Rants, Raves and Opinions AKA "The Octagon"

[QUOTE=PearishBA;5520594]Imagining me in heels 2 inches longer than your cock. You hound you. Looks like BengalMan may be game though, he'll have nothing to do this postseason as usual. LOL.[/QUOTE]"Heels"? What are you talking about? I didn't mention anything about shoes.

OH! Wait! Did you think I was talking about shoes when I said "4 inch pumps"? I was talking about your stroke length; your 4 inch pump depth when you're giving her / him / whatever / whoever your entire shaft. My mistake. This one is on me. My bad. But keep on doing that 4 inch pump depth. I'm sure she / he / whoever is relieved to have a break. "It's not the size of the boat. It's the motion of the babbling brook. ".

Going away for the weekend with 4 other couples for a getaway out of state.

I've fantasized about fucking every single one of these wives at some point knowing it won't happen.

(They are all milfs) There's an Asian MILF. 2 blonde milfs, and a brunette spinner MILF.

Hopefully a lot of alcohol and little bit of weed allows everyone's guard to come down and my SO falls asleep like she usually does.

Here's to hoping it's warm so Sundresses allow easy access. A man can dream.

LOL.

JB.

[QUOTE=DNut;5521052]"Heels"? What are you talking about? I didn't mention anything about shoes.

OH! Wait! Did you think I was talking about shoes when I said "4 inch pumps"? I was talking about your stroke length; your 4 inch pump depth when you're giving her / him / whatever / whoever your entire shaft. My mistake. This one is on me. My bad. But keep on doing that 4 inch pump depth. I'm sure she / he / whoever is relieved to have a break. "It's not the size of the boat. It's the motion of the babbling brook. ".[/QUOTE]Ooooook. Can we get a cork for the man's fork? I think its time for a nice long walk outside in the fresh air, right this way. And if you got anybody locked in your basement, please let them go even if they won't agree with you. LOL.

[QUOTE=PearishBA;5521520]Ooooook. Can we get a cork for the man's fork? I think its time for a nice long walk outside in the fresh air, right this way. And if you got anybody locked in your basement, please let them go even if they won't agree with you. LOL.[/QUOTE]So says the man pumping and humping in the closet. 4 inch pumps. Not shoes, just to be clear.

P.S- I don't have a basement. Some of us don't have the luxury of having basements in which to keep hostages. I bet you're one of those rich kids who went to a private water boarding school in Russia. That sure would explain the homophobic hysteria in your posts.

Oil (WTI) is down about 10% from recent July peak.

Does Uncle Joe get credit or has Trump been secretly reinstalled as President?

I can hardly wait for the Arizona vote fraud report.

[QUOTE=VinnieKramer;5521830]Oil (WTI) is down about 10% from recent July peak.

Does Uncle Joe get credit or has Trump been secretly reinstalled as President?

I can hardly wait for the Arizona vote fraud report.[/QUOTE]Senile Joe gets all the credit for 13 dead service members at the Kabul Airport. Joe is a piece of sh_t, his entire family are pieces of sh_t including his dead son Beau.

[QUOTE=VinnieKramer;5521830]Oil (WTI) is down about 10% from recent July peak. Does Uncle Joe get credit or has Trump been secretly reinstalled as President? I can hardly wait for the Arizona vote fraud report.[/QUOTE]

Go to this URL. Move your curser over the chart. View the retail gas price comparison Yr to Yr. You can change chart view to 3yr 5yr etc. to compare past to present. Chart is for Ohio.

[URL]https://ycharts.com/indicators/ohio_retail_price_of_gasoline[/URL]

Here are California prices for giggles to compare to OH.

[URL]https://ycharts.com/indicators/ohio_retail_price_of_gasoline[/URL]

[QUOTE=VinnieKramer;5521830]Oil (WTI) is down about 10% from recent July peak.

Does Uncle Joe get credit or has Trump been secretly reinstalled as President?

