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I did a walk in after being surprised with some free time. Anyways, I had the chance to see Hailey there. Was in one of their new (well new to me, haven't stopped by in a while). She's cute, small, the spinner type. Massage isn't anything to write home about, though I was only doing 30 minutes. I pay with a card (who carry's cash anymore?) and that was a problem for her and while I was excited for the ending, it was a little disappointing as she wouldn't do what I asked for without cash. So my fault on that one. She still gave me a good finish and played with her chest that are probably B's. Next time I'm bringing cash for sure with me. I'll let you know what that experience is like when it happens.
[QUOTE=DerickSaunders;5866371]I did a walk in after being surprised with some free time. Anyways, I had the chance to see Hailey there. Was in one of their new (well new to me, haven't stopped by in a while). She's cute, small, the spinner type. Massage isn't anything to write home about, though I was only doing 30 minutes. I pay with a card (who carry's cash anymore?) and that was a problem for her and while I was excited for the ending, it was a little disappointing as she wouldn't do what I asked for without cash. So my fault on that one. She still gave me a good finish and played with her chest that are probably B's. Next time I'm bringing cash for sure with me. I'll let you know what that experience is like when it happens.[/QUOTE]Thanks for review. It's nice to hear about one at Panacea. So I'm assuming you tipped her via card. So there's a digital record of the transaction and she will have to pay taxes on it. That's why girls want cash and pretty much all of us carry cash. Cash is king.
As we don't know much of Hailey, can you tell us how much of a tip it requires for you to get her topless and be allowed to touch? And was it anything more than a HJ? Prior reports had made me think she is one who discusses tip before anything happens. And that tends to turn off many members here, making her less of a draw than she would be if she let the tip happen organically.
Thanks for giving more information if you are so inclined.
I got the chance to see Hunter again recently; as always she did an excellent job and did not disappoint! I was verified in 2019 and saw her a couple of times prior to the onset of COVID. However, I did not get to see her again until the end of 2021, and have seen her several times since then. In my opinion, she is a top notch and stellar provider, who I rate among the best, if not the best, in GR. She is intelligent, beautiful and keeps up a good conversation covering all varieties of topics.
She welcomed me with a big smile and hug to make me comfortable and relaxed, before she also got comfortable right away. Massage is of CMT quality and great, but with a lot of teasing. The flip is one to die for, and consists of a sensual massage, teasing and a slow build up to a very, very happy ending. There are advantages to seeing a provider for a long time, and it reflects in the comfort level and the extent of the services delivered. I am very happy to have reconnected with her. I highly recommend her. Like everything else in this hobby, YMMV.
[QUOTE=Gene2;5866704]Thanks for review. It's nice to hear about one at Panacea. So I'm assuming you tipped her via card. So there's a digital record of the transaction and she will have to pay taxes on it. That's why girls want cash and pretty much all of us carry cash. Cash is king.
As we don't know much of Hailey, can you tell us how much of a tip it requires for you to get her topless and be allowed to touch? And was it anything more than a HJ? Prior reports had made me think she is one who discusses tip before anything happens. And that tends to turn off many members here, making her less of a draw than she would be if she let the tip happen organically.
Thanks for giving more information if you are so inclined.[/QUOTE]She quoted me once 60 for he and 60 for topless.
100 gets both. I passed and left.
Did a walk in at Panacea and got Chloe. She's cute and reminds me of Emma Kenney. She's a bit thicker and definitely not a spinner if that's what you're looking for. I'm guess she is mid 20's. Decent massage and he on the flip. No mention of tip.
[QUOTE=Gene2;5866704]Thanks for review. It's nice to hear about one at Panacea. So I'm assuming you tipped her via card. So there's a digital record of the transaction and she will have to pay taxes on it. That's why girls want cash and pretty much all of us carry cash. Cash is king.
As we don't know much of Hailey, can you tell us how much of a tip it requires for you to get her topless and be allowed to touch? And was it anything more than a HJ? Prior reports had made me think she is one who discusses tip before anything happens. And that tends to turn off many members here, making her less of a draw than she would be if she let the tip happen organically.
Thanks for giving more information if you are so inclined.[/QUOTE]The problem with credit card tipping on the MP credit card machine, the MP is has to pay transaction fees that could be up to 2. 5% plus the MP pays the tax if the provider is not getting a 1099.
Deducting the transaction fee and tax from the tip is a headache for the book keeper. It's likely that the MP keeps a percentage of the tip for the headache.
The smart providers can take a credit card using their phone, they will need a checking account for this to happen.
The down side is she now has your personal information and she might lose her government assistance because she makes too much money.
Gene2 is right, cash is king. Hit the ATM before you go see any ho and only bring in the money you're willing to spend.
