Massage Parlor Reports

[QUOTE=Wetlines;2263139]Recently saw for the first time Body By Beth. She is in the Baldwin Park area. She is very pleasant and average in appearance. Her facility is upstairs in her home in a really big virtually vacate room. Massage average plus and no problem with getting fully relieved. Nothing too exciting and nothing to cause me to hurry back. But it was a pleasant experience with no residual frustration. I rate it an infield single.[/QUOTE]Well put, Wetlines. My experience exactly. I went, I came, I left. Relieved but not fully satisfied. I doubt if I'll return, but then again, I wouldn't say you shouldn't. YMMV.

[URL]http://orlando.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/bodybybeth/9830217[/URL]

In a strip center at Kirkman and Conroy by the Publix. It is located at the end of the center, did not get the name of the place. Chose the 1/2 for. 4 and paid. 3 for a tip. Shower is available, but it is not a table shower. Older average looking lady with decent massage skills. On the flip she provided a HJ which was good. Have been to this place multiple times, one issue is the lack of privacy since the walls do not go up to the ceiling and you can hear everything. Have received more at times but it is hit or miss. If you keep expectations within reason, I can recommend.

[QUOTE=ButchKid;2263937]Jenna's back, gentlemen! This is the Jenna who used to be in business with Tara Marie in Maitland near the Mercedes dealership. Jenna left and, shortly after, had a baby. She now operates out a home in a gated community in Lake Mary, but she is currently searching for a suitable office in the Longwood, Maitland or Winter Park areas. For the last few months, she was seeing only existing clients, but she just resumed advertising on BP two days ago. The link below is to her first ad.

Jenna is a top-notch provider. She is accommodating, pleasant, and softly satisfying. She is a bit larger than some might like, but I consider her pleasingly plump and plumply perfect, with the accent on the pleasingly and perfect parts.

Will I see her again? You better believe it!

[URL]http://orlando.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/massage-by-jenna/11462828[/URL][/QUOTE]Di you leave happy? Rate? Roaming allowed?

[QUOTE=ButchKid;2263950]Well put, Wetlines. My experience exactly. I went, I came, I left. Relieved but not fully satisfied. I doubt if I'll return, but then again, I wouldn't say you shouldn't. YMMV.

[URL]http://orlando.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/bodybybeth/9830217[/URL][/QUOTE]Decent experience got better after a few visits.

[QUOTE=ButchKid;2255462]This is one of the bat-shit-crazy Heathers, based on what I've read in past reviews. Guys have been posting forever that they TOFFT and she is a waste of time and money. Psycho, they said, which is pretty funny because lately she's been advertising as psychic. Anyway, I noticed, much earlier this year, a number of posts saying she was dependable and good, exactly the opposite of previous years of posts.

So my question is, what's up with Heather? Is she worth seeing? If she's so bad, why does she stay in business? Is she just crazy and you never know what you might get? Or is nothing ever going to happen with her? Is she truly so BSC you must avoid her at all costs? I've been salivating at her ads for years, but I've always held back because of her, until recently, consistently bad reviews. Has she been born again?

[URL]http://orlando.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/ill-take-you-there-destination-bliss/8046779[/URL][/QUOTE]This very complicated like Heather. She stays in business because she does give a good massage. Yes, she can be crazier than a loony bird. Some of us that know her for years, there can be a reward. If I go see Heather today it is because I want a good massage and expect NOTHING! I can get a surprise.

[QUOTE=ButchKid;2263937]Jenna's back, gentlemen! This is the Jenna who used to be in business with Tara Marie in Maitland near the Mercedes dealership. Jenna left and, shortly after, had a baby. She now operates out a home in a gated community in Lake Mary, but she is currently searching for a suitable office in the Longwood, Maitland or Winter Park areas. For the last few months, she was seeing only existing clients, but she just resumed advertising on BP two days ago. The link below is to her first ad.

Jenna is a top-notch provider. She is accommodating, pleasant, and softly satisfying. She is a bit larger than some might like, but I consider her pleasingly plump and plumply perfect, with the accent on the pleasingly and perfect parts.

Will I see her again? You better believe it!

[URL]http://orlando.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/massage-by-jenna/11462828[/URL][/QUOTE]Jenna must trust you. I have had very good luck in the past with Jenna especially before she had the office in Lake Mary. A very good massage with HE and OTC roaming. TShe has been known to open the menu alittle more.

