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What is wrong with the women in Florida? I"m about done with this hobby till I move back home.

This chick [URL]http://www.preferred411.com/p188316[/URL]... smoking hot, actually insanely good reviews. On my search around the web for her I noticed she was on IndepentGirls, which I hadn't heard of before since we don't use it in NC, but decided to join be / see the ladies on there give really good discounts to paying members of the site. Plus it's only $25, so what's it hurt? While that was being processed I went ahead and sent Lee a message on p411 to get the ball rolling, and she could go ahead and see that I have multiple versifications on there, even though I'm new to IG. She gets back to me via text later and says she won't honor her IG prices because I contacted her on p411 first. WTF? I paid my dues like every other VIP member on the site, WTF? Things went south after that, including her now threatening to send screenshots of our texts to IG and P411 to show them how I was trying to game the system. Sure lady go ahead, lets see how far that gets you. I'm sure both P411 would like to know that you offer IG members a $150 discount an hour, and IG would probably like to know that you just told one of the people helping to pay their bills that you won't honor the price you have listed for VIP members.

Women down here are crazy.

[QUOTE=Lpmrhahn;2738490]I moved here in October, and other than visiting a couple AMPs, I haven't dabbled in the hobby since I got here. Not a lot that was appealing to me, but I did spot Sweet Sexy Tee back at the end of October ([URL]http://www.sweetsexytee.com/[/URL]) and tried to setup an appoint through p411. No response after a couple of days so I dropped her a text message and she said she'd get on and check me out. Well that never happened, and up until the other day I never heard from her again and she never logged into p411.

Sent her another message the other day, just to see if she was around now. Surprisingly she responded that her life is hectic at times, and that's why she didn't respond. Ok that's fine, whatever, still want to see her. She finally gets on p411 and starts emailing providers that have already approved me on there (I'm OKed 3 times on there). That's odd but ok, she told me her reason was because my account might have been hacked. That's not exactly how it works (3 womens accounts would have had to be hacked to get me 3 reviews, and emailing them doesn't really give you any extra security if they've already hacked other accounts). But I went with it, got verified, and finally she told me to go through her site and setup an appointment. Here's the kicker though. She told me she no longer does incall (it's on her site and p411 that she does). That's ok, I'm single, and don't mind hosting her except I live in a gated community and would need her last name only to let her in. Obviously she doesn't want to do this, so now the whole thing is a no go LOL.

Best part of it all. It's very easy to find out who she is. When will these ladies learn what google voice or burner phones are, don't tie it to your other online accounts!

</ venting .[/QUOTE]Just clicked on your link and it appears she's done with the business.

[QUOTE=PFish1;2745013]Just clicked on your link and it appears she's done with the business.[/QUOTE]Yeah. Her texts got worse, she accused me of invading her privacy by looking up her #. You know the one that she made public, and tied to her FB account LOL. She then told me I was the reason she was retiring. Sucks, I really wanted to see her.

[QUOTE=Lpmrhahn;2744925]What is wrong with the women in Florida? I"m about done with this hobby till I move back home.

This chick [URL]http://www.preferred411.com/p188316[/URL]... smoking hot, actually insanely good reviews. On my search around the web for her I noticed she was on IndepentGirls, which I hadn't heard of before since we don't use it in NC, but decided to join be / see the ladies on there give really good discounts to paying members of the site. Plus it's only $25, so what's it hurt? While that was being processed I went ahead and sent Lee a message on p411 to get the ball rolling, and she could go ahead and see that I have multiple versifications on there, even though I'm new to IG. She gets back to me via text later and says she won't honor her IG prices because I contacted her on p411 first. WTF? I paid my dues like every other VIP member on the site, WTF? Things went south after that, including her now threatening to send screenshots of our texts to IG and P411 to show them how I was trying to game the system. Sure lady go ahead, lets see how far that gets you. I'm sure both P411 would like to know that you offer IG members a $150 discount an hour, and IG would probably like to know that you just told one of the people helping to pay their bills that you won't honor the price you have listed for VIP members.

Women down here are crazy.[/QUOTE]First of all, I can vouch for those reviews and tell you that you missed-out. I have shared time and companionship with Lee O'Mally and she is a sweetheart, an absolutely top notch Provider, in super-fit physical condition and few dudes can keep up with her. You would need to take your vitamins and work-out to get in shape for her, or you may feel inadequate.

