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[QUOTE=Crtchadialhntr;2773087]I have not seen her so this is just general opinion. I agree her photos are really hot, I have wanted to see her myself but everytime I have time she only offers outcall. From what others have posted about her it sounds like she may get mostly one timers and not much repeat. That can mean something or nothing. If she needs money for room or whatever you will start getting those calls and it would not put me off personally, just a sales call.

On talking provider down on price. Lots of people do it but it has always seemed like a bad move to me. A hot girl is going to agree to let you be with her without ever setting eyes on you, what's that worth to you? The price she sets is what she values herself at or what she needs to get by. If you save 20 or 40 dollars is it really worth it? She now sees you as cheap, you have told her essentially she isn't worth what she thinks she is. How good a time do you think she will be after that? Did you save 20 dollars or waste the hundred you gave her for the visit? Some providers really aren't worth what they ask, I just don't contact them.

Not criticizing you for looking for a deal. Lots of people do. Just my opinion.[/QUOTE]Absolutely SPOT. ON, sir.

I always keep in mind that these women are mothers, sisters, cousins, etc. And they are sharing time and their bodies with me (after light screening but NO medical screening), for a fair amount of money. If I call and think that their price is too high, I don't even comment. I make up another excuse for not seeing them just because it is THEIR prerogative to set THEIR price for THEIR goodies. I won't even argue with them. They just aren't for me at that moment. Let's all keep our wits about us but still have some compassion for them, especially the ones who are genuinely nice.

[QUOTE=ToySoldier;2773104]I've had excellent results using the opposite approach. Show up, chick looks hot as hell, doesn't smell like smoke and no signs of drug use, room is clean, etc. Chat with her a bit and see that she's cool and has her head on straight. Then say, "This is going to go really well. I think we're going to enjoy one another's time. I think you're worth more than you're asking so I'm going to go ahead and throw in an extra $100, OK?

The will usually treat you like a king and beg you to come back.

Unfortunately, I've encountered very few that I would offer that up front with.[/QUOTE]Wow, your pockets are definitely deeper than mine. But I also have found even 10 or 20 dollars above normal rate often makes a huge difference. I don't always do it and like you said depends on situation. If they are high they won't remember and it won't make a difference in the visit so no. Also if I know I never want to repeat another no.

[QUOTE=Crtchadialhntr;2773116]Wow, your pockets are definitely deeper than mine. But I also have found even 10 or 20 dollars above normal rate often makes a huge difference. I don't always do it and like you said depends on situation. If they are high they won't remember and it won't make a difference in the visit so no. Also if I know I never want to repeat another no.[/QUOTE]I generally don't tip since you really never know what you're going to get beyond their own price they've given for the service. Sure, it may work and you get a GFE experience of a lifetime, but more often than not, they're attitude is set before you even walked in the door, and they're going to be a good provider or they're not. Someone recently mentioned that curvy blonde MILF who consistently tries to up-sell after you've agreed to a price and paid the donation. Imagine what she'd do if you'd already tipped her a bit more in hopes of good service? In that scenario, you still won't get what you want and the up-selling won't stop. My advice is to generally avoid tipping for yourself, and for the rest of us. Make a deal, stick with it, and dive in.

But each to their own. Just my take on it.

Awesome, friendly, willing girls. I enjoyed my time.

[QUOTE=Timmy55;2772774]I know at least one of you reading this has seen them, can you please share any info. I am also interested. Thank you![/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=GiantG;2771814]I've been talking to her and she seems legit and like she is a little more together than the average BP girl. Just want to see if anyone has a reason not to spend the money. I searched the forum but came up empty. Google is quiet as well.

[URL]http://raleigh.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/barbie-staci-avaiable-for-limited-time-in-rdu-area-call-now-to-boom-appointment/26035010[/URL][/QUOTE]Holy shit! That makes 2 girls I went to high School with are now on BP; only this one I actually fucked in high school. These pics are definitely docktored but its here. I'm I'm not mistaken she is friends with Baby. I wonder if that's how she got into this.