[QUOTE=Benz1;5867015]The problem with credit card tipping on the MP credit card machine, the MP is has to pay transaction fees that could be up to 2. 5% plus the MP pays the tax if the provider is not getting a 1099.
Deducting the transaction fee and tax from the tip is a headache for the book keeper. It's likely that the MP keeps a percentage of the tip for the headache.
The smart providers can take a credit card using their phone, they will need a checking account for this to happen.
The down side is she now has your personal information and she might lose her government assistance because she makes too much money.
Gene2 is right, cash is king. Hit the ATM before you go see any ho and only bring in the money you're willing to spend.[/QUOTE]Why go through the hassle of burner phones and leave a electronic trail by using card. Cash is the only way to go imo.
[QUOTE=Stonecoldstan;5867061]Why go through the hassle of burner phones and leave a electronic trail by using card. Cash is the only way to go imo.[/QUOTE]The reason MPs are so popular, No burner phone needed to walk in and hopefully get some action.
Sorry this is a late post. Life kinda got in the way!
I used to read of these guys that got to visit a provider that were training a new girl. The thought of that has always turned me on. I have asked around, and I usually find out about the new girls right after they go solo. That's not what I was looking for.
After two of the latest missed opportunities, I happened to get a message from Jaye. She had a new girl she was training, and she asked if I would help her learn the ropes. I jumped at the chance, and scheduled for the next morning.
I walked in and was greeted by Jaye with a great big hug, and she stepped back to introduce me to Mandy. Mandy is AA, about 5"-5" with a beautiful smile and a muscular ass. I knew I was in for some fun.
They left while I got comfortable, and came back in with some gentle music playing. Jaye knows I like a little bit of warm oil, so they got some out and went to work on me. They got comfortable right away although Jaye was slightly more so. They each started on opposite ends of me.
Now I have written about Jaye already, and I enjoy her massages very much, but for now, I will concentrate on Mandy. She is pretty quiet, which I understand. But her touch is "knowing" already. She has a way of finding a knot and concentrating on it quite well. She has a medium firm pressure that I really liked.
Jaye worked her way down, and Mandy worked her way up, and they met in the middle and took good care of my ass for a good while which I always enjoy. Mandy was kind enough to include my arms and hands in her massage. Something often overlooked. It was relaxing for sure.
On the flip, I was able to get a good look at them both. Jaye has definitely been taking care of her body, and Mandy is definitely tight! Of course my hands went directly to their asses, and I was not disappointed in either one of them although Mandy did not get quite as comfortable. I am certain she will before long at all.
The four handed finish was spectacular. Jaye knows how I like to be handled, and she showed Mandy who took the guidance very well. My hands went from asses to nipples and back again. And the attention paid to me and my body never stopped. When I finished, I was totally relaxed. Just what I needed after the weekend I had.
So in summary, Mandy is hot. She is a former dancer and it shows. Her ass is fantastic, her nipples are nice and squeezable, and a good handful of tits for sure. She is still shy, and quiet, but given a few good monger visits, she will be a natural at this. Together or separate, I would recommend both.
Play safe!
Shaw.
[URL]https://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/massage/caucasian_w/jaye-new-girl-marley/164920522643[/URL]
Where is Tui Na located?
[QUOTE=RaulJulia;5864828]Hey Guys,
Just adding my endorsement for Joy at Tui Na. She's very enthusiastic about her work. I was a walk-in and had never been there before, so I didn't know what to expect other than reading one or two good reviews on this website. I drove past the place at first because it's on the back / lower level of the building where it's located. But it's a nice building in a decent part of GR. Parking is adequate and pretty discreet. She gave me a decent massage and the flip was nice. Since it was my first time there I didn't know how much coaxing she might need to get to the HE. But she was flirty and playful throughout the massage and once she started working, she definitely knew what shew was doing. If you're a fan of AMPs, definitely give this place a try. She said business had been really slow lately, so this is a good one to support. She doesn't speak a lot of English, but it's enough. An added bonus--she's the only AMP I've been to lately that isn't still wearing masks, so I got to see her pretty face. And a nice amount of roaming was allowed. Standard rates for the AMP experience.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=DaddyD;5867452]Where is Tui Na located?[/QUOTE]East of Breton. 1/2 mile north of 28th street. Office setting. Park in side lot. Door in the back.
[URL]https://massage-one-massage-therapist.business.site/?utm_source=gmb&utm_medium=referral[/URL]
Hope that helps.
Sorry guys, I am embarrassed to say I got the new girls name wrong. It is MARLEY not Mandy.
Please make note of that!
Shaw.
[QUOTE=Shawtren;5867336]Sorry this is a late post. Life kinda got in the way!
