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Retirement Age for Hookers
[QUOTE=Ho Hunter 328;2123386]Here's my favorite MILF, and I'd put her skills and enthusiasm up against any others. Even though she's only in her early 20's, she's still technically a MILF.
Stay safe, and happy hunting.[/QUOTE]I know the, "M" in MILF stands for, "mother. " I always figured the, "M", for "Mature," was implied. I guess by today's standards, a 13 year old with a kid could be considered a MILF.
We all have our preferences, idiosyncrasies and fetishes. Personally, I draw the line at MILF's (and any female) under the legal age. As I am sure most of the members on this forum will agree.
For me, age over what's legal, is not a qualifier. Cleanliness, attitude, personality, appearance and service are what's important to me. Imagination, freakiness and sensuality are also high on my list of attributes. IMHO, a girl / women can have all of the above and be a grandmother to boot.
So, let's turn this one around and ask Deb. What about Grandmother Providers? Is that the image one wants for their kiddies. Grandma's a hooker and there is nothing wrong with that. There is a lower age limited, ought there be an upper. Or! Should it be what the market will bear?
CookyJar.
A little over 85? Maybe 90?
[URL]http://www.col3best.com/21893-britains-oldest-prostitute-85-years-old-sheila-vogel-.html[/URL]
Apparently with end demand the prices are going up on backpage?
[URL]http://boston.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/tasteful-blonde-and-classy-brunette-in-the-back-bay-27/26696214[/URL]
I'm not sure what kind of services you receive for this astronomical price
Companionship for events, dinner, maybe even the movies, 2 hours for $600? [URL]http://boston.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/petite-classy-upscale-service-diner-date-or-night-on-the-town-mature-gentlemen-only-30/26693945[/URL].
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Re: I had to blow off some steam today
[quote=deb4512;2123680]...women should have the right to decide what to do with their own bodies...without government interference. you're a feminist right? same thing should apply to sex work. no one is saying that human traffickers who force women or **** girls to have sex should be legally allowed to do so. what we in the sex worker's rights community are saying is this. prosecute the human traffickers and let everyone else who chooses to do or to pay for sex alone for gosh sakes.
debbie.[/quote]where i stand on legalized prostitution should be obvious. i am for it.
the problem is, as i see it, what do we as a group have to do to get it legalized. unfortunately, imho, the only thing we can do right now is wait our turn.
lincoln freed the slaves, prohibition was defeated, women got the vote, civil right laws got passed, women rights, gay rights and the current movement is to legalize cannabis, joint, pot, marijuana. my point is that in time each cause gets its turn.
i am guessing that the legalize prostitution movement will get its start in about the same way legalize gambling and legal marijuana got there start...economics. some small town will need to raise money / taxes, take a hint from nevada and wham. legal red light districts. if history is to be the guide, no matter how blatantly obvious the right thing to do maybe, in this country the people can only take on one moral correction at a time.
have no fear, we are next in line, right after legalize marijuana, immigration and new gun laws. (i suspect that they will legal prostitution before the nra allows restriction to the gun laws.).
cookyjar.
Spelling should be perfect too when asking for those rates
She spelled dinner diner and dessert desert. I know escorts can't do spell checks on backpage, but backpage should have that function! I was an English major in college before switching to Psychology and I even have trouble with spelling and grammer sometimes. LOL.
I found her website, because I was curious
Nothing much for me to do today. It's my time off LOL. Wow, check out the 48 hours! I think it was $4500.00! Also 4 hour dinner and dessert (spelled correctly on her website) for $1200! Who spends that much time eating unless it's code for sex. But then wow, the guy would have to have a lot of energy for 4 hours of sex! Dang. Well it does say she doesn't upsell at least. I'm not making fun of her by the way. She is probably a very nice, sweet lady, but I just don't understand what guy searching on backpage would pay these prices, but I could be wrong. A2, I'm not sure I'm allowed to post the website, ok. Well I'll save it and please let me know if I'm allowed to post this escorts website. I did post my own in off topics and that was a no no LOL. Also, I do know of an escort who offers a wife experience for $20,000! I forget for how many hours. She is gorgeous, but damn. I wonder what a wife experience entails? Do any of you spend a few hours with your wives and pay them $20,000? I thought that anyone who'd want to see an escort would leave the wife experience at home and definitely not spend $20,000 on it! I wonder what kind of rates these ladies could command in Argentina LOL.
[blue]Post the link, this I gotta see.
$20,000 would cover a top tier provider, 4 days a week, for a year down here.
