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Personally I think Trump is over rated.
[QUOTE=VinnieKramer;5536510]I'm merely presenting facts, and the fact is crime is down over the last 30 years or so. The original post claimed crime was increasing.
Given that most crimes are prosecuted at the state and local level, the president has little to do with the rate. State level programs are the driver, from laws being written to policing through to prosecution. The number of people incarcerated in state prisons is 10 X the number of federal prisons.[/QUOTE]The goal for republicans and democrats alike is to create a permanent underclass. Thats why they are focusing on going after stuff like the hobby, it saddles people with records and makes it difficult for them to get jobs and get by. And you can look at the statistics but alot of that is misleading because most of the crime in the big cities is off the charts. Its just that most of it doesn't get reported, because instead of going after dangerous criminals they make the easy arrests with DUI checkpoints and posting up a bogus ad drinking soda and eating bags of chips in a hotel room to slap average joe taxpayer with an "engaging in prostitution" and "criminal tools" charge. Also alot of the departments are short on officers as well, so that is even higher odds of big time criminals getting away with stuff while they are running other useless operations. It actually makes sense from their standpoint, everyone is against the police now, so work smart not hard and don't put yourself in any danger collect your check and get your pension. I'm sure alot of people would do the same thing if they were in their shoes.
[QUOTE=MuffDiverDan;5536648]Personally I think Trump is over rated.[/QUOTE]Overrated or underrated he never murdered Americans like Hillary and Biden has.
[QUOTE=Chunks92;5536682]The goal for republicans and democrats alike is to create a permanent underclass. Thats why they are focusing on going after stuff like the hobby, it saddles people with records and makes it difficult for them to get jobs and get by. And you can look at the statistics but alot of that is misleading because most of the crime in the big cities is off the charts. Its just that most of it doesn't get reported, because instead of going after dangerous criminals they make the easy arrests with DUI checkpoints and posting up a bogus ad drinking soda and eating bags of chips in a hotel room to slap average joe taxpayer with an "engaging in prostitution" and "criminal tools" charge. Also alot of the departments are short on officers as well, so that is even higher odds of big time criminals getting away with stuff while they are running other useless operations. It actually makes sense from their standpoint, everyone is against the police now, so work smart not hard and don't put yourself in any danger collect your check and get your pension. I'm sure alot of people would do the same thing if they were in their shoes.[/QUOTE][B][i]>>The goal for republicans and democrats alike is to create a permanent underclass.[/i][/B]
As in, that's their actual goal? You think when they have zoom meetings that they have that as number one on their slide deck? When they have conferences in Vegas do the breakout sessions all start with reinforcing this big goal?
Just curious.
[QUOTE=RogerOver;5536856][B][i]>>The goal for republicans and democrats alike is to create a permanent underclass.[/i][/B]
As in, that's their actual goal? You think when they have zoom meetings that they have that as number one on their slide deck? When they have conferences in Vegas do the breakout sessions all start with reinforcing this big goal?
Just curious.[/QUOTE]But they are all in the pocket of bit political campaign contributors who probably do actively try to do that. So #1 on the slide deck is "How to keep my campaign donors happy". Which could mean cracking down on stupid laws that mostly affect the lower classes.
[QUOTE=Vicsajo;5536956]But they are all in the pocket of bit political campaign contributors who probably do actively try to do that. So #1 on the slide deck is "How to keep my campaign donors happy". Which could mean cracking down on stupid laws that mostly affect the lower classes.[/QUOTE]Thank you, for in a nutshell, summing up the point that my long message was trying to get across. This is exactly what will happen too. Look at when an attorney cop or doctor gets caught. Wrist slapped, back on the job they go. But if its an average joe it messes their life up much more severely. And again as I have stated before, the part I find the most ironic is the fact that the exact people who are fighting to punish people more in a hooker sting they don't even realize it but they have higher odds of getting caught then most of us on this board. Lets face it, everyone gets horny, and most of them who have never done it before would not know how to navigate the murky world of the hobby today. Meanwhile those like us we have witnessed the game evolve over the past few decades and know what type of things to look out for and to avoid. Absolutely fascinating and accurate if you think about it.