I used to read of these guys that got to visit a provider that were training a new girl. The thought of that has always turned me on. I have asked around, and I usually find out about the new girls right after they go solo. That's not what I was looking for.
After two of the latest missed opportunities, I happened to get a message from Jaye. She had a new girl she was training, and she asked if I would help her learn the ropes. I jumped at the chance, and scheduled for the next morning.
I walked in and was greeted by Jaye with a great big hug, and she stepped back to introduce me to Mandy. Mandy is AA, about 5"-5" with a beautiful smile and a muscular ass. I knew I was in for some fun.
They left while I got comfortable, and came back in with some gentle music playing. Jaye knows I like a little bit of warm oil, so they got some out and went to work on me. They got comfortable right away although Jaye was slightly more so. They each started on opposite ends of me.
Now I have written about Jaye already, and I enjoy her massages very much, but for now, I will concentrate on Mandy. She is pretty quiet, which I understand. But her touch is "knowing" already. She has a way of finding a knot and concentrating on it quite well. She has a medium firm pressure that I really liked.
Jaye worked her way down, and Mandy worked her way up, and they met in the middle and took good care of my ass for a good while which I always enjoy. Mandy was kind enough to include my arms and hands in her massage. Something often overlooked. It was relaxing for sure.
On the flip, I was able to get a good look at them both. Jaye has definitely been taking care of her body, and Mandy is definitely tight! Of course my hands went directly to their asses, and I was not disappointed in either one of them although Mandy did not get quite as comfortable. I am certain she will before long at all.
The four handed finish was spectacular. Jaye knows how I like to be handled, and she showed Mandy who took the guidance very well. My hands went from asses to nipples and back again. And the attention paid to me and my body never stopped. When I finished, I was totally relaxed. Just what I needed after the weekend I had.
So in summary, Mandy is hot. She is a former dancer and it shows. Her ass is fantastic, her nipples are nice and squeezable, and a good handful of tits for sure. She is still shy, and quiet, but given a few good monger visits, she will be a natural at this. Together or separate, I would recommend both.
Play safe!
Shaw.
[URL]https://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/massage/caucasian_w/jaye-new-girl-marley/164920522643[/URL][/QUOTE]
Speaking about a new girl in training, I wrote this up on Monday, Apr 4th:
A creature of habit, or, perhaps simply a traditionalist, I selected Panacea as my massage salon over a year ago and have remained true, save out-of-town trips. Again this last Sunday evening I visited to enjoy the services offered by their staff.
An hour out, I called to enquire who was working the late Sunday evening shift. Those on duty included the celebrated Lexi and Ava whose excellent reviews are nearly universal on this forum, both of whom I have seen singly and together. When I arrived, I enquired again as I wanted a surprise this evening and chose Kayla who I had not seen before. As she entered the room, she asked if Jocelyn could "shadow" her in my session. Much to my amazement I had stumbled upon a situation that was wholly unexpected. A masseuse in training? Of course she could watch!
The house fee at Panacea is eighty for an hour. The "normal" upcharge which I offer at the outset is a Franklin and, true to form, I had it ready to go. But I had slipped another note of the same denomination under the pillow to use when / if the action got really hot and heavy and it was needed. Before the flip I withdrew that second note and passed it to Kayla saying that while I had brought it for her, would she please, if it was appropriate, pass it to Jocelyn. The tip was well received and now Jocelyn was no longer the student, she was receiving OJT. I had four hands relieving my stress. It was a fun time, indeed! As she was "in training," I offered some suggestions for after-care.
Kayla is a several year veteran of Panacea and knows her business. Jocelyn begins her first week solo on Tuesday 4/5/22 and she is really cute!
[QUOTE=Gene2;5866704]Thanks for review. It's nice to hear about one at Panacea. So I'm assuming you tipped her via card. So there's a digital record of the transaction and she will have to pay taxes on it. That's why girls want cash and pretty much all of us carry cash. Cash is king.
As we don't know much of Hailey, can you tell us how much of a tip it requires for you to get her topless and be allowed to touch? And was it anything more than a HJ? Prior reports had made me think she is one who discusses tip before anything happens. And that tends to turn off many members here, making her less of a draw than she would be if she let the tip happen organically.
Thanks for giving more information if you are so inclined.[/QUOTE]She starts at $50 and each step upward is $50 more. And talk of tip started probably 1/4 of the way into the massage. She used to work at two other area parlors. Serenity and pacific if I'm remembering correctly.
Also I know what everyone is saying about the card and the tip and I get where everyone is coming from, my schedule just happened to open up as I was coming up to west river drive and didn't have enough time to get to the bank for cash. If I went to the bank, I wouldn't have had enough time to stop in and grab a massage. I normally take cash with me because money talks.
I tried the search and did not see anything unless I did something wrong.
Anyone seen her?