A2[/blue]
Can you guys explain the attraction to toothless women?
Is it the BJ? [URL]http://boston.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/smooth-sailing-mature-0lder-class-act-45/4849111[/URL].
Just a few thoughts from an escort
Guys, this is just a suggestion, not mandatory so I hope you don't take offense if this sounds like you. An SP is in the service industry like a hairdresser, professional masseuse, reiki master, waitress, bartender. Remember we are women, people you know. We aren't blow up dolls unless we are so stoned or out of it when we see you. It'd be nice if when you came for a visit to say Hi Debbie, how are you doing? And I'd say Hello, John, great how about you? What do I get sometimes, but a glum faced guy who doesn't say Hello, doesn't want to look me in the eye, but wants to rush to my bedroom. No introduction whether I know them or not. I'm not a SW! I know you guys are paying, but don't you think it'd be weird if you went to a hairdresser, masseuse, just sat in the chair, or on the table and didn't say Hello,? Plain weird. So you're in a hurry. I mean I get these calls, "Can I see you for 15 min!" Are you serious? Good money for me, because it's easy, but really. You know how boring it is to have a customer like this? And we're called escorts lmao. I'm not sure where the escorting comes in. I actually like it when you guys like to relax afterwards and chat. I'm human and this is the most human contact I get since I'm not working. I have to say having clients like this makes me feel icky. And then when you're finished and I go to hug you goodbye I sometimes get pushed away. I know it's your money and you have the right to have the session run the way you want. But it's really treated me like a nonhuman. Like you are ashamed of what you've done, maybe ashamed of me? This part of escorting it the part I dislike the most, as much as when a guy calls me a working girl while pulling my hair. I'm trying to figure out what to do about it. I'd rather be more on the human end of the business. Any suggestions on how I can do that? I need mental stimulation.
I was thinking about my last posting
I'm a quirky, think outside of the box type of gal. I'm very passionate and intense, artistic, spiritual. I really enjoy friendship, intimacy, affection and some sort of connection and especially mental stimulation. I just find the in and out cold, indifferent encounters to be kind of boring. They lack passion! Nothing personal if that's what some guys like. I mean I read the posts and some of you would prefer not to get to know the SP personally, but are more interested in a purely physical encounter. I got involved in escorting on a whim, because I needed money desperately. But this is my personality and it'd be like cutting off my arm to be any different. I'm trying to figure out how I can attract clients who are like minded. I'm not sure how to go about doing that. Also I'm not into volume, especially not anymore, because I'm financially stable. I know I'm supposed malleable and be whatever type of woman the client desires, but I want to enjoy the experience too.
Re: Just a few thoughts from an escort
See! This is why I like you so much. Not only do you give the woman's point of view. Which I find very helpful. You bring up topics which I've often thought about, but as a man, find it hard to being up and discuss in this forum.
[QUOTE=Deb4512;2129718]...An SP is in the service industry like a hairdresser, professional masseuse, reiki master, waitress, bartender. Remember we are women, people you know.And we're called escorts lmao. I'm not sure where the escorting comes in[/QUOTE]I understand. I don't like being called a john or being referred to as a, "Client or Regular. " I'd rather be referred to as, "A Friend. " So, I understand why some girls might not like being called some of the names we use.
Whenever possible I like using first names or, girl, lady, women, friend or similar terms. I use streetwalker or streetworker when it's necessary to distinguish between BackPage girls, and girls who can be found on the streets. Actually I prefer the term, "Provider or Providers," short for, "Sex Provider. " But! We have to be able to distinguish between the types - right? BackPage providers advertise solely on BackPage. Escort Providers advertise on sites like EROS, have their own personal websites and sometimes can be found on sites like BackPage. Street providers can be found walking the streets. Providers may sometimes move between the different designations, however, what we are referring to is the most recent location where the provider can be found. There is also another designation which I find a little baffling, "The UTR (under the radar) Provider. " The UTR Provider depends on word of mouth or magic to meet friends.
[QUOTE=Deb4512;2129718]...An SP is in the service industry like a hairdresser, professional masseuse, reiki master, waitress, bartender...
don't you think it'd be weird if you went to a hairdresser, masseuse, just sat in the chair, or on the table and didn't say Hello,?
it's your money and you have the right to have the session run the way you want. But it's really treated me like a nonhuman. Like you are ashamed of what you've done, maybe ashamed of me? This part of escorting it the part I dislike the most, as much as when a guy calls me a working girl while pulling my hair. I'm trying to figure out what to do about it. I'd rather be more on the human end of the business. Any suggestions on how I can do that? I need mental stimulation.[/QUOTE]You are one hundred percent right; you are in the service industry.