I can hardly wait for the Arizona vote fraud report.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=VinnieKramer;5521830]Oil (WTI) is down about 10% from recent July peak.

Does Uncle Joe get credit or has Trump been secretly reinstalled as President?

I can hardly wait for the Arizona vote fraud report.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=WanderingAbout;5522309]Go to this URL. Move your curser over the chart. View the retail gas price comparison Yr to Yr. You can change chart view to 3yr 5yr etc. to compare past to present. Chart is for Ohio.
[URL]https://ycharts.com/indicators/ohio_retail_price_of_gasoline[/URL]

Here is California prices for giggles to compare to OH.
[URL]https://ycharts.com/indicators/ohio_retail_price_of_gasoline[/URL][/QUOTE]Before this gets too crazy, I would just like to point out that you two are discussing 2 different things; crude oil and refined gas. Can't really compare the two. It's like comparing wine prices with grape prices.

[QUOTE=YoTooBig;5522302]Senile Joe gets all the credit for 13 dead service members at the Kabul Airport. Joe is a piece of sh_t, his entire family are pieces of sh_t including his dead son Beau.[/QUOTE]I can tell YoTooStupid to actually discuss this type of shit. Go play with your crayons, shit brain.

[QUOTE=DNut;5522319]Before this gets too crazy, I would just like to point out that you two are discussing 2 different things; crude oil and refined gas. Can't really compare the two. It's like comparing wine prices with grape prices.[/QUOTE]Just FYI. Gas price info provided to book end the discussion with what most readers of this forum can relate to which is the end product and what they pay at the pump. The charts at least give you what, when and how much to compare so a informed discussion can be had. Simply saying Oil dropped 10% since July means little. Was it OPEC or WTI / NYMEX oil? 10% down from what price point? Over what period of time?

In this case we may politely disagree. Not trying to toss gasoline on this discussion. There is a correlation between oil and gas prices. Has to be as typically 40% of a barrel of crude is used to make gas. Like oil, grapes from more prestigious vineyards are also more expensive to buy. Even the best-known grapes go for a higher price. So, yes, like oil, the type of grape does impact the price of wine.

Here is a another chart comparing WTI Oil and Gas prices for those who care. Click on 1 Year and you can see what happened to both Oil and Gas prices since election day in 2020.

[URL]https://www.macrotrends.net/2501/crude-oil-vs-gasoline-prices-chart[/URL]

Just providing info so you be the amongst the informed instead of the constant spewing of logical fallacies. Stepping out. Going back to focus on boobies.

[QUOTE=WanderingAbout;5522634]Just FYI. Gas price info provided to book end the discussion with what most readers of this forum can relate to which is the end product and what they pay at the pump. The charts at least give you what, when and how much to compare so a informed discussion can be had. Simply saying Oil dropped 10% since July means little. Was it OPEC or WTI / NYMEX oil? 10% down from what price point? Over what period of time?

In this case we may politely disagree. Not trying to toss gasoline on this discussion. There is a correlation between oil and gas prices. Has to be as typically 40% of a barrel of crude is used to make gas. Like oil, grapes from more prestigious vineyards are also more expensive to buy. Even the best-known grapes go for a higher price. So, yes, like oil, the type of grape does impact the price of wine.

Here is a another chart comparing WTI Oil and Gas prices for those who care. Click on 1 Year and you can see what happened to both Oil and Gas prices since election day in 2020.

[URL]https://www.macrotrends.net/2501/crude-oil-vs-gasoline-prices-chart[/URL]

Just providing info so you be the amongst the informed instead of the constant spewing of logical fallacies. Stepping out. Going back to focus on boobies.[/QUOTE]There is a reason I chose wine-grape as a comparative analogy. I used products that are tied together, but whose prices can fluctuate independently over time. People think wine take years ito age and a cask. But in reality, it only takes a few months. Grape prices affect wine prices only on the production side. The cost to produce the wine ready to be bottled and sold now was set months ago. The same goes for oil and gas prices. Gas FUTURES are sold at rates that differ from the pump because it's more closely tied to oil prices today.

