they had replaced both girls. This is what changed by Evers [URL]https://www.jsonline.com/story/communities/waukesha/news/waukesha/2019/11/25/gov-evers-signs-bill-aimed-taking-down-massage-parlor-prostitution/4273083002/.[/URL] so now, towns will be able to shut down a place immediately instead of giving them time to get their paperwork, which usually just resulted in the AMPs changing girls but not practices, which limited the ability to arrest people. Now, if a town wants, they can pass an ordinance to immediate shut down any place that can't immediately show a valid license. Which means instead of a single state law, every town may adopt their own rules. I would definitely learn the rulkes in whatever town you visit an AMP in.[/QUOTE]Quick to argue? Attached is a news story with the new law from Nov. 2019 that I referenced. Also, when did I say the ONLY thing they must do is pass a test. A written test is included and sometimes someone else will take it for them. That is what I said. Nowhere in my post does it imply that passing a test is all it takes to get licensed. Read, don't jump. [URL]https://www.jsonline.com/story/communities/waukesha/news/waukesha/2019/11/25/gov-evers-signs-bill-aimed-taking-down-massage-parlor-prostitution/4273083002/[/URL].

[QUOTE=DickLongwood;4795366]We won't be back to the normal we were accustomed to for at least a year (or 2 or 3). We need an effective vaccine for 330 million people and perhaps 2 doses each, or highly effective therapeutics in mass quantities. The American people are getting impatient, but the virus isn't. We can re-open things. The question is how large an increase in cases and deaths will we tolerate? A 10% jump seems tolerable. Surpassing our worst days may result in another shutdown. We appear to be nowhere near the end. We'll have a flu season during the winter. Let's hope it's not historically severe.[/QUOTE]I agree it will take a while. I do think people have overreacted though. If you look at the MA covid dashboard, it shows that the average age of death is 82 and 98% of those deaths had an underlying health condition. The average age of hospitalization is 68 and those also have an underlying health condition. It seems to me that for the typical person no lockdown is needed. Efforts should be focused on the elderly.

Oh well, I guess people are OK with the economic slowdown. It will cause a demand contraction in 2021 which will impact mostly white collar jobs. I wonder if people would still want the lockdown if they are told they will lose their job next year?

[QUOTE=DickLongwood;4795366]We won't be back to the normal we were accustomed to for at least a year (or 2 or 3). We need an effective vaccine for 330 million people and perhaps 2 doses each, or highly effective therapeutics in mass quantities. The American people are getting impatient, but the virus isn't. We can re-open things. The question is how large an increase in cases and deaths will we tolerate? A 10% jump seems tolerable. Surpassing our worst days may result in another shutdown. We appear to be nowhere near the end. We'll have a flu season during the winter. Let's hope it's not historically severe.[/QUOTE]Obviously you have done zero research at all on infectious disease / virus and the protocols on how to handle them.

Have not looked at any real numbers, learned about this virus at all. Can see you are panic stricken and afraid with your post.

You do know there has never been a vaccine for a respiratory Corona virus, ever!

Now we are supposed to believe there will be a real, safe, effective vaccine in just mere months.

If you want to take that I wish you luck.

Do some real research and educate yourself.