[URL]https://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/massage/other/future-dream-girl-maria/216656633359[/URL]
Cecilia was out for about a month after her vacation. Well she's back at work today and didn't skip a beat. So easy on the eyes, cutest laugh and always accommodating. She's so fun to look at and play with. As always, respect boundaries.
Been a long time luker. Been around them, been with them. Just a heads up. It's there job to sell you a fantasy, after your session is done, your dream dies until the next. Don't catch no feelings, don't try to spoil them. Leave that for others. Once you pay, your a customer, there's no other way around. Stay safe and have fun!
[QUOTE=TomTravis;5868241]Speaking about a new girl in training, I wrote this up on Monday, Apr 4th:
A creature of habit, or, perhaps simply a traditionalist, I selected Panacea as my massage salon over a year ago and have remained true, save out-of-town trips. Again this last Sunday evening I visited to enjoy the services offered by their staff.
An hour out, I called to enquire who was working the late Sunday evening shift. Those on duty included the celebrated Lexi and Ava whose excellent reviews are nearly universal on this forum, both of whom I have seen singly and together. When I arrived, I enquired again as I wanted a surprise this evening and chose Kayla who I had not seen before. As she entered the room, she asked if Jocelyn could "shadow" her in my session. Much to my amazement I had stumbled upon a situation that was wholly unexpected. A masseuse in training? Of course she could watch!
The house fee at Panacea is eighty for an hour. The "normal" upcharge which I offer at the outset is a Franklin and, true to form, I had it ready to go. But I had slipped another note of the same denomination under the pillow to use when / if the action got really hot and heavy and it was needed. Before the flip I withdrew that second note and passed it to Kayla saying that while I had brought it for her, would she please, if it was appropriate, pass it to Jocelyn. The tip was well received and now Jocelyn was no longer the student, she was receiving OJT. I had four hands relieving my stress. It was a fun time, indeed! As she was "in training," I offered some suggestions for after-care.[/QUOTE]Sounds like you had quite a visit there. Could you describe Jocelyn a little more? Looks, body, etc? PM is fine, but I'd guess others may be curious too.
To be honest, I have never heard of someone spending $300 for an hour at Panacea (OK $20 shy). Hell, that tip was 250% of the time fee. Wow!
Oh, and Kalya is brand new, not a vet. She joined Panacea a couple months ago, and had never done massage prior.
Thank you for posting the review. It convinced me to try her out and it was excellent!
My impression was nude and FS aren't on the menu, not to lose sight of it being a great time overall.
[QUOTE=RaulJulia;5864828]Hey Guys,
Just adding my endorsement for Joy at Tui Na. She's very enthusiastic about her work. I was a walk-in and had never been there before, so I didn't know what to expect other than reading one or two good reviews on this website. I drove past the place at first because it's on the back / lower level of the building where it's located. But it's a nice building in a decent part of GR. Parking is adequate and pretty discreet. She gave me a decent massage and the flip was nice. Since it was my first time there I didn't know how much coaxing she might need to get to the HE. But she was flirty and playful throughout the massage and once she started working, she definitely knew what shew was doing. If you're a fan of AMPs, definitely give this place a try. She said business had been really slow lately, so this is a good one to support. She doesn't speak a lot of English, but it's enough. An added bonus--she's the only AMP I've been to lately that isn't still wearing masks, so I got to see her pretty face. And a nice amount of roaming was allowed. Standard rates for the AMP experience.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Vmax3754;5868822]I tried the search and did not see anything unless I did something wrong.
Anyone seen her?
[URL]https://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/massage/other/future-dream-girl-maria/216656633359[/URL][/QUOTE]Look at my reviews. She's Maria at pacific. Had a lot of fun with her.
Okay, just to preface this, I am a complete newbie when it comes to MPs so bear with me I usually stick to independent providers and have been inactive for quite some time. I've recently attempted to visit L. A in Portland twice now and I can't for the life of me get anything to happen. The first visit was on me because I wasn't paying attention and missed the question. Before I went the second time I attempted to find some kind of guide but I didn't find much so I just went about in a different way. I went for a full hour this time and was ready for the question. When she dropped the question I decided to use a nonverbal cue because I didn't know what to say and she just looked at me confused, giggled and said never mind. So, I'm about to give up because I have no idea how to ask for anything. I hate ask for help without providing a proper report but can I get some advice? These goofs are starting to get kinda expensive.
Much appreciated if you do.
Zig.
