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[QUOTE=Wireless91910;3140035]Rates are going up. Word has gotten back from some of the free agents that have left F & C, what the market rate is. So I doubt you are going to get away with. 40 tip anymore. But I did save $15 staying at Holiday Inn Express last night.[/QUOTE]Do any of the F+C girls still do rimming? For me that was the appeal.
Anyone have any other place that consistently does rimming? I need a good cleaning.
Some monger told the girls what other place charged. Now, they started to ask for more.
Time to find a new place.
[QUOTE=AsianPussy;3141715]Do any of the F+C girls still do rimming? For me that was the appeal.
Anyone have any other place that consistently does rimming? I need a good cleaning.[/QUOTE]I've found that most of the Korean AAMP do consistent rimming. At first it was quite the surprise but now I want it every time.
[QUOTE=Ashtonian;3135111]I went to fish and ships about a month ago and saw Lena.
40 at the door 80 for her.
It was good she gave a half decent massage and went for the flip and took care of me.[/QUOTE]It was bound to happen. I always paid a 0. 4 tip and she was happy. For some reason, other punters feel they need to tip more and / or feel we are too cheap, taking advantage or should feel more sorry about their predicament. Obviously, this spoils a good thing.
She is laughing all the way to the bank.
Just my POV.
OAH.
[QUOTE=OldAsiaHand;3143366]It was bound to happen. I always paid a 0. 4 tip and she was happy. [/QUOTE]You blame the wrong persons. You should know how these women think. They don't think how much they are worth, but how much you can pay. They know for some guys if you try to squeeze $20 more they will be gone. For other guys, they know they can get more. If they fail, they have nothing to lose. It's easy to find another dude paying the same. On the other hand, say, a $40 blowjob and an $60 blowjob should be at least a little different. They would try to make sure they do enough to justify the higher price, even though a blowjob is a blowjob. At least subconsciously, they will be trying to be nicer because they are happier. If a guy knows that everybody else pays $40, it would be hard to pay more. Blame it on the lack of information, blame it on the women.
[QUOTE=JamesD2004;3143444]You blame the wrong persons. You should know how these women think. They don't think how much they are worth, but how much you can pay. They know for some guys if you try to squeeze $20 more they will be gone. For other guys, they know they can get more. If they fail, they have nothing to lose. It's easy to find another dude paying the same. On the other hand, say, a $40 blowjob and an $60 blowjob should be at least a little different. They would try to make sure they do enough to justify the higher price, even though a blowjob is a blowjob. At least subconsciously, they will be trying to be nicer because they are happier. If a guy knows that everybody else pays $40, it would be hard to pay more. Blame it on the lack of information, blame it on the women.[/QUOTE]I agree with your theory that they think about how much they can get. However, if every customer insisted to pay the same, the prices would not increase. That said, it sounds great but never works that way. The problem is that when some mongers are behind the curtain with their peckers in her hand, their little head takes over and they cave. And, price is not always necessarily proportionate to service IMHO. It depends on the provider.
I claim to know a little about how these F&C girls think. I lived in China for 20 years.
Yeah, I learned my lesson in Singapore about 20 years ago when I made the mistake of tipping the bell boy a couple of dollars for helping me with my luggage to my cab. My host noticed that I had discretely tipped the young man and I was promptly scolded for doing so. In a nice but firm manner, he advised me "Don't spoil the market! I can still hear his voice in my head.
Dutch.
[QUOTE=OldAsiaHand;3143366]It was bound to happen. I always paid a 0. 4 tip and she was happy. For some reason, other punters feel they need to tip more and / or feel we are too cheap, taking advantage or should feel more sorry about their predicament. Obviously, this spoils a good thing.
She is laughing all the way to the bank.
Just my POV.
OAH.[/QUOTE]
It is not fair to compare what you paid in China and what prices are here. Give me a break. You can go down to Tijuana and get FS for $30. BJ's for $12! I don't see anyone complaining what the Latina girls are getting here for FS!