Heather. Psychic Massage. She just keeps getting more interesting.

[URL]http://orlando.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/psychic-massage/2706117[/URL]

[QUOTE=EnglishPub;2264312]Jenna must trust you. I have had very good luck in the past with Jenna especially before she had the office in Lake Mary. A very good massage with HE and OTC roaming. TShe has been known to open the menu alittle more.[/QUOTE]I saw her a few years ago. SHe is pretty. She provided a fantastic massage. Her attitude was nice. She shows and shoves her beautiful cleavage in your face.

But no happiness. That was my experience.

I had the opportunity to visit Luxsa yesterday. I saw Delilah and overall had a good experience. I'm still on the fence regarding body rub establishments in regards to value but still some research to do. I will repeat.

KC.

[QUOTE=Gruglok;2263892]But hey, everyone has their kinks right? So if this is for you, here ya go.

[URL]http://orlando.backpage.com/BodyRubs/hot-and-erotic-massage-by-paris/11461668[/URL]

[ATTACH=CONFIG]351006[/ATTACH][ATTACH=CONFIG]351007[/ATTACH].[/QUOTE]Kinda looks like the FUGLY Latina version of Roseanne Barr.

[QUOTE=KingCasanova;2264870]I had the opportunity to visit Luxsa yesterday. I saw Delilah and overall had a good experience. I'm still on the fence regarding body rub establishments in regards to value but still some research to do. I will repeat.

KC.[/QUOTE]I tried visiting luxa for their specials yesterday. I called Natasha's number and went through the "appointment" process, drove all the way out to kirkman and called again because I never received the text address as promised. So when I called again the same woman on the phone went through the whole appointment speel as if I had never called earlier (20 minutes), was promised a texted address again and never received it! LOL.

Awesomeness. I struck out all day long yesterday all the way down the list though, so maybe it was just a bad day. Even knocked on a rub spots door and heard them clammoring around inside but they never opened up. I couldn't give my money away hard as I tried.

Went to a few places on OBT but were busy at the time and was told to come back later so I decided to stop by Sunflower and play for awhile. Took the half hour and a different girl. Owner, cici was not there at the time. This asian girl wasn't' bad looking with a nice pair of tits. Like to play with cici because she loves to play and and has a great menu to offer customers. My massage was pretty good with this different girl and was able to roam freely under the clothes. Got her to take her top off and suck on the small but long nipples. She then started to play with my joystick and added some oil to make it nice and slippery. Boy she seemed to enjoy herself and I was able to keep sucking her nipples until the deed was done. Had a good experience with this girl. Forgot her name but did a nice job for the money. She mentioned not to say anything to any other girl, because they may get angry especially the owner. Will repeat at this location.

Unless others are just not giving their 2 cents, seems like you always get a lot from CiCi so I see why you keep posting about her. But you can enjoy her because I will not be going back. I went and at the front desk she said she remembered me then in the session she draped me and acted like she had amnesia. I just enjoyed the massage but for the first time I following so of yall rule about "no tip if you don't touch the tip". I told her since she did not remember me then she does not remember that I use to give her a tip and jetted. Price for the hr was more then i paid last time so she can just consider the tip was included.

[QUOTE=Taster6969;2261386]Passing by after work and saw that sunflower is still open even after they just got busted a few weeks ago. Stopped in and took the half hour for $60. And got cici. Had her before and gets the job done. Massage was pretty strong with plenty of roaming Under her shorts and small underwear. Was able to play with her pussy until she asked me to turn over. She went for the oil and got me nice and hard. Kept playing with her pussy while she went to work and after a few lifted her tee shirt and played with her tits. Did't take long for me to pop and then a quick clean up. Left her a good tip and left. I guess it's business as usual at this place. Not bad.[/QUOTE]

Hello all,

MP's aren't usually my thing, probably won't be active that much.

She's been reviewed before however she does an excellent job at what she does (Note: saw her several months ago). The one thing that did kinda irk me was how close proximity it was to others. However there were no issues with this, she puts you completely at ease and is a wonderful conversationalist and gives an amazing body rub. Damage was somewhat high however in was worth it. Will repeat when a body rub is needed!

