Strip Club Reports

[QUOTE=Daka1]If you had read this thread, you would know the answer to your question.

D[/QUOTE]Thanks for the help pal.

I was hoping to avoid having to read through the 1, 300+ posts here to find a simple answer. I had gone through the past 10 pages of reports before posting my question. Would it have been any more work for you just to pass along what you know than it was to post your sarcastic reply?

[QUOTE=Tucson 2008]Thanks for the help pal.

I was hoping to avoid having to read through the 1, 300+ posts here to find a simple answer. I had gone through the past 10 pages of reports before posting my question. Would it have been any more work for you just to pass along what you know than it was to post your sarcastic reply?[/QUOTE]

Sarcasm is just one more service we offer here at USG! No additional $$ required.

It's true what they say - the night shift is waaaay different then the day shift. I managed to get I wanted regardless...although it was a little more difficult than usual.

BTW I payed $$$$$$$$ (more sarcasm)

Long time reader, first time poster.

Went to CS for the first time recently, armed with Sexhobbyist's tips and tricks. My first impression was the place looked like a dump from the outside. I can't believe it is in a strip mall. My opinion changed when I got inside. The club is pretty nice. As far as the ladies, the talent at the club was just ok. I was there around 4 in the afternoon so I didn't really expect the top girls to be there. I ordered a couple drinks and found a seat near the stage. I was more interested at that point in drinking and spotting talent. A dancer named Amy (is this the same Amy who posts on this board? ) came by and sat in my lap. She immediately offered to go to the VIP room, which I declined. I got a top notch lapdance from her instead and told her that I would find her later. She was really really nice but not what I was looking for that night. Give me latinas!

One thing I noticed at the club was the number of girls working. I can't remember the last time I was at a club with that many girls per customer. While I was working on my second drink, I noticed an attractive black girl giving a guy a lapdance next to me. Now normally black girls aren't my thing, but I guess I had a touch of jungle fever that night. She was cute, tall, with fake C's, and braces. I really wish I could remember her name. Anyway, she came over and asked if I wanted a lapdance and I told her maybe later, that I was just interested in chilling and having a few drinks. She asked if she could join me, I said yes, and she ordered a couple STRONG drinks for herself. We drank for 20 minutes or so, and she finished both her drinks and ordered two more. In talking with her she revealed she was half black and half asian. Maybe her Tiger Woods thing was what attracted me? She definitely had a tight asian booty. She asked if I wanted a dance still, and I said sure. She offered to go to the VIP and I said HELL YES.

Once in the VIP she QUICKLY finished her third and fourth drinks. She was obviously getting a little tipsy, which was awesome for me. Who doesn't want a girl who gets drunk on her own?

Needless to say, my experience with her in the VIP room was wonderful and it was more than I could have hoped for. We both enjoyed our time togeather. While I was in the VIP, I noticed that I was clearly not the only one enjoying himself. Tucson is awesome!

Afterward, she asked me for my number and wanted to see me again. I am not a good looking guy by any means, but sex hobbyist is 100% right. Money, a big one (though I am sure mine pales in comparison to SH), and politeness can get you far with the dancers. I am not interested in collecting my own Sexhobbyist-style pride of female lionesses so I didn't give her my number. If I was, this lady was a good start for building a cadre of potential booty calls. After the great time, I tipped her and left.

That was my first experience at CS, and it will not be my last. I don't have the bucks to partake in the hobby more than once or twice a month but I will be around. I want to thank the entire forum for their advice, it made my first experience a memorable one. Hope to see you guys out there. Keep it safe mongers!

P.S. Could someone answer this question: with the way the economy is, what is a good tip?

[QUOTE=Jjsuperman]Long time reader, first time poster.

P.S. Could someone answer this question: with the way the economy is, what is a good tip?[/QUOTE]A good tip? The Pittsburg Steelers and the Dallas Cowboys are looking good this year. You might want to put some money on one of those two.