[QUOTE=PleasureSeeker;2773129]I generally don't tip since you really never know what you're going to get beyond their own price they've given for the service. Sure, it may work and you get a GFE experience of a lifetime, but more often than not, they're attitude is set before you even walked in the door, and they're going to be a good provider or they're not. Someone recently mentioned that curvy blonde MILF who consistently tries to up-sell after you've agreed to a price and paid the donation. Imagine what she'd do if you'd already tipped her a bit more in hopes of good service? In that scenario, you still won't get what you want and the up-selling won't stop. My advice is to generally avoid tipping for yourself, and for the rest of us. Make a deal, stick with it, and dive in.

But each to their own. Just my take on it.[/QUOTE]Also a good point. More often than not I do not, just depends on situation. A good girl in need is senario I am most likely to pay above on. Also in doing it you run risk of driving up her prices "if he paid it others will".

I never do up sales with the exception of Roxy who offered something not always available, but that was money well spent.

Anybody else read ads where girl claims to be upscale and misread it as upsale? Maybe just me.

I don't haggle on price. I stay away from the girls who are less than $. They typically aren't the girl in the picture. I try to put myself in the girls shoes. They got to pay for hotel, sometimes pimp, hair, nails, clothes. And I benefit from all of that. I like hot girls and no problems and I'm going to pay the price for that type of service. I may give an extra 20 or 40 but I usually don't have to. I never go over my time, finish earlier than my time mostly.

[QUOTE=Crtchadialhntr;2773160]Also a good point. More often than not I do not, just depends on situation. A good girl in need is senario I am most likely to pay above on. Also in doing it you run risk of driving up her prices "if he paid it others will".

I never do up sales with the exception of Roxy who offered something not always available, but that was money well spent.

Anybody else read ads where girl claims to be upscale and misread it as upsale? Maybe just me.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=PhilandersNc;2773111]Absolutely SPOT. ON, sir.

I always keep in mind that these women are mothers, sisters, cousins, etc. And they are sharing time and their bodies with me (after light screening but NO medical screening), for a fair amount of money. If I call and think that their price is too high, I don't even comment. I make up another excuse for not seeing them just because it is THEIR prerogative to set THEIR price for THEIR goodies. I won't even argue with them. They just aren't for me at that moment. Let's all keep our wits about us but still have some compassion for them, especially the ones who are genuinely nice.[/QUOTE]If rate is not posted and then I get it via text / call and it is too high, I tell them that the rate is more than I have budgeted for play time. I think these ladies need to know that they are losing cash because they are charging too much. I don't haggle, because that just makes both of us think I'm a cheap ass. But I have had a few ladies immediately reduce their rate and gone on to have a good time.

If rate is posted and it's above my budget, I just don't call them.

Good luck out there!

[QUOTE=PleasureSeeker;2773129]I generally don't tip since you really never know what you're going to get beyond their own price they've given for the service. Sure, it may work and you get a GFE experience of a lifetime, but more often than not, they're attitude is set before you even walked in the door, and they're going to be a good provider or they're not. Someone recently mentioned that curvy blonde MILF who consistently tries to up-sell after you've agreed to a price and paid the donation. Imagine what she'd do if you'd already tipped her a bit more in hopes of good service? In that scenario, you still won't get what you want and the up-selling won't stop. My advice is to generally avoid tipping for yourself, and for the rest of us. Make a deal, stick with it, and dive in.

But each to their own. Just my take on it.[/QUOTE]Interesting reading, and I appreciate the shared viewpoints.

I have never tipped, because I only ever bring the exact donation in an envelope. Basically for safety reasons in case of rob / pimp / whatever. At some point, I might have to revisit my methods, but so far, they've worked out ok. Knock on wood.