[QUOTE=HillbillyBob;5536854]Overrated or underrated he never murdered Americans like Hillary and Biden has.[/QUOTE]He killed over 100 people who died of poisoning after he said drink bleach, and disinfectant, he's a fucking loon.
[QUOTE=HillbillyBob;5536854]Overrated or underrated he never murdered Americans like Hillary and Biden has.[/QUOTE]When are the indictments for "murder" on Hillary expected? Maybe another 10 or 15 hours of testimony needed?
63 US service members died in Afghanistan while Trump was president. When will you be swearing out your complaint?
Tgd.
The OPs pic of that rump is a sad look. Butt, it's better than some of the EB tushies some of you mongerloids are posting about. JS.
[QUOTE=MuffDiverDan;5536648]Personally I think Trump is over rated.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=HillbillyBob;5536854]Overrated or underrated he never murdered Americans like Hillary and Biden has.[/QUOTE]Hillbilly, that was some Ignorant post. Damn, dude, stick to hookers instead of worshipping trump and defiling anyone in the other party. Fuck. "Murder"? The Hillary nonsense was cooked up by crazies crazier than Rudy, and of course, Joe strapped the bomb on the Isis suicide terrorist. Fuck. This is exactly what's wrong with my party, why can't we be sane and intelligent as a Republican??
[QUOTE=DNut;5536037]I think what they were showing was that the trend started in 1993, during Bill Clinton's time so Bill Clinton should get the credit.
Typical that Trumptards give Trump credit for a 3. 4% unemployment rate (pre-Covid), but conveniently forgets that Barack Obama took it from 10.1% to 3. 8%. All Trump did was. . 7% in three years. Less than a percentage point. That's like saying his accomplishment was just not to screw up someone else's work.[/QUOTE]You're confusing them with real facts! This is a novel idea. I like.
[QUOTE=BengalMan;5537807]You're confusing them with real facts! This is a novel idea. I like.[/QUOTE]The key is to type slower because you just know they can't read fast.
[QUOTE=BengalMan;5537805]Hillbilly, that was some Ignorant post. Damn, dude, stick to hookers instead of worshipping trump and defiling anyone in the other party. Fuck. "Murder"? The Hillary nonsense was cooked up by crazies crazier than Rudy, and of course, Joe strapped the bomb on the Isis suicide terrorist. Fuck. This is exactly what's wrong with my party, why can't we be sane and intelligent as a Republican??[/QUOTE]Then the loser football team you have probably rooted for your whole life. I don't think anyone who is a Bengal fan should comment on anything since you are obviously clinically insane. Always expecting a different result. Truthfully I have no idea why people hitch their horses up to either one of these wagons. Neither one could give two shits about none of you but you argue and call names like little kids defending them. Both parties are a big shit stain and should be embarrassed when they steal tax payers money.
I don't come here to talk about politics, but I succumbed to a moment of weakness. I deleted it, but the delete function didn't work. Sorry, mod.
[QUOTE=BengalMan;5537805]Hillbilly, that was some Ignorant post. Damn, dude, stick to hookers instead of worshipping trump and defiling anyone in the other party. Fuck. "Murder"? The Hillary nonsense was cooked up by crazies crazier than Rudy, and of course, Joe strapped the bomb on the Isis suicide terrorist. Fuck. This is exactly what's wrong with my party, why can't we be sane and intelligent as a Republican??[/QUOTE]Just facts you have to understand the difference in kill in action an murdered by working with terrorist. But you left wing won't understand real facts.
[QUOTE=HillbillyBob;5538735]Just facts you have to understand the difference in kill in action an murdered by working with terrorist. But you left wing won't understand real facts.[/QUOTE]I'll bite. So, please explain it then, in detail. Provide the who, what, when, where, and how. Be sure to state facts, not suppositions based on suspicions, based on guess work, based on a GOP wishful thinking wet dream.
Example: Benghazi. That was just a GOP fantasy porno. But they spent 4 years, using 9 (Nine!) committees, at one point interrogating Hillary Clinton for 24 hours, and found bupkus. Zero. Zilch. Nada, a big ol' fat goose egg.
So, please explain, (and I am just copying here) "[I] the difference in kill in action an murdered by working with terrorist[/I]".
