Office / hourly motel issues?
Short question / longer rant.
Question: any truth that LEO is watching or hassling guests of the Office or other short stays?
Rant:
If you have read ripoffs you've seen another recent example of why everyone pretty much agrees to avoid outcalls to your personal place. And there are also stories about issues at incall at the girls (or her flop house or handlers etc). I have used short stays as a way around this in the past. Pick a girl up in south Akron, shoot to short stay for uninterrupted time, and drop her off.
Lately I have tried to set up with a couple different girls where I was very clear up front where I wanted to go. Then last minute as we go to meet up they pull "oh that place isn't safe let's just stay at mine. " It's equal to nc / ns to me.
Get this. I had a girl tell me the other day how cops came while she was at flop house with a guy, she faked an overdose to get ambulance called, then ran off ditching the scene. I see comments about them all being addicts and think maybe so.
About pricing. 250 seems high, but take a 150 date then add in cost of secure meeting space and a set appointment time with no hassle. And maybe it really isn't so much?
My favorite Sherrif Barney Fife
[QUOTE=NawtyMarkus;4078950]Short question / longer rant.
Question: any truth that LEO is watching or hassling guests of the Office or other short stays?
Rant:
If you have read ripoffs you've seen another recent example of why everyone pretty much agrees to avoid outcalls to your personal place. And there are also stories about issues at incall at the girls (or her flop house or handlers etc). I have used short stays as a way around this in the past. Pick a girl up in south Akron, shoot to short stay for uninterrupted time, and drop her off.
Lately I have tried to set up with a couple different girls where I was very clear up front where I wanted to go. Then last minute as we go to meet up they pull "oh that place isn't safe let's just stay at mine. " It's equal to nc / ns to me.
Get this. I had a girl tell me the other day how cops came while she was at flop house with a guy, she faked an overdose to get ambulance called, then ran off ditching the scene. I see comments about them all being addicts and think maybe so.
About pricing. 250 seems high, but take a 150 date then add in cost of secure meeting space and a set appointment time with no hassle. And maybe it really isn't so much?[/QUOTE]I can speak to a personal experience I had using a place in south Akron / Coventry area in early 2018. So all in all I had a great time with my guest. It was 8-9 pm, not late by any means. I open the room door to take something out to my vehicle and Barney from Summit County Sheriff is rolling right in front of my door. WTF. So I close and lock the door, tell my guest, she thinks I'm bs'ing, opens door and confirms Barney is parked at the end of the row of buildings. So we agree on a tip and go for another 30 minutes praying the rosary. Great time! So I get ready to exit again and Barney is no where to be seen. My guest and I proceed to leave. I pull out onto SR93 heading north and roll right past Barney sitting in the parking lot of the optometrist just up the road. Sure enough he pulls out and follows. My guest is freaking out. Barney lights us up and pulls us over 100 yrds short of the freeway. I tell / coach my guest to STFU, sit still, and say NOTHING, no matter what, say absolutely NOTHING. Barney comes to passenger window, I tell him it does not work. That pisses him off. He comes to my window and it starts. He tells me I was swerving and that's why he pulled me over. I asked if he would like to see the video from the four dash cams I have in my vehicle and compare to the video he has. The veins are pulsing in Barney's neck now. He doesn't ask for my drivers license, registration, or proof of insurance. I remind him again he is being recorded. He tells me to wait and he goes back to his SUV. As he turns and leaves I ask if I am being detained for anything and get no response. At about that time deputy Gomer Pyle rolls up and talks with Barney. Gomer comes to my window and asks for drivers license, etc. He tells me Barney will take my passenger to his vehicle as she may be on a missing person's report they have. I unlock the passenger door and my guest goes with Barney. Gomer then proceeds to tell me they suspect I am DUI because Barney saw me swerving. I ask Gomer if he would like to see the video of my four camera's and compare them to Barney's one camera. Gomer then starts asking all kinds of questions about the videos. I show him a sample on my cell phone of the uploaded stream. I ask Gomer if I am being detained for anything and if not am I free to go. He tells me to wait a moment and goes to Barney's SUV. Two minutes later my guest is back in my vehicle smiling and both Barney and Gomer are telling me that my guest was a known prostitute. Imagine how shocked I was to hear that! I turned to her and said "you mean to tell me I wouldn't have gotten lucky if I didn't take you out for dinner earlier?" She busted up laughing. Barney and Gomer tell me Summit County is keeping an eye on places like this because of the human trafficking epidemic here in NE Ohio and how all this leads to sex, drugs and rock 'and roll. When they finish I ask Barney if he is going to write up a citation for reckless op or DUI or anything. No response other than a smile. I ask Gomer the same question. No response, just a smile. I make a point to tell each office I was told I was pulled over for swerving. No response, just smiles. I ask each officer if I am being detained and if not am I free to go. Barney answers yes, Gomer says nothing. I ask Barney to clearly state I am not being detained and am free to go. He complies. Gomer just smiles. I leave and Gomer follows me for a good 5 minutes. I drop my guest off, I go home.