While they are related, they can fluctuate in the short term (such as gas price history looked at only in the last few months). I'm attached a chart I took from the link you provided, and stretched the query to 3 years. Although generally following the same pattern, Generally, in the short term, price fluctuations between oil and gas are such that there will be an inversion. Oil goes down, gas goes up, and vice versa. When looked at from a short sell standpoint, depending on how you bet your margins, it could be extremely profitable, or completely devastating.

As a sidebar, the concept of VAT (value added tax) was proposed and adopted by some countries as a way to negating the adverse short term effects of short term swings but taxing the added value at each stage of the process rather than 1 lump tax at the end of the production cycle.

Bottom line, the President doesn't control gas prices. Laymen will say, "but policies they set affect. " blah-blah-blah. No. It doesn't, and no they don't. Nobel prize winners can tell you that. In fact, one did. Nobel prize winner Richard Thaler explained it in his book "Misbehaving" when he discussed behavioral economics. Unless you yourself have a Nobel prize, I would listen to him.

[QUOTE=RogerOver;5522450]I can tell YoTooStupid to actually discuss this type of shit. Go play with your crayons, shit brain.[/QUOTE]I may be dumb but I'm not Plum Dumb. I could give a rats ass about the price or WTI or Brent crude oil prices unless they get over $100 a barrel like the last time Senile Joe was in office.

Everyone I know with the name of Roger, are all talk and no action. They all tuck and run when the shit hits the fan. So why don't you be a good pussy and do what pussies do best and go suck some dicks of your Socialist Democratic KKK butt buddies.

[QUOTE=EastSideGuy34;5521069]Even though I am a senior on this page, I hadn't made it into the glorified air of double secret senior status to get the two guys who constantly promote Jodi to share her digits with me. When Jodi, however, decided to make a trip south, those guys took it upon themselves to sing her praises often and almost seemed eager to share her contact info. Alas, I finally had a number for Jodi. Within a day, a dream was set and communication with this supposed goddess was pleasant and straightforward.

Around mid-afternoon one weekday, I found myself in an almost notel in the north part of the city. The spot was certainly not as discreet as I would have expected but it worked. Upon entering, I couldn't wait to turn and see the woman that so many raved about and, with that great anticipation, I encountered a seemingly 40-something MILF that was okay, but nothing great. What's more, it was readily apparent she was on something, although I didn't notice any markings. As she spoke to me, the speech was slurred and the eyes were often shut. I wondered if I was seeing the right girl. Just then, she introduced herself as Jodi, before fumbling onto the bed to grab her phone to put on some music of my choosing.

Even with the situation not that ideal, I did see why some guys like her. Overall, she seems to enjoy the work and is really down for whatever. Even with the impairment, she delivered but I was glad to leave when it was over. I may give it another shot but there's no real urgency to repeat.

Happy to share digits with any senior on this site.[/QUOTE]First, thanks for an honest review. I'm sure a bunch of her white knights don't like seeing this type of reality hits on their unicorn. You're off to a great start.

[QUOTE=NotYourAverage;5521481]Thank you Sir for your review. I don't know what her ticket price is, but you just saved me some money. I was interested after the "glowing" endorsements, but not so much now.[/QUOTE]See? I'm not the only person that appreciates it.

[QUOTE=VolleyGuy;5522824]Certain unwritten rules even for Seniors. Do you have her permission to give our her number. She's UTR.[/QUOTE]And just ignore this guy. He's clearly her pimp, handler or thinks he is. He wants to be the one to share her number. There's no "unwritten" rules about his little petunia. She's all over the fucking Dayton boards and has even had an ad or two. She's about as UTR as any other drugged out or drunk hooker running around out there. Share her number with anyone you want.

[QUOTE=RogerOver;5523024]First, thanks for an honest review. I'm sure a bunch of her white knights don't like seeing this type of reality hits on their unicorn. You're off to a great start.

See? I'm not the only person that appreciates it.