Just kidding. Actually, SH directed me to a great post he has on his website that breaks down the in's and out's of the strip club scene. You'll find your answer to this question, and many other's there. If you have trouble finding it, message me and I'll let you know where to look.

Just transferred here a couple weeks ago. Finally got some time to get a beer and decided on Raider's since it was closest. Metal detector wand? That's a new one! It was 3 in the afternoon! Obviously the gruff doorman didn't go to charm school to learn how to treat the tourists. Anyway I walked in and there was a dancer relaxing at a table near the door practically fingering herself. Took a seat near the small stage and about 30 seconds after my beer arrived, Ms. Fingerlickingood comes over and parks her butt in the chair next to me. I totally forgot her name. She started right away with offers to go to the VIP or CR. Were it not for the smokers breath (Tic Tac chica!) I might have considered it. Got one table dance and she tried the upsell yet again. Again I declined and she finally left. I'll have to see if CS is a little less pushy.

Mr. Pilot;

My best experience at Raiders is dancing with the waitresses. I have only had one dancer there in the last two years.

Unlike Merlin, I've had considerable success at Raider's. The best success has come outside the club with many of the dancers. There's surveillance in the Champagne Room now so many are hesitant to go too far at the club. I've had about 7 of the Raider's dancers outside the club including a few at my house for an "adult" pool party. I've written about the Raider's dancers on my website. All in all, Raider's is a mixed bag. It's a club with multiple personalities so it's going to be hit or miss.
Sexhobbyist

[QUOTE=Blklatpilot]Just transferred here a couple weeks ago. Finally got some time to get a beer and decided on Raider's since it was closest. Metal detector wand? That's a new one! It was 3 in the afternoon! Obviously the gruff doorman didn't go to charm school to learn how to treat the tourists. Anyway I walked in and there was a dancer relaxing at a table near the door practically fingering herself. Took a seat near the small stage and about 30 seconds after my beer arrived, Ms. Fingerlickingood comes over and parks her butt in the chair next to me. I totally forgot her name. She started right away with offers to go to the VIP or CR. Were it not for the smokers breath (Tic Tac chica!) I might have considered it. Got one table dance and she tried the upsell yet again. Again I declined and she finally left. I'll have to see if CS is a little less pushy.[/QUOTE]

Got to see our own Juicy Amie on Monday - looking sultry as always. Great dances are her specialty. Also got to spend time with another lovey one that Amie set me up with - thanks Amie! I always like the secret ones you have for me.
Danni looked great as always. Her new rack was not an improvement in my opinion (there was nothing wrong with them before) but it seems to make her happy so that's probably a good thing. Yes, I'm still smitten with her. I don't know what it is about that crazy girl. But, for safety sake, we are platonic and have been for months. Still, the damn girl remains my ATF. I guess I will continue to drown myself in beer, casnio Texas Hold-'em, and whatever lovely lady Amie introduces me to.

Kasta, It was good to see you in there enjoying yourself on Monday. A surprise to see you and SH there in the same day no less! Amie is a dream come true. That special lovely lady you got on Monday has been on my radar screen for a LONG time! You lucky devil! I've talked to her about joining me in VIP but we've never done it. I hope to some day soon, though!

For myself, Monday and Tuesday both brought excellent experiences in CS.

K4me

[QUOTE=Kastagir98]Got to see our own Juicy Amie on Monday - looking sultry as always. Great dances are her specialty. Also got to spend time with another lovey one that Amie set me up with - thanks Amie! I always like the secret ones you have for me.
Danni looked great as always. Her new rack was not an improvement in my opinion (there was nothing wrong with them before) but it seems to make her happy so that's probably a good thing. Yes, I'm still smitten with her. I don't know what it is about that crazy girl. But, for safety sake, we are platonic and have been for months. Still, the damn girl remains my ATF. I guess I will continue to drown myself in beer, casnio Texas Hold-'em, and whatever lovely lady Amie introduces me to.[/QUOTE]

I am sorry but I did not intentionally mean to violate rules way back on 2-15-08 about my experiences at CS. Had not read my private messages until today and several had contacted me regarding my bad posting. I apologize to the girl(s), club and forum. Will try not to make this mistake again. Fortunately, administrator I noticed deleted the name of the dancer.