[QUOTE=Crtchadialhntr;2773087]I have not seen her so this is just general opinion. I agree her photos are really hot, I have wanted to see her myself but everytime I have time she only offers outcall. From what others have posted about her it sounds like she may get mostly one timers and not much repeat. That can mean something or nothing. If she needs money for room or whatever you will start getting those calls and it would not put me off personally, just a sales call.

On talking provider down on price. Lots of people do it but it has always seemed like a bad move to me. A hot girl is going to agree to let you be with her without ever setting eyes on you, what's that worth to you? The price she sets is what she values herself at or what she needs to get by. If you save 20 or 40 dollars is it really worth it? She now sees you as cheap, you have told her essentially she isn't worth what she thinks she is. How good a time do you think she will be after that? Did you save 20 dollars or waste the hundred you gave her for the visit? Some providers really aren't worth what they ask, I just don't contact them.

Not criticizing you for looking for a deal. Lots of people do. Just my opinion.[/QUOTE]Appreciate it. The problem is that she continues to daily contact me for about a week now. Also, I wasn't trying to talk her down. She quoted a price that I did not have on me at the time. I was not trying to talk her down. I think it is their body and we should honor their prices. She just suddenly dropped her price and has stuck with it. That seems to come off as desperate to me. Desperation makes me nervous in light of some of the reports of track marks. Personally I do everything covered for safety, and I am not so naive to think there is no risk involved. Needle come with a higher probability of disease though. All of those things combined have my spider sense going off. Just wondering what others might think before I pull the trigger or holster my gun.

[QUOTE=PleasureSeeker;2773129]I generally don't tip since you really never know what you're going to get beyond their own price they've given for the service. Sure, it may work and you get a GFE experience of a lifetime, but more often than not, they're attitude is set before you even walked in the door, and they're going to be a good provider or they're not. Someone recently mentioned that curvy blonde MILF who consistently tries to up-sell after you've agreed to a price and paid the donation. Imagine what she'd do if you'd already tipped her a bit more in hopes of good service? In that scenario, you still won't get what you want and the up-selling won't stop. My advice is to generally avoid tipping for yourself, and for the rest of us. Make a deal, stick with it, and dive in.

But each to their own. Just my take on it.[/QUOTE]Most girls set there rates at at an odd number so when you withdraw money at an even number they get the extra 10.

Never bother to get change so I leave it. Not once have they stayed longer or offered thanks.

[QUOTE=PleasureSeeker;2773129]I generally don't tip since you really never know what you're going to get beyond their own price they've given for the service. Sure, it may work and you get a GFE experience of a lifetime, but more often than not, they're attitude is set before you even walked in the door, and they're going to be a good provider or they're not. Someone recently mentioned that curvy blonde MILF who consistently tries to up-sell after you've agreed to a price and paid the donation. Imagine what she'd do if you'd already tipped her a bit more in hopes of good service? In that scenario, you still won't get what you want and the up-selling won't stop. My advice is to generally avoid tipping for yourself, and for the rest of us. Make a deal, stick with it, and dive in.

But each to their own. Just my take on it.[/QUOTE]I'll chime in and give my two cents as most know my post are about Asian pussy on the massage board. At the beginning of every year I get 5 or 6 $50 Visa cards and distribute them to a very few select girls at a selective time. Why Visa? Why not just cash, because my cash gets stuffed with everybody's cash and my tip is forgotten before I can get a mile down the road, But when she see's the Visa card and spends it she remembers who that tip came from. Since I usually deal with Asians I pass these out around Christmas but especially Feb. 8 . This is the Chinese New Year, this is a huge Holliday for them. Like I said it is with someone that I've known and not just here for a few months. I always wait to give it to her right before I walk out the door, so this is the last memory she has of me. Of course I give her the regular tip but the card is one hell of an investment for future visits, Will this work with American BP girls? Maybe but like I said you need to be very selective the Chinese take a sign of respect and compliment serious it's all in the timing and delivery. Oops giving away my secrets.