So yeah, you are being watched.
Now all that being said, I am in support of all law enforcement 100%. I appreciate what they do. I know I sound crazy. No matter the profession there are some bad apples. I'm no angel. It's the legal system behind law enforcement that brings out this type of dumb ass behavior. The goal of that night was to self incriminate. Maybe find some drugs, a human traffic victim, but in all reality, catch you in a mistake and self incriminate. If you're being pulled over say as little as possible, don't argue, don't debate the law, respond only with yes sir or no ma'am (ala Al Bundy's organization). Begin to ask for an attorney sooner rather than later.
I never go to the provider's place no matter what. No pussy is worth it. I'll tip for outcall or take out. But at least I am in control of the location. A cheap car date is no fun either. Great when I was younger, not so much now. I never entertain at my house. Why invite trouble?
Tig.
Great post, even better story
Tig: That was a great account of what happened and excellent advice as well. Totally agree with you about NEVER taking a provider to my home, and my days of car dates / BJ are way behind me. Matter of fact I think sitting in a parking lot getting sucked off is way more risky than a no-tell.
FWIW I've been to several places over the last year or so. Couple times to the office, once to steve's, once to Tallmadge and even a visit to the moon mist in Canton. Never had any issues at all. Only difference I can think of is that all my visits were late morning or early afternoon.
[QUOTE=MeTigger;4079011]I can speak to a personal experience I had using a place in south Akron / Coventry area in early 2018. So all in all I had a great time with my guest. It was 8-9 pm, not late by any means. I open the room door to take something out to my vehicle and Barney from Summit County Sheriff is rolling right in front of my door. WTF. So I close and lock the door, tell my guest, she thinks I'm bs'ing, opens door and confirms Barney is parked at the end of the row of buildings. So we agree on a tip and go for another 30 minutes praying the rosary. Great time! So I get ready to exit again and Barney is no where to be seen. My guest and I proceed to leave. I pull out onto SR93 heading north and roll right past Barney sitting in the parking lot of the optometrist just up the road. Sure enough he pulls out and follows. My guest is freaking out. Barney lights us up and pulls us over 100 yrds short of the freeway. I tell / coach my guest to STFU, sit still, and say NOTHING, no matter what, say absolutely NOTHING. Barney comes to passenger window, I tell him it does not work. That pisses him off. He comes to my window and it starts. He tells me I was swerving and that's why he pulled me over. I asked if he would like to see the video from the four dash cams I have in my vehicle and compare to the video he has. The veins are pulsing in Barney's neck now. He doesn't ask for my drivers license, registration, or proof of insurance. I remind him again he is being recorded. He tells me to wait and he goes back to his SUV. As he turns and leaves I ask if I am being detained for anything and get no response. At about that time deputy Gomer Pyle rolls up and talks with Barney. Gomer comes to my window and asks for drivers license, etc. He tells me Barney will take my passenger to his vehicle as she may be on a missing person's report they have. I unlock the passenger door and my guest goes with Barney. Gomer then proceeds to tell me they suspect I am DUI because Barney saw me swerving. I ask Gomer if he would like to see the video of my four camera's and compare them to Barney's one camera. Gomer then starts asking all kinds of questions about the videos. I show him a sample on my cell phone of the uploaded stream. I ask Gomer if I am being detained for anything and if not am I free to go. He tells me to wait a moment and goes to Barney's SUV. Two minutes later my guest is back in my vehicle smiling and both Barney and Gomer are telling me that my guest was a known prostitute. Imagine how shocked I was to hear that! I turned to her and said "you mean to tell me I wouldn't have gotten lucky if I didn't take you out for dinner earlier?" She busted up laughing. Barney and Gomer tell me Summit County is keeping an eye on places like this because of the human trafficking epidemic here in NE Ohio and how all this leads to sex, drugs and rock 'and roll. When they finish I ask Barney if he is going to write up a citation for reckless op or DUI or anything. No response other than a smile. I ask Gomer the same question. No response, just a smile. I make a point to tell each office I was told I was pulled over for swerving. No response, just smiles. I ask each officer if I am being detained and if not am I free to go. Barney answers yes, Gomer says nothing. I ask Barney to clearly state I am not being detained and am free to go. He complies. Gomer just smiles. I leave and Gomer follows me for a good 5 minutes. I drop my guest off, I go home.