And just ignore this guy. He's clearly her pimp, handler or thinks he is. He wants to be the one to share her number. There's no "unwritten" rules about his little petunia. She's all over the fucking Dayton boards and has even had an ad or two. She's about as UTR as any other drugged out or drunk hooker running around out there. Share her number with anyone you want.[/QUOTE]Personally, I think anyone who controls the access to a provider should have their USSG accounts changed to one of an advertiser, with all the rules, benefits, and restrictions that come with that. In essence and for all practical purposes, they're the provider's pimp. If they're not getting paid, that makes them a stupid pimp, but their pimp nonetheless. Like my second favorite bumper sticker says, "Gas, grass, or ass, no one rides for free".

But that's not for me to decide. That's the call of the Administrators. Because as I have no plans on seeing Jodi, what she and her pimps / gate keepers / white knights do has zero bearing on me.

[QUOTE=YoTooBig;5522964]I may be dumb but I'm not Plum Dumb. I could give a rats ass about the price or WTI or Brent crude oil prices unless they get over $100 a barrel like the last time Senile Joe was in office.

Everyone I know with the name of Roger, are all talk and no action. They all tuck and run when the shit hits the fan. So why don't you be a good pussy and do what pussies do best and go suck some dicks of your Socialist Democratic KKK butt buddies.[/QUOTE]You forgot to mention their famous nickname "Roger the Doger." I'm sure he's heard that more then once.

Understand where you are coming from. Agreed. Well said.

[QUOTE=DNut;5522674]There is a reason I chose wine-grape as a comparative analogy. I used products that are tied together, but whose prices can fluctuate independently over time. People think wine take years ito age and a cask. But in reality, it only takes a few months. Grape prices affect wine prices only on the production side. The cost to produce the wine ready to be bottled and sold now was set months ago. The same goes for oil and gas prices. Gas FUTURES are sold at rates that differ from the pump because it's more closely tied to oil prices today.

While they are related, they can fluctuate in the short term (such as gas price history looked at only in the last few months). I'm attached a chart I took from the link you provided, and stretched the query to 3 years. Although generally following the same pattern, Generally, in the short term, price fluctuations between oil and gas are such that there will be an inversion. Oil goes down, gas goes up, and vice versa. When looked at from a short sell standpoint, depending on how you bet your margins, it could be extremely profitable, or completely devastating.

As a sidebar, the concept of VAT (value added tax) was proposed and adopted by some countries as a way to negating the adverse short term effects of short term swings but taxing the added value at each stage of the process rather than 1 lump tax at the end of the production cycle.

Bottom line, the President doesn't control gas prices. Laymen will say, "but policies they set affect. " blah-blah-blah. No. It doesn't, and no they don't. Nobel prize winners can tell you that. In fact, one did. Nobel prize winner Richard Thaler explained it in his book "Misbehaving" when he discussed behavioral economics. Unless you yourself have a Nobel prize, I would listen to him.[/QUOTE]

For those that haven't been around the petroleum industry on a regular basis, may not know that gasoline is a by-product of the refinery process. Someone earlier stated that gasoline is 40% of a barrel of crude oil. That seems high to me. There are so many other products that are pulled out of 30 gallon barrel of crude oil before the gas vaporizes / boils out. I will have to see if I can find the information I was given 35 years ago when I worked in that industry. I was amazed at all of the things that are pulled out of crude oil when I worked in that area! Diesel, heating oil and jet fuel are the first things to come out in refining BTW.

[QUOTE=DNut;5523115]Personally, I think anyone who controls the access to a provider should have their USSG accounts changed to one of an advertiser, with all the rules, benefits, and restrictions that come with that. In essence and for all practical purposes, they're the provider's pimp. If they're not getting paid, that makes them a stupid pimp, but their pimp nonetheless. Like my second favorite bumper sticker says, "Gas, grass, or ass, no one rides for free".