[QUOTE=StevePope;2265051]Kinda looks like the FUGLY Latina version of Roseanne Barr.[/QUOTE]I would not go there if it was free LOL.

[QUOTE=StevePope;2265051]Kinda looks like the FUGLY Latina version of Roseanne Barr.[/QUOTE]Well, at 50, not many women look very good. I certainly would not pay for that one. Might take it home if last one left at the bar and I was desperate. Maybe she has good oral skills?

I was looking for a little TLC last night so I made an appointment and did the 30 min flat rate. I intended on seeing Jasmine (whom I'd missed out on during a previous visit) but I decided on this beautiful blonde named Daisy because of her warm personality. Once we got to the room, we made ourselves comfortable and damn, what a body she had! Not only was she easy on the eyes, but she was incredibly easy to talk to. The massage was perfect; plenty of variation in her pressure and lots of teasing. She took care of me from head to toe, and everywhere in between. I'd probably say this was in my top 3 best sessions I've had. I'm not as well-off as some of you on the board, but I will DEFINTELY be back to see Daisy when I can (and Jasmine too at some point). Plus that shower session mentioned in Luxsa's last post certainly sounds intriguing.

Natasha, just a quick thank you for responding to my PMs. Your customer service is second-to-none and I can't say enough great things about Daisy.

If you go to the place next to sunflower (PAS), just know that the guys in the barbershop (boyfriends / management) is eyeballing the shit out of anything going on or out. A long curly hair Latinos was majig his way back and forth between the two last time I went.

[QUOTE=Taster6969;2266102]Went to a few places on OBT but were busy at the time and was told to come back later so I decided to stop by Sunflower and play for awhile. Took the half hour and a different girl. Owner, cici was not there at the time. This asian girl wasn't' bad looking with a nice pair of tits. Like to play with cici because she loves to play and and has a great menu to offer customers. My massage was pretty good with this different girl and was able to roam freely under the clothes. Got her to take her top off and suck on the small but long nipples. She then started to play with my joystick and added some oil to make it nice and slippery. Boy she seemed to enjoy herself and I was able to keep sucking her nipples until the deed was done. Had a good experience with this girl. Forgot her name but did a nice job for the money. She mentioned not to say anything to any other girl, because they may get angry especially the owner. Will repeat at this location.[/QUOTE]

Decided to try Luxsa again after a while last Thursday. Took advantage of their special rates. Easy to set up appointment with Natasha. Got directions to a temp location they were working from. I was pleasantly surprised when Jasmine opened the door. Nice petite spinner. Very pleasant and easy going. Took directions well and made sure I was happy. I was in a hurry and definitely left very happy. Will be back soon.

[QUOTE=LawDog17;2120458]Big Sky -- I wouldn't call any of them pyscho as my personal experiences have been all in all, not bad, in fact some have been really good. The red head, or yoga Heather, can be a little crazy, meaning she can warm and sexy on some days and hate men on other days and threaten to terminate your session. Etc. The Brown haired Heather or Winter Springs Heather, is fun and knows how to give a massage, it is just that she can be cold, detached or robotical. Some guys don't like that (me included). The other two you have hit the nail on the head. For those who know the back stories on Yoga and Winter Springs, we understand why they are the way they are and tolerate them for these characteristics. But for those who don't know it is a little like watching someone stick their tongue on metal flagpole during winter. You know what is going to happen and you know it is going to hurt but you can't stop looking and laughing that somehow they didn't see it coming. Hope that helps. As always, YMMV, so take a ride on the crazy train and see what we are talking about. I just don't want to see some guy who has limited coin (not Jag-coin) get taken without knowing what he is getting himself into. -- Dog.[/QUOTE]Thanks guys. I have been RTFF for a while and was also confused about which Heather was really which Heather, Big Sky! I figured out MILF princess, but never got around to it, and might be happy I didn't after RTFF. I [I]THINK[/I] I had a chance to see Yoga Heather a little while ago (in WP). Seemed a little "off", but gave an amazing massage, very sensual at times, though no extra. But it was a first visit and a while since I mongered. I've been in and out of the game (and honestly, before I found this board and I just went for therapeutic massage). I plan to go back and hopefully throw some signals and hope for the best.

OK. I was blasted a bit a little while ago for asking for some advice. Caveat #1 - I DID RTFF, but was hoping for some newer intel or just opinions. Caveat #2 - I just found this site and will post as my experiences warrant in the future. However, in order to help, I will provide some experiences in the past, whether still around or not.

AMP on Lee Road HP. Stopped in for a treat and mamasan quickly brought me to a room after collecting house fee (6?) SP was middle aged, not bad looking, but didn't make my jaw drop. Some light roaming on legs and ass. I left satisfied with good service and. 4 lighter. Probably wouldn't repeat (but I think they're closed now).

MBS. Wow and wow and wow. Have seen a few providers here and was always impressed. After house fee, I prefer not to discuss menus and tend to pre-tip and enjoy the service. And haven't been short-changed in the process (so that's good). Great girls, good convo, always left happy, even doubly happy once.

Hailey. From MBS to PAS to independent, my ATF. Great personality, great body, always aimed to please, tasted great, and very accommodating (knows my preference and called to reschedule when Aunt Flo made an early visit). God, I wish wish wish she hadn't retired. If she ever comes back, fellas, call quickly because she is known and those of us who know will book ASAP. Always left happy, sometimes doubly happy, and always on cloud 9. Never rushed, always felt welcomed and enjoyed.

Hope to have some more info on recent experiences with Rose on Lake Howell and Yoga Heather soon.

If anyone is interested in some info in Atlanta or NOLA, I have a little knowledge there.

Did I read your reports right- all three places / providers you've reviewed are not in business any more?

[QUOTE=BobbyGreen;2267803]OK. I was blasted a bit a little while ago for asking for some advice. Caveat #1 - I DID RTFF, but was hoping for some newer intel or just opinions. Caveat #2 - I just found this site and will post as my experiences warrant in the future. However, in order to help, I will provide some experiences in the past, whether still around or not.

AMP on Lee Road HP. Stopped in for a treat and mamasan quickly brought me to a room after collecting house fee (6?) SP was middle aged, not bad looking, but didn't make my jaw drop. Some light roaming on legs and ass. I left satisfied with good service and. 4 lighter. Probably wouldn't repeat (but I think they're closed now).

MBS. Wow and wow and wow. Have seen a few providers here and was always impressed. After house fee, I prefer not to discuss menus and tend to pre-tip and enjoy the service. And haven't been short-changed in the process (so that's good). Great girls, good convo, always left happy, even doubly happy once.

Hailey. From MBS to PAS to independent, my ATF. Great personality, great body, always aimed to please, tasted great, and very accommodating (knows my preference and called to reschedule when Aunt Flo made an early visit). God, I wish wish wish she hadn't retired. If she ever comes back, fellas, call quickly because she is known and those of us who know will book ASAP. Always left happy, sometimes doubly happy, and always on cloud 9. Never rushed, always felt welcomed and enjoyed.

Hope to have some more info on recent experiences with Rose on Lake Howell and Yoga Heather soon.

If anyone is interested in some info in Atlanta or NOLA, I have a little knowledge there.[/QUOTE]

Recently returned to this AMP. Have used frequently for several years.

Met by slim friendly 30's Chinese girl. Paid for for 30 minutes $. 5.

Girls was attractive, slim with Fake boobs (7+) and gave a well above massage.

Climbed up, knee between my legs lots of contact and pretty sexy.

Flipped me over, lots of roaming under. Very relaxed and then had full menu for $. 4.

The quality varies, but there is always action here.

Will return.

PM for details.

RJ.

Any updates on this place?

[URL]http://orlando.backpage.com/HealthServices/come-get-a-massage-by-a-beautiful-woman/11001671[/URL]

There was some discussion a while back about their bait and switch practices but haven't read anything lately. Is it still just the one gal working there?

Has anyone ever been to healthy body massage on conroy road?? I passed it many times and was wondering hjow it is. Thanks.

[QUOTE=RossJames;2269990]Recently returned to this AMP. Have used frequently for several years.

Met by slim friendly 30's Chinese girl. Paid for for 30 minutes $. 5.

Girls was attractive, slim with Fake boobs (7+) and gave a well above massage.

Climbed up, knee between my legs lots of contact and pretty sexy.

Flipped me over, lots of roaming under. Very relaxed and then had full menu for $. 4.

The quality varies, but there is always action here.