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[QUOTE=XHippie;2773349] At the beginning of every year I get 5 or 6 $50 Visa cards and distribute them to a very few select girls at a selective time. Why Visa? Why not just cash, because my cash gets stuffed with everybody's cash and my tip is forgotten before I can get a mile down the road, But when she see's the Visa card and spends it she remembers who that tip came from.[/QUOTE]In my experience, when a tip is given it is NEVER forgotten. Especially if it's larger than normal.

[QUOTE=Ronnor;2773501]In my experience, when a tip is given it is NEVER forgotten. Especially if it's larger than normal.[/QUOTE]Agree, when the excellent service deserves a special tip and both remember the experience and the cash is only part of the equation, this is the sweet spot of this game.

Guys have been out of the hobby for a little while and forgot my logon I'd and password so I had to create a new one. Anyway I contacted Amber and she is back in.

Business. It is good to see she is back, she is one of few reliable ladies out there. I will keep you posted on how it goes.

[QUOTE=Rectumrocket;2773269]Appreciate it. The problem is that she continues to daily contact me for about a week now. Also, I wasn't trying to talk her down. She quoted a price that I did not have on me at the time. I was not trying to talk her down. I think it is their body and we should honor their prices. She just suddenly dropped her price and has stuck with it. That seems to come off as desperate to me. Desperation makes me nervous in light of some of the reports of track marks. Personally I do everything covered for safety, and I am not so naive to think there is no risk involved. Needle come with a higher probability of disease though. All of those things combined have my spider sense going off. Just wondering what others might think before I pull the trigger or holster my gun.[/QUOTE]I said I wasn't trying to criticize you but let me elaborate. Your post actually just touched on a point that I had been thinking about for a while now. From the number of responses it seems like a good topic for discussion. Just let me say the negotiating thing wasn't directed at you personally but it seemed a good time to breech the subject.

I have had a couple providers over text me trying to get me to make an appointment. Usually AFTER the first appointment so who could blame them, hehe. I don't think she is desperate but merely following a lead, sales 101. Always go with your gut! But, you obviously like her looks and she wants you to come see her. If the tracks are a deal breaker ignore her and she will drop you. That's a personal call. It wouldn't stop me but I would be 100% safe. Please post if you do see her.

Good luck!

Any info on these two? I'm in the mood for a double whopper tonight LOL.

Anna.

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Gabriela.

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[QUOTE=XHippie;2773349]I'll chime in and give my two cents as most know my post are about Asian pussy on the massage board. At the beginning of every year I get 5 or 6 $50 Visa cards and distribute them to a very few select girls at a selective time. Why Visa? Why not just cash, because my cash gets stuffed with everybody's cash and my tip is forgotten before I can get a mile down the road, But when she see's the Visa card and spends it she remembers who that tip came from. Since I usually deal with Asians I pass these out around Christmas but especially Feb. 8 . This is the Chinese New Year, this is a huge Holliday for them. Like I said it is with someone that I've known and not just here for a few months. I always wait to give it to her right before I walk out the door, so this is the last memory she has of me. Of course I give her the regular tip but the card is one hell of an investment for future visits, Will this work with American BP girls? Maybe but like I said you need to be very selective the Chinese take a sign of respect and compliment serious it's all in the timing and delivery. Oops giving away my secrets.[/QUOTE]What is this, a fucking Chinese restaurant? The advertised price is the price the get, unless I negotiate a discount, which I often do. My goal is to see a new chick every time, if I like her, I'll see her 2-3 times more, and that's it. I can get "regular sex" and "tried and true" at home. This is about variety.


Do you think my clients tip me? No, they try to jew the price down every fucking time. Tipping. You are just inflating these girls' egos and making average pussy think it is a pornstar, which leads to newbie "good catches" becoming attitude-laden "YMMV, wasn't the same as last time" situations that EVERYONE HERE complains about.

PS edit: If you really feel the need to donate gift cards as "tips," you should donate them to the Salvation Army and get a tax writeoff.

