"Sugarbabies" / "Arrangements" Amateurs or Not?

[QUOTE=Norm Gerd;1236783]Of course, for her, it did turn out to be mostly the money, as we got down to business, she asked me if I had it, but did not ask for it up front.[/QUOTE]Its hard to criticize the girls for checking when there are a few bad apple mongers out there who cheat them. Two sbs told me about guys giving them fake bank checks. One girl tried to cash the check at a bank and LE was all over her ass in a heartbeat.

[QUOTE]I honestly think she does not see herself as a pro.[/QUOTE]Your sb doesn't sound like a pro to me.

[QUOTE]NB#1 is sooooo my type (and so freaking hot) I could see getting entangled. So I am breaking from the way I would normally act, and ignoring her. I hope it works. LOL.[/QUOTE]I hope it works out for you too. Entanglement is a serious risk when you fuck amateurs. It does seem to be less of a risk the more sbs you fuck. Just my view. Thanks for the useful posts.

[QUOTE=Hernando; 1236795]Has anyone been successful in keeping a salaried lover?

I am constantly striving for a regular relationship that is a "deal " for both partners and that gets away from the piecework routine. My SB is paid by the encounter at present, and I can and want to see her more than I should spend. I will bring up the possibility of a set monthly rate with her for an open ended number of visits. Basically, she wins because she gets a regular salary she can count on and I do also because each visit is less expensive. I'll let you know if she bites.

One big problem are Hotel rooms, which take 1/3 of the fee. I recommend looking for a SB who has her own pad so she will end up with more and you will pay less.

One idea I am toying with is to pay her a salary out of (my own) company funds adding her to the payroll as a personal assistant. Very personal for sure. It will be deductable to me and she will be able to have a salary for credit purposes. She will also have taxes to pay but not bad for a 20 something Yr old college girl. Any of you accountants or lawyers out there have any thoughts on the subject?[/QUOTE]Nando, I agree with Spit and Vroom on this one. I think its a bad idea to make her an employee for the reasons they stated.

BTW, re your comment your dick may be too short to make them squirt. Maybe that's because with the volume you process you've worn the poor little bugger down to a nub.

OK, Squirt Mongers: where's the stuff come from? A or B?

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[QUOTE=Literal2; 1237230]OK, Squirt Mongers: where's the stuff come from? A or B?

[ATTACH=CONFIG]137574[/ATTACH][/QUOTE]A. Based on personal experience of sucking on A, while the thing went off w / o warning.

Wow, what a face full of salty sweet discharge. Nearly blinded by the goodness.

[QUOTE=Varoom; 1236809]Is Cytheria. If you have never seen her before, watch this; she squirts like a fire hose. And often. She wins squirting contest after contest.

3 min free video:

[url]http://www.pornhub.com/view_video.php?viewkey=752df39a91381149962d[/url][/QUOTE]99% of what you see in porn vids is just pissing.

I've had (created, actually) a number of squirters, and they looked nothing like the porn fakers. It takes intense g-spot stimulation by someone else (curled fingers to go all the way in and then pull down and back) , and a straight vibrator won't do it.

The volume of liquid is all wrong, and the physical response is all wrong.

None of them were capable of talking and making kissy duckface for the camera as they neared and experienced squirting orgasms. Their bodies would almost lock-up flat on the bed, and they'd convulse or even jackknife while making unintelligible sounds. Afterwards, a few minutes in the fetal position was common.

I agree that a very high percentage of these vid clips are fake. I stated earlier how the porn business eludes people. It's like everything else in the porn business, it's adult entertainment that that's very much fiction.

To me these "squirting contests" are nothing more than a pissing match among the contestants.

I have actually seen girls use a Magic Wand or one with some of the attachments, but a good G-spot vibrator works."Lelo" makes one of the best for this. I have seen a couple of girls squirt from riding a Sybian with a G-spot attachment. She appeared as though she was having an epileptic seizure.

The call it "squirting" and female ejaculation for a reason. The girls I have seen do this are real and natural. It's a "squirt" of a milky white to clear substance. As I said previously, the orgasms are very intense and they were pretty much wiped out afterwards.

[QUOTE=Bunker Buster; 1237424]99% of what you see in porn vids is just pissing.

