Massage Parlor Reports

Every conversation about tipping turns into a pissing contest and no real info manages to slip through. For any / all valid advice on tipping please do a search on the subject and you will see all you need.

Now. Back on main point. What is open nowadays in DC?

JJ.

[QUOTE=Bunker Buster; 1203218]People want to talk about tips because they're a relevant part of the hobby. If you don't like some of the topics, you can skip over them, but no one needs to be telling people what to stop talking about on a discussion forum.

Regards[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=BlkPrinceVa; 1202998]Based on the responses to our respective posts: 1) I should have tipped something, even if it was small. I agree and will do so in the future; and 2) Hobbiest like you are driving the cost up by paying way too much for minimal service. It's interesting you never answered my original question so I'll assume that you paid the house 80 and tipped 80 for a total of 160 for standard service. If this is what it takes to pursue this hobby in NoVa, I'll be retiring soon.

Question for the forum: Are we all in agreement that the HJ / HE is an extra service? Isn't this the minimum that we pursue this hobby for? If not, we're saying that we're paying 80 for a massage and maybe a table shower? Is that the general consensus?[/QUOTE]I guess you will be retiring soon. It's interesting that I clearly stated my tip breakdown in my post and if anyone was a senior with established bona fides, they could PM me for more info. Happy mongering.

Yes its discussion forum and I know all suspects of this hobby should be discussed here. But why every time we get into talk about tipping it becomes pages long? And its always about the same old, same old. We all know the guidelines, what to tip for what type of service, if some decides to tip more, or less, it's their thing. The rest of us do not have to agree, but pages and pages of talk will not change anything. And since we are in this, I don't mind to tip more than standard, it just depends on situation I'm in. And, since its discussion forum, no one should tell me that I cannot express my opinion here. We all should just have fun.

Almost forgot to report. Visited FCCC three times in past two weeks. Great services provided by girl with ink on her stomach. Flat fee is another thing I like about this place. No upsell. You all know what to do if you want details.

So this report is 2 weeks late but given I just had a relevant comparative experience in NYC, perhaps the delay is fortuitous.

Anyway, went to the TCCC for the first time on 5/14. Why to people only talk about the FCCC? Do they just conflates all the different condos? I actually had no idea ahead of time the number I had would lead me to Tyson's, but it turns out that is a convenient place for me. So, I like this whole condo thing. I never really cared that much for TS (but was surprised Wendy did not offer me standing shower. Maybe because it was raining in a Biblical fashion outside). What I really like is the no-haggle all inclusive $.6 pricing. That is an especially useful thing in NOVA.

About Wendy: massage was so-so and other stuff unenthusiastic. Pretty nice looking, but well into her 30s or beyond. No DATY allowed (though she said that was specifically a condition of this particular visit). She was nice and tight were it counted. She had me out of there in about 30 minutes flat, which is probably the most rushed hour session I've ever had. Wouldn't have minded if service was better though, as I'm not going there to kill time.

Now the comparo: just finished a session with Chanel at Luxy Asian Girls in NYC. This place is actual an Apartment AMP (ie multiple girls and the MMS in an undisclosed location). Unlike the Condos here, these things advertise just like normal AMPs, but just phone number. 2 call system to get address. The bigger difference is that they keep a fairly stable stable of girls and actually list them with real pictures (photoshopped to hell of course) on their website. The advantage of this is you can actually check for reviews of the girls on another site and such and they often have them. Still no haggle pricing, but it is $$ instead of $.6. Anyway, the point of all this is that Chanel was worth the extra 40 bucks over Wendy, but that should not be a surprise as she has multiple good reviews. She wasn't better looking (to my taste at least) , but her massage and others were multiple levels beyond Wendy's and the session lasted a full hour.

Just returned from a visit with Yung at Papaya. She is fresh in from NYC and did the job well for NoVA fare.

$80 for the hour plus $40 for the tip.

JJ

Seen a few posts on BP about a new place near the country club, this place is right around the corner from me. Was wondering if anyone had been since I'm still new to the AMP world. Visited one in landmark a few months ago and all my other experience has been with independents so I'm skeptical of most places and not sure what all I should look out for.

[QUOTE=Hofi35;1203719]Yes its discussion forum and I know all suspects of this hobby should be discussed here. But why every time we get into talk about tipping it becomes pages long? And its always about the same old, same old. We all know the guidelines, what to tip for what type of service, if some decides to tip more, or less, it's their thing. The rest of us do not have to agree, but pages and pages of talk will not change anything. And since we are in this, I don't mind to tip more than standard, it just depends on situation I'm in. And, since its discussion forum, no one should tell me that I cannot express my opinion here. We all should just have fun.[/QUOTE]Telling people to shut up is indeed expressing an opinion, but it's a wet blanket onto the valid discussions of other contributing participants in an open forum.