[QUOTE=Zigster42;5869698]Okay, just to preface this, I am a complete newbie when it comes to MPs so bear with me I usually stick to independent providers and have been inactive for quite some time. I've recently attempted to visit L. A in Portland twice now and I can't for the life of me get anything to happen. The first visit was on me because I wasn't paying attention and missed the question. Before I went the second time I attempted to find some kind of guide but I didn't find much so I just went about in a different way. I went for a full hour this time and was ready for the question. When she dropped the question I decided to use a nonverbal cue because I didn't know what to say and she just looked at me confused, giggled and said never mind. So, I'm about to give up because I have no idea how to ask for anything. I hate ask for help without providing a proper report but can I get some advice? These goofs are starting to get kinda expensive.
Much appreciated if you do.
Zig.[/QUOTE]When she asks the question. Say "everything". She will ask something like what do you want to do or how much do you want to spend. If you are afraid to say any specific act, just say everything. Not saying anything or using non-verbal clues don't really work.
[QUOTE=Zigster42;5869698]Okay, just to preface this, I am a complete newbie when it comes to MPs so bear with me I usually stick to independent providers and have been inactive for quite some time. I've recently attempted to visit L. A in Portland twice now and I can't for the life of me get anything to happen. The first visit was on me because I wasn't paying attention and missed the question. Before I went the second time I attempted to find some kind of guide but I didn't find much so I just went about in a different way. I went for a full hour this time and was ready for the question. When she dropped the question I decided to use a nonverbal cue because I didn't know what to say and she just looked at me confused, giggled and said never mind. So, I'm about to give up because I have no idea how to ask for anything. I hate ask for help without providing a proper report but can I get some advice? These goofs are starting to get kinda expensive.
Much appreciated if you do.
Zig.[/QUOTE]There are loads of options for MPs where you can get a happy ending. That can be as simple as a hand job or as intimate as a body slide.
Try BodyworkByUs (google it to find the website). Prices are all inclusive, although you can leave a tip if you like, it's not expected.
Or try Hunter. Advertisement on Skip the Games.
Or try Panacea. Advertisement on STG.
Or try Serenity. Advertisement on STG.
Once you get the hang of it, then you can venture to Asian places.
Hope that helps.
G2.
[QUOTE=ChillStack;5868857]Been a long time luker. Been around them, been with them. Just a heads up. It's there job to sell you a fantasy, after your session is done, your dream dies until the next. Don't catch no feelings, don't try to spoil them. Leave that for others. Once you pay, your a customer, there's no other way around. Stay safe and have fun![/QUOTE]Jim Hall is back! FYea!
I had the honor of seeing beautiful Milan for the 1st time in the last week, and, wow, did she impress! She met me at the door with a hug looking like a model. Well dressed, make up, and a huge smile with a naughty look. She took me back to a clean room with great ambience and We enjoyed an hour session, interrupted a few times because of walk ins, but nothing that hindered our time. Because it was the 1st visit with her, I let her do her thing. She was obviously interested in meeting me massage needs and she has wonderful hands. Soft but able to give give rub down and work our kinks. She located them well and applied the right pressure. On the flip she continued to work my leg and arms but also became playful, showcasing her gorgeous body. She had already undressed to a sexy nighty but now she revealed her pretty breasts and let me play with them. I did not explore other areas, other than her perfect butt. We did not discuss other options but I will proceed slowly with this beautiful woman and respect her desires. . 80 for room & a generous donation for tip. She does not ask for a specific amount but leaves it to you. But she is worth far more than the average gal, so please tip accordingly. I will definitely be returning to this rare gem.
[URL]https://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/massage/exotic/milan/889458837004[/URL]
[QUOTE=ClassyGentGr;5870192]I had the honor of seeing beautiful Milan for the 1st time in the last week, and, wow, did she impress! She met me at the door with a hug looking like a model. Well dressed, make up, and a huge smile with a naughty look. She took me back to a clean room with great ambience and We enjoyed an hour session, interrupted a few times because of walk ins, but nothing that hindered our time. Because it was the 1st visit with her, I let her do her thing. She was obviously interested in meeting me massage needs and she has wonderful hands. Soft but able to give give rub down and work our kinks. She located them well and applied the right pressure. On the flip she continued to work my leg and arms but also became playful, showcasing her gorgeous body. She had already undressed to a sexy nighty but now she revealed her pretty breasts and let me play with them. I did not explore other areas, other than her perfect butt. We did not discuss other options but I will proceed slowly with this beautiful woman and respect her desires. . 80 for room & a generous donation for tip. She does not ask for a specific amount but leaves it to you. But she is worth far more than the average gal, so please tip accordingly. I will definitely be returning to this rare gem.
[URL]https://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/massage/exotic/milan/889458837004[/URL][/QUOTE]Spot on for me on Beautiful Milan. Get there quick though as this TGTBT can't last long. I'll be back as soon as I make GR again. Might come early just to see her.