I've had (created, actually) a number of squirters, and they looked nothing like the porn fakers. It takes intense g-spot stimulation by someone else (curled fingers to go all the way in and then pull down and back) , and a straight vibrator won't do it.

The volume of liquid is all wrong, and the physical response is all wrong.

None of them were capable of talking and making kissy duckface for the camera as they neared and experienced squirting orgasms. Their bodies would almost lock-up flat on the bed, and they'd convulse or even jackknife while making unintelligible sounds. Afterwards, a few minutes in the fetal position was common.[/QUOTE]

This will give you a better clue.

You should see one in a 24 megapixel, 5000+ pixels :cool:

[QUOTE=Literal2;1237230]OK, Squirt Mongers: where's the stuff come from?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Richmond Fotog; 1237529]This will give you a better clue.

You should see one in a 24 megapixel. 5000+ pixels :cool:[/QUOTE]Cough, cough * well, I have to evaluate this. Vewwy innerwesting.

Cytheria has been outed by people in the adult entertainment field as just being a good fake.

The secret formula to Cyntheria, Tucci, Sierra and others squirting across the room and supposedly produce quarts of orgasmic fluids / water (impossible for a human) , is to simply use an enema bag of water and force the water out during a fake orgasm. That's evident in the clip. You can actually tell it's just water by looking at the camera lens and if you watch the clip close enough you can spot where they stopped the video to reload.

Cytheria was on with Howard Stern doing her "trick" when they laughed at her and an OB / GYN labeled her as a "good fake."

Here's another method:

[url]http://www.uselessjunk.com/article_full.php?id=12950[/url]

[QUOTE=Varoom; 1236809]Is Cytheria. If you have never seen her before, watch this; she squirts like a fire hose. And often. She wins squirting contest after contest.

3 min free video:

[url]http://www.pornhub.com/view_video.php?viewkey=752df39a91381149962d[/url][/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Varoom; 1237288]A. Based on personal experience of sucking on A, while the thing went off w / o warning.

Wow, what a face full of salty sweet discharge. Nearly blinded by the goodness.[/QUOTE]Thanks. Now we know our monger kits should include lube, condoms, vitamin V AND goggles.

[QUOTE=Literal2; 1237230]OK, Squirt Mongers: where's the stuff come from? A or B?

[ATTACH=CONFIG]137574[/ATTACH][/QUOTE]Here is a great vid that shows the squirt up close. 6 mins. Pretty hot stuff.

[url]http://www.youporn.com/watch/155869/very-wet-pussy-and-orgasm/?user_choice=Enter[/url]

[QUOTE=Richmond Fotog;1237566]Cytheria has been outed by people in the adult entertainment field as just being a good fake.[/QUOTE]Hmmm. Here is a short vid of Peter North and Cytheria. He needs a rain suit, argh. Watch her azz shutter. Some good acting you say?

[url]http://www.heaven666.org/peter-north-makes-cytheria-squirt-hard-2521.php[/url]

The first of Vroom's videos is interesting because it shows a combination of milky fluid and clear fluid. The articles previously linked talk about this.

The second video is what happened to me with my 32 year old sb. I can't imagine where that volume of fluid could come from if it isn't from her bladder, but the squirting response is clearly a sexual one and accompanies an orgasm. I wouldn't want it all the time, but it was exciting and different when it happened.

[QUOTE=Literal2; 1237867]The first of Vroom's videos is interesting because it shows a combination of milky fluid and clear fluid. The articles previously linked talk about this.

The second video is what happened to me with my 32 year old sb. I can't imagine where that volume of fluid could come from if it isn't from her bladder, but the squirting response is clearly a sexual one and accompanies an orgasm. I wouldn't want it all the time, but it was exciting and different when it happened.[/QUOTE]I had a lady tell me that you don't always squirt when you have an orgasm. But you always have an orgasm when you squirt! And she did too!

[QUOTE=Richmond Fotog; 1237529]This will give you a better clue.

You should see one in a 24 megapixel. 5000+ pixels :cool:[/QUOTE]The stream shown is clear and coming out her urethra, right?

So where does the milky fluid you've seen in your squirters come from? Assuming you've been stable enough during the squirting event to pay attention to such things.

Thanks for the advice re: signing this SB up. There is a very real temptation with a "keeper" to formalize an arrangement, but if it goes south then I would be open to a risk. And they all seem to end at some point, some worse than others.