This should be a warning to other newby posters on to post discretely.

Thanks to all the private messages sent admonishing me.

On the heels of glee's contrition:
You never expose a dancer to prosecution, firing, or worse by naming her as a fs provider in your post. That information is fine for PMs with trusted members, but, geez...use some discretion. By naming a dancer as a fs provider, you're giving law enforcement a name to pursue and the club where she works.

In your posts, use the rule of 1:3.

Give the name of the dancer but not the club or details.
Give the club but not the name of the dancer or details.
Give the details but not the name of the club or dancer.
This keeps everyone safe.
Save the intimate details for PMs.

Or, better yet, get your own website. ;-P
Sexhobbyist

Good to see you, too. Long time since we ran into each other. I've been making the rounds to several clubs and geometrically expanded my fs universe.

I missed Kasta even though we were both at CS. Always good to see Amie. I think James caught me in action in the VIP. I know he was watching.

My best CS experience in a long time was Wednesday night. I wrote about it elsewhere.

Play safe out there.

BTW, Nogales is unsafe. Read the forum.
Sexhobbyist

[QUOTE=Kirstyforme]Kasta, It was good to see you in there enjoying yourself on Monday. A surprise to see you and SH there in the same day no less! Amie is a dream come true. That special lovely lady you got on Monday has been on my radar screen for a LONG time! You lucky devil! I've talked to her about joining me in VIP but we've never done it. I hope to some day soon, though!

For myself, Monday and Tuesday both brought excellent experiences in CS.

K4me[/QUOTE]

Going to CS on Tue early. Thinking about Tens as well (but have not been since the 90s). Any regulars want to PM me with recommendations?

PM me for details on my last visit to CS as I don't want to spell out the details here

SH - if you ever see me, feel free to say hi. For the rest, I am usually busy so at least wait till I'm out at the smoking lounge. :)

Loved my afternoon today at my fav club and even got to see our lovely Amie dance today. I am a little worn out, but good. Maybe a lot worn out and really good - fantastic VIP time. Decided to hit the casino to blow off some more steam after working today and lost my ass. At least I wasn't locked in the office.

I have not yet been to Tens, but I hear it can be strong. Best of luck there.

So after my triumphant debut I returned to CS. Unfortunately, this visit was a bit of a disappointment. There were quite a few hot ladies but it seemed like nothing was happening. I was able to catch the attention of a tall gorgeous blonde in a French maid outfit but after two lap dances there was no invite to the VIP. I eventually ended up in the VIP after suggesting it to a cute Hispanic girl and was very disappointed. It was a rough day. I will be back.

I am probably not the first person to broach this topic but I feel I have something to say. I know that a lot of dancers frequent these posts and I don't want to offend the wonderful providers of Tucson but the smoking thing is a little crazy at CS. About 2/3 of the girls who offer me a dance are reeking of cigarettes. I no longer smoke and since I quit I cannot stand the smell. I don't think I am alone in having a problem with the smell. So I end up turning down lap dances right and left, not because of the wonderful ladies, but because they reek of cigarettes. Please, please, please ladies. Do what I did when I had to hide that I used to smoke. Make sure and gum it (not mints they don't work as well) and wash your hands. The worst parts of the smell linger around the hand that held the cigarette. So if you go out in the lounge to smoke just make sure to freshen yourself before you get back to work. I really do not like to turn down beautiful women simply because I can't deal with the smoke smell anymore. If you just take a couple steps to clean up I think you will do much better with the non-smoker crowd.