Some guys go into their local barber shop and talk their asses off. Others set in the chair, tell the barber how to cut their hair, pay up and leave; they just are not much for talking. There are all types of people who come into a barber shop and a good barber understands that. Some guys like the old fashion barber shops. Others like the new style hair cuttery. In any case, guys get their hair cut at the shop where they feel comfortable and by the barber who cuts their hair the way they want their hair cut.
It's the business, sweetheart (another term I like). And in business the customer is always right. A good barber know that not everyone is a talker and try to make even the less talkative feel at home in their shop. Personally I hate it when my barber tries to get me involved in an uninteresting subject of conversation.
INHO, a good Provider is a provider of fantasy fulfillment. Not every guy tells the provider their fantasy. Sometimes it is not necessary. Sometimes the guy can get what he wants and fulfill his needs without saying much. Sometimes it's little more than a nice relaxing BJ. More often than not it's something they cannot get elsewhere. Other times, the guy wants something more. The good Provider figures out how to give her friends what they come to her for without embarrassing or discouraging them and without degrading herself. Sometimes what the guy wants is to degrade the Provider. Shooting sperm over a providers face may not seem degrading, and he doesn't know why his wife won't let him do it to her. To the guys who like doing it, it may not seem degrading, and they are willing to pay to prove it. To them, it's fun.
Most guys start out not knowing what they really want. Slowly their fantasies evolve. Most guys claim they like GFE. What they really want is to hug and kiss, then do and say a whole bunch of stuff they'd never do or say to a wife or girlfriend. And! Sadly! There are some guys who simply see providers as receptacles. For some guys the nasty receptacle is the fantasy. It is how they see women in general. Mostly we are guys who need a little something different from what's readily available to us.
I always speak, that's just being polite. I am always a gentleman. Usually I will apologize either before and certainly after, for any rude or ungentlemanly things I may say or do. I always explain that noting I say or do should be taken personal. A good Provider has got to be prepared for a little dirty talk and some hair pulling. They (the customer) cannot call their wife *****, so they pay you for the opportunity.
The jest of the thing is: It is the, "Sex Trade. " It is not the, "Making Friends Trade. " It is nice when you can combine work, pleasure and friendship. It is not going to happen all the time.
OH! And, one more thing! When I am done, I am done. I am ready to go. There is nothing else to do. I am not in love. You are not in love. I'm not looking for a lover and neither are you. What's there to talk about? The weather, what's on TV or how good the BJ was? I'm not ashamed, nor am I trying to make anyone feel bad. There is just nothing else to do, unless you are going to give me another shot or fix dinner. You haven't been used, you've been paid. I don't wait around at the barbershop after my hair's been cut. Offer to fix me a snack and I might stay.
CookyJar.
RE: I was thinking about my last posting
[QUOTE=Deb4512;2130622]I'm a quirky, think outside of the box type of gal. I'm very passionate and intense, artistic, spiritual. I really enjoy friendship, intimacy, affection and some sort of connection and especially mental stimulation. I just find the in and out cold, indifferent encounters to be kind of boring. They lack passion! Nothing personal if that's what some guys like. I mean I read the posts and some of you would prefer not to get to know the SP personally, but are more interested in a purely physical encounter. I got involved in escorting on a whim, because I needed money desperately. But this is my personality and it'd be like cutting off my arm to be any different. I'm trying to figure out how I can attract clients who are like minded. I'm not sure how to go about doing that. Also I'm not into volume, especially not anymore, because I'm financially stable. I know I'm supposed malleable and be whatever type of woman the client desires, but I want to enjoy the experience too.[/QUOTE]Sorry! I didn't read this until after I had post my answer. You're asking for a lot.
CookyJar.
Warrants needed for cell phone searches
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Visiting provider from LA and doing outcalls in Danvers area
[URL]http://boston.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/1bombshell-stunning-italian-beauty-sweet-special-100-satisfying-reviewed-25/26784273[/URL] You can look at her reviews on the other site. She has more pics there and awesome reviews.
May have good reviews but fake pics
[QUOTE=Deb4512;2134988][URL]http://boston.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/1bombshell-stunning-italian-beauty-sweet-special-100-satisfying-reviewed-25/26784273[/URL] You can look at her reviews on the other site. She has more pics there and awesome reviews.[/QUOTE]Pics are different from the ones in her reviews on other site. Also has tow different names on the other site.