I appreciate your reviews and contributions, and your insight into the hobby, but I think you're letting your dislike of the topic of tipping become an I'dée fixe.

Considering that the amount of tip expected for service changes over time, and that cost is one of the big 3 factors in the hobby (with service and safety probably the other two) , telling people not to talk about tipping, ie, how much service costs, is like telling them to stop talking about how they define GFE.

You might as well go into a stock-trading forum and tell people to shut up already about fees and commissions. Do the E-Trade baby commercials bother you too?

Once upon a time, I could go to an AMP in DC, pay the house 60, and for a 100 tip, get everything I was thinking about. Now I find that the same amounts are being paid for a Nova standard. I learned this by reading it here, to my surprise and dismay.

I find the discussions on tipping helpful to gauge the market over time, and also to try to dissuade newbies from overtipping and both wasting their money and driving up costs and expectations.

There are plenty of topics and discussions on the various boards that don't interest me, but I accept having to scroll past them as the cost of participating in an open forum.

We know you don't care for tip (I. E,"cost") discussions, so just skip past them, read the reviews you like, and as an established senior, feel free to PM me or anyone else for more details on things that interest you.

I decided to try a VA parlor for a bit of a change of pace today. I travel to Baltimore often enough that I'm able to take advantage of the fantastic establishments on the north side of that city, and I hadn't been to a NOVA or DC place since most of the DuPont area spots disappeared. In general, I think both the ladies and the experiences are better up north than around here. However, YMMV at any place at any time.

I stopped in, and I think I was the only one there. Until someone came in just a couple minutes after I did. Mamasan collected the. 8 hour house fee, and sent in Judy, who later said her name was Kim (?). In any case, she was about 5' 3" and about 140-150 lbs, in her early 40s (she later told me she was 42). Not really my style, but she came in as the other gentleman was being escorted to his room, and I figured I wouldn't ask for a switch. The TS was nice and thorough, with attention paid to all the right areas. Back in the room she helped me dry off a bit more, and then she put on some music and went to work.

Her massage skills are above average, and she does a nice job of mixing good pressure with a light touch. I didn't attempt to roam, and she later told me I was a gentleman. Apparently she doesn't like folks who do that, so I suspect it's not really on her menu. Normally I like to roam, but not this time, so I guess I should be happy I got "credit" for it.

After working the kinks out it was time for the flip. After a bit more massage, we chatted for awhile about her life in the states. She then began suggesting what else might be available for. 6, and she just wasn't interested in the. 4 that I thought was appropriate. I don't like to argue for a long time. Talking someone into doing something for less than what she thinks it's worth just doesn't work well in my experience. Plus it kills the mood. So I just had her finish working out a knot in my shoulder, and then she helped me get dressed and left. I was there for 70 minutes, so I left her. 3 for the additional time and the fact it had been a nice massage. I met BeBe on my way out, she seems to have a bit of a wilder spark that Judy / Kim has. I may return for her.

I hadn't tasted any peaches & cream since winter, but I decided to go back today. I drew Lucky; she has a sexy smoker's voice, some light brown highlights in her hair, bee cups, early 30s, about 5'6", a very nice smile, and a pleasant, laid back manner.

Overall, I got the impression that she is observant and varies the session to meet the client's needs. For example, my feet are pretty beat up. She noticed this during the TS and proceeded to use some kind of block to buff them, and then really worked them over. After she was satisfied with her work, she went back to the standard TS rubbing and scrubbing. She then started a soapy massage that felt really good.

Back in the room, she saw that my muscles were tight and then went with a hard massage, which was just what I needed. Early in the session, she spread her legs and kind of propelled herself from my waist to my upper back, using her knees to work out the kinks. She also used her feet in the massage more than any therapist I've had. And she also devoted more time to back walking than other therapists I've seen. After the flip, she had me put the bottoms of my feet together with my knees sticking out, and by standing on my feet in just the right way (it looked like she was doing a dance) , caused my knees to move towards the floor, which stretched the muscles in my inner thighs very nicely. I should emphasize that in addition to the quality of the massage, Lucky was playful, though it is sometimes hard to understand what she was saying.

Once she stripped down to her panties, she became more playful, having a certain part of her anatomy "talk" to me. No touching there, unfortunately. We moved to some Russian, and then a lot of eye contact during the main event.

She used some towels on me, helped me dress, and then gave me a bottle of water. She mentioned that she does two-hour sessions (I suppose business is slow) and that she works every day.