[QUOTE=Jjsuperman]So after my triumphant debut I returned to CS. Unfortunately, this visit was a bit of a disappointment. There were quite a few hot ladies but it seemed like nothing was happening. I was able to catch the attention of a tall gorgeous blonde in a French maid outfit but after two lap dances there was no invite to the VIP. I eventually ended up in the VIP after suggesting it to a cute Hispanic girl and was very disappointed. It was a rough day. I will be back.

I am probably not the first person to broach this topic but I feel I have something to say. I know that a lot of dancers frequent these posts and I don't want to offend the wonderful providers of Tucson but the smoking thing is a little crazy at CS. About 2/3 of the girls who offer me a dance are reeking of cigarettes. I no longer smoke and since I quit I cannot stand the smell. I don't think I am alone in having a problem with the smell. So I end up turning down lap dances right and left, not because of the wonderful ladies, but because they reek of cigarettes. Please, please, please ladies. Do what I did when I had to hide that I used to smoke. Make sure and gum it (not mints they don't work as well) and wash your hands. The worst parts of the smell linger around the hand that held the cigarette. So if you go out in the lounge to smoke just make sure to freshen yourself before you get back to work. I really do not like to turn down beautiful women simply because I can't deal with the smoke smell anymore. If you just take a couple steps to clean up I think you will do much better with the non-smoker crowd.[/QUOTE]

We'll, I'm on the opposite end there. I feel really bad if a lady dances for me and doesn't smoke but I reek of it. Gum only covers so much. I actually go to the smoke lounge, find the ones that do and actually get VIP dance prospects from that. We both clean up, chew some 5 gum, and even wash it away with a few drinks but lets face it - it is going to linger. Her smokiness actually makes me more comfortable.
I know it's my money and if she doesn't like it, don't dance for me, but if she is more comfortable and you are more so, then doesn't it make for a much more fun time for all? No reason to purposely smell bad, but I guess I'll take the smokies and you can have the rest, dude.

I will be heading to a few clubs today and I will provide a few of my fictional stories that I hope you all like,,

Went to CS last night and had a great time with Samantha. What an incredible ass.

[QUOTE=Netveg1]Went to CS last night and had a great time with Samantha. What an incredible ass.[/QUOTE]I've heard that the CS VIP room has really been more liberal lately in what's allowed. A birdy told me.

[QUOTE=Desertchief]I've heard that the CS VIP room has really been more liberal lately in what's allowed. A birdy told me.[/QUOTE]

You've got to be kidding, right? CS VIP room? MORE liberal? WTF?
SH

[QUOTE=Netveg1]Went to CS last night and had a great time with Samantha. What an incredible ass.[/QUOTE]Cs by night is sub-standard. Look like there was an incident in the backroom. Bouncer ended up on the ground after trying to tear apart the two dancers.

[QUOTE=Stefan Trn]Cs by night is sub-standard. Look like there was an incident in the backroom. Bouncer ended up on the ground after trying to tear apart the two dancers.[/QUOTE]


Clearly they were fighting over sexhobbyist's dick.

[QUOTE=Sexhobbyist]You've got to be kidding, right? CS VIP room? MORE liberal? WTF?
SH[/QUOTE]
More liberal? Maybe they are taxing us more and giving the money to the stripper unions? A little poli sci humor for ya.

I'm from the East coast thanks for the info on this forum, I stopped my the Candy store on Monday night had a few dances from some hot and wild ladies, the floor dances went beyond what Im used to, the clubs in NC charge $10 to 20 for very little contact. I tried the VIP room, but no joy, but great dance, I think either I picked the wrong one or it was to packed.

I stopped back on Tuesday around 2pm, the 1st dancer that came to me jumped in my lap and started grinding all over me, when asked if I want to go in the VIP I jumped at it, went in and sat down, she came out and asked if I wanted a dance or more, well I jumped at the more, Touch down. I had a great time with this dark haired doll baby.

[QUOTE=Kastagir98]More liberal? Maybe they are taxing us more and giving the money to the stripper unions? A little poli sci humor for ya. [/QUOTE]If you are gonna make poli jokes, how'd you miss Bill Clinton?

And yes, that's what I meant by liberal. Bill Clinton would find the CS VIP up to his standards. And in saying that, I am not referring any way to the size of the girls asses.

See, I can joke too.

As some of you know I kick it at CS. I have been there long enough to here a lot of the girls talk about the things that they don't like and the things they like.

The biggest complaint they have is smelly breath. Stop at the store and buy a pack of gum.

Smelly bodies are next in line. This one seems like it could be harder since a lot of guys are coming from work but it's not so hard. If your planning a trip to VIP on your way to the club there is a cheep hotel right down the street. DM motel, stop off and take a shower it's only $25.00 and if your willing to spend the money for a trip to VIP then make it a better trip for yourself by being clean.

Clean cloths. You can buy a pair of shorts and a tee shirt at Walgreens across the street for about $15.00

Stubble, Girls don't like to feel that on their bodies so if you want them up close then shave before your trip to the club.

Last but not least when your on your way to the VIP stop off at the rest room and wash your hands the girls will like it if you do.

These are some of the things I hear from the girls.

This one comes from me. Some guys complain about condoms, Would you really want extra fun from a girl who does not use them? If a girl does not use them she is not getting near my dick you never know where her mouth has been without one.
Play safe guys I know a lot of you are married do you really want to take something home from the club?

Hey everyone,

First time posting. Been reading and soaking it in for awhile. I don't have many chances to get out there, but I was at CS on Tuesday and had an absolutely amazing time with Aimee. Wow. What everyone has been saying about her is, frankly, a serious understatement. While it may be true that she 'plays by the rules, ' in a way she gives more of herself than many of the other dancers--she's intimate, sensual, I didn't feel like she was putting up a wall but was connecting with me. For me that's a major turn on. It really turns me off when dancers just start bouncing and grinding away like the energizer bunny. I like it when they take things slow, look me in the eye, let me know (or at least let me think) that *this* moment is special. She is also just really sweet. And did I mention gorgeous?

Also had a great time with Tie (don't know how it's spelled, maybe Thai, but she's white). She is a very sweet, cute, tiny little firecracker. Also plays by the rules, but in a most delicious way! Great personality. Lots of fun. I think she was working nights but has started to work more during the day.

Thanks to all of you for turning me on to the scene here and sharing all your helpful hints.

Hi guys,

I've been in town all week on business was thinking since it's my last night here I wanted to check out the Tucson club seen that I have heard so much about. I live in Phx but travel alot for work and mainly just hobby. In doing my research it seems like CS is the bet but I was wondering what kind of Rose's am I looking at to have fun in the VIP? I've spent a lot of time in Vegas clubs plus use to work in a club years ago so I know how to play the game just looking for any tips or suggestions for Tucson. I don't spend a lot of time on this site so if you need to check me out I am on humaniplex.com (LA) and TER look under fly2havefun.

Fly

[QUOTE=Desertchief]If you are gonna make poli jokes, how'd you miss Bill Clinton?

And yes, that's what I meant by liberal. Bill Clinton would find the CS VIP up to his standards. And in saying that, I am not referring any way to the size of the girls asses.

See, I can joke too.[/QUOTE]

Ha Ha! He does like the white girls with big backyards, dat's for sure. As much as I dislike his stand on many issues, that dude would be THE man to go to any club with. I totally would kick it with Slick Willie, guranteed to slide past the fuzz if there was ever a raid.

I finally made it to the Candy Store during the day shift. I've been wanting to experience the extra friendly, "neighborhood bar" atmosphere the regulars talk about. I had met Frenchie one evening when she had dropped in for a drink on her way to a party with a friend. As she had invited me to look her up If I came in during the day, that's what I was doing. Unfortunately, she was not working. On the bright side, Juicy Aimee was. She was dancing on stage and I went to tip her, not knowing who she was. I asked her name and was pleasantly surprised. When she finished on stage she came over and did a dance for me. As has been said she's by the book yet verrrry erotic. We went to the VIP and she showed why she's earned her reputation. She's a smart, beautiful and very sexy lady. Oh, I asked about the prefix "Juicee" She said it refers to some short shorts she has with "Juicee" emblazoned on the back (or front).

Later I was finishing my drink near the bar and who should show up but Frenchie. I bought her a drink and we talked for awhile then I had to go to a meeting.

PP

I'm not sure who else has had experience with her, but my experience was $ for a "little extra" fun in the VIP room the first time, and then she sprung $$$ on me the second time. I don't know others opinions, but nobody's that good.

The same day I had approached a cute short latina and she said $$, I thought it was too much at the time but maybe not. Of course, I'm going by what SH has said in the past on his site. Maybe that's out of date.

John

[QUOTE=Pilot Prod]I finally made it to the Candy Store during the day shift. I've been wanting to experience the extra friendly, "neighborhood bar" atmosphere the regulars talk about. I had met Frenchie one evening when she had dropped in for a drink on her way to a party with a friend. As she had invited me to look her up If I came in during the day, that's what I was doing. Unfortunately, she was not working. On the bright side, Juicy Aimee was. She was dancing on stage and I went to tip her, not knowing who she was. I asked her name and was pleasantly surprised. When she finished on stage she came over and did a dance for me. As has been said she's by the book yet verrrry erotic. We went to the VIP and she showed why she's earned her reputation. She's a smart, beautiful and very sexy lady. Oh, I asked about the prefix "Juicee" She said it refers to some short shorts she has with "Juicee" emblazoned on the back (or front).

Later I was finishing my drink near the bar and who should show up but Frenchie. I bought her a drink and we talked for awhile then I had to go to a meeting.

PP[/QUOTE]


Frankly - there is no one I enjoy more than our own sweet Amie. She is lovely on many levels and makes you feel far better than you actually are. And yes, by the book but the most sensual dancer I've ever seen. Hands down. When she's on stage guys, tip her well.

[QUOTE=Rightman John]I'm not sure who else has had experience with her, but my experience was $ for a "little extra" fun in the VIP room the first time, and then she sprung $$$ on me the second time. I don't know others opinions, but nobody's that good.

The same day I had approached a cute short latina and she said $$, I thought it was too much at the time but maybe not. Of course, I'm going by what SH has said in the past on his site. Maybe that's out of date.

John[/QUOTE]

Frenchie is something else. Her prices fluctuate with her daily need for money. Her problem is that she spends money like water on stuff she doesn't need. For instance, she has four cars: Cadillac, Cadillac Escalade, Mercedes, and Hummer. Now what the heck does she need four cars for? These days she's spending most of her awake hours trying to unload her possessions. She's gotten rid of a couple of the cars, "just take over payments for me." She is scrambling to liquidate her assets. She just sold her TV.

She has an intimate familiarity with the casinos. She has all these dumb dogs that nobody wants. She keeps saying that she's moving to Atlanta or someplace. She is a nice enough person, but is a train wreck in the making.

The going price for fs in the clubs right now is one Benjamin Franklin. You can pay more, and you can pay less (yes, less), but that seems to be the going rate having made the rounds of the clubs just recently as reported on my website.
SH

[QUOTE=Sexhobbyist]The going price for fs in the clubs right now is one Benjamin Franklin. You can pay more, and you can pay less (yes, less), but that seems to be the going rate having made the rounds of the clubs just recently as reported on my website.
SH[/QUOTE]This information is solid and right on the mark. What's troublesome to me now is weaning off some of the expectations some of the girls have when they see me come in. There are several who I've enjoyed in the past that see me now and instantly want to go to VIP. Nice for the ego but I usually like to sit for a short while before disappearing into VIP. Moreover, some know (or have heard through the dancer grapevine) what I've given certain dancers after particularly satisfying VIP sessions. In one case a dancer and I had a good time in VIP (pretty good but not my all time best). She was called to stage and had to leave VIP pretty quickly. I also had to make my exit so I went to pay her while she was on stage. I rewarded her nicely (but not as nice as I had done on a few previous VIP sessions) and she looked at me like, WTF... I didn't care for that attitude at all! So, now how to reset expectations when the dancers have come to equate a certain customer to a certain level of payment? That seems to be my next challenge - resetting some (and I stress some) expectations when it comes to tips in VIP.

The other challenge on my list right now is dealing with requests for 'loans' or 'advances' from dancers. So far I'm batting .000 with being re-paid back (don't worry I knew up front my chances were slim to none of ever seeing my money again). I'm still learning how to deal with these situations gracefully, lol.

[QUOTE=Kirstyforme]This information is solid and right on the mark. What's troublesome to me now is weaning off some of the expectations some of the girls have when they see me come in. There are several who I've enjoyed in the past that see me now and instantly want to go to VIP. Nice for the ego but I usually like to sit for a short while before disappearing into VIP. Moreover, some know (or have heard through the dancer grapevine) what I've given certain dancers after particularly satisfying VIP sessions. In one case a dancer and I had a good time in VIP (pretty good but not my all time best). She was called to stage and had to leave VIP pretty quickly. I also had to make my exit so I went to pay her while she was on stage. I rewarded her nicely (but not as nice as I had done on a few previous VIP sessions) and she looked at me like, WTF... I didn't care for that attitude at all! So, now how to reset expectations when the dancers have come to equate a certain customer to a certain level of payment? That seems to be my next challenge - resetting some (and I stress some) expectations when it comes to tips in VIP.

The other challenge on my list right now is dealing with requests for 'loans' or 'advances' from dancers. So far I'm batting .000 with being re-paid back (don't worry I knew up front my chances were slim to none of ever seeing my money again). I'm still learning how to deal with these situations gracefully, lol.[/QUOTE]

One way to reset the expectation of a dancer to expect a certain level of payment from you is to tell her upfront how much you intend to spend for your trip to vip before the trip happens. If she does not want to go to VIP for that amount then find a different dancer who would.
Sometimes when you make yourself "high profile" to the dancers and they know you pay well they scramble to get you up there.
My idea on this is to stick with the dancers who are not money grubbing @#$^%#@.

Have a great day.

[QUOTE=Feaster69]One way to reset the expectation of a dancer to expect a certain level of payment from you is to tell her upfront how much you intend to spend for your trip to vip before the trip happens. If she does not want to go to VIP for that amount then find a different dancer who would.[/QUOTE]
Excellent advice.

[QUOTE=Feaster69]My idea on this is to stick with the dancers who are not money grubbing @#$^%#@.[/QUOTE]
Ah, words to live by! I think it may be a short (but satisfying) list...

K4me

Feaster is right about negotiating in advance. The only caveat is being careful how you negotiate. You don't want to say, "What will you do for $100?" I start out asking, "How much money do you want to make today?" and I take it from there. (That was a Sexhobbyist tip.)

Another tip: I always try to vary the amount I give so that the dancer never expects a certain amount. Sometimes it varies by $20-$40, but it's hardly ever the same amount each time. Those that have a prix fixed menu, can expect to have me alter their prices.

I made a visit to a club today and was gently chided (with a velvet glove) by a forum reader who is a dancer. She said that her prices are considerably higher than the "one Benjamin Franklin" I said was the cost of fs.

My experience in a recent round robin of the clubs found this: full-service in four clubs with nine play-for-pay fs strippers. The average price was $100. Some asked for more and settled for less. One said, "my club price is $100, but I charge $200 outside the club." One said, "Just fuck me for any price."

My dancer friend said that the dancers she knew were charging $300-$500 and getting it. That may be the case. It depends on the knowledge and horniness of the monger paying those prices. Congrats for getting that price. That's why it's called free enterprise.

One thing she mentioned was that the dancers charging the low prices were the ones who didn't care about using condoms. The implication was that these were the strippers who didn't care about getting or spreading disease. In my club survey, condoms were used in every instance no matter what the price.
SH

Thought I would add my opinions and observations to the current discussion. I agree with SH in that the current rate, in the couple of clubs that I frequent, is 1 Benjamin, for FS. I have as well received lesser services for no more than your general gratuity.

Negotiation pre action is not a bad move either, especially if it is a gal you have not been serviced by before. I am not against compensating handsomely for great service at a club, but I hate feeling like a heel when I have to laugh at a gal when she starts asking for more after the act is completed and she is not happy with the tip given.

The fact is the economy is bad and these girls need to earn. At the CS in particular I think prices have deflated a great deal because VIP action is open til close now, no longer limited to the earlier hours of the day. Daytime in there is like a Roman orgy and the evenings are where the daytime was a year ago. You know it is bad when your waitress is asking you if you got a BJ while you were in there.

And I am in total agreement with Feaster...lets stick to the girls that aren't money grubbing. No faster way to guarantee no repeat business from me.

D Dog

[QUOTE=Sexhobbyist]Feaster is right about negotiating in advance. The only caveat is being careful how you negotiate. You don't want to say, "What will you do for $100?" I start out asking, "How much money do you want to make today?" and I take it from there. (That was a Sexhobbyist tip.)

Another tip: I always try to vary the amount I give so that the dancer never expects a certain amount. Sometimes it varies by $20-$40, but it's hardly ever the same amount each time. Those that have a prix fixed menu, can expect to have me alter their prices.

I made a visit to a club today and was gently chided (with a velvet glove) by a forum reader who is a dancer. She said that her prices are considerably higher than the "one Benjamin Franklin" I said was the cost of fs.

My experience in a recent round robin of the clubs found this: full-service in four clubs with nine play-for-pay fs strippers. The average price was $100. Some asked for more and settled for less. One said, "my club price is $100, but I charge $200 outside the club." One said, "Just fuck me for any price."

My dancer friend said that the dancers she knew were charging $300-$500 and getting it. That may be the case. It depends on the knowledge and horniness of the monger paying those prices. Congrats for getting that price. That's why it's called free enterprise.

One thing she mentioned was that the dancers charging the low prices were the ones who didn't care about using condoms. The implication was that these were the strippers who didn't care about getting or spreading disease. In my club survey, condoms were used in every instance no matter what the price.
SH[/QUOTE]

Just to let you know I know the Dancer who spanked your bottom in the club today. LOL Sometimes she does not choose her words so carefully and things come out not the way she intended. She knows I read and post here as she knows me by both names. Said dancer came up to me in the vip and told me of the talk you two had. I know that she did not intend to say that all of the $ fs girls are unsafe she just knows there are a few (lot) that are unsafe.
Personally I would have never posted that FS is going for $ that just hurts the FS girls who are worth 3-5. Some girls just give more personal attention and enjoy the time they spend doing their jobs and that makes it worth 3-5. But announcing to the forum that $ is all it takes hurts those girls when it comes to getting those first time vip trips to pay off. It becomes easy for the forum reader to tell the 3-5 girl no he will find one of those 1 girls.

I'm not saying you can't have a good time with some of the $ girls and I'm not saying all of the $$$-5 girls are worth the money.

So with all of that said just shop the girls and find the one you like for that trip to the vip and have fun.

I do know that most of the girls are not afraid to work out a price with you even if it is not what she set her price at.