PS edit #2: I am always respectful, always smell good, always do my part to not be selfish but to also not drag the encounter out needlessly, and I'm attractive, so maybe I can get away with more than the average Dick, but I mean...........come on. This is SEX. The goal is a hot hole that comes with as little drama and danger as possible. If you're trying to wife one of these girls, if you're trying to find a mattress therapist to confide your troubles in, you should be spending your "tip" money on QUALITY PURSUITS or professional matchmakers, not Backpage hookers

[QUOTE=Amateur11;2773850]What is this, a fucking Chinese restaurant? The advertised price is the price the get, unless I negotiate a discount, which I often do. My goal is to see a new chick every time, if I like her, I'll see her 2-3 times more, and that's it. I can get "regular sex" and "tried and true" at home. This is about variety.


Do you think my clients tip me? No, they try to jew the price down every fucking time. Tipping. You are just inflating these girls' egos and making average pussy think it is a pornstar, which leads to newbie "good catches" becoming attitude-laden "YMMV, wasn't the same as last time" situations that EVERYONE HERE complains about.

PS edit: If you really feel the need to donate gift cards as "tips," you should donate them to the Salvation Army and get a tax writeoff.

PS edit #2: I am always respectful, always smell good, always do my part to not be selfish but to also not drag the encounter out needlessly, and I'm attractive, so maybe I can get away with more than the average Dick, but I mean...........come on. This is SEX. The goal is a hot hole that comes with as little drama and danger as possible. If you're trying to wife one of these girls, if you're trying to find a mattress therapist to confide your troubles in, you should be spending your "tip" money on QUALITY PURSUITS or professional matchmakers, not Backpage hookers[/QUOTE]Go to your happy place.

Sing a song? Know (I feel pretty)?

Moooosefaahvaaah Mooooosefaahvaaah.

[QUOTE=Amateur11;2773850]What is this, a fucking Chinese restaurant? The advertised price is the price the get, unless I negotiate a discount, which I often do. My goal is to see a new chick every time, if I like her, I'll see her 2-3 times more, and that's it. I can get "regular sex" and "tried and true" at home. This is about variety.


Do you think my clients tip me? No, they try to jew the price down every fucking time. Tipping. You are just inflating these girls' egos and making average pussy think it is a pornstar, which leads to newbie "good catches" becoming attitude-laden "YMMV, wasn't the same as last time" situations that EVERYONE HERE complains about.

PS edit: If you really feel the need to donate gift cards as "tips," you should donate them to the Salvation Army and get a tax writeoff.

PS edit #2: I am always respectful, always smell good, always do my part to not be selfish but to also not drag the encounter out needlessly, and I'm attractive, so maybe I can get away with more than the average Dick, but I mean...........come on. This is SEX. The goal is a hot hole that comes with as little drama and danger as possible. If you're trying to wife one of these girls, if you're trying to find a mattress therapist to confide your troubles in, you should be spending your "tip" money on QUALITY PURSUITS or professional matchmakers, not Backpage hookers[/QUOTE]Some good points in here but to each is own. To everyone on this board, do whatever you want when it comes to tipping and spending. Your life and your money. If you're having fun and feeling like you're "winning" then keep up what you're doing. If you have to think too much about how you're spending and trying to figure a way to convince the expensive girl to be a cheap girl, then you probably should stop the hobby. I really try to keep this fun for myself and the babe I've chosen. I like to get off and she likes money and we both don't like commitments. Thats a score.

[QUOTE=Brucea06;2765915]Do not expect any extras!! Massage only. Many reviews on here, if you expect more you will be disapointed.[/QUOTE]Draped or undraped (knowing it's just straight legit)? Thanks.

[QUOTE=Crtchadialhntr;2773880]Go to your happy place.

Sing a song? Know (I feel pretty)?

Moooosefaahvaaah Mooooosefaahvaaah.[/QUOTE]I'm just trying to help you young lads get your heads out of your asses and teach you reality.

I have tipped couple times when I was a rookie John; Once I learned thanks to this forum and my wonderful friends here and became a veteran John, I only bring what is needed in an envelope, I bring more cash only when I know the provider well and may want to extend my session but only as much as needed to extend the session.

Tipping is good for their business, sometime it's good for us. Although I feel they are more likely to get benefited by tipping then Johns. This will only drive the price up, most recent example. Noa - went up from $200 to $280 in matter of weeks, now I heard she may be worth that money but you John's made that one expensive not her. She wanted just $200 when she started, but now she is out of reach of many johns out there.

Just my 2 cents, flame me if you like but wanted to make sure I give my perspective.

[QUOTE=Rectumrocket;2773269]Appreciate it. The problem is that she continues to daily contact me for about a week now. Also, I wasn't trying to talk her down. She quoted a price that I did not have on me at the time. I was not trying to talk her down. I think it is their body and we should honor their prices. She just suddenly dropped her price and has stuck with it. That seems to come off as desperate to me. Desperation makes me nervous in light of some of the reports of track marks. Personally I do everything covered for safety, and I am not so naive to think there is no risk involved. Needle come with a higher probability of disease though. All of those things combined have my spider sense going off. Just wondering what others might think before I pull the trigger or holster my gun.[/QUOTE]Why don't you try her out and let everyone know how it go?

If you are that much worried then just block her, problem solved.

It's a simply your choice, you contacted her and now you don't want to go to her due to whatever negatives that you've seen since you made the first contact with her.

[QUOTE=Amateur11;2773911]I'm just trying to help you young lads get your heads out of your asses and teach you reality.[/QUOTE]Calm down!! No need to fight over Whos the best looking or such things, Nor the coochie there is plenty for everybody!! At the end of the Road Good looking or ugly and super Fugly all get charged and pay for the fun! No money no honey simple as that LOL Lets keep it Tight and Real, Bros before Hoes!

[QUOTE=XxJohnJohnXx;2773949]Calm down!! No need to fight over Whos the best looking or such things, Nor the coochie there is plenty for everybody!! At the end of the Road Good looking or ugly and super Fugly all get charged and pay for the fun! No money no honey simple as that LOL Lets keep it Tight and Real, Bros before Hoes![/QUOTE]Bros before Hoes! Exactly I mean.

[QUOTE=Crtchadialhntr;2773880]Go to your happy place.

Sing a song? Know (I feel pretty)?

Moooosefaahvaaah Mooooosefaahvaaah.[/QUOTE]I totally agree with you on that point. Its kinda like outa sight out of mind. I can't remember the last person that told me how good I am at my job. And I hear it a lot, but my reply is, "it my job!" I receive compensation for doing my job. I don't expect to be tipped for it, and therefor I consistently do it properly, and that way I continue to be compensated for it.

[QUOTE=Amateur11;2773850]What is this, a fucking Chinese restaurant? The advertised price is the price the get, unless I negotiate a discount, which I often do. My goal is to see a new chick every time, if I like her, I'll see her 2-3 times more, and that's it. I can get "regular sex" and "tried and true" at home. This is about variety.


Do you think my clients tip me? No, they try to jew the price down every fucking time. Tipping. You are just inflating these girls' egos and making average pussy think it is a pornstar, which leads to newbie "good catches" becoming attitude-laden "YMMV, wasn't the same as last time" situations that EVERYONE HERE complains about.

PS edit: If you really feel the need to donate gift cards as "tips," you should donate them to the Salvation Army and get a tax writeoff.

PS edit #2: I am always respectful, always smell good, always do my part to not be selfish but to also not drag the encounter out needlessly, and I'm attractive, so maybe I can get away with more than the average Dick, but I mean...........come on. This is SEX. The goal is a hot hole that comes with as little drama and danger as possible. If you're trying to wife one of these girls, if you're trying to find a mattress therapist to confide your troubles in, you should be spending your "tip" money on QUALITY PURSUITS or professional matchmakers, not Backpage hookers[/QUOTE]I totally agree with you on that point. Its kinda like outa sight out of mind. I can't remember the last person that told me how good I am at my job. And I hear it a lot, but my reply is, "it my job!" I receive compensation for doing my job. I don't expect to be tipped for it, and therefor I consistently do it properly, and that way I continue to be compensated for it.