[QUOTE=HillbillyBob;5538735]Just facts you have to understand the difference in kill in action an murdered by working with terrorist. But you left wing won't understand real facts.[/QUOTE]Hillbilly I respect your knowledge of pussy and providers. The idea of "facts"? Huh?
You are saying that Hillary murdered someone. What??
You are saying Biden murdered someone. What??
That type of nonsense is what lost me with the party. And here's a fact, I'm not a left wing. Far from it.
[QUOTE=DNut;5539313]Example: Benghazi. That was just a GOP fantasy porno. But they spent 4 years, using 9 (Nine!) committees, at one point interrogating Hillary Clinton for 24 hours, and found bupkus. Zero. Zilch. Nada, a big ol' fat goose egg.".[/QUOTE]Correction. 14 hours. I don't want to get accused of lying because of a typo. Just wanted to get it on record.
I am cross-posting this from the Escort thread to get additional perspectives.
I do some small business consulting and take a professional interest in how these things work. I have chatted with some women who are successful on OF. I typically catch them when they visit a sugar site trying to generate interest in their OF page. There are women in our area making $2-10 K+ per month with it. As with a lot of things, there is a power curve at work with a small percent of the women making the vast bulk of the money. However, these were not women who left an escort site. It is usually women who started in the cam world. Or who join OF as an alternative to being a sugar baby. Some of migrated from trying to do something similar on IG. The ones who earn the most are usually the ones who look the best.
The ones who are good at OF treat it as a job. They are putting in 5-6 hours a day, or more, creating and posting content. They also have to work their SM sites daily like a trapper working his trap lines. They need to post teaser content and cajole people in their DM's to give it a try. They lure men from Tinder to IG to Twitter and then to OF. They need a presence on Snap, Tinder, Twitter, IG and sometimes a few others like ManyVids. They have to post on OF about three times a day and they have to check frequently for special requests. They watch the sites of other women looking for ideas for new content. Most guys have no idea how hard it is to come up with fresh ideas, new costumes and new activity to avoid repetition.
The math is not as easy as some people make it sound. At a $20 subscription price, they need 100 steady customers to make $2 K. That's before the site takes its 20% cut. However, those men are fickle. Some are always leaving and new ones must be added. They can supplement the subscriptions by taking special requests but those take a lot of time that cannot be leveraged with the other subscribers. In short, OF is a business and takes an entrepreneurial spirit and approach to make money doing it. People who say OF has reduced the supply of other sex workers have to assume that these same women have the drive, energy, ambition and organizational skill to pull it off. I am skeptical.
BAM.
[QUOTE=BamBam;5539660]I am cross-posting this from the Escort thread to get additional perspectives.
I do some small business consulting and take a professional interest in how these things work. I have chatted with some women who are successful on OF. I typically catch them when they visit a sugar site trying to generate interest in their OF page. There are women in our area making $2-10 K+ per month with it. As with a lot of things, there is a power curve at work with a small percent of the women making the vast bulk of the money. However, these were not women who left an escort site. It is usually women who started in the cam world. Or who join OF as an alternative to being a sugar baby. Some of migrated from trying to do something similar on IG. The ones who earn the most are usually the ones who look the best.
The ones who are good at OF treat it as a job. They are putting in 5-6 hours a day, or more, creating and posting content. They also have to work their SM sites daily like a trapper working his trap lines. They need to post teaser content and cajole people in their DM's to give it a try. They lure men from Tinder to IG to Twitter and then to OF. They need a presence on Snap, Tinder, Twitter, IG and sometimes a few others like ManyVids. They have to post on OF about three times a day and they have to check frequently for special requests. They watch the sites of other women looking for ideas for new content. Most guys have no idea how hard it is to come up with fresh ideas, new costumes and new activity to avoid repetition.
The math is not as easy as some people make it sound. At a $20 subscription price, they need 100 steady customers to make $2 K. That's before the site takes its 20% cut. However, those men are fickle. Some are always leaving and new ones must be added. They can supplement the subscriptions by taking special requests but those take a lot of time that cannot be leveraged with the other subscribers. In short, OF is a business and takes an entrepreneurial spirit and approach to make money doing it. People who say OF has reduced the supply of other sex workers have to assume that these same women have the drive, energy, ambition and organizational skill to pull it off. I am skeptical.