I have been to Panacea once before and had a great experience. So when I found myself in the neighborhood with some free time the other day I decided to drop in and grab a quick massage. I drew Courtney for a half hour and it was a pretty disappointing experience. She talked tip almost as soon as she walked in the door and wanted $150 for nude HJ with the price going up from there. I told her that wasn't happening, she got a little snippy with me but we did settle on $80 for a topless HJ. Hindsight I should have walked but was already there and in the mood. Lesson learned.
She gave me the most lackluster massage I have ever received and didn't say a word to me other than flip over. And while I know we are not necessarily there for the massage but it is nice when a little effort is put into it. I am not sure if that's normal for her or only because I wouldn't give agree to her initial rate. The HJ was fine but I was pretty turned off at this point. She sort of cleaned me up, again all without speaking and then left. I got dressed and saw my way out. I am not writing off Panacea by any means but definitely will never see her again and will be sure to see only reviewed girls from now on.
BenNorth.
[QUOTE=BenNorth;5870262]I have been to Panacea once before and had a great experience. So when I found myself in the neighborhood with some free time the other day I decided to drop in and grab a quick massage. I drew Courtney for a half hour and it was a pretty disappointing experience. She talked tip almost as soon as she walked in the door and wanted $150 for nude HJ with the price going up from there. I told her that wasn't happening, she got a little snippy with me but we did settle on $80 for a topless HJ. Hindsight I should have walked but was already there and in the mood. Lesson learned.
She gave me the most lackluster massage I have ever received and didn't say a word to me other than flip over. And while I know we are not necessarily there for the massage but it is nice when a little effort is put into it. I am not sure if that's normal for her or only because I wouldn't give agree to her initial rate. The HJ was fine but I was pretty turned off at this point. She sort of cleaned me up, again all without speaking and then left. I got dressed and saw my way out. I am not writing off Panacea by any means but definitely will never see her again and will be sure to see only reviewed girls from now on..[/QUOTE]Every once in a while I get to feeling a bit taken for granted at my personal favorite spot, BodyworkByUs. Not often, but it happens. It's probably just me. Maybe I can't get an appointment scheduled with my selected girl, or maybe I have to wait hours for a response.
But then a post like this comes along, and reminds me that all is well in my world. I have so many selections available at BBU. And all of them play by the same rules with regard to costs. It's kind of exciting to see a new girl, but if the experience is simply a negotiation, that's just not what I'm after. My life is full of negotiating and deals. I want to escape the reality for 45 minutes of pure enjoyment and pleasure and fantasy.
To hear that negotiating results in a salty provider speaks to me. And it says "stay away". And I guess that's what makes this board so helpful.
So thanks for posting this review. I will take a hard no pass on Courtney, or anyone else at Panacea who hasn't been reviewed and cleared as a "non-negotiator."
I'm hitting the BBU website now and getting an appointment scheduled!
G2.
[QUOTE=BenNorth;5870262]I have been to Panacea once before and had a great experience. So when I found myself in the neighborhood with some free time the other day I decided to drop in and grab a quick massage. I drew Courtney for a half hour and it was a pretty disappointing experience. She talked tip almost as soon as she walked in the door and wanted $150 for nude HJ with the price going up from there. I told her that wasn't happening, she got a little snippy with me but we did settle on $80 for a topless HJ. Hindsight I should have walked but was already there and in the mood. Lesson learned.
She gave me the most lackluster massage I have ever received and didn't say a word to me other than flip over. And while I know we are not necessarily there for the massage but it is nice when a little effort is put into it. I am not sure if that's normal for her or only because I wouldn't give agree to her initial rate. The HJ was fine but I was pretty turned off at this point. She sort of cleaned me up, again all without speaking and then left. I got dressed and saw my way out. I am not writing off Panacea by any means but definitely will never see her again and will be sure to see only reviewed girls from now on.
BenNorth.[/QUOTE]I quit doing walkins at Panacea over a year ago because of problems like this. So then I figured I will just call ahead to see who is working and setup an appointment. But everytime I call to ask who is working they get kinda pissy like you're bugging them or something. So. Now I don't go there at all. There's a few good ones there that I do miss seeing. But there's too many other good options in town to deal with rudeness on the phone or terrible service on a walkin.
[QUOTE=BenNorth;5870262]I have been to Panacea once before and had a great experience. So when I found myself in the neighborhood with some free time the other day I decided to drop in and grab a quick massage. I drew Courtney for a half hour and it was a pretty disappointing experience. She talked tip almost as soon as she walked in the door and wanted $150 for nude HJ with the price going up from there. I told her that wasn't happening, she got a little snippy with me but we did settle on $80 for a topless HJ. Hindsight I should have walked but was already there and in the mood. Lesson learned.
She gave me the most lackluster massage I have ever received and didn't say a word to me other than flip over. And while I know we are not necessarily there for the massage but it is nice when a little effort is put into it. I am not sure if that's normal for her or only because I wouldn't give agree to her initial rate. The HJ was fine but I was pretty turned off at this point. She sort of cleaned me up, again all without speaking and then left. I got dressed and saw my way out. I am not writing off Panacea by any means but definitely will never see her again and will be sure to see only reviewed girls from now on..[/QUOTE]Thanks for sharing the review. Shame to hear that about Courtney. We'll have to add another new gal to the avoid list at Panacea.
I suggest calling ahead, and only go in if you can see someone you know is cool, or maybe go ahead anyway if you are OK with throwing $50 away for a half hour session to meet someone new. If the later case, and whenever the bullshit tip talk starts like that, I suggest you consider just bagging it. The session isn't going to be fun once the talk of crazy money starts. Either tell the gal you don't talk money during session, but will tip well if treated well (it's for my safety and your's babe. Tell her), or just stand up and start getting dressed, without a comment. Enough guys start walking out of the shit tip sessions, and even the new girls will figure out how to make money fairly (they make almost nothing from the time charge, certainly not enough to keep doing this).
IMHO, the girls I know to be fun and worth seeing include Lexi, Aliese, Ava, Kayla, Melissa, Natalie, and Kelly.
Of course, you are guaranteed to have a great visit at BbU.
[QUOTE=BenNorth;5870262]I have been to Panacea once before and had a great experience. So when I found myself in the neighborhood with some free time the other day I decided to drop in and grab a quick massage. I drew Courtney for a half hour and it was a pretty disappointing experience. She talked tip almost as soon as she walked in the door and wanted $150 for nude HJ with the price going up from there. I told her that wasn't happening, she got a little snippy with me but we did settle on $80 for a topless HJ. Hindsight I should have walked but was already there and in the mood. Lesson learned.
She gave me the most lackluster massage I have ever received and didn't say a word to me other than flip over. And while I know we are not necessarily there for the massage but it is nice when a little effort is put into it. I am not sure if that's normal for her or only because I wouldn't give agree to her initial rate. The HJ was fine but I was pretty turned off at this point. She sort of cleaned me up, again all without speaking and then left. I got dressed and saw my way out. I am not writing off Panacea by any means but definitely will never see her again and will be sure to see only reviewed girls from now on.[/QUOTE]I would like to add to this provider. I saw her a few weeks ago. Not the worse but not what I was expecting after some back and fourth texting.
Similar experience but no mention of tip cause that was talked about prior to my arrival. It was $.20 for a hh which was more like 20 mins. Paid the door fee out of that. Lead to the room told to leave tip on counter and then she left for 5 mins (seemed lot longer LOL). Came back in the room started with a half ass massage, then I choose to give her one. She Basically laid there nude, no movement, no connection. Felt like she wanted to get done and out ASAP. Then can some fun. I had wanted FS and and mutual playing. Well the playing started and that was it. I asked the the rest mid way and she said no that's not included. Quickly got me off after that. Cleaned me half ass, she got dressed so fast I was halfway done myself and I had to show myself out. Eh to the whole things. Won't repeat with her. No knock to the MP.
P.S.
I thought about it more more and more. I think I seen her few years ago for a outcall and it was pretty much the same. Upcharges and the word no to everything.
Stay safe.
Anyone know what has happened to Lauren? She has been MIA now into this second week. She okay?
[QUOTE=WestMI;5871107]Anyone know what has happened to Lauren? She has been MIA now into this second week. She okay?[/QUOTE]I had comms with her last week. May be on spring break? I texted her Monday but no response.
Ss.
[QUOTE=WestMI;5871107]Anyone know what has happened to Lauren? She has been MIA now into this second week. She okay?[/QUOTE]I believe she was on spring break last week. Not sure about this week, maybe the monthly visit. Hopefully she's back to us soon.
[QUOTE=BenNorth;5870262]I have been to Panacea once before and had a great experience. So when I found myself in the neighborhood with some free time the other day I decided to drop in and grab a quick massage. I drew Courtney for a half hour and it was a pretty disappointing experience. She talked tip almost as soon as she walked in the door and wanted $150 for nude HJ with the price going up from there. I told her that wasn't happening, she got a little snippy with me but we did settle on $80 for a topless HJ. Hindsight I should have walked but was already there and in the mood. Lesson learned.
She gave me the most lackluster massage I have ever received and didn't say a word to me other than flip over. And while I know we are not necessarily there for the massage but it is nice when a little effort is put into it. I am not sure if that's normal for her or only because I wouldn't give agree to her initial rate. The HJ was fine but I was pretty turned off at this point. She sort of cleaned me up, again all without speaking and then left. I got dressed and saw my way out. I am not writing off Panacea by any means but definitely will never see her again and will be sure to see only reviewed girls from now on.