But that's not for me to decide. That's the call of the Administrators. Because as I have no plans on seeing Jodi, what she and her pimps / gate keepers / white knights do has zero bearing on me.[/QUOTE]That slogan used to be on a T-shirt too with a dude on his motorcycle. I remember a friend in high school who wore it in gym class one day, and he was sent to the office and made to change shirts. I am sure you can still order one as that saying is priceless! Maybe the white knights need the old school shirt with the pimp dressed in his suit and hat, swinging his watch or whatever it was (those brain cells are long gone! LOL) and the caption "Pimpin Ain't Easy" on it. I am sure some of you remember.

Thanks for the trip back in time D Nut!

[QUOTE=YoTooBig;5522302]Senile Joe gets all the credit for 13 dead service members at the Kabul Airport. Joe is a piece of sh_t, his entire family are pieces of sh_t including his dead son Beau.[/QUOTE]YoToo should be ashamed of yourself.

Go back in your cave.

What's your favorite bumper sticker?

[QUOTE=DNut;5523115]Personally, I think anyone who controls the access to a provider should have their USSG accounts changed to one of an advertiser, with all the rules, benefits, and restrictions that come with that. In essence and for all practical purposes, they're the provider's pimp. If they're not getting paid, that makes them a stupid pimp, but their pimp nonetheless. Like my second favorite bumper sticker says, "Gas, grass, or ass, no one rides for free".

But that's not for me to decide. That's the call of the Administrators. Because as I have no plans on seeing Jodi, what she and her pimps / gate keepers / white knights do has zero bearing on me.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=JLZ61;5523486]What's your favorite bumper sticker?[/QUOTE]This "COEXIST" design. It transmits the message using both word and iconography, in the most efficient way.

I tried to see her in the notel in and Cincy but the manager knocked on the door as soon as I entered. He did me a favor. She was definitely on something and she was not worth the price she was asking. I could pick up something that trashed in any whole in the wall bar. I would have needed to close my eyes and imagine something else just get off.

[QUOTE=RogerOver;5523024]First, thanks for an honest review. I'm sure a bunch of her white knights don't like seeing this type of reality hits on their unicorn. You're off to a great start.

See? I'm not the only person that appreciates it.

And just ignore this guy. He's clearly her pimp, handler or thinks he is. He wants to be the one to share her number. There's no "unwritten" rules about his little petunia. She's all over the fucking Dayton boards and has even had an ad or two. She's about as UTR as any other drugged out or drunk hooker running around out there. Share her number with anyone you want.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Dasap;5523597]I tried to see her in the notel in and Cincy but the manager knocked on the door as soon as I entered. He did me a favor. She was definitely on something and she was not worth the price she was asking. I could pick up something that trashed in any whole in the wall bar. I would have needed to close my eyes and imagine something else just get off.[/QUOTE]HA! Was the manager there for his payment, or tired of watching the parade of dudes showing up for this "low-volume UTR?

[QUOTE=RogerOver;5523620]HA! Was the manager there for his payment, or tired of watching the parade of dudes showing up for this "low-volume UTR?[/QUOTE]Was bitching about the endless traffic of her cousins, step brothers and uncles that were visiting.

[QUOTE=BengalMan;5523450]YoToo should be ashamed of yourself.

Go back in your cave.[/QUOTE]Being called pathetic by a Rino like you I consider a badge of honor. Don't be afraid to stand up to the big bad Socialist Democratic KKK bastards. They always hate when someone takes their inventory and they know it's true.

Thanks, I appreciate the feedback. Believe it or not, I wasn't trying to speak ill of Jodi or her supporters. I simply shared my experience and spoke to how that differed from the existing narrative. I truly hope, though, that those that do go and see her have a great time.

[QUOTE=RogerOver;5523024]First, thanks for an honest review. I'm sure a bunch of her white knights don't like seeing this type of reality hits on their unicorn. You're off to a great start.

See? I'm not the only person that appreciates it.