BAM.[/QUOTE]I'm also thinking that the OF customer base is different, too. I personally have very little interest in paying for photos and videos. I haven't paid for porn or photos for *years*.
Speaking of which, the OF girls are competing with free. The hub sites seem to have just about everything, from vintage porn to rough gangbangs. It's hard to imagine how the OF girls can compete with that.
Also: Thanks, Bam, for putting a post in this thread that did not include the words "Biden" or "Trump".
[QUOTE=ToddCincy;5539932]I'm also thinking that the OF customer base is different, too. I personally have very little interest in paying for photos and videos. I haven't paid for porn or photos for *years*.
Speaking of which, the OF girls are competing with free. The hub sites seem to have just about everything, from vintage porn to rough gangbangs. It's hard to imagine how the OF girls can compete with that.
Also: Thanks, Bam, for putting a post in this thread that did not include the words "Biden" or "Trump".[/QUOTE]The popularity of OF isn't based on what you see. It's based on WHO you see. Most of the followers of OF girls, with the exception of bona fide celebrities (Bella Thorne, for example), are people these girls know in real life. Customers aren't paying to see tits. They are paying to see tits that they've hugged before, but never got to see. They pay to see the ass that they've only seen behind the bar at the local tavern. I can see tits any time I type, "tits" on my phone. But they won't be the tits that was being kept out of sight by that tight Bengals shirt of the girl my girlfriend brought along with that extra ticket we had. Girls can post on Reddit, or on SB sites, or on Escort sites all they want, that they have an OF page. But there's no better promotion that finding out that the girl that just bent over to serve me and my buddies drink, I can see her and all her glory, for less than the price of 3 beers at the bar.
It's the deal with the devil these non-celebrity girls make. Are you okay with people you personally know, knowing what you look like naked, and potentially have these photos of you at their fingertips to bust a nut over? They're the main client base, not the one or two strangers that happened to have come across your page, pun intented.
[QUOTE=DNut;5539968]The popularity of OF isn't based on what you see. It's based on WHO you see. Most of the followers of OF girls, with the exception of bona fide celebrities (Bella Thorne, for example), are people these girls know in real life. Customers aren't paying to see tits. They are paying to see tits that they've hugged before, but never got to see. They pay to see the ass that they've only seen behind the bar at the local tavern. I can see tits any time I type, "tits" on my phone. But they won't be the tits that was being kept out of sight by that tight Bengals shirt of the girl my girlfriend brought along with that extra ticket we had. Girls can post on Reddit, or on SB sites, or on Escort sites all they want, that they have an OF page. But there's no better promotion that finding out that the girl that just bent over to serve me and my buddies drink, I can see her and all her glory, for less than the price of 3 beers at the bar.
It's the deal with the devil these non-celebrity girls make. Are you okay with people you personally know, knowing what you look like naked, and potentially have these photos of you at their fingertips to bust a nut over? They're the main client base, not the one or two strangers that happened to have come across your page, pun intented.[/QUOTE]You hit the nail on the head! I would never pay for porn but on 2 separate occasions I found on IG hot ass tenants that had OF pages. It was a small price to pay to have videos of girls that I fantasize about whenever I see them.
It's like being a voyeur jacking off to something you should not be able to see. Also you can find out if they escort without the embarrassment of being turned down and outed.
[QUOTE=DNut;5539313]
Example: Benghazi. That was just a GOP fantasy porno. But they spent 4 years, using 9 (Nine!) committees, at one point interrogating Hillary Clinton for 24 hours, and found bupkus. Zero. Zilch. Nada, a big ol' fat goose egg.[/QUOTE]The party loonies jerked off to every one of those hearings shouting "Benghazi" every time they nutted! Oddly, they jerked off even MORE when Hillary was being interrogated?! I thought the loonies didn't like Hillary? Oh well, I guess everyone has their favorite jerk off fantasies, guess for loony crazy republicans it's Hillary in a pantsuit.
[QUOTE=BengalMan;5540340]The party loonies jerked off to every one of those hearings shouting "Benghazi" every time they nutted! Oddly, they jerked off even MORE when Hillary was being interrogated?! I thought the loonies didn't like Hillary? Oh well, I guess everyone has their favorite jerk off fantasies, guess for loony crazy republicans it's Hillary in a pantsuit.[/QUOTE]Here is what she said in those meetings "I did not murder those people". She learned that phrase from Bill LOL.
[QUOTE=Holdrhem;5540333]You hit the nail on the head! I would never pay for porn but on 2 separate occasions I found on IG hot ass tenants that had OF pages. It was a small price to pay to have videos of girls that I fantasize about whenever I see them.
It's like being a voyeur jacking off to something you should not be able to see. Also you can find out if they escort without the embarrassment of being turned down and outed.[/QUOTE]I dream daily of this. No dice yet LOL.
Football Sunday, I'm sitting with a bunch of my friends, some of them ex-military, law enforcement, and even former border patrol. This topic came up. Crime is the "worst they've ever seen", their words, not mine. And they do this for a living.
Below is a collage of recent articles from 2021, mostly the Summer of 2021, just recently. VIOLENT crimes hit the HIGHEST they have ever been in 2021. Keep in mind two things: Journalism is always PIT (point in time). Secondly, it's a function of what gets reported. I read where 14% of police force (average) have either early retired or resigned this year due to the BS they've had to put up with. So less arrests in some cites, equals less reported, simply because they can't address it all. But in their words, it's increasing. Just though these facts below might help, for anyone interested in this subject. Anyway, appreciate the original post.
CRIME 2021:
Denver crime up 22% in June since last year: So far, 2021 is looking even worse: [URL]https://kdvr.com/news/local/denver-crime-up-22-in-june-since-last-year/[/URL].
Chicago's most violent weekend of 2021:104 shot, 19 of them killed. 13 kids among the wounded: [URL]https://chicago.suntimes.com/crime/2021/7/3/22561910/chicago-weekend-shootings-july-2-5-homicide-gun-violence[/URL].
Chicago Gun Violence: 461 Shootings Reported in July, Up 15% From Last Year: [URL]https://www.nbcchicago.com/news/local/chicago-gun-violence-461-shootings-reported-in-july-up-15-from-last-year/2575176/[/URL].
Murder rate soars in Los Angeles. The 179 homicides in the first six months of the year is the highest total in more than a decade: [URL]https://xtown.la/2021/07/16/murder-rate-soars/[/URL].
Deadly 4th of July Weekend: More than 230 people fatally shot in shootings over the Fourth of July weekend: [URL]https://www.cnn.com/2021/07/05/us/us-shootings-july-fourth-weekend/index.html[/URL].
No question about it': Providence police officials say city is seeing a spike in violent crime: [URL]https://www.boston.com/news/local-news/2021/08/11/no-question-about-it-providence-police-officials-say-city-is-seeing-a-spike-in-violent-crime/[/URL].
NYPD: Shootings up 166%, fueling NYC crime surge: [URL]https://www.news10.com/news/ny-news/nypd-shootings-up-166-fueling-nyc-crime-surge/[/URL].
New York's Crime Wave: Murders are poised to drop below 2020 levels soon. But there and elsewhere, violence is still a lot worse than before the pandemic: [URL]https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2021-07-30/new-york-s-crime-wave-is-showing-signs-of-breaking[/URL].
US Homicides continue to rise 2021: Report: Homicides Continue to Slowly Rise in the USA, While Other Violent Crime Rates Decline: [URL]https://time.com/6086558/us-homicides-violent-crime-rates/[/URL].
[QUOTE=VinnieKramer;5536510]I'm merely presenting facts, and the fact is crime is down over the last 30 years or so. The original post claimed crime was increasing.
Given that most crimes are prosecuted at the state and local level, the president has little to do with the rate. State level programs are the driver, from laws being written to policing through to prosecution. The number of people incarcerated in state prisons is 10 X the number of federal prisons.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=DickMorehead;5540824]Here is what she said in those meetings "I did not murder those people". She learned that phrase from Bill LOL.[/QUOTE]Weren't you paying attention? According to Hillbilly Bob, there's a, "[I]difference in kill in action an murdered by working with terrorist[/I]". So if people die because you worked with a terrorist, you're a murderer.