I am also on both P411 and IG, they each serve their purpose. IG is mostly a South Florida board, though it is nice when those ladies come up to Central Florida. Which I think Lee is doing this next weekend. It is a little odd that you brought this issue to USASG to air; but hey, all information is helpful for our fellow Hobbyists to weigh.

I have not talked to Lee about your comments, but I can tell you that she is a very principled and loyal woman. She respects the companies that help market her services. Apparently even when she has to walk away from a potential client. It may not make sense to us on an analytical numbers perspective; it sounds like it was more a matter of the principle thing, and her being loyal to the channel that brought her to your attention and initial contact. Too bad, you missed-out on a good one.

[QUOTE=RegularGuy69;2745277]First of all, I can vouch for those reviews and tell you that you missed-out. I have shared time and companionship with Lee O'Mally and she is a sweetheart, an absolutely top notch Provider, in super-fit physical condition and few dudes can keep up with her. You would need to take your vitamins and work-out to get in shape for her, or you may feel inadequate.

I am also on both P411 and IG, they each serve their purpose. IG is mostly a South Florida board, though it is nice when those ladies come up to Central Florida. Which I think Lee is doing this next weekend. It is a little odd that you brought this issue to USASG to air; but hey, all information is helpful for our fellow Hobbyists to weigh.

I have not talked to Lee about your comments, but I can tell you that she is a very principled and loyal woman. She respects the companies that help market her services. Apparently even when she has to walk away from a potential client. It may not make sense to us on an analytical numbers perspective; it sounds like it was more a matter of the principle thing, and her being loyal to the channel that brought her to your attention and initial contact. Too bad, you missed-out on a good one.[/QUOTE]Yes, I brought it here so other hobbyist can learn from my "mistake". I'm of the mindset that you can review someone, even if you haven't seen them. Contrary to what TER might say. And to me, she's a bad provider. I signed up for IG and paid for it just to meet her. IG brought her the business, P411 was just a means of verification and ease of communication. I get having principles but. Nobody in their right mind should have an issue with the way things went. It's absurd and kind of a offensive to tell me that because I didn't contact her on IG FIRST I should pay $150/ hr more, when I signed up and paid for IG just for her.

Don't feel like I missed out on anything.

I also enjoyed her text saying she can't wait to tell P411 that I didn't keep my appointment REQUEST... it was a request, not a confirmation, and she told me the time I requested wouldn't work any ways lol. I'd gladly show up and see her this Thursday at 5pm... seems to me she's not the one keeping it because someone asked her to honor her rates.

[QUOTE=Lpmrhahn;2744925]What is wrong with the women in Florida? I"m about done with this hobby till I move back home.

This chick [URL]http://www.preferred411.com/p188316[/URL]... smoking hot, actually insanely good reviews. On my search around the web for her I noticed she was on IndepentGirls, which I hadn't heard of before since we don't use it in NC, but decided to join be / see the ladies on there give really good discounts to paying members of the site. Plus it's only $25, so what's it hurt? While that was being processed I went ahead and sent Lee a message on p411 to get the ball rolling, and she could go ahead and see that I have multiple versifications on there, even though I'm new to IG. She gets back to me via text later and says she won't honor her IG prices because I contacted her on p411 first. WTF? I paid my dues like every other VIP member on the site, WTF? Things went south after that, including her now threatening to send screenshots of our texts to IG and P411 to show them how I was trying to game the system. Sure lady go ahead, lets see how far that gets you. I'm sure both P411 would like to know that you offer IG members a $150 discount an hour, and IG would probably like to know that you just told one of the people helping to pay their bills that you won't honor the price you have listed for VIP members.

Women down here are crazy.[/QUOTE]I had a appt with this one for her visit but I think I will cancel. Sounds like a *****. Thanks for the report. So she loses on you're money and now mine. Any crazy ***** willing to screen shot your shit and send it out can go to hell.

[QUOTE=Lpmrhahn;2745323]. . . . I'm of the mindset that you can review someone, even if you haven't seen them. . . . IG brought her the business, P411 was just a means of verification and ease of communication. . . because I didn't contact her on IG FIRST I should pay $150/ hr more . . . I also enjoyed her text saying she can't wait to tell P411 that I didn't keep my appointment REQUEST... I'd gladly show up and see her this Thursday at 5pm... seems to me she's not the one keeping it because someone asked her to honor her rates.[/QUOTE]Lpmrhahn:

You seem like a good SM, so I am sure you are speaking honestly from your perspective and this experience. But, you mentioned that you were new to IG, just joined to see her; I am quite familiar with their system and customs. Typically, you must send a PM through the IG system to establish your identity to another member of IG (Similar to USASG). Because there is nothing to stop a guy from calling a lady and saying they are "JohnDoe" an IG-VIP member and demanding the VIP discount rate, even if they are not "JohnDoe". Most Independent ladies and Agencies in South Florida are careful about this procedure, because it is the Hobbyists dues that fund their site, advertising for ladies is "free". If you made initial contact via P411 and then just told her via P411 or text messages that you were an IG-VIP, she would not have had a way to verify that unless you sent her a PM through the IG system, including information identifiable from your other correspondence.

Anyway, sounds like a communications issue trying to verify and keep everyone safe. As a Provider, her reputation is stellar, and I can speak as someone who has seen her. O'Mally is real, she is safe, she has the ability to go beyond my normal GFE desires and provides PSE action for those seeking to cruise the isles. And she is coming to Orlando this weekend.

[URL]http://independentgirls.com/indiboard/index.php/topic/465194-omally-in-the-north-muscular-milf/[/URL]

You guys can PM me through USASG if you have any questions about O'Mally.

[QUOTE=RegularGuy69;2745516]Lpmrhahn:

You seem like a good SM, so I am sure you are speaking honestly from your perspective and this experience. But, you mentioned that you were new to IG, just joined to see her; I am quite familiar with their system and customs. Typically, you must send a PM through the IG system to establish your identity to another member of IG (Similar to USASG). Because there is nothing to stop a guy from calling a lady and saying they are "JohnDoe" an IG-VIP member and demanding the VIP discount rate, even if they are not "JohnDoe". Most Independent ladies and Agencies in South Florida are careful about this procedure, because it is the Hobbyists dues that fund their site, advertising for ladies is "free". If you made initial contact via P411 and then just told her via P411 or text messages that you were an IG-VIP, she would not have had a way to verify that unless you sent her a PM through the IG system, including information identifiable from your other correspondence.

Anyway, sounds like a communications issue trying to verify and keep everyone safe. As a Provider, her reputation is stellar, and I can speak as someone who has seen her. O'Mally is real, she is safe, she has the ability to go beyond my normal GFE desires and provides PSE action for those seeking to cruise the isles. And she is coming to Orlando this weekend.

[URL]http://independentgirls.com/indiboard/index.php/topic/465194-omally-in-the-north-muscular-milf/[/URL]

You guys can PM me through USASG if you have any questions about O'Mally.[/QUOTE] You are correct RG, O'Mally is one of the best dates you will ever have. I have been in the hobby since 2003 and have visited with her more times than I can shake a stick. I always go back to her so I can be constantly reminded about what a good time really feels like! I would have to say without a doubt she's my ATF in many ways. Ease of scheduling, her place is always super cleannwith great ambiance, and she delivers like no one I've ever been with.

Met Ms Anna last week. All the other reports are accurate, I think they are all positive. Bbbf, DFK, CVS, great value. She's no spinner, but if you like curvy you need to see her. Her boobs are spectacular. Nice areola, pendulous, and just big.

Don't have time for more now. Thanks Anna.

Tony.

[QUOTE=Hawkeye49;2745650]You are correct RG, O'Mally is one of the best dates you will ever have. I have been in the hobby since 2003 and have visited with her more times than I can shake a stick. I always go back to her so I can be constantly reminded about what a good time really feels like! I would have to say without a doubt she's my ATF in many ways. Ease of scheduling, her place is always super cleannwith great ambiance, and she delivers like no one I've ever been with.[/QUOTE]I 2nd. That also from experience. O'Mally is one of the best dates anyone can spend time with. And with respect, the one complaining did initially establish contact with her from her P411 account before becoming a member of IG. Overall, it may be frustrating for the hobbyist when discovering different rates from a provider from another forum but it's not like O'Mally is hurting at all from this hobby. O'Mally is legendary and she is extremely open-minded and nearly likes everything.

[QUOTE=DoubleTF;2745684]I 2nd. That also from experience. O'Mally is one of the best dates anyone can spend time with. And with respect, the one complaining did initially establish contact with her from her P411 account before becoming a member of IG. Overall, it may be frustrating for the hobbyist when discovering different rates from a provider from another forum but it's not like O'Mally is hurting at all from this hobby. O'Mally is legendary and she is extremely open-minded and nearly likes everything.[/QUOTE]False. I signed up for ig and paid to be a VIP before I contacted her, as stated in my initial post. I appreciate your thoughts, but get the facts correct. I only used p411 because that is how I could easily be verified, I did everything she asked to get an appointment with her, and paid for VIP.

Maybe I'm missing out, and I'm glad the rest of you had a great time with her, my intentions for this post were just to show. The community her behavior and attitude, and lack of willingness to uphold her posted rates. To the guy who is cancelling. Do what you want, I wouldn't, you're going to have a great time with a hot woman. I'd still see her if she let me. At the rates she has posted.

Posted from mobile sorry for any typos.

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Saw Sascha recently at her incall location near I drive. She is a lot of fun and I enjoyed an hour dream with her. A rubenesque body with huge natural boobs. If you're a boob lover, go see her. Also, if you like great BBBJCIM (who doesn't? Go see her. In fact, I liked it so much that was what we did for most of our hour. Next time, I'll definitely dream about more activities. SM can PM me for more details.

Thank you for all of those who passed me along kaitlyn loves' contact info. As I mentioned I paid her a visit almost 3 years ago. I left a very descriptive review of what my encounter was like with her. Like all of my reviews I don't particularly care for "niceness". I have always told it like it was and if there was something inappropriate that I would rather mention in a private message I have done so. This board has helped me find great ladies and in doing so I try my best to give the best info out there that I can even though it may be lengthy at times. That being said, I got a hold of Kaitlyn this afternoon and after some discussion about time and place, she then asked for my handle on USA. I gave her something about our last session nearly 3 years ago to remember me by. She said she remembered who I was. Then she mentioned that I gave a "misleading review" and it was "not so nice". I told her it had been a considerable amount of time since we saw each other and that people change and that I wanted to see her again. She replied with a "Sorry but I don't want to see you". I replied with telling her that she can choose to see who ever she likes but that not seeing me because I posted a review that was misleading? Or not so nice?? Was not a good reason. I guess if it it wasn't praising her lackluster service then its misleading and not nice. This is a terrible mentality to have. Not to mention the guys that I got PM's about her, I told them to give her a shot. I mean nothing really surprises me too much in this hobby but she expressed this notion of professionalism when I met her and how certain things that providers do are bad for business. Yet when I give supposed "misleading review" she doesn't reach out to me in any way about what I wrote, yet she cares so much about professionalism and good business? My review of her was very descriptive and I gave you guys on here almost everything you needed to know to make your own decision about meeting her apart from some other minor reviews. I even left out the part about her asking for my damn ID to check my age. (was mentioned in PM) Instead of taking that moment to reflect on her service and how she could be better, she got bitter about it and choose to black list me because I gave an honest review about my account with her at that time.

Is this what ladies have come to doing? I mean I must be soo damn popular to have her risk seeing me and writing something bad about her LOL. In all seriousness I am sure this type of thing happens all the time. Maybe If I had tried to see her a couple months after our first session I could see more of her point, but 3 fucking years LOL. That review must have cut her that deep to not want to see me forever. The main reason I wanted to see her was because it had been so long and maybe this time she had a better idea of what she was doing (when we met she had only been in the game less than a year) and I could actually write about a great experience. She chose to hold my prior review against me as a reason to not see me. If you see her on the regular then that's cool, hopefully she does provide a great service for you. If you thought about seeing her just make sure you find some other way to verify yourself aside from giving out your handle, because obviously for this instance she will remember if you wrote something " bad" about her and your chance of seeing her again for a possible round 2 will almost certainly be in vain. I still stand by my original review of her AND I even stated in that review that I would be willing to see her again if her rates were lower (which now she has lowered her rates). I just don't like how some ladies are promoting this "don't have anything good to say about me, they don't write it" ideology. That is exactly what this board is for, for us to write about our experiences. Regardless if it's GOOD or BAD and if it means I'm loosing the chance to see that same provider again for a second shot. Then so be it.

I will still continue to write my about experiences here, on this board. You guys on here know how to smell out the BS in what people write. I have only written about less than a handful of what can be called " a bad review" on here. Most of my experiences have been positive and I have written about those. However when I come across sour apples, I will mention them as well.

Ladies, if you are willing to accept the positive, you have to also be willing to accept the negative, and it is just that simple. I hope this helps anyone on the board who reads it. Just felt like that needed to be said. Stay safe.

Regards.

SDG.

[QUOTE=SDragonGuy;2809335]
I will still continue to write my about experiences here, on this board. You guys on here know how to smell out the BS in what people write. I have only written about less than a handful of what can be called " a bad review" on here. Most of my experiences have been positive and I have written about those. However when I come across sour apples, I will mention them as well.