[QUOTE=Jan2050;2773938]I have tipped couple times when I was a rookie John; Once I learned thanks to this forum and my wonderful friends here and became a veteran John, I only bring what is needed in an envelope, I bring more cash only when I know the provider well and may want to extend my session but only as much as needed to extend the session.

Tipping is good for their business, sometime it's good for us. Although I feel they are more likely to get benefited by tipping then Johns. This will only drive the price up, most recent example. Noa - went up from $200 to $280 in matter of weeks, now I heard she may be worth that money but you John's made that one expensive not her. She wanted just $200 when she started, but now she is out of reach of many johns out there.

Just my 2 cents, flame me if you like but wanted to make sure I give my perspective.[/QUOTE]Just like every other business, basic economics applies to providers too. Income is optimized by setting the price correctly. Price too low means lower total income for a given number of sessions which are possible. Price too high drives away a lot of business and total income is lower. Price just right produces maximum income for the provider. Noa consistently provides a superb experience and word quickly spread. Demand exceeded supply. So the reasonable response is to raise the price, which any competent businessperson would do. I'd like to drink fine French champagne every night but not possible. But if I save up I can have it on a very special occasion. Like you said, just my two cents.

[QUOTE=Amateur11;2773850]What is this, a fucking Chinese restaurant? The advertised price is the price the get, unless I negotiate a discount, which I often do. My goal is to see a new chick every time, if I like her, I'll see her 2-3 times more, and that's it. I can get "regular sex" and "tried and true" at home. This is about variety.


Do you think my clients tip me? No, they try to jew the price down every fucking time. Tipping. You are just inflating these girls' egos and making average pussy think it is a pornstar, which leads to newbie "good catches" becoming attitude-laden "YMMV, wasn't the same as last time" situations that EVERYONE HERE complains about.

PS edit: If you really feel the need to donate gift cards as "tips," you should donate them to the Salvation Army and get a tax writeoff.

PS edit #2: I am always respectful, always smell good, always do my part to not be selfish but to also not drag the encounter out needlessly, and I'm attractive, so maybe I can get away with more than the average Dick, but I mean...........come on. This is SEX. The goal is a hot hole that comes with as little drama and danger as possible. If you're trying to wife one of these girls, if you're trying to find a mattress therapist to confide your troubles in, you should be spending your "tip" money on QUALITY PURSUITS or professional matchmakers, not Backpage hookers[/QUOTE]No offense taken, Amateur is 100% correct as looking at the "big picture" as a rule I have this same policy. I'm paying for pussy and nothing more the service determines the tip. And when I tip it is within the standard rate. HOWEVER as In my statement only a very select few which I can count one hand do I wheel and deal since I can't wine and dine remember I'm talking Asian pussy. The reality of this is I try to have at least a few tight Asians I can count on when I need to scratch the itch, hey it works for me. Those that have God given looks packing a monster and cash to back it up God bless you. Other than this gift giving it's the normal fee and standard tip to the ladies I see. The BP American girls well it's make the call, meet up, pop the cash down, do the deed out the door. Credit card? Tip? WTF a price is a price! , for what I just paid for a hh in a smoky room with a clock watcher. Like I said I agree with Amateur no need to bust his balls, various inputs is what teaches us, at least me I'm steal learning.

[QUOTE=Amateur11;2773911]I'm just trying to help you young lads get your heads out of your asses and teach you reality.[/QUOTE]This applies to everyone (including myself); if your own head is stuck in your own ass, then you will never see anything beyond your own stinking viewpoint.

We all have things that we consider important to us as individuals. We all have different likes and experiences that effects how we approach and interact with the ladies we enjoy. Some of us enjoy the relationship part and the connection that forms which makes the relationship personal beyond the mere physical relationship you donate for, so tips and gifts to some special ladies is not uncommon.

