Rants and Stupid shit in Orange County

[QUOTE=LiftHerUp;7253138]Yes. Also, I think many American women look down on women who really enjoy sex. I wish I knew how to change all this but I don't. I guess all I can do as an individual is when a woman really likes sex and really wants to make a man happy, I give her sincere praise and try to lift up the entirety of her life.

Lift Her Up.[/QUOTE]Woman's standard is just a bit too much for me now, which is why I just coming into this game recently. The same amount of money I would have spent with some chick on Tinder or Bumble, I wouldn't even get to second base, and while I can just do what I need to do and have no commitments.

We can thank the WASP movement for that. We went really sexually conservative because of them.

[QUOTE=LiftHerUp;7253138]Yes. Also, I think many American women look down on women who really enjoy sex. I wish I knew how to change all this but I don't. I guess all I can do as an individual is when a woman really likes sex and really wants to make a man happy, I give her sincere praise and try to lift up the entirety of her life.

Lift Her Up.[/QUOTE]

I found some interesting arrest data on Beach. According to their site, they make about 15 prostitution related arrests per month. These arrests are probably a combination of the SW and mongers. Some of the vehicle related citations are probably the cops trying to get something out of the the mongers because they couldn't get any solicitation charges. There's 2 sets of data for most months, so they seem to have 2 separate teams reporting. You can also cross reference these arrests with data (on other websites) that reveals a lot more info, such as their names, previous arrests and details of the arrests. They recently arrested a girl that had a loaded weapon inside her purse.

[URL]https://www.stantonca.gov/departments/public_safety/safe_streets_together/ocsd_human_trafficking_updates.php[/URL]

[QUOTE=HoDough;7276842]I found some interesting arrest data on Beach. According to their site, they make about 15 prostitution related arrests per month. These arrests are probably a combination of the SW and mongers. Some of the vehicle related citations are probably the cops trying to get something out of the the mongers because they couldn't get any solicitation charges. There's 2 sets of data for most months, so they seem to have 2 separate teams reporting. You can also cross reference these arrests with data (on other websites) that reveals a lot more info, such as their names, previous arrests and details of the arrests. They recently arrested a girl that had a loaded weapon inside her purse.

[URL]https://www.stantonca.gov/departments/public_safety/safe_streets_together/ocsd_human_trafficking_updates.php[/URL][/QUOTE]Interesting. I copped some dome on the beach on several occasions haven't had the courage to fuck there yet.

This is in response to post 39759 that just went up today in the MP thread.

Yes, I've thought the same thing about one particular poster. I went back and read several of his posts. They were all so very well structured, with just an occasional crude thing tossed in to possibly give it a taste of genuineness. (Is that what they call verisimilitude?) Anyway, maybe they're his (or her) sincere opinions, but I have the feeling he got a lot of computer-assisted help.

Whatever, I give the most weight to the posters who have been here a long time and who have many many posts and who report a variety of experiences, and generally respect these girls.

And now, back to having breasts crush into my chest while a vagina rubs back and forth on my dick while a throat gives off gasps into my ear.

Lift Her Up.

I am wondering when ICE will start focusing on AMPs. Maybe they won't because they are not visible like Hispanic Home Depot laborers. I would hate to get hemmed up because of a criminal administration's unconstitutional practices. Be careful out there boys.

[QUOTE=Doctorz;7312245]I am wondering when ICE will start focusing on AMPs. Maybe they won't because they are not visible like Hispanic Home Depot laborers. I would hate to get hemmed up because of a criminal administration's unconstitutional practices. Be careful out there boys.[/QUOTE]Retarded talk, nothing in this forum is really going to be affected by this. Yawn. If you're really worried about something happening then that says something about you LOL.

[QUOTE=LiftHerUp;7312194]This is in response to post 39759 that just went up today in the MP thread.

Yes, I've thought the same thing about one particular poster. I went back and read several of his posts. They were all so very well structured, with just an occasional crude thing tossed in to possibly give it a taste of genuineness. (Is that what they call verisimilitude?) Anyway, maybe they're his (or her) sincere opinions, but I have the feeling he got a lot of computer-assisted help.

Whatever, I give the most weight to the posters who have been here a long time and who have many many posts and who report a variety of experiences, and generally respect these girls.

And now, back to having breasts crush into my chest while a vagina rubs back and forth on my dick while a throat gives off gasps into my ear.

Lift Her Up.[/QUOTE]Yeah, I've been thinking a lot of them are AI generated partly or all of it. Irritating tactic that you can't really do much about when false flags are flooding the main area people engage.

[QUOTE=CamsV;7312317]Retarded talk, nothing in this forum is really going to be affected by this. Yawn. If you're really worried about something happening then that says something about you LOL.[/QUOTE]Please elaborate.

[QUOTE=Doctorz;7312245]I am wondering when ICE will start focusing on AMPs. Maybe they won't because they are not visible like Hispanic Home Depot laborers. I would hate to get hemmed up because of a criminal administration's unconstitutional practices. Be careful out there boys.[/QUOTE]I suspect, they won't go there. Most AMP's, won't have more than two or three girls working at any time. Just isn't worth it.

[QUOTE=Doctorz;7312503]Please elaborate.[/QUOTE]They have been taking fruit vendors. Those are single arrests although the optic of those arrests plays better for the narrative since those poor guys are more visible. Arresting illegal sex workers plays well in the media, especially if they get workers in sexy clothing on camera.

[QUOTE=Doctorz;7312770]They have been taking fruit vendors. Those are single arrests although the optic of those arrests plays better for the narrative since those poor guys are more visible. Arresting illegal sex workers plays well in the media, especially if they get workers in sexy clothing on camera.[/QUOTE]So I thought about this too. This morning I saw a video of them going into a nail salon in oc and asking the workers for documentation. First time I've seen Asians get asked tbh. Now that's one aspect the second they are going around raiding places picking up a couple people not mass pickups. The car wahmshes are prob yielding the higher numbers. But what I'm trying to get at they are getting help from a different agency like as backup. 3 letter agency don't want to spell it out. But like if they are taking workers then they might ask the customers more questions. So be careful for now.

[QUOTE=OcAmper;7312662]I suspect, they won't go there. Most AMP's, won't have more than two or three girls working at any time. Just isn't worth it.[/QUOTE]If it does happen, we can save them by offering to marry them. I was just talking to one of my ATF about this and she jokingly agreed to marry me if they came after her.

[QUOTE=OcAmper;7312662]I suspect, they won't go there. Most AMP's, won't have more than two or three girls working at any time. Just isn't worth it.[/QUOTE]Seriously? Trump hates China. Anyone who looks asian is fair game, he's not know for being very precise on targeting people. Basically anyone with a skin color that not lily white shouldn't be here. It's only a matter of time when they start hitting massage palors. Only those who can fly under the radar will survive.

[QUOTE=SCJohn;7313400]Seriously? Trump hates China. Anyone who looks asian is fair game, he's not know for being very precise on targeting people. Basically anyone with a skin color that not lily white shouldn't be here. It's only a matter of time when they start hitting massage palors. Only those who can fly under the radar will survive.[/QUOTE]I totally agree with you. To the guy that said MP's only have a few girls, they can hit 50 MP's in OC without driving more than 30 minutes. It will look great for the media since they will be arresting "criminals" and stopping "sex trafficking" that they pretend to care about so much on the right.

Trump likes to make a splash by using language very loosely when degrading anyone or any group of people. Reluctantly I have to agree with you guys. Santa Ana will probably be the first target for MP's. On the other hand it may very well be south county where he has much more political support from the residents.

Dark days my friends, Dark days.

DB.

[QUOTE=ArtVandalay90;7313506]I totally agree with you. To the guy that said MP's only have a few girls, they can hit 50 MP's in OC without driving more than 30 minutes. It will look great for the media since they will be arresting "criminals" and stopping "sex trafficking" that they pretend to care about so much on the right.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=DildoBaggens;7313792]Trump likes to make a splash by using language very loosely when degrading anyone or any group of people. Reluctantly I have to agree with you guys. Santa Ana will probably be the first target for MP's. On the other hand it may very well be south county where he has much more political support from the residents.

Dark days my friends, Dark days.

DB.[/QUOTE]They now have the data to show who is on medicaid as well as tax records, I dated 4-5 Chinese from Bumble last year, one was a divorced citizen living here for 20 years, could speak English, and was helping several friends FOB get on Medicaid, Section 8, any and all free service available. I imagine those nail shops and MPs are also employment places of these same individuals.

They'll be the next demo targeted.