SDG.[/QUOTE]Of course your handle on here will be used against you, lots I don't understand, some things I think are just goofy. Of all my complaints I think Luxsa handled it best. I never took them up on the offer to 'make it up' to me, but I kept it in mind a few years down the road when visiting their new location. I think the whole Avalon vetting process on here is bullshit and some guys who have enjoyed that pussy will most likely catch feelings, but who gives a shit. I thought this was 'our' club. Not theirs. Just my humble opinion.

[QUOTE=SDragonGuy;2809335]Thank you for all of those who passed me along kaitlyn loves' contact info. As I mentioned I paid her a visit almost 3 years ago. I left a very descriptive review of what my encounter was like with her. Like all of my reviews I don't particularly care for "niceness". I have always told it like it was and if there was something inappropriate that I would rather mention in a private message I have done so. This board has helped me find great ladies and in doing so I try my best to give the best info out there that I can even though it may be lengthy at times. That being said, I got a hold of Kaitlyn this afternoon and after some discussion about time and place, she then asked for my handle on USA. I gave her something about our last session nearly 3 years ago to remember me by. She said she remembered who I was. Then she mentioned that I gave a "misleading review" and it was "not so nice". I told her it had been a considerable amount of time since we saw each other and that people change and that I wanted to see her again. She replied with a "Sorry but I don't want to see you". I replied with telling her that she can choose to see who ever she likes but that not seeing me because I posted a review that was misleading? Or not so nice?? Was not a good reason. I guess if it it wasn't praising her lackluster service then its misleading and not nice. This is a terrible mentality to have. Not to mention the guys that I got PM's about her, I told them to give her a shot. I mean nothing really surprises me too much in this hobby but she expressed this notion of professionalism when I met her and how certain things that providers do are bad for business. Yet when I give supposed "misleading review" she doesn't reach out to me in any way about what I wrote, yet she cares so much about professionalism and good business? My review of her was very descriptive and I gave you guys on here almost everything you needed to know to make your own decision about meeting her apart from some other minor reviews. I even left out the part about her asking for my damn ID to check my age. (was mentioned in PM) Instead of taking that moment to reflect on her service and how she could be better, she got bitter about it and choose to black list me because I gave an honest review about my account with her at that time.

Is this what ladies have come to doing? I mean I must be soo damn popular to have her risk seeing me and writing something bad about her LOL. In all seriousness I am sure this type of thing happens all the time. Maybe If I had tried to see her a couple months after our first session I could see more of her point, but 3 fucking years LOL. That review must have cut her that deep to not want to see me forever. The main reason I wanted to see her was because it had been so long and maybe this time she had a better idea of what she was doing (when we met she had only been in the game less than a year) and I could actually write about a great experience. She chose to hold my prior review against me as a reason to not see me. If you see her on the regular then that's cool, hopefully she does provide a great service for you. If you thought about seeing her just make sure you find some other way to verify yourself aside from giving out your handle, because obviously for this instance she will remember if you wrote something " bad" about her and your chance of seeing her again for a possible round 2 will almost certainly be in vain. I still stand by my original review of her AND I even stated in that review that I would be willing to see her again if her rates were lower (which now she has lowered her rates). I just don't like how some ladies are promoting this "don't have anything good to say about me, they don't write it" ideology. That is exactly what this board is for, for us to write about our experiences. Regardless if it's GOOD or BAD and if it means I'm loosing the chance to see that same provider again for a second shot. Then so be it.

I will still continue to write my about experiences here, on this board. You guys on here know how to smell out the BS in what people write. I have only written about less than a handful of what can be called " a bad review" on here. Most of my experiences have been positive and I have written about those. However when I come across sour apples, I will mention them as well.

Ladies, if you are willing to accept the positive, you have to also be willing to accept the negative, and it is just that simple. I hope this helps anyone on the board who reads it. Just felt like that needed to be said. Stay safe.

Regards.

SDG.[/QUOTE]Some providers won't see you if you look at them funny or haggle for more time (even if you explicitly say you're using the extra time to help them. Esp since they're new). Bella only saw me once a few months back, but be / see I gave her a funny look (in my opinion, she looks slightly better in person than in the photos she posts which make her look really crappy), she didn't believe me when I told her she looked "different but better". Personally, that's technically still false advertising, but hey, criticism is tough to take, so don't let that bring you down.