So yeah, you are being watched.
Now all that being said, I am in support of all law enforcement 100%. I appreciate what they do. I know I sound crazy. No matter the profession there are some bad apples. I'm no angel. It's the legal system behind law enforcement that brings out this type of dumb ass behavior. The goal of that night was to self incriminate. Maybe find some drugs, a human traffic victim, but in all reality, catch you in a mistake and self incriminate. If you're being pulled over say as little as possible, don't argue, don't debate the law, respond only with yes sir or no ma'am (ala Al Bundy's organization). Begin to ask for an attorney sooner rather than later.
I never go to the provider's place no matter what. No pussy is worth it. I'll tip for outcall or take out. But at least I am in control of the location. A cheap car date is no fun either. Great when I was younger, not so much now. I never entertain at my house. Why invite trouble?
Tig.[/QUOTE]
Two Exceptions to the Drug Use Issue:
[QUOTE=SpinnerLover69;4076911]A few reasons to comment on what guys fork over and why its a terrible idea for huge amounts. This site is not only for exchanging information but also for advice. And along with staying away from dangerous or somehow other bad situations, giving advice on how much is too much and explaining why is good. For example many people overpay for many things, auto repair / house work, etc when they don't know better. I think many guys do this here, thinking that well that's the rate, without thinking. Here are the facts: we are way way way more important to them than they are to us. Every one of these girls are drug addicts. Yes they are, there are no exceptions. No girl is going to have sex with a random guy without ever even seeing a picture of them without this being true. And the reason they are doing this is because they either are incapable of having a job due to their habit or if they could have a job all they would be able to handle is a minimum wage job that wouldn't pay enough to cover their habit. To give one of these girls 150 bucks for 20 minutes of fun is absurd. Doctors / lawyers who do life saving work make on average 60 bucks per hour as studies show. They go through many many years of grueling schoolwork, but guys are shelling out 250 for an hour for these girls? Think about that. Also without us these girls would starve and be dopesick which is very debilitating. They depend on us, we don't depend on them. Simple economics has the leverage in our hands. I know beating off to porn may not be as exciting sometimes but we can do that, these girls have no other means of getting the money they need for their habit. I refuse to pay over 70 for a qv and 50-60 is more often the case. Think about it: for 15 minutes of work these non educated, drug addicted dependent girls are making 60 bucks tax free, that's more than enough for 15 minutes of "work". Does anyone here make 80 bucks per hour on their job? If you do you probably have a highly skilled position with a lot of stress and responsibilities. Also the most basic reason to not shell out big bucks for these girls is because if guys stopped paying that rate they would be forced to lower them substantially. That helps all of us.[/QUOTE]There are two girls in Canton who are the exception to the rule. Other than a little pot once in awhile Debbie and Angel are not into the heavy drug use. No spider bits or other marks. No drama, no rip off or any other such things. They are mature women and are really fun to be with and they do put an effort into their sessions. Hope this helps some of you looking for a safe incall and a good provider.
Jimmy: