The Raleigh area "Sugar Bowl" (SA, WYP, SD4 ME)

[QUOTE=SaintMan3500;7332483]I have some "wonderful"(eyeroll) news, guys! Seeking will be increasing their prices by up to 25%, on July 8th!

[URL]https://blog.seeking.com/membership-prices-are-changing-but-yours-doesnt-have-to[/URL]

Finding a decent arrangement without dealing with pic sellers, GPS, scammers, or paid meet & greet only bozo's was already a nightmare.[/QUOTE]Add in the fact that Gift Cards do not seem to be accepted as payment and no wonder people are not upgrading their memberships.

I've had a few ladies mention that they only discuss specifics in person, is this normal. I've been hesitant to meet someone without at least knowing if we are on the same page, don't have the free time to waste. Figured I'd see if I'm just being too strict on that or if it's a red flag?

[QUOTE=BeltWayGuy;7337725]I've had a few ladies mention that they only discuss specifics in person, is this normal. I've been hesitant to meet someone without at least knowing if we are on the same page, don't have the free time to waste. Figured I'd see if I'm just being too strict on that or if it's a red flag?[/QUOTE]Meet somewhere very convenient for you. Once you meet tell her up front you only have 10-15 minutes to chat. If things go well and you are on the same page, then tell her you'll blow off your important meeting and start your date. Also, don't fall for a 'Dine and Dash' scam. If they want to discuss specifics in person, but mention a gift requirement for the M&G — proceed with extreme caution.

[QUOTE=BeltWayGuy;7337725]I've had a few ladies mention that they only discuss specifics in person, is this normal. I've been hesitant to meet someone without at least knowing if we are on the same page, don't have the free time to waste. Figured I'd see if I'm just being too strict on that or if it's a red flag?[/QUOTE]Some SB entire business model is paid meet and greets. They do one every day or every other day. Never have to put out. Stop perpetuating this with paid M&G. There are more stories of dine and dash than successes. Point of this forum is to share experiences and give us an edge. If they aren't DTF after a day or two of chatting it's onto the next. No time for games, it's a marketplace not a dating site. I'd rather eat dinner alone than pay for someone to eat dinner with me and I'd frankly like to enjoy my meal in peace than listen to gen z yapping.

[QUOTE=AlphaQ82;7337254]Yea, she will tell you her SOB stories. I treated her to lunch and then also gave her a bit of cash to help her out. Crickets since then. Nothing mutual about that.[/QUOTE]Yep she will invite you to RC and tell that you have to spend at least 3 for going out for a dream outside.

[QUOTE=Swimback;7338334]Some SB entire business model is paid meet and greets. They do one every day or every other day. Never have to put out. Stop perpetuating this with paid M&G. There are more stories of dine and dash than successes. Point of this forum is to share experiences and give us an edge. If they aren't DTF after a day or two of chatting it's onto the next. No time for games, it's a marketplace not a dating site. I'd rather eat dinner alone than pay for someone to eat dinner with me and I'd frankly like to enjoy my meal in peace than listen to gen z yapping.[/QUOTE]This is absolutely right. I've also stated this position on the Reddit SLF sub. Never pay for Meet & Greets. These are two way interviews. You have no idea who or what she is before you meet her. I've had one that was 120+ lbs heavier than her pictures. I've had absolutely obnoxious chicks show up. I've had street skanks that I was completely embarrassed to be out in public with show up when their pictures made them look like upscale fashion models. If she needs to be paid for you to buy her dinner, she is no good. You want the girl that shows up and makes you long to want to get her in bed, to make you think she's worth more than she's asking for. The top talent will convince you at a M&G. Imagine if a job seeker was demanding to be paid to show up for a job interview. Why would a company pay for something that provided them no value, no return on investment? You'd probably think that candidate thinks they had no shot at getting the job anyway, right? You'd think they had no respect for the hiring manager, right? My standard response to this is "I have no shortage of beautiful women that can accompany me to dinner. What I'm looking for is to find an attractive, engaging woman to satisfy my needs in a no strings capacity. When I find the right one, my plan is to have this be a regular situation, which could be quite lucrative for you, and efficient for me. If you'd like to explore our compatibility first, before we are physical, I'm fine with that too and will pay for our meal and drinks, I just don't intend to pay for physical things when those services aren't being provided". If we all universally say no to this, it stops.

[QUOTE=GoodBoyce;7339609]Yep she will invite you to RC and tell that you have to spend at least 3 for going out for a dream outside.[/QUOTE]This gets to a much larger observation I've made the hard way. Stay away from strippers you meet on SB sites! It sounds nice in theory: someone who uses sexuality for a living and seems like they would be amazing partners in bed. What I find, though, is that they are stingiest when it comes to sex. They have learned the art of the hustle and that's what they do with every guy they meet. Get another dollar and keep moving the goalposts until eventually your wallet runs dry. Probably many of you found this out already but I guess I finally learned the lesson.

Does anyone know anything about Evie? Her profile says seeking trans-friendly which would usually be a no go for me but she dances at Ricks which seems odd if she still has junk. Just curious if anyone has details. Feel free to PM if you don't want to share privately.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/427a73c3-05a5-40a3-9691-be8f73039f93[/URL]

[QUOTE=GentleGiant78;7342429]Does anyone know anything about Evie? Her profile says seeking trans-friendly which would usually be a no go for me but she dances at Ricks which seems odd if she still has junk. Just curious if anyone has details. Feel free to PM if you don't want to share privately.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/427a73c3-05a5-40a3-9691-be8f73039f93[/URL][/QUOTE]I assume she's open to SD that's trans.

[QUOTE=Sanp420;7342502]I assume she's open to SD that's trans.[/QUOTE]Experienced trans spotter here. At least 70% that person is trans. Dick tucking is a thing, post op is a thing. Skill you must have is you plan on going to South American cities or southeast asia.

[QUOTE=Swimback;7342886]Experienced trans spotter here. At least 70% that person is trans. Dick tucking is a thing, post op is a thing. Skill you must have is you plan on going to South American cities or southeast asia.[/QUOTE]She could also be using that tag to filter out intolerant candidates.

[QUOTE=Swimback;7342886]Experienced trans spotter here. At least 70% that person is trans. Dick tucking is a thing, post op is a thing. Skill you must have is you plan on going to South American cities or southeast asia.[/QUOTE]I agree with you. I'm at least 70% sure as well. This is definitely something that would be wise for her to be more clear about.

[QUOTE=MmceStep;7343069]I agree with you. I'm at least 70% sure as well. This is definitely something that would be wise for her to be more clear about.[/QUOTE]Ok someone need to get those private photos to confirm LOL.

Reminder for everyone in this hobby, don't pay to meet for dinner LOL.

[URL]https://www.facebook.com/share/v/1JWMUYsgXH/[/URL]

[QUOTE=Aamogdem;7345910]Reminder for everyone in this hobby, don't pay to meet for dinner LOL.

[URL]https://www.facebook.com/share/v/1JWMUYsgXH/[/URL][/QUOTE]I'm not mad at her, I'm mad at those of you who allow them to get this comfortable with it.