[QUOTE=BlakCasper;7313933]They now have the data to show who is on medicaid as well as tax records, I dated 4-5 Chinese from Bumble last year, one was a divorced citizen living here for 20 years, could speak English, and was helping several friends FOB get on Medicaid, Section 8, any and all free service available. I imagine those nail shops and MPs are also employment places of these same individuals.

They'll be the next demo targeted.[/QUOTE]Same thing is going on in the community colleges where they practically train each other in how to get their share of free handouts including the classes that they barely show up to. When I was an employer everyone always asked to get paid "under the table" because if they make too much they won't qualify for free benefits. I have a love hate relationship with California. On one side is the weather and beauty while on the other is how large a population commits crimes of fraud.

[QUOTE=CamsV;7312317]Retarded talk, nothing in this forum is really going to be affected by this. Yawn. If you're really worried about something happening then that says something about you LOL.[/QUOTE]Its real talk this administration is crazy as fuck, Southern California was built by immigrants and they can't change that.

Let me just say, I'm not losing sleep over this stuff, however, there is a concern. Trump and Company are keeping their promise, they are rounding up people wholesale. Rationally, speaking, the odds of you being involved in a raid are probably fairly low. However. These raids have the potential of really limiting the pool of these gals we are very fond of.

[QUOTE=WhoreMaster91;7314473]Its real talk this administration is crazy as fuck, Southern California was built by immigrants and they can't change that.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=DildoBaggens;7314726]Let me just say, I'm not losing sleep over this stuff, however, there is a concern. Trump and Company are keeping their promise, they are rounding up people wholesale. Rationally, speaking, the odds of you being involved in a raid are probably fairly low. However. These raids have the potential of really limiting the pool of these gals we are very fond of.[/QUOTE]Went and chatted with the gals after my session the other day, they are all scared shitless these days about the raids, because we all know most of them don't have papers to stay and just here to work, and now quite a few of them is just taking a break and wait this shit out atm, so yea you are not wrong on they are limiting the pool of talents in the market.

[QUOTE=DildoBaggens;7314726]Let me just say, I'm not losing sleep over this stuff, however, there is a concern. Trump and Company are keeping their promise, they are rounding up people wholesale. Rationally, speaking, the odds of you being involved in a raid are probably fairly low. However. These raids have the potential of really limiting the pool of these gals we are very fond of.[/QUOTE][URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4vnXEWZJn0w[/URL]

Already hit one in Louisiana. Prob coming to SoCal soon.

[QUOTE=LugWrench04;7315612][URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4vnXEWZJn0w[/URL]

Already hit one in Louisiana. Prob coming to SoCal soon.[/QUOTE]It says the investigation started last year under Biden. ICE has come after brothels and spas in years past, so if you look at it objectively it most likely would have happened either way.

[URL]https://www.theadvocate.com/baton_rouge/news/crime_police/local-federal-agents-raid-9-baton-rouge-massage-parlors/article_b68abbb7-35f2-4524-a538-06d93fad5287.html[/URL]

This doesn't mean these raids are going away, just because it was started under Biden. Each administration can have their own justifications and devote resources towards it. Biden= Sex trafficking. Trump= immigration violations. From the looks of the video, it looked like easy pickings. Shutting down all those MPs at once looks good to the General public. Remember fellas, We are a minority too.

DB.

[QUOTE=HoDough;7315614]It says the investigation started last year under Biden. ICE has come after brothels and spas in years past, so if you look at it objectively it most likely would have happened either way.

[URL]https://www.theadvocate.com/baton_rouge/news/crime_police/local-federal-agents-raid-9-baton-rouge-massage-parlors/article_b68abbb7-35f2-4524-a538-06d93fad5287.html[/URL][/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=DildoBaggens;7315832]This doesn't mean these raids are going away, just because it was started under Biden. Each administration can have their own justifications and devote resources towards it. Biden= Sex trafficking. Trump= immigration violations. From the looks of the video, it looked like easy pickings. Shutting down all those MPs at once looks good to the General public. Remember fellas, We are a minority too.

DB.[/QUOTE]Unless I'm mistaken, busting MP historically has been much more of a local issue, the NIBY issue with MP being in a certain area.

I don't see the feds swooping down en mass to close a local joint, they've got bigger fish to fry.