BenNorth.[/QUOTE]When will these girls ever learn? WTF!! I've said it a million times, the girls that make the most money at these parlors are the ones that never EVER bring up tip amounts during the session, it's such a mood killer! Natasha was the absolute best that Panacea ever had and that girl couldn't even fit all the cash in her purse at the end of each work day. She never ever even said the word tip and she got completely comfortable right at the start without having to ask her to and she knew how to be sexy and have a playful time that kept all of us cumming back, day after day, week after week! The door fee of either 50 hh, or 80 hour should automatically include getting completely nude and the HE. The extra tipping comes into play when there is complete roaming, fiv, face sitting, etc. And sometimes more. P.S. I always match the door fee and always get what I think is fun and fair for me and the lady.
[QUOTE=Gene2;5870576]Every once in a while I get to feeling a bit taken for granted at my personal favorite spot, BodyworkByUs. Not often, but it happens. It's probably just me. Maybe I can't get an appointment scheduled with my selected girl, or maybe I have to wait hours for a response.
But then a post like this comes along, and reminds me that all is well in my world. I have so many selections available at BBU. And all of them play by the same rules with regard to costs. It's kind of exciting to see a new girl, but if the experience is simply a negotiation, that's just not what I'm after. My life is full of negotiating and deals. I want to escape the reality for 45 minutes of pure enjoyment and pleasure and fantasy.
To hear that negotiating results in a salty provider speaks to me. And it says "stay away". And I guess that's what makes this board so helpful.
So thanks for posting this review. I will take a hard no pass on Courtney, or anyone else at Panacea who hasn't been reviewed and cleared as a "non-negotiator."
I'm hitting the BBU website now and getting an appointment scheduled!
G2.[/QUOTE]Yes, definitely lesson learned. I am still relatively new to this so I appreciate all the advice that has been given. This board has been incredibly helpful and has given me the confidence to walk out should it ever happen again. Sometimes its hard to pass on the excitement of someone new. I won't write off Panacea but I will stick with girls who have been reviewed in the positive.
Thanks and stay safe everyone.
Ben.
[QUOTE=LoveTheLips;5871617]When will these girls ever learn? WTF!! I've said it a million times, the girls that make the most money at these parlors are the ones that never EVER bring up tip amounts during the session, it's such a mood killer! Natasha was the absolute best that Panacea ever had and that girl couldn't even fit all the cash in her purse at the end of each work day. She never ever even said the word tip and she got completely comfortable right at the start without having to ask her to and she knew how to be sexy and have a playful time that kept all of us cumming back, day after day, week after week! The door fee of either 50 hh, or 80 hour should automatically include getting completely nude and the HE. The extra tipping comes into play when there is complete roaming, fiv, face sitting, etc. And sometimes more. P.S. I always match the door fee and always get what I think is fun and fair for me and the lady.[/QUOTE]You should go to bodywork's by us.
[QUOTE=LoveTheLips;5871617]When will these girls ever learn? WTF!! I've said it a million times, the girls that make the most money at these parlors are the ones that never EVER bring up tip amounts during the session, it's such a mood killer! Natasha was the absolute best that Panacea ever had and that girl couldn't even fit all the cash in her purse at the end of each work day. She never ever even said the word tip and she got completely comfortable right at the start without having to ask her to and she knew how to be sexy and have a playful time that kept all of us cumming back, day after day, week after week! The door fee of either 50 hh, or 80 hour should automatically include getting completely nude and the HE. The extra tipping comes into play when there is complete roaming, FIV, face sitting, etc. And sometimes more. P.S. I always match the door fee and always get what I think is fun and fair for me and the lady.[/QUOTE]I've heard Courtney no longer works at Panacea!
The location is a directly across from Mediterranean island on Kalamazoo near 44th. Was interested in trying the table shower and meeting Amy for the first time based on previous good reports. I scheduled with Amy using the main website phone number and by text only. No issues with the arrangements, starting on time or the amount of time. All were as expected. The table shower was nice and for a 20 min body wash at 10, it was worth it. I followed this with a 60 min massage typical real massage you expect from an AMP with oil and deep with forearms used. I established a friendly rapport during the shower that carried into the massage. What you often expect from an AMP is a legit massage and the HE is a very mechanical bang-it-out session. I heard Amy was different. Better. I can report IMO, she was fantastic. Slow and attentive. You don't really get the GFE and a lot of talking like you would at BBW, but is a great option if you really need the massage and want an quality HE. Never a request for tip, but I like to give freely for excellent service. Total: table shower 10, 60 min 60 (70 up front), tip 40. YMMV, but suggest being kind and respectful. Works for me.
Cheers and stay safe! Tdawg.
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