[QUOTE=XxJohnJohnXx;2755496]Hey has anybody seen this provider? Looks like someone that I always wanted to see (Chrissy) now is goin under a whole different name AMANDA and I'm scared it could be a scam or a bate and switch that stole chrissy's pics!! Please let me know if that's the real legit chrissy yall can PM me Thanks in advanced fellows link is below:

[URL]http://raleigh.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/gorgeous-brunette/25083982[/URL][/QUOTE]I don't think this is Chrissy. Sounds and looks like her, but Chrissy had very badly stretched stomach when I saw her. In fact, after seeing her, seeing an SP's stomach in her photos is one of my requirements before making a choice to see her. Chrissy's tits were also not good, droopy and stretched. Maybe had some work done, but I don't think they can fix stretch marks and oatmeal skin. She is pretty though, with a really nice ass and pussy. But a nice stomach is a thing for me. Maybe photos were taken at just the right angle with a little blur added. If it is NOT Chrissy, would like a review.

[QUOTE=Purple45;2774109]This applies to everyone (including myself); if your own head is stuck in your own ass then you will never see anything past your own stinking viewpoint.

We all have things that we consider important to us as individuals. We all have different likes and experiences that effects how we approach and interact with the ladies we enjoy. Some of us enjoy the relationship part and that connection that forms that makes the relationship personal beyond the mere physical relationship you donate for, so tips and gifts to some special ladies is not uncommon.[/QUOTE]Yep, everybody's got their own game plan, I never have to worry about looking for track marks or pulling out the ol reliable.
Ruger 380 close to my person on an asshole. Damn right I learned the hard stupid way. It ain't rocket science just takes a little homework and foreplay and the foreplay comes in many forms, this is an example of a relationship for some that Purple45 alluded too. I personally would rather have a few girls that I have invested a little extra in and can't wait to fuck my brains out than play the hit or miss game, been there done that, I got tired of the surprises. I'll be honest at this point I can't handle a large variety like you younger bucks, but I enjoy the hell out of reading the post here I'm like damn these guys are brave and knocking down some serious poontang. Like I said everybody's got their own game Keep at it and keep posting. But above all be safe!

[QUOTE=Sobe69;2773849]Any info on these two? I'm in the mood for a double whopper tonight LOL.

Anna.

[URL]http://raleigh.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/anna-first-time-here-guys/26193756[/URL]

Gabriela.

[URL]http://raleigh.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/d3licious-curvy-spanish-goddess-only-visiting-for-short-time/26173977[/URL][/QUOTE]Did you get to see one of these yet? I did some digging and here is what I found. I think the first one is using fake pictures. The Girl in the pictures goes by snowphat and I don't know if she escorts. It would be great if she did!!

[URL]https://www.instagram.com/snowphat/?hl=en[/URL]

Second one seems legit, she seems to have posted on the west coast couple of days ago, same number and pictures.

Dreamed of Ginger, the newest member of the Bobbi and Daisi crew:

[URL]http://raleigh.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/til-7red-head-busty-and-beautiful-ginger-layne-reviewed-292766/25605061[/URL]

Easy arrangements via phone call. 140 for hhr. She's a pretty red-headed MILF. BBBJTC with swallow. CFS, CG, Mish, BBBJ, HJ for round 2 as the party hat wasn't working for me.

The bad: she wasn't very engaging or vocal. Monosyllabic responses to questions.

The good: that one syllable was always, "yes".

I'm a bit torn here. On the one hand, she did everything I wanted. On the other, she seemed a bit distant, maybe shy. Could be because she's relatively new. And pricing for this crew is climbing.

Have fun, but be careful out there.

[QUOTE=JamesDean1982;2773003]Anyone know anythi ng?[/QUOTE]Please, someone tell us that this cutie is legit & all that! If so, may have to make a special trip.

[URL]http://raleigh.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/sexy-5-str-playmate-your-best-girