Oldest profession ain't goin no where.
Same here FL.
But for everyone else, just so you know. Once a decent looking girl goes live on the scene (Especially on BP) You can best bet her phone is blowing up constantly. Most of the calls or text are losers trying to lowball but there are some really good guys out there who don't give two F*cks about what it's going to take to get the girl to them ahead of all the other slimeballs. She will go with the best possible option every time. This is why GOOD providers at times either up their game to a higher echelon or disappear altogether. This DOES NOT APPLY to the low end girls that are messed up on drugs, BSC, or just plain unattractive. So what's leftover for you to "negotiate" with are the lower tier girls. Yes, they will take the negotiation because it could be the difference between a fix and no fix. No self respecting smart man really wants to see these girls because of the higher risk factor. So just be informed that if you are seeing girls that will negotiate low rates with you, there is a good chance of serious underlying problems and your risk factor just went up ten fold. If you are ok with that, then so be it.
One of my UTR ladies showed me her emails one day and she has a handful of guys that spend 1000+ on her for a few hours of time on a very regular basis. She's worth that, no doubt. But that is even out of my range for that sort of time.
Point is, substandard providers are bargain basement if you just want a nut, just don't expect (or demand) Full on GFE services, clean location, smoke free, good hygiene, fresh and ready, timely starts or even good communication. These chicks are ON DRUGS!! And you have absolutely no grounds to come on the board and complain. Chalk it up for what it is. Put your big boy pants on and move on to better things.
Now, for those of you who get it and understand the value of a GOOD provider that takes good care of herself, provides comfortable date environment, gives you some good conversation and makes you want to see her over and over. Don't Eff it up. Be a gentleman and do NOT negotiate with her. You can allow her to give you maybe some extra time or extra perks as she sees fit or comfortable with. You will have a much better rapport that way.
On the subject of tipping (last time) DO NOT TIP slum BP girls! For god sakes don't do that! But for your GOOD providers, do something nice, A little tip here and there, greeting cards, flowers, Food, etc. Little nice gestures will get your REMEMBERED and well taken care of for future dates. Here is an example. One of my UTR girls Knows that I have always taken care of her. On one Afternoon, she had a girlfriend with her and she said she'd come over but her GF would be with her. I agreed that was ok. Well after about an hr, she got her GF to join in for a threeway. Totally unexpected, but we had a great time and I tried to give a little extra for the added bonus but she said "No, I got this. It's my turn to do something special for you" This is where GOOD providers trump these low end BP girls.
Last note. If anyone wants to "work together" how about working together to take better care of the handful of decent BP girls out there. If you take better care of them, treat them nicely they will stick around longer and not be subject to being jaded from piss poor negatives of the industry.
[QUOTE=FatLever;2794232]I got to agree with SmithWick here. I've been on the other end with providers plenty of times when they are holding the phone next to me and texting back mongers and I've seen it in front of my eyes where providers will text back and say, I can't right now, I already have an appointment. Text from a monger comes back, forget him, I'll give you $$. 5 Previous guy who is halfway there is cancelled.
I've also been with providers get call after call with guys only willing to give up. 4 and the depending on the girl she insists, "No, . 6 or. 8 or $ is the lowest I can go" It is really fucking tiresome for them. But from what I am hearing I guess they give in or at least a steep discount is had a lot of times.
Since diametrically opposed strategies work for different mongers I doubt we will be working together anytime soon.[/QUOTE]
Last point about negotiating.
[QUOTE=MikeLittle;2794238]We can close this topic and points noted. Thank you![/QUOTE]Gentlemen.
I just want to express my gratitude to you all for the discussion about rates, negotiating, etc. I am probably one of the most infrequent partakers on the board and the information shared is simply priceless. I wonder sometimes if I am crazy because I negotiate some very serious dollars on a daily basis iny profession, however, it literally NEVER occurs to me to even try to negotiate with these ladies. My thought has always been that their price is their price and if it doesn't seem to match what I see in the pictures, I kindly move on. They are sharing their bodies with me so I figure why even insult them by suggesting that it isn't worth what they say it is worth. If they OFFER a better price, I usually will take it and still give them the regular price. I guess my attitude will change if I decide to pick up my pace.
Anyway, I appreciate the education and stay safe, gents.
I would recommend avoiding
I'll write in more detail as soon as I'm able, but just saw your post and wanted to strongly suggest avoiding this one.
[QUOTE=Sgiii;2794921]Has anyone any info to share?
[URL]http://raleigh.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/let-me-be-your-early-valentine-4-6-81-specials/25919088[/URL][/QUOTE]
Pang rise like the Phoenix
[QUOTE=MajorSlowCum;2794896]Will miss poor pang and his long and unbelievable stories. He use to email me whole chapters that I would read before lights out. Guy did some very risky things. To much gay stories sometimes. But everybody has there demons. I wish him well.[/QUOTE]I hope we didn't lose him for good. He just finished Part I and Part II of a story and I waiting with bated breath for Part III. I am not sure why he ever looked up to me, he's seems to have gotten more pussy than all of us combined. I sense some braggadocio at times but I don't really sense any bullshit lies. Who knows but his online persona was certainly the most interesting on this board -- fucking spending cash like Hefner.
Come back man and tone it down a bit.