[QUOTE=WiseGuy620;2364727]Do you recall the rates?[/QUOTE]It's. 70/ hr. I don't recall of she does a half hour.
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[QUOTE=WiseGuy620;2364727]Do you recall the rates?[/QUOTE]It's. 70/ hr. I don't recall of she does a half hour.
[URL]http://detroit.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/new-year-new-management-new-masseuse-satisfaction-guarantee-248-844-3911/18429834[/URL]
Visited this place a couple of weeks ago.
Chinese lady in her early or mid 40's and she seemed like the only provider there.
Rate was 70/ hour and it was the best massage I had so far in Michigan.
HE was available but no touch allowed and it had to be self-served.
Not sure if I want to repeat though.
[QUOTE=HeeJung47;2363766]Once again I will have to play enforcer here. There is no way that there is any "pounding" going on at Sophias Spa on Van Dyke. I don't want the fellows to think they can go there and get anything more than HJ and a great massage. The Chinese-Korean spas are strickly HE spas and never, ever, ever anything more.[/QUOTE]I was at Sophia's about a year ago as a return visit to the site where I broke my "AMP cherry". Good massage with plenty of teasing. He part of the service. FS is not allowed and could cost the provider her job. She did surprise me though when she agreed to lay down beside me and allowed me to lift her top and bra and lick her cute tiny nipples. Door to the room is left ajar and walls are partitions which provides very little privacy. Any "pounding" had to be in the form of a dry hump. All the ladies wore thick white jeans, were cute and stuck to the rules for the most part. Haven't been back. ACU at Tele and 7 is a level up from this place and offers way more privacy and "extras". No FS at this site as well.
[QUOTE=Domman134;2365319][URL]http://detroit.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/new-year-new-management-new-masseuse-satisfaction-guarantee-248-844-3911/18429834[/URL]
Visited this place a couple of weeks ago.
Chinese lady in her early or mid 40's and she seemed like the only provider there.
Rate was 70/ hour and it was the best massage I had so far in Michigan.
HE was available but no touch allowed and it had to be self-served.
Not sure if I want to repeat though.[/QUOTE
Too bad!
[QUOTE=Spaguy45;2365316]It's. 70/ hr. I don't recall of she does a half hour.[/QUOTE]What did you pay total for massage and HE?
I am tired of playing guessing games. I know some might find it exciting but here is my new bag. I go in for the massage. I get FULLY UNDRESSED so there is no mistake there is no shame here. At the beginning of the massage if the provider is not already making me happy I reach to rub their legs while receiving my massage. If they jump back and act surprised I immediately react saying "Am I in the wrong place?" at this point they can show me I am not or if they say yes I am in the wrong place I can immediately hop up and start getting dressed. Some providers will have the nerve to watch you getting dressed as if they are offended. I get fully dressed and hold my hand out for my money and that's when it gets real to them. I do not leave until they give me all my money back.
Some will try to be slick and keep 20 bucks. That's why you acted immediately so you won't get any I massaged you for 20 minute garbage.
Some will complain about some house rule garbage. That's hwy you acted immediately because you wanted no misunderstandings.
These rules I follow whenever I try a new place because I have found myself spending 100 a pop laying through continuous sessions of disappointment where at the end the provider is putting on some act about how they don't do that there or no understand.
When you jeopardize the profit at the beginning everyone understands English real well.
What are your thoughts?
[QUOTE=MassageMe4;2366109]I am tired of playing guessing games. I know some might find it exciting but here is my new bag. I go in for the massage. I get FULLY UNDRESSED so there is no mistake there is no shame here. At the beginning of the massage if the provider is not already making me happy I reach to rub their legs while receiving my massage. If they jump back and act surprised I immediately react saying "Am I in the wrong place?" at this point they can show me I am not or if they say yes I am in the wrong place I can immediately hop up and start getting dressed. Some providers will have the nerve to watch you getting dressed as if they are offended. I get fully dressed and hold my hand out for my money and that's when it gets real to them. I do not leave until they give me all my money back.
Some will try to be slick and keep 20 bucks. That's why you acted immediately so you won't get any I massaged you for 20 minute garbage.
Some will complain about some house rule garbage. That's hwy you acted immediately because you wanted no misunderstandings.
These rules I follow whenever I try a new place because I have found myself spending 100 a pop laying through continuous sessions of disappointment where at the end the provider is putting on some act about how they don't do that there or no understand.
When you jeopardize the profit at the beginning everyone understands English real well.
What are your thoughts?[/QUOTE]Great post of rules, if we all followed them prices would drop! Service would go up, but have you ever had an AMP that pulled away at first, only to tease, then dive head on??I like your "play," but there is still that "darkness", is she, isn't she, will she, that drives me to a lot of AMPs. To sample. I would save a ton of money if I could use your play! Good report for all! Drk.
[QUOTE=Domman134;2365302]Long time lurker and first time posting.
Visited this girl with the following link in backpage.
[URL]http://detroit.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/new-asian-girl-just-arrivals-248-835-8709/18352351[/URL]
Mid or late 40's, not so well maintained body.
Decent massage with plenty of teasing but too pricy for an hour massage. (80 for an hour).
On the flip, she asked 60 for HE with the top off, I was stunned but I had no choice but to agree on 40 at that point.
When everything was over, it was only 45 minutes for the total damage of 140.
Will never repeat.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Domman134;2365319][URL]http://detroit.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/new-year-new-management-new-masseuse-satisfaction-guarantee-248-844-3911/18429834[/URL]
Visited this place a couple of weeks ago.
Chinese lady in her early or mid 40's and she seemed like the only provider there.
Rate was 70/ hour and it was the best massage I had so far in Michigan.