[QUOTE=OldAsiaHand;3143906]I agree with your theory that they think about how much they can get. However, if every customer insisted to pay the same, the prices would not increase. That said, it sounds great but never works that way. The problem is that when some mongers are behind the curtain with their peckers in her hand, their little head takes over and they cave. And, price is not always necessarily proportionate to service IMHO. It depends on the provider.
I claim to know a little about how these F&C girls think. I lived in China for 20 years.[/QUOTE]
The 2 AAMPS I go to are thai now, can you recomend a good Korean one?
I haven't had korean pussy since skypark and GDM closed.
[QUOTE=ScotchGuard9;3142619]I've found that most of the Korean AAMP do consistent rimming. At first it was quite the surprise but now I want it every time.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=AsianPussy;3144937]The 2 AAMPS I go to are thai now, can you recomend a good Korean one?
I haven't had korean pussy since skypark and GDM closed.[/QUOTE]Go see Heri in OC. She splits her time between LA and OC but my goodness she can rim!
LovetheOC, I think it's all relevant. You are quoting street prices in Tijuana, but I know you can't get a girl to leave Adilito's or Hong Kong for those prices in Tijuana. The market price was set low at F & C because the talent was similar to the Bloomington girls. I don't think it's necessary to drop $ for F / S at this location when the market price was set lower. I'm pretty sure if that was the going price there, business would die up. I believe you should pay what you consider is fair.
I was just reading about a chap who paid $$ for a nude HJ in San Diego and that was after the door fee of. 80. Unless it's Meghan Markle, why would you pay that? I think the little head takes over and guys make some bad decisions. As Robert Di Nero best said. [URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IMXEOtxXRiM[/URL].
Good Hunting.
[QUOTE=LoveTheOC;3144294]It is not fair to compare what you paid in China and what prices are here. Give me a break. You can go down to Tijuana and get FS for $30. BJ's for $12! I don't see anyone complaining what the Latina girls are getting here for FS![/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=ScotchGuard9;3144945]Go see Heri in OC. She splits her time between LA and OC but my goodness she can rim![/QUOTE]She spits or splits? I like the spitting.
[QUOTE=ScotchGuard9;3144945]Go see Heri in OC. She splits her time between LA and OC but my goodness she can rim![/QUOTE]Does she have an ad on HX or how does one find her?
[QUOTE=Hornilius69;3102463]Which place is better?
1. Lucky.
2. Lavender.
3. Passion.
4. Petite.
5. New C C.[/QUOTE]Without a doubt lavender.
[QUOTE=LoveTheOC;3144294]It is not fair to compare what you paid in China and what prices are here. Give me a break. You can go down to Tijuana and get FS for $30. BJ's for $12! I don't see anyone complaining what the Latina girls are getting here for FS![/QUOTE]LoveTheOC,
Perhaps, you misunderstood. I am not comparing China prices with the OC. I'm just saying I understand the mentality of the China MILFs that work at F&C after spending 20 years in China.
F&C has become too popular. As more mongers continue to pay more, the girls will continue to ask for more and expect to get it. We value hunters need to look for greener pastures.
OAH.
I'd like to add that both sides know the difference between a bread and butter client or not. In one of the sponsor site, I think, a guy reported that his regular MP woman didn't provide him HJ anymore. He asked for a refund of the massage and was rejected until he created a scene like a toddler. It is obvious that when the woman had enough clients, she didn't need to accept his low tips anymore. Nobody owes anybody anything. If you think keeping secrets work, so be it.
Even though I love to find an MP that I want to be a regular, I still haven't found one. Since I'm not a B&B client, I pay accordingly. If I'm in an MP on occasion, my happiness going out of the MP is the most important. I'm not going to drive a hard bargain or ruining my day if I like what I see. If I come back often then I would start worrying. In any discipline, there's always the regular discounts and frequent flyer benefits.
Like last time, on my turf, you can get a cold distant HE for $60. Since she was an eye candy, $20 more or $20 less wasn't more important to me than getting her to do everything on her menu. She, in a little black dress, is hotter than those teens who like to take off their clothes for a nude massage. She is still Asian thin but fuller than those tiny cuties. After exposing myself, we ended up sitting on the massage table, tightly side by side. I split her stylish hair and kissed on her cheek if only to check out if her face deserved my tips. It doesn't seem much but it was more intimate and sexy than escorts, AAMP's, whatever. Not knowing if she would allow, I pulled down her dress from shoulder to waist and started feeding on one breast while holding the other. Her legs were sexy so I had to put one of hers across my lap and felt it all from pussy to toes. It would be awkward to continue the HE in that position, but she was eager to make sure that I got what I wanted. I would like to go back for more if I can lick her pussy and finger her. But the total price doesn't make a lot of sense for regular visits, compared to the AAMP's, unless you don't want to go all the way.
Anyone know what they expect for a tip for nuru?
[QUOTE=FeMaiden;3151097]Anyone know what they expect for a tip for nuru?[/QUOTE]How they possibly do it on the massage tables? Now I understand why they have such a big shower booth.
[QUOTE=CrackBaby;3048860]Just saw an advertisement for an AMP on Backpage with an address very close to the old Holiday Spa in Costa Mesa. Wonder if they re-opened?[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Bigfoot16;3061860]No they have not reopened. The owner got her real estate license and is out of the massage business.[/QUOTE]LOL. Sorry just saw this. Some guys will believe anything. She's been working nearby at South Coast Massage Spa on Bristol.
[QUOTE=Import;3151511]LOL. Sorry just saw this. Some guys will believe anything. She's been working nearby at South Coast Massage Spa on Bristol.[/QUOTE]I met one who became an estate agent and one was working for a license. Another one emailed me that she got her license. When she was working on it, I made her promise that when she became an agent, she should find an expensive home, pretend that I'm a client and fuck in there. I almost forget the SVG estate agent; her commission-only job is so low paid that she moonlight as a massage girl in Tustin.
3 cruisers parked outside charming in anaheim. BE careful.
[QUOTE=BryCarr;3152339]3 cruisers parked outside charming in anaheim. BE careful.[/QUOTE]Don't worry they were having a meeting about which monger wears the ugliest shorts.
Damn I was at SH health across bolsa mall again. Got a plain girl which was ok. But I was one on the way out that looked good and a dress. Couldn't get her freaking name.
I did buzz down to P&C wellness after since all the ladies there wear short dresses. I needed some ass grabbing. Got cic and she does have a nice ass. She also likes to rub your ass so it like even.
I also went to hao upstairs across from best buy on lake forest. New owners so one lady in some yoga pants and another in a dress thingy. I got the dress thingy. She had on a tiny purple g-sting nice. Good massage decent time for 50.
Tomorrow probably hit another 30 an hour place looking for sexy dressed easy hot cheap girls.
[QUOTE=WallyWally;3152489]Damn I was at SH health across bolsa mall again. Got a plain girl which was ok. But I was one on the way out that looked good and a dress. Couldn't get her freaking name.
I did buzz down to P&C wellness after since all the ladies there wear short dresses. I needed some ass grabbing. Got cic and she does have a nice ass. She also likes to rub your ass so it like even.
I also went to hao upstairs across from best buy on lake forest. New owners so one lady in some yoga pants and another in a dress thingy. I got the dress thingy. She had on a tiny purple g-sting nice. Good massage decent time for 50.
Tomorrow probably hit another 30 an hour place looking for sexy dressed easy hot cheap girls.[/QUOTE]Did things end happily at hao?
[QUOTE=FeMaiden;3152494]Did things end happily at hao?[/QUOTE]Happy yes. Took guidance since first time with her. I sure did like her big ass. Friendly. Last time I was there a woman came in right before me for a massage.
Anything new about lakeshore on el toro? Is Joanna back yet? Any one crazy good there?
Ad's on BP disappeared.
Hi guys,
I just want to ask if any of you mongers have any experience at this place? I go here 2 times and get very good massage with little tease but that's all I get. I really like this place because it is VERY clean. They also do 10 times get 1 free. Thanks guys.
[QUOTE=WallyWally;3152489]Damn I was at SH health across bolsa mall again. Got a plain girl which was ok. But I was one on the way out that looked good and a dress. Couldn't get her freaking name.
I did buzz down to P&C wellness after since all the ladies there wear short dresses. I needed some ass grabbing. Got cic and she does have a nice ass. She also likes to rub your ass so it like even.
I also went to hao upstairs across from best buy on lake forest. New owners so one lady in some yoga pants and another in a dress thingy. I got the dress thingy. She had on a tiny purple g-sting nice. Good massage decent time for 50.
Tomorrow probably hit another 30 an hour place looking for sexy dressed easy hot cheap girls.[/QUOTE]Have you ever tried the next door place? I belive it is call Lucky Massage.
I have several experiences I would like to share.
1) Fairview and warner second floor.
This place is well known for their nuru experience. Paid 1. 0 at the door. It was pricey. I was crying inside but I was hoping the money spent was well worth it.
A Caucasian woman named Veronica served me. Back rub using her upper body was pretty nice. She occasionally whispered near my ear and that made me super horny.
Flipped me over. I felt even better. Lots of body to body actions. Some titts on d action then she made me happy.
I showered at the end and after I came out, she asked for a tip.
I gave. 2 and I could tell she didn't have enough tips. I was like, * please, I spent 1. 0 on this shit!!
2) Fairview and warner oasis.
I saw from rm that this place does not offer HE. It does not matter since my back felt fucking sore.
Paid. 30 at the door. Went inside the first room on the left (bad sign).
I got undressed and as soon as I did so, she went in. It was dark but I took a peep anyway.
Kinda cute body was amazing as well. She did not put towel on my butt (good sign).
Massage was poor (good sign).
When she was doing my back, she didn't move my hands away and my hands were between her thighs (good sign).
I flipped and to my expectation; she gave me happy for. 3.
To me, it was a good experience, and I would totally want to repeat.
To be continued.
[QUOTE=JamesD2004;3153113]Ad's on BP disappeared.[/QUOTE]Just clearing up all old ads. Daily new ad a little late.
[QUOTE=Tippi;3153230]Have you ever tried the next door place? I belive it is call Lucky Massage.[/QUOTE]Yes all I got were older ladies with nothing. I don't get it cause I always saw guys coming out of there. Must be a secret room in there hahahah. Anyone seen better times at Lucky?
[QUOTE=CryMoarHoar;3153273]I have several experiences I would like to share.
1) Fairview and warner second floor.
This place is well known for their nuru experience. Paid 1. 0 at the door. It was pricey. I was crying inside but I was hoping the money spent was well worth it.
A Caucasian woman named Veronica served me. Back rub using her upper body was pretty nice. She occasionally whispered near my ear and that made me super horny.
Flipped me over. I felt even better. Lots of body to body actions. Some titts on d action then she made me happy.
I showered at the end and after I came out, she asked for a tip.
I gave. 2 and I could tell she didn't have enough tips. I was like, * please, I spent 1. 0 on this shit!!
2) Fairview and warner oasis.
I saw from rm that this place does not offer HE. It does not matter since my back felt fucking sore.
Paid. 30 at the door. Went inside the first room on the left (bad sign).
I got undressed and as soon as I did so, she went in. It was dark but I took a peep anyway.
Kinda cute body was amazing as well. She did not put towel on my butt (good sign).
Massage was poor (good sign).
When she was doing my back, she didn't move my hands away and my hands were between her thighs (good sign).
I flipped and to my expectation; she gave me happy for. 3.
To me, it was a good experience, and I would totally want to repeat.
To be continued.[/QUOTE]What do they expect for a tip for the nuru place? I've wanted to try for some time.
[QUOTE=Tippi;3153228]Hi guys,
I just want to ask if any of you mongers have any experience at this place? I go here 2 times and get very good massage with little tease but that's all I get. I really like this place because it is VERY clean. They also do 10 times get 1 free. Thanks guys.[/QUOTE]Been here twice too and got nothing just like you.
[QUOTE=CryMoarHoar;3153273]I have several experiences I would like to share.
1) Fairview and warner second floor.
This place is well known for their nuru experience. Paid 1. 0 at the door. It was pricey. I was crying inside but I was hoping the money spent was well worth it.
A Caucasian woman named Veronica served me. Back rub using her upper body was pretty nice. She occasionally whispered near my ear and that made me super horny.
Flipped me over. I felt even better. Lots of body to body actions. Some titts on d action then she made me happy.
I showered at the end and after I came out, she asked for a tip.
I gave. 2 and I could tell she didn't have enough tips. I was like, * please, I spent 1. 0 on this shit!!
2) Fairview and warner oasis.
I saw from rm that this place does not offer HE. It does not matter since my back felt fucking sore.
Paid. 30 at the door. Went inside the first room on the left (bad sign).
I got undressed and as soon as I did so, she went in. It was dark but I took a peep anyway.
Kinda cute body was amazing as well. She did not put towel on my butt (good sign).
Massage was poor (good sign).
When she was doing my back, she didn't move my hands away and my hands were between her thighs (good sign).
I flipped and to my expectation; she gave me happy for. 3.
To me, it was a good experience, and I would totally want to repeat.
To be continued.[/QUOTE]Did you get her name? Or do you have a physical description?
[QUOTE=Quinby1;3153927]Been here twice too and got nothing just like you.[/QUOTE]Just go next door to P&C. Sure its dumpy, sure the floor is all oily, but the ladies always wear short trampy dresses with little thongs and let you feel them up. Massage is so-so but they always have nice oily skin and give you every op to grab ass. 30 bucks hard to beat.
Anyone know of any good latina mp's? Emp bellas and holiday no. 4 were my absolute favorites but they closed down. Anyone know where the girls went?
There are tons of Asian massage places (viet, Korean, Chinese) and Latina places. Why have I never heard of an all black massage place? Has anyone ever come across one?
Just wondering.
[QUOTE=Pondo;3154668]There are tons of Asian massage places (viet, Korean, Chinese) and Latina places. Why have I never heard of an all black massage place? Has anyone ever come across one?
Just wondering.[/QUOTE]It's called harbor street. Ever heard?
[QUOTE=Pondo;3154668]There are tons of Asian massage places (viet, Korean, Chinese) and Latina places. Why have I never heard of an all black massage place? Has anyone ever come across one?
Just wondering.[/QUOTE]Back in the days of the OC Register Classifieds (before this little thing called the internet) there used to be an outfit that advertised in there. The ad was very brief and suggestive. It read "Black Tails" something something, and it ended with "Call for De-Tails" etc.
Anybody remember that ad?
I've been seeing Anna who works weekends. She has picked up her game quite a bit. Good massage, butt rub, got her naked a couple of times, sucked on her titties, French kiss, DATY, FIV, HJ and BBBJ with swallow all of which varies visit to visit and it has taken me awhile to get this far with her so YMMV. Usually 60 for the hour and 100 for the tip if we play all the games. I still haven't been able to get her fuck me though. She's one of those plain looking, sturdy Chinese farm milfs similar to Li Na at Fish&Chips just not quite as nasty. Nice titties though. Firm natural c borderline d cups.
I also noticed the weird place right behind it today. I never saw it there before and from the looks of the place it has to be something sketchy. I might check it out next trip.
Happy Hoin!