Will return.

PM for details.

RJ.[/QUOTE]Hi Ross Am I going crazy did you mean $150 for a half and $140 Because that's what $. 5 and $. 4 represent. Or maybe I'm totally out of it and it anbd what you wrote does represent 50 and 40.

Do I need to go back to monger school?? LOL.

Cheers.

[QUOTE=Drexx21;2271136]Hi Ross Am I going crazy did you mean $150 for a half and $140 Because that's what $. 5 and $. 4 represent. Or maybe I'm totally out of it and it anbd what you wrote does represent 50 and 40.

Do I need to go back to monger school?? LOL.

Cheers.[/QUOTE]Does it really serve a purpose to use this coded format when mentioning donation amounts? I'm pretty sure that I've been guilty of doing it in the past, but I attribute that to just going with the flow of what everyone else is doing. After reading this post though, I have to say that I'm really curious to know the point of it all, as now it just seems downright pointless. All it seems to do is create confusion over what the dollar amount really was. Does it somehow make our posts any less incriminating if donation amounts are not stated the typical way?

[QUOTE=Pinoboy;2271187]Does it really serve a purpose to use this coded format when mentioning donation amounts? I'm pretty sure that I've been guilty of doing it in the past, but I attribute that to just going with the flow of what everyone else is doing. After reading this post though, I have to say that I'm really curious to know the point of it all, as now it just seems downright pointless. All it seems to do is create confusion over what the dollar amount really was. Does it somehow make our posts any less incriminating if donation amounts are not stated the typical way?[/QUOTE]Pinoboy, I agree with you on this one. Why don't we just use numbers and forget the dollar signs sure would make things easy. Besides dollar signs signifies money. Example: 100/200 or 60/150/200.

Hey Jetter! Glad you came back nice to see some of the clients form awhile back return to show us some love. Glad you enjoyed your session w / jasmine. Hope you come soon!

[QUOTE=Jetter777;2267351]Decided to try Luxsa again after a while last Thursday. Took advantage of their special rates. Easy to set up appointment with Natasha. Got directions to a temp location they were working from. I was pleasantly surprised when Jasmine opened the door. Nice petite spinner. Very pleasant and easy going. Took directions well and made sure I was happy. I was in a hurry and definitely left very happy. Will be back soon.[/QUOTE]

I'm actually almost ecstatic to see this review! It's about time Daisy finally had a review hit the board!! It's longggg over due Thank you veryyy much Bam on your kind words about my service! I try hard to please all of you w / in my capabilities LOL. Guys, please be patient w me when replying to pm's. I WILL respond but not necessarily same day. If it's for a same day appt please call me instead! Stay safe hope to see you all real soon!! Meow!!

Natasha xoxo.

[QUOTE=Bamf210;2266383]I was looking for a little TLC last night so I made an appointment and did the 30 min flat rate. I intended on seeing Jasmine (whom I'd missed out on during a previous visit) but I decided on this beautiful blonde named Daisy because of her warm personality. Once we got to the room, we made ourselves comfortable and damn, what a body she had! Not only was she easy on the eyes, but she was incredibly easy to talk to. The massage was perfect; plenty of variation in her pressure and lots of teasing. She took care of me from head to toe, and everywhere in between. I'd probably say this was in my top 3 best sessions I've had. I'm not as well-off as some of you on the board, but I will DEFINTELY be back to see Daisy when I can (and Jasmine too at some point). Plus that shower session mentioned in Luxsa's last post certainly sounds intriguing.

Natasha, just a quick thank you for responding to my PMs. Your customer service is second-to-none and I can't say enough great things about Daisy.[/QUOTE]

I had the chance to sneak away for a bit last night, and decided to visit this establishment as per the recent review. Was 70 for hour and 50 for half. Only two girls were working.

The girl I saw told me her name but was tough to understand. Sounded like yellow, which is ironic of course. About a 5. 5 on my AMP scale. Thin with fake tits and a tattoo on her left breast. Thick pointy nips. Ok massage, not the best but not the worst. She did climb up and use a lot of forearm and knee action on my back.

Insisted multiple times she does not offer more. After massage and table shower, I talked her into an additional 15 minutes with standard HE. I tipped her an additional 40 for the added time and experience.

The other girl appeared a bit younger and more attractive. Would repeat in a pinch, but not a main attraction IMO.

So, I finally went so luxsa for the first time. It was a nice clean.

Establishment, and felt very safe, including parking. Scheduling was simple with.

No BS. Spent an hour with daisy, she was very attractive clean.

Fresh and sweet. She can hold a conversation and.

Provide great service. She went the extra mile with happiness to.

Make me left super happy. I won't go in detail here, but I will.

Repeat.

Looks 8.

Hygiene 10.

Nice healthy girl!!

Had the please of seeing Delilah yesterday at Luxsa. Nothing else can be added to what was said before. Delilah is just a special lady with warm and caring personality, in addition to the sexiness!

Thank you Natasha too!

[QUOTE=Jazak;2271410]Pinoboy, I agree with you on this one. Why don't we just use numbers and forget the dollar signs sure would make things easy. Besides dollar signs signifies money. Example: 100/200 or 60/150/200.[/QUOTE]I'm glad you and Pino are on board. Jazak I like your simplified adaptation to things. Simple numbers that's all they are and very clear. No dollar signs needed.

I stopped by Lotus Blossom on John Young just south of 528 while wandering this weekend. I don't find them on either BP or CL, but if you enter Lotus Blossom Massage Orlando into a search engine, you'll find them. No need to bother, however, as they aren't worth going to, unless you are just into straight massage, and even then, for $70 an hour, they aren't a great bargain.

I stopped in and there were two ladies in the reception room, an older Asian woman in a waiting chair and a Caucasian gal behind the desk, who greeted me. I said I wanted an hour and she gave me a form to fill out, then the Asian lady ushered me to a room and told me to undress and get under the sheet, face down. I undressed and lay on top of the sheet and a fugly-ugly younger Asian gal entered. She didn't ask me to get under the sheet, but she did cover my butt and proceeded to give me an almost whole-body massage, only missing the one small area I was most eager for her not to miss. As I left, there were two female customers waiting in the front room.

Of course I don't recommend this place, nor will I return.

Visiting end of the week, yes I RTFF, curious about Lavender and Lucky Dragon. Remembering some posts that both were FS but not guaranteed. Lots of inconclusive posts, I left very happy type thing, so if any one really has good guidance, PM me. Thanks. Guy in Prov RI, k-AMP of the world.

Hi Drexx21,

Sorry for the confusion. 50/140 my mistake.

Best,

RJ.

[QUOTE=Drexx21;2271136]Hi Ross Am I going crazy did you mean $150 for a half and $140 Because that's what $. 5 and $. 4 represent. Or maybe I'm totally out of it and it anbd what you wrote does represent 50 and 40.

Do I need to go back to monger school?? LOL.

Cheers.[/QUOTE]

Decided to stop by Spa Serenity yesterday after unsuccessfully trying to schedule an appointment with one of the SP who has very good reviews on this board. Anyway, this was my second time at this place. This time I saw an older asian lady- about 6/10 on looks, nice tight body. Mid to late30's maybe. After taking my clothes off she started of with a light body massage, after about 5 minutes I started dreaming about a CBJ, CFS. Before I knew it, I woke up and it was time to go. When it comes to AMP's, I think I will stick with this place for a while. Overall a pretty good dream. Total coin $. 70 including door fee.

[URL]http://orlando.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/central-floridas-finest-fullbody-rubs-we-promise-youll-be-coming-back-for-more/11406079[/URL]

It has been awhile since I have been to Luxsa. My only other experience last year was not very memorable. I have heard some good reviews and thought I would give it a try. I had the pleasure of seeing Lilly on Saturday. She has worked at MBS and another shop on Semoran. She is a petite girl with a sexy personality. Although she has a few rules, she makes up for it with an enthusiastic performance. I will be back to see her and Delilah.

Thanks Natasha.

Stay Safe,

TM.

[QUOTE=Whiskeysours;2270712]Any updates on this place?

[URL]http://orlando.backpage.com/HealthServices/come-get-a-massage-by-a-beautiful-woman/11001671[/URL]

There was some discussion a while back about their bait and switch practices but haven't read anything lately. Is it still just the one gal working there?[/QUOTE]I may check it out this week. The only real photo I see there is Jenn. Blonde. Brutally hot. I will let you know how it goes.