HE was available but no touch allowed and it had to be self-served.
Not sure if I want to repeat though.[/QUOTE]Just looking for clarification! The one in Southfield charged 80 for the hour and wanted 60 for tip and you gave 40? So did you pay 120 and not 140? And the one in Rochester was HE available / given? Or was it actually self serve?
Hello all,
I will be in your city next month on business and would appreciate any intel. I visited M-1 a few years ago and got a great massage by a girl named Shampoo. Is this still a good place to visit or would anyone recommend a better alternative? PM if you prefer. I am happy to share if anyone is coming down to the buckeye state.
Thanks TTM.
[QUOTE=DarkSideOfMe;2366224]Great post of rules, if we all followed them prices would drop! Service would go up, but have you ever had an AMP that pulled away at first, only to tease, then dive head on??I like your "play," but there is still that "darkness", is she, isn't she, will she, that drives me to a lot of AMPs. To sample. I would save a ton of money if I could use your play! Good report for all! Drk.[/QUOTE]So what are your rules for those that don't venture to the dark side? Are they repeats? Assuming you don't wait the length of time for that girl to be out of rotation if its not their own place of business what do you do? We don't have any Japanese bath houses or High Tech after hour brothels references at our fingertips so we are kind of slowly falling the mercy of crappy price hikes from over our over paying buddies or super crafty providers. Canada just changed the laws which will take some time before we can feel our way back out over there for anything whatsoever. The resources are drying up so fast so we have to change something for a better market.
Some how we need to revamp the practices if not the rules into the right direction.
So you wonder about a provider if she would she could she? What's the most efficient way to find out without spending over 20 bucks. I can stand to take a loss at 20 bucks for an answer. Assuming they have another type of service I actually would be interested in I could stand to loose 50 to find out. How do we flood the market with strange request so that LE is not even an issue because there is no way to classify what just went down and we come out financially on top?
Anyone?
[QUOTE=MassageMe4;2367051]So what are your rules for those that don't venture to the dark side? Are they repeats? Assuming you don't wait the length of time for that girl to be out of rotation if its not their own place of business what do you do? We don't have any Japanese bath houses or High Tech after hour brothels references at our fingertips so we are kind of slowly falling the mercy of crappy price hikes from over our over paying buddies or super crafty providers. Canada just changed the laws which will take some time before we can feel our way back out over there for anything whatsoever. The resources are drying up so fast so we have to change something for a better market.
Some how we need to revamp the practices if not the rules into the right direction.
So you wonder about a provider if she would she could she? What's the most efficient way to find out without spending over 20 bucks. I can stand to take a loss at 20 bucks for an answer. Assuming they have another type of service I actually would be interested in I could stand to loose 50 to find out. How do we flood the market with strange request so that LE is not even an issue because there is no way to classify what just went down and we come out financially on top?
Anyone?[/QUOTE]You have raised a lot of great questions about AMPs, and the massage game, I have been doing this for a long time and I can only tell you this, I have rolled back 50% on AMP visits, and massage girls. I only visit the places, girls with good reviews, I'm not from Detroit, but when I travel on BUSS. (wink, wink) I read the post, have been on the board for weeks, trying to gather all the info. I can. So when I get to Detroit I will know whos going to the" Darkside"with me! I also have wasted $1000's on poor service, strip clubs, indies, poor providers over the years, so if I can't stack the" odds" with all the help we have on this board for good providers, I just pass. I don't think you will find a rule for this" Game"we are playing, no one likes to waste money, ups, downs, disappointment, for poor service. Drksd stay safe my friends.
Any new reports on Anna's girls in wayne apartments?
VCyclonn.
[QUOTE=ZenSpeed;2363031]Did a forum search, didn't find much on this place, it's close to my residence, thinking about going. Any reports?[/QUOTE]This is one of the better places. If Cindy is still working there you definitely want to request her, she's a young cutie with a nice body. She comes and goes so may not always be available. She gives a very teasing soft touch just prior to the HE, including light breathing on your back and grazing her lips on your skin. Roaming is permitted, she even wiggled her butt for me when I grabbed her. HJ only, but one of the best HJs I've gotten.
[QUOTE=Guyneedsfun;2361851]Yes they are closed and Annie is back in China. The owner now gives massages in downtown Rochester (can't remember name of the new location but think it had a flower name. Maybe lottus). Hand release but massage isn't great and owner is not attractive.[/QUOTE]There was a report a while back about a younger babe being spotted here. I remember Susie ran Xingyue by herself for a while before Annie came to work for her. If Susie is also the owner of Lazy Lotus maybe she will (or is) doing the same now.
[QUOTE=MassageMe4;2367051]So what are your rules for those that don't venture to the dark side? Are they repeats? Assuming you don't wait the length of time for that girl to be out of rotation if its not their own place of business what do you do? We don't have any Japanese bath houses or High Tech after hour brothels references at our fingertips so we are kind of slowly falling the mercy of crappy price hikes from over our over paying buddies or super crafty providers. Canada just changed the laws which will take some time before we can feel our way back out over there for anything whatsoever. The resources are drying up so fast so we have to change something for a better market.
Some how we need to revamp the practices if not the rules into the right direction.
So you wonder about a provider if she would she could she? What's the most efficient way to find out without spending over 20 bucks. I can stand to take a loss at 20 bucks for an answer. Assuming they have another type of service I actually would be interested in I could stand to loose 50 to find out. How do we flood the market with strange request so that LE is not even an issue because there is no way to classify what just went down and we come out financially on top?
Anyone?[/QUOTE]Laws changed in Canada? What laws are you referring to? I've been there many times. No hassle FS as long as they keep their licence up to date.