[QUOTE=LugWrench04;7315612][URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4vnXEWZJn0w[/URL]

Already hit one in Louisiana. Prob coming to SoCal soon.[/QUOTE]I think we all need to look at this from a little different angle These parlors that got hit in Louisiana, Sheriff's deputies started the investigation around a year ago. Deputies started it, so it has nothing to do at all with any federal administration. Pure local enforcement, with the goal of shutting these parlors down.

Sheriff's brought in another 10 agencies to help do maximum damage.

On the other hand, ICE is likely doing little to no investigation, aside from assessing potential targets and prioritizing them. They hit the location in a snatch and grab type operation.

So, in my opinion, this Louisiana raid of parlors has little to nothing to do with the current operations, in what appears to be sanctuary cities. To be honest, I haven't tracked which cities ICE is hitting targets, but Santa Ana and Los Angeles are definitely sanctuary cities.

It is yet to be seen, if ICE will hit parlors. In my opinion and actions by local ICE hits so far, parlors aren't near the top of their list. Time will tell, as it always does.

[QUOTE=Taws6;7321600]Unless I'm mistaken, busting MP historically has been much more of a local issue, the NIBY issue with MP being in a certain area.

I don't see the feds swooping down en mass to close a local joint, they've got bigger fish to fry.[/QUOTE]A car wash is bigger fish? They are arresting a person or two at those. I think they'd go anywhere they think they can catch someone, it's even better for them if it makes good publicity.

[QUOTE=FarFarAway;7322177]A car wash is bigger fish? They are arresting a person or two at those. I think they'd go anywhere they think they can catch someone, it's even better for them if it makes good publicity.[/QUOTE]I was going to say the same thing when I was the original post. "ICE" aka dudes in tactical gear with no identifying badges have been going into restaurants, job sites, car washes, home depot, etc. And just straight abducting humans.

It's not an "if" they will raid massage parlors, it's simply a "when".

[QUOTE=FarFarAway;7322177]A car wash is bigger fish? They are arresting a person or two at those. I think they'd go anywhere they think they can catch someone, it's even better for them if it makes good publicity.[/QUOTE]According to a OC Sheriffs deputy I play poker with, these are targeted raids of individuals with records. The locations are known places of employment or a spot where they believe the person they are after will be. Anyone else they come across, unfortunately for them, is fair game. And they always let local law enforcement know where they are operating.

[QUOTE=OCpyro;7323233]According to a OC Sheriffs deputy I play poker with, these are targeted raids of individuals with records. The locations are known places of employment or a spot where they believe the person they are after will be. Anyone else they come across, unfortunately for them, is fair game. And they always let local law enforcement know where they are operating.[/QUOTE]Ice is not notifying Santa Ana, according to you and your friend. They are not notifying LAPD or Pasadena to name two. And now it's clear it's racial profiling as this article clearly suggests.

[URL]https://www.newsweek.com/narciso-barranco-marine-beaten-border-patrol-california-2089242[/URL]

[QUOTE=Throwaway3602;7323169]I was going to say the same thing when I was the original post. "ICE" aka dudes in tactical gear with no identifying badges have been going into restaurants, job sites, car washes, home depot, etc. And just straight abducting humans.

It's not an "if" they will raid massage parlors, it's simply a "when".[/QUOTE]Yup some bullshit. If you don't believe it. Look at the raids they do. Pick up 10 people or so and then release 2 cause they are citizens. Like they don't figure that out until they are getting booked. It's like let's get everyone down to the jail and see what comes up.

Yesterday I was at my current favorite provider and we briefly discussed the ICE situation that's going on. She told me she's very nervous about it. She feels it's just a matter of time before ICE starts focusing on massage parlors. Their business has stopped advertising. Fortunately, they're in a medical building with no signage. That doesn't mean that ICE can't find them, unless they have falsely registered their business under a different profession. ICE just has to look for business licenses that say therapeutic massage in each municipality, and voila!, they have the keys to the Kingdom, so to speak.

While it's possible that ICE could target AMPs, the security is fairly robust at many parlors and out of town ICE are probably the AMP's best customers. Most places I go to have a lock on the door and while ICE could break down the door, that would be noisy, slow and expensive if they didn't arrest anybody. The places I go during the day time generally have only 1 or 2 providers working and they'd have to catch them in the act with probable cause to break down the door. LE can't just knock down any door without probable cause or a warrant. Much easier to go to a Home Depot or Lowes and grab half a dozen people than grab maybe one or two at an AMP.