And just ignore this guy. He's clearly her pimp, handler or thinks he is. He wants to be the one to share her number. There's no "unwritten" rules about his little petunia. She's all over the fucking Dayton boards and has even had an ad or two. She's about as UTR as any other drugged out or drunk hooker running around out there. Share her number with anyone you want.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=YoTooBig;5523995]Being called pathetic by a Rino like you I consider a badge of honor. Don't be afraid to stand up to the big bad Socialist Democratic KKK bastards. They always hate when someone takes their inventory and they know it's true.[/QUOTE]The KKK endorses Republicans. It's not a secret. Everyone knows it. If you were to try to argue and debate this point, you'll just confirm what everyone thinks of you. In your case, it's best to adhere to that old saying, "It's better to keep your mouth shut and people think you're dumb, that to open your mouth and confirm it.

(I'm sure you're going to argue that the KKK was founded by Democrats. Although true, since the "big switch" in the 1920's and 1930's, the Klan has supported the GOP pretty consistently since then.).

Love that one as well. It's wicked cool. My kids are 7 and 10 and I fully intend to walk them through this when the time comes.

[QUOTE=DNut;5523496]This "COEXIST" design. It transmits the message using both word and iconography, in the most efficient way.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=DNut;5522674]There is a reason I chose wine-grape as a comparative analogy. I used products that are tied together, but whose prices can fluctuate independently over time. People think wine take years ito age and a cask. But in reality, it only takes a few months. Grape prices affect wine prices only on the production side. The cost to produce the wine ready to be bottled and sold now was set months ago. The same goes for oil and gas prices. Gas FUTURES are sold at rates that differ from the pump because it's more closely tied to oil prices today.

While they are related, they can fluctuate in the short term (such as gas price history looked at only in the last few months). I'm attached a chart I took from the link you provided, and stretched the query to 3 years. Although generally following the same pattern, Generally, in the short term, price fluctuations between oil and gas are such that there will be an inversion. Oil goes down, gas goes up, and vice versa. When looked at from a short sell standpoint, depending on how you bet your margins, it could be extremely profitable, or completely devastating.

As a sidebar, the concept of VAT (value added tax) was proposed and adopted by some countries as a way to negating the adverse short term effects of short term swings but taxing the added value at each stage of the process rather than 1 lump tax at the end of the production cycle.

Bottom line, the President doesn't control gas prices. Laymen will say, "but policies they set affect. " blah-blah-blah. No. It doesn't, and no they don't. Nobel prize winners can tell you that. In fact, one did. Nobel prize winner Richard Thaler explained it in his book "Misbehaving" when he discussed behavioral economics. Unless you yourself have a Nobel prize, I would listen to him.[/QUOTE]The policies of a president do not have a direct impact, but they can influence the future prices. Commodities trades use policy shifts as part of the determination of what & how much to pay for futures. It can happen on Pork, Beef, Oil, Precious Metals, & a long list of other items. So Biden cancels the pipeline. A couple of commodity brokers overreact & buy heavy on futures for gas. Others don't want to be left out so they do the same. That creates an artificial price increase. While the President did not dictate an increase, his change in policy influenced others who have a more direct link to the prices. Lack of economics being taught in our schools & the MSM skipping significant facts in the story influence many to believe that there is a direct link between the two.

[QUOTE=DNut;5524159]The KKK endorses Republicans. It's not a secret. Everyone knows it. If you were to try to argue and debate this point, you'll just confirm what everyone thinks of you. In your case, it's best to adhere to that old saying, "It's better to keep your mouth shut and people think you're dumb, that to open your mouth and confirm it.

(I'm sure you're going to argue that the KKK was founded by Democrats. Although true, since the "big switch" in the 1920's and 1930's, the Klan has supported the GOP pretty consistently since then.).[/QUOTE]Since you are a Socialist Democrat KKK member yourself Thanks for proving my point. You hate when someone points out your short comings. Look at all the major cities ran and controlled by Socialist Democratic KKK party. Their policies kill more black men every day then the KKK of old could kill on their best day. One of your KKK heroes LBJ New Deal in 1964 was their master plan, and so far it's working just as planned. Sorry if the truth hurts but deal with it cup cake. Remember Step 1 omitting you have problem is the only way to get better.

[QUOTE=WoodFordR69;5524570]The policies of a president do not have a direct impact, but they can influence the future prices. Commodities trades use policy shifts as part of the determination of what & how much to pay for futures. It can happen on Pork, Beef, Oil, Precious Metals, & a long list of other items. So Biden cancels the pipeline. A couple of commodity brokers overreact & buy heavy on futures for gas. Others don't want to be left out so they do the same. That creates an artificial price increase. While the President did not dictate an increase, his change in policy influenced others who have a more direct link to the prices. Lack of economics being taught in our schools & the MSM skipping significant facts in the story influence many to believe that there is a direct link between the two.[/QUOTE]The XL pipeline was still under construction so it's cancelation did not affect production, supply, or demand. You can try to claim it coulda-woulda-shoulda affected gas futures, but it didn't. It's completion was so tenuous that I doubt any real broker was betting their mutual funds on it. When Joe Biden won the election in early November, it's fate past January 20 was all but sealed (sealed the pipe, get it?

(I just knew someone was going to try using that policy argument. I called it. Maybe I should try my hand at futures. I seem to have a knack at predicting it.).

[QUOTE=WoodFordR69;5524570]The policies of a president do not have a direct impact, but they can influence the future prices. Commodities trades use policy shifts as part of the determination of what & how much to pay for futures. It can happen on Pork, Beef, Oil, Precious Metals, & a long list of other items. So Biden cancels the pipeline. A couple of commodity brokers overreact & buy heavy on futures for gas. Others don't want to be left out so they do the same. That creates an artificial price increase. While the President did not dictate an increase, his change in policy influenced others who have a more direct link to the prices. Lack of economics being taught in our schools & the MSM skipping significant facts in the story influence many to believe that there is a direct link between the two.[/QUOTE]Your explanation is right on! IMO, however, it could be argued that Biden's actions ARE a direct link since his actions caused the chain reactions that lead to the eventual price increase. It could also be argued that the commodity brokers did not "overreact", as you state, because Biden's actions on the pipeline signaled other actions that might be taken--I. E. , halting all drilling on public lands, his comments and desire for the "green new deal", etc. That's the kind of stuff that scares the hell out of commodity brokers.

[QUOTE=YoTooBig;5524614]Since you are a Socialist Democrat KKK member yourself Thanks for proving my point. You hate when someone points out your short comings. Look at all the major cities ran and controlled by Socialist Democratic KKK party. Their policies kill more black men every day then the KKK of old could kill on their best day. One of your KKK heroes LBJ New Deal in 1964 was their master plan, and so far it's working just as planned. Sorry if the truth hurts but deal with it cup cake. Remember Step 1 omitting you have problem is the only way to get better.[/QUOTE]Nah. Your hardon for the GOP is evident. But you should take your own advice. Admit your problem. The Klan loves the GOP. The Klan loves Trump. The Klan loves the wall. What the GOP loves is pretty much the same things the Klan loves. Embrace your truth. Oh, and Neo Nazis are in the GOP's corner too.

[URL]https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-trump-kkk/ku-klux-klan-newspaper-declares-support-for-trump-idUSKBN12X2IG[/URL]

[QUOTE=DNut;5524701]The XL pipeline was still under construction so it's cancelation did not affect production, supply, or demand. You can try to claim it coulda-woulda-shoulda affected gas futures, but it didn't. It's completion was so tenuous that I doubt any real broker was betting their mutual funds on it. When Joe Biden won the election in early November, it's fate past January 20 was all but sealed (sealed the pipe, get it?

(I just knew someone was going to try using that policy argument. I called it. Maybe I should try my hand at futures. I seem to have a knack at predicting it.).[/QUOTE]I fully realize we are splitting hairs here. Agree the pipeline was under construction. It's anticipated value helped depress future markets. Of course OPEC productions has an even larger impact on those futures.

Maybe my point on policy was not clear enough. I certainly think presidential policies have a link to market pricing. Trump's tariff increases had a rather direct impact on the imported goods that were now more expensive until domestic production could catch up to demand. In other cases like the pipeline, there is a link, a correlation, but not a causation. We could both probably accurately predict in many cases what will happen if the government makes a significant policy / law. I do it in the stock market every day. Policies are just one of the factors that impact the market.

[QUOTE=Kenal1;5524716]Your explanation is right on! IMO, however, it could be argued that Biden's actions ARE a direct link since his actions caused the chain reactions that lead to the eventual price increase. It could also be argued that the commodity brokers did not "overreact", as you state, because Biden's actions on the pipeline signaled other actions that might be taken--I. E. , halting all drilling on public lands, his comments and desire for the "green new deal", etc. That's the kind of stuff that scares the hell out of commodity brokers.[/QUOTE]On balance over the last few years, the US imports crude and exports refined products. Keystone was designed to take crude and bring it south to the refineries on the coast where it can be refined into fuels FOR EXPORT. For us mongers in the midwest, that would have the effect of INCREASING the price of our wasted 45 minute drives to the Ghost Notel.

Gas has gone up because we are driving again. I know we like to see gas at $1. 99, but when that happens, it means the economy has gone to crap.

P.S. I doubt the commodity brokers are scared of the green new deal. In fact, I think they salivate over the prospect.

[QUOTE=WoodFordR69;5524820]We could both probably accurately predict in many cases what will happen if the government makes a significant policy / law. I do it in the stock market every day.[/QUOTE]Since the perpetual unemployment benefits are cut off this week, can you give me 2 hot tips on stocks that will benefit? I need to replenish my monger fund.

[QUOTE=DNut;5524796]Nah. Your hardon for the GOP is evident. But you should take your own advice. Admit your problem. The Klan loves the GOP. The Klan loves Trump. The Klan loves the wall. What the GOP loves is pretty much the same things the Klan loves. Embrace your truth. Oh, and Neo Nazis are in the GOP's corner too.

[URL]https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-trump-kkk/ku-klux-klan-newspaper-declares-support-for-trump-idUSKBN12X2IG[/URL][/QUOTE]Believe and read whatever floats your boat. It will not be long before the Socialist Democratic KKK party turns us into a Shit hole country and we can all live on the Government Plantation.

[QUOTE=Hairy2;5524841]Since the perpetual unemployment benefits are cut off this week, can you give me 2 hot tips on stocks that will benefit? I need to replenish my monger fund.[/QUOTE]I'm betting on little to no change. Many of the folks sitting at home getting the extra benefit have jobs waiting for them that more than pay for the unemployment they are collecting. There may be a small dip if enough folks panic that that lack of free money will equate to less being spent in the economy. I bet enough walk back into retail / foodservice jobs & we keep the economy rolling.

If you want to look at a stock that is trading well below the expected value, check out KALA. They are FDA approved for a non-steroidal dry eye disease treatment. There are two things we are waiting on for the stock to take off: winter & BCBS. Once we see more cases of dry eye in winter, prescriptions should pick up. Also, NCNS is the only major insurer not to approve this as the primary drug to treat the disease. It's trading under $3. 50 today. Experts expect it to hit between $10 & $40, averaging around $21.

I have been following the debate, and while I happen to be a semi-expert on this topic, I will not give credentials on this site, too many inferences can be made, too many dots connected. I will just point out that president Biden just today during his address re: the hurricane, pointed out how on the ball he is because he had taken actions and instructed his people to do certain things that would lower the gas prices. Hopefully Bill Clinton will pass this info on to him, we know he is a monger.

NS.

Regardless if you're discussing Gad prices, Covid Cases and the lack of border security, the pathetic joke infrastructure bills. Letting 20 years in Afghanistan be for nothing. If you voted for Biden. And you are still making excuses because you just hated Trump so bad for putting Americans first. You are the problem. You are a moron. There is no discussion about it in any sense.