Happy hunting

[QUOTE=BlkPrinceVa; 1202998]Based on the responses to our respective posts: 1) I should have tipped something, even if it was small. I agree and will do so in the future; and 2) Hobbiest like you are driving the cost up by paying way too much for minimal service. It's interesting you never answered my original question so I'll assume that you paid the house 80 and tipped 80 for a total of 160 for standard service. If this is what it takes to pursue this hobby in NoVa, I'll be retiring soon.

Question for the forum: Are we all in agreement that the HJ / HE is an extra service? Isn't this the minimum that we pursue this hobby for? If not, we're saying that we're paying 80 for a massage and maybe a table shower? Is that the general consensus? [/QUOTE]Dude,

$80 for an hour in NOVA is a rip off IMHO. However it is what it is now. $60 for a half hr is even worse deal. This is what I pay in CA for 1 hour, HJ, roaming etc. I have even gotten a girl in a private residence thats does this occassionally to $65 for massagi and FS and 2 pops with the 2nd a HJ.

Anyway, the tips subject can go ad nauseum. Standard was. 40 but with inflation its. 60 I gather whatever you give is what you give. I give whatever I feel right and I don't give a shit what anybody thinks as no one here pays my car payment, insurance or mortgage.

PC out

Long time away travelling for business abroad, I am back in the area to enjoy some Korean relaxation. My therapist at CTM was Yumi who gave a friendly welcome upon arrival. For those who know Sara, I found Yumi a bit more attractive and friendly than Sara but she is not a spinner or young. Yumi gives a great table shower, she does massage you a bit while you're being washed. No sauna in this venue. Back in the room; her massage skills are definitely above average. While her massage is sensual she also provided a very proficient and strong therapeutic massage with some stretching. Standard VA finish but very nicely done. After finish she continued massaging me to fill the hour. Overall positive experience and would recommend her.

Glance back through the Forum, and see what is beneficial. Prior to 2005, most of us could pick up information fairly easy. A number of you have already said the same thing, so here I'm laboring the same comments.

Fees are $60 for a half hour, or $80 for an hour. Just accept it or give this hobby up; the girls split with the house doesn't change our hourly rate. On tips, suggest using $40 (never more) for a HJ, $60 for bare, and then $80-120 for the max. For your ATF, that is between the two of you.

What's important. The places to visit or not, which girls are special or not, and the fact it is worth our time and money. For additional details & suggestions, we can PM whoever we want.

Thought I'the check out this office park location, just to get a feel for the place for possible later visits. A chunky woman in her 30s came to the door, told me they were busy, could I come back, it was. 8 / hr. She looked young for MMS, but not attractive enough to be the talent. I asked if Yung worked there (I had heard good things about her) , she shook her head no, 'all new. ' Hmmm.

Driving around the building, I spotted a sign for a sunny place I wasn't aware of, so I stopped and rang the bell. A middle-aged woman came to the door, she seemed to have difficulty speaking, asked me to come back. Asked how much for massage, she responded with some strange hand gestures. I said I didn't understand, she said. 6 / hh, .8 / hr. I asked if she gave the massage. She said yes. Pass.

I'll shut up. First thanks for the appreciation. Second, I read the forum every couple of days and I read everything. Just like you've said there is always some usefull info. Third I understand that tipping discussion is as important as any other. I think tip info should be in every report. It just appears to me that one person overtipping at one place one girl one time is not going to raise it for the rest of us. Same like one guy undertipping is not doing us favor by lowering the price. Ok now I shut up.

[QUOTE=Bunker Buster; 1204165]Telling people to shut up is indeed expressing an opinion, but it's a wet blanket onto the valid discussions of other contributing participants in an open forum.

I appreciate your reviews and contributions, and your insight into the hobby, but I think you're letting your dislike of the topic of tipping become an I'dée fixe.

Considering that the amount of tip expected for service changes over time, and that cost is one of the big 3 factors in the hobby (with service and safety probably the other two) , telling people not to talk about tipping, ie, how much service costs, is like telling them to stop talking about how they define GFE.

You might as well go into a stock-trading forum and tell people to shut up already about fees and commissions. Do the E-Trade baby commercials bother you too?

Once upon a time, I could go to an AMP in DC, pay the house 60, and for a 100 tip, get everything I was thinking about. Now I find that the same amounts are being paid for a Nova standard. I learned this by reading it here, to my surprise and dismay.

I find the discussions on tipping helpful to gauge the market over time, and also to try to dissuade newbies from overtipping and both wasting their money and driving up costs and expectations.

There are plenty of topics and discussions on the various boards that don't interest me, but I accept having to scroll past them as the cost of participating in an open forum.

We know you don't care for tip (I. E,"cost") discussions, so just skip past them, read the reviews you like, and as an established senior, feel free to PM me or anyone else for more details on things that interest you. [/QUOTE]