In Louisiana, it looked like almost nobody was arrested, simply detained for questioning and probably let go because I haven't heard of any AMP deportations or prison sentences.

If you prefer Latinas, there may be a bit more concern obviously but until there are some more local reports of AMP busts. It's Happy Mongering for me.

[QUOTE=YellowFinTuna;7326412]While it's possible that ICE could target AMPs, the security is fairly robust at many parlors and out of town ICE are probably the AMP's best customers. Most places I go to have a lock on the door and while ICE could break down the door, that would be noisy, slow and expensive if they didn't arrest anybody. The places I go during the day time generally have only 1 or 2 providers working and they'd have to catch them in the act with probable cause to break down the door. LE can't just knock down any door without probable cause or a warrant. Much easier to go to a Home Depot or Lowes and grab half a dozen people than grab maybe one or two at an AMP.

In Louisiana, it looked like almost nobody was arrested, simply detained for questioning and probably let go because I haven't heard of any AMP deportations or prison sentences.

If you prefer Latinas, there may be a bit more concern obviously but until there are some more local reports of AMP busts. It's Happy Mongering for me.[/QUOTE]This isn't the same as the way the police work. That has been the case everywhere. I don't think CBP enforcement is following standard civil rights practices. They don't care about probable cause.

They aren't there to catch them 'providing' specifically. They are trying to find people working here who aren't on visas and aren't citizens.

[QUOTE=YellowFinTuna;7326412]While it's possible that ICE could target AMPs, the security is fairly robust at many parlors and out of town ICE are probably the AMP's best customers. Most places I go to have a lock on the door and while ICE could break down the door, that would be noisy, slow and expensive if they didn't arrest anybody. The places I go during the day time generally have only 1 or 2 providers working and they'd have to catch them in the act with probable cause to break down the door. LE can't just knock down any door without probable cause or a warrant. Much easier to go to a Home Depot or Lowes and grab half a dozen people than grab maybe one or two at an AMP.

In Louisiana, it looked like almost nobody was arrested, simply detained for questioning and probably let go because I haven't heard of any AMP deportations or prison sentences.

If you prefer Latinas, there may be a bit more concern obviously but until there are some more local reports of AMP busts. It's Happy Mongering for me.[/QUOTE]I think even detox is not putting their A games in their shop anymore, staying as far from latinas as much as possible until this blows over.

[QUOTE=CamsV;7312318]Yeah, I've been thinking a lot of them are AI generated partly or all of it. Irritating tactic that you can't really do much about when false flags are flooding the main area people engage.[/QUOTE]We've discussed the possibility of there being reviews here whose wording is enhanced by if not entirely generated by AI. And then, a couple of times recently I came across two pictures in ads on [URL]adultlook.com[/URL] where the fingers looked a little odd. I recall the difficulty AI has had in the past when drawing hands.

Look at these two attached pictures, the length of the ring finger on the first and the length of all the fingers on the second. What do you think?

Lift Her Up.

[QUOTE=LiftHerUp;7333662]We've discussed the possibility of there being reviews here whose wording is enhanced by if not entirely generated by AI. And then, a couple of times recently I came across two pictures in ads on [URL]adultlook.com[/URL] where the fingers looked a little odd. I recall the difficulty AI has had in the past when drawing hands.

Look at these two attached pictures, the length of the ring finger on the first and the length of all the fingers on the second. What do you think?

Lift Her Up.[/QUOTE]The first picture is all messed up. I definitely think it is AI. Whatever that means to you.

[QUOTE=LiftHerUp;7333662]We've discussed the possibility of there being reviews here whose wording is enhanced by if not entirely generated by AI. And then, a couple of times recently I came across two pictures in ads on [URL]adultlook.com[/URL] where the fingers looked a little odd. I recall the difficulty AI has had in the past when drawing hands.

Look at these two attached pictures, the length of the ring finger on the first and the length of all the fingers on the second. What do you think?.[/QUOTE]Those are AIs for sure, I usually ignore those glam images these days, the fakes are getting better and better.

Is there anyone who would not want to bang Kristi Noem?

[QUOTE=FarFarAway;7335216]Is there anyone who would not want to bang Kristi Noem?[/QUOTE]She looks good for a 53 year old.