[QUOTE=BengalMan;5539543]Hillbilly I respect your knowledge of pussy and providers. The idea of "facts"? Huh?
You are saying that Hillary murdered someone. What??
You are saying Biden murdered someone. What??
That type of nonsense is what lost me with the party. And here's a fact, I'm not a left wing. Far from it.[/QUOTE]No big loss to the party asshole! Put your frigging blindfold back on. Are you serious? When you look up 'liar' and 'evil' I the dictionary there are multiple pics of Hillary. If her lips are moving she is lying, how stupid are you Bengal Man? As far as Biden is concerned you are a stupid MF!
[QUOTE=GoodWill123;5541446]Football Sunday, I'm sitting with a bunch of my friends, some of them ex-military, law enforcement, and even former border patrol. This topic came up. Crime is the "worst they've ever seen", their words, not mine. And they do this for a living.[/QUOTE]None of that really means shit. It's what we call, "anecdotal. " Why would people charged with catching criminals ever perceive that crime is dropping? When you're a hammer, everything looks like a nail.
Also, those links you posted are articles, not studies. If I need to explain to you why that's an important distinction, then it wouldn't matter that I explained it to you. The fact that these all seem to be the friends you have probably distorts your world-view.
1. They do this for a living. They know the slope a line, trend. 2. Articles are factual, and based on studies. Just presenting the facts. You can do what you want with it.
By the way, my world view is just fine, but thank you. LOL, I have lots of friends by the way, all walks of life, but ill tell them you said that ().
[QUOTE=RogerOver;5541579]None of that really means shit. It's what we call, "anecdotal. " Why would people charged with catching criminals ever perceive that crime is dropping? When you're a hammer, everything looks like a nail. The fact that these all seem to be the friends you have probably distorts your world-view.
All those links you posted are articles, not studies.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=DNut;5539968]The popularity of OF isn't based on what you see. It's based on WHO you see. Most of the followers of OF girls, with the exception of bona fide celebrities (Bella Thorne, for example), are people these girls know in real life. Customers aren't paying to see tits. They are paying to see tits that they've hugged before, but never got to see. They pay to see the ass that they've only seen behind the bar at the local tavern. I can see tits any time I type, "tits" on my phone. But they won't be the tits that was being kept out of sight by that tight Bengals shirt of the girl my girlfriend brought along with that extra ticket we had. Girls can post on Reddit, or on SB sites, or on Escort sites all they want, that they have an OF page. But there's no better promotion that finding out that the girl that just bent over to serve me and my buddies drink, I can see her and all her glory, for less than the price of 3 beers at the bar.
It's the deal with the devil these non-celebrity girls make. Are you okay with people you personally know, knowing what you look like naked, and potentially have these photos of you at their fingertips to bust a nut over? They're the main client base, not the one or two strangers that happened to have come across your page, pun intented.[/QUOTE]This is the best explainer that I've seen for why OF flourishes in the face of free porn. I'll probably steal it and use it in a discussion somewhere else. Thanks!
[QUOTE=GoodWill123;5541588]1. They do this for a living. They know the slope a line, trend. 2. Articles are factual, and based on studies. Just presenting the facts. You can do what you want with it.
[b]By the way, my world view is just fine, but thank you. LOL, I have lots of friends by the way, all walks of life, but ill tell them you said that ()[/b].[/QUOTE]LOL. Do that. Tell your friends, "ya know; I was just having this discussion on a hooker board, and blah bla".
Seriously, you seem like a nice enough sort, but I think you're misguided. I have a lot of friends from all walks of life and my own experiences. Some are pretty conservative; some with stump musters, special operations, and yeah, law enforcement.
I can promise you we tend to gravitate towards the folks we like to be around. That's why despite my association with people like that, I tend to skip the re-unions and meetups because I know I'll get tired fast of their blue-lives-matter-we're-so-persecuted bullshit.
I wish you the best. I'm sure you're earnest in your beliefs, but I think you're just another misguided person. Good luck.
Thank you. Likewise!
[QUOTE=RogerOver;5541604]LOL. Do that. Tell your friends, "ya know; I was just having this discussion on a hooker board, and blah bla".
Seriously, you seem like a nice enough sort, but I think you're misguided. I have a lot of friends from all walks of life and my own experiences. Some are pretty conservative; some with stump musters, special operations, and yeah, law enforcement.
I can promise you we tend to gravitate towards the folks we like to be around. That's why despite my association with people like that, I tend to skip the re-unions and meetups because I know I'll get tired fast of their blue-lives-matter-we're-so-persecuted bullshit.
I wish you the best. I'm sure you're earnest in your beliefs, but I think you're just another misguided person. Good luck.[/QUOTE]
That's an interesting perspective. And since I freely admit that I cannot understand the appeal of OF *at all*, I see no reason to dispute it.
I am now in my early 50's. There aren't too many women in my immediate peer group whom I'd pay to see naked. But circa 1995, yes, there may have been an appeal. And in 1985 (when I was in high school), I would have been all over the concept.
Nowadays, though, not so much.
[QUOTE=DNut;5539968]The popularity of OF isn't based on what you see. It's based on WHO you see. Most of the followers of OF girls, with the exception of bona fide celebrities (Bella Thorne, for example), are people these girls know in real life. Customers aren't paying to see tits. They are paying to see tits that they've hugged before, but never got to see. They pay to see the ass that they've only seen behind the bar at the local tavern. I can see tits any time I type, "tits" on my phone. But they won't be the tits that was being kept out of sight by that tight Bengals shirt of the girl my girlfriend brought along with that extra ticket we had. Girls can post on Reddit, or on SB sites, or on Escort sites all they want, that they have an OF page. But there's no better promotion that finding out that the girl that just bent over to serve me and my buddies drink, I can see her and all her glory, for less than the price of 3 beers at the bar.
It's the deal with the devil these non-celebrity girls make. Are you okay with people you personally know, knowing what you look like naked, and potentially have these photos of you at their fingertips to bust a nut over? They're the main client base, not the one or two strangers that happened to have come across your page, pun intented.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=DickMorehead;5541515]No big loss to the party asshole! Put your frigging blindfold back on. Are you serious? When you look up 'liar' and 'evil' I the dictionary there are multiple pics of Hillary. If her lips are moving she is lying, how stupid are you Bengal Man? As far as Biden is concerned you are a stupid MF![/QUOTE]You are one gay young man. Jerking off to Hillary while giving head to your boyfriend.
No big loss.
There is no sense to argue with retarded Socialist Democrats like DNUT & RogerOver etc.; They will soon be like their leader / false God Joe, and that is senile or better yet like his son Dumbo.
For the trees.
There is no doubt, that YoY, some crime is up in some locations. But, as the charts I provided (which are based on government reporting) clearly indicated, crime is down significantly over the last 30 years or so.
And, crime in 2021 is likely less than 2019 and certainly going to be less than 2010 unless the criminals really turn it up in the 4th quarter.
[URL]https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/2019/crime-in-the-u.s.-2019/topic-pages/tables/table-1[/URL]
[QUOTE=GoodWill123;5541446]Football Sunday, I'm sitting with a bunch of my friends, some of them ex-military, law enforcement, and even former border patrol. This topic came up. Crime is the "worst they've ever seen", their words, not mine. And they do this for a living.
Below is a collage of recent articles from 2021, mostly the Summer of 2021, just recently. VIOLENT crimes hit the HIGHEST they have ever been in 2021. Keep in mind two things: Journalism is always PIT (point in time). Secondly, it's a function of what gets reported. I read where 14% of police force (average) have either early retired or resigned this year due to the BS they've had to put up with. So less arrests in some cites, equals less reported, simply because they can't address it all. But in their words, it's increasing. Just though these facts below might help, for anyone interested in this subject. Anyway, appreciate the original post.
CRIME 2021:
Denver crime up 22% in June since last year: So far, 2021 is looking even worse: [URL]https://kdvr.com/news/local/denver-crime-up-22-in-june-since-last-year/[/URL].
Chicago's most violent weekend of 2021:104 shot, 19 of them killed. 13 kids among the wounded: [URL]https://chicago.suntimes.com/crime/2021/7/3/22561910/chicago-weekend-shootings-july-2-5-homicide-gun-violence[/URL].
Chicago Gun Violence: 461 Shootings Reported in July, Up 15% From Last Year: [URL]https://www.nbcchicago.com/news/local/chicago-gun-violence-461-shootings-reported-in-july-up-15-from-last-year/2575176/[/URL].
Murder rate soars in Los Angeles. The 179 homicides in the first six months of the year is the highest total in more than a decade: [URL]https://xtown.la/2021/07/16/murder-rate-soars/[/URL].
Deadly 4th of July Weekend: More than 230 people fatally shot in shootings over the Fourth of July weekend: [URL]https://www.cnn.com/2021/07/05/us/us-shootings-july-fourth-weekend/index.html[/URL].
No question about it': Providence police officials say city is seeing a spike in violent crime: [URL]https://www.boston.com/news/local-news/2021/08/11/no-question-about-it-providence-police-officials-say-city-is-seeing-a-spike-in-violent-crime/[/URL].
NYPD: Shootings up 166%, fueling NYC crime surge: [URL]https://www.news10.com/news/ny-news/nypd-shootings-up-166-fueling-nyc-crime-surge/[/URL].
New York's Crime Wave: Murders are poised to drop below 2020 levels soon. But there and elsewhere, violence is still a lot worse than before the pandemic: [URL]https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2021-07-30/new-york-s-crime-wave-is-showing-signs-of-breaking[/URL].
US Homicides continue to rise 2021: Report: Homicides Continue to Slowly Rise in the USA, While Other Violent Crime Rates Decline: [URL]https://time.com/6086558/us-homicides-violent-crime-rates/[/URL].[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=YoTooBig;5542144]There is no sense to argue with retarded Socialist Democrats like DNUT & RogerOver etc.; They will soon be like their leader / false God Joe, and that is senile or better yet like his son Dumbo.[/QUOTE]"False God". LOLOLOLOLOL Oh, the complete lack of self-awareness as well as self-own of this post. Hahahaha.
It ranks right up there with "stealing the election" (insurrection anyone), pro-life (repeal the Healthcare millions depend on as well as food programs that feed poor children), "Stand with the blue" (unless they try to stop you from overturning a fair election). It ranks right up there. It's rank.
[QUOTE=DNut;5542412]"False God". LOLOLOLOLOL Oh, the complete lack of self-awareness as well as self-own of this post. Hahahaha.
It ranks right up there with "stealing the election" (insurrection anyone), pro-life (repeal the Healthcare millions depend on as well as food programs that feed poor children), "Stand with the blue" (unless they try to stop you from overturning a fair election). It ranks right up there. It's rank.[/QUOTE]How can someone support a guy that supports the mandate penalty that literally cost Americans thousands of dollars, poor americans at that! Or wrote the crime bill that put thousands of minorities in prison, and also targets things like the hobby! I understand why people voted for Biden because he wasnt Trump, but to actually think that he is a good president its just not reality. Respect for you DNut but I can't support what Biden is doing I just can't. And I'm a Dem. the only good thing hes done is support a womans right to choose. But if they really supported a womans right to choose, why is a woman or for that matter a man selling themself illegal as well? After all, what a certain Vice President did to get herself to get into that position is not all that different then what an escort does. just a thought.
[QUOTE=GoodWill123;5541588]1. They do this for a living. They know the slope a line, trend. 2. Articles are factual, and based on studies. Just presenting the facts. You can do what you want with it.
By the way, my world view is just fine, but thank you. LOL, I have lots of friends by the way, all walks of life, but ill tell them you said that ().[/QUOTE]Roger has a point on police reporting of crime and you have your point on crime is up. Think on this for a minute and reflect. The numbers are approximate because I do not have time to retrieve data from various sites. Basically, there has been about 1200 people cited for human trafficking and only 2 convictions! So, why is that? Well my thought is anything that is gray enough to be cited gets cited by police so they are busy and on the next cycle of grants they can say we arrested 1200 people for human trafficking to get more grant money! It would be nice if they had to report convictions instead, the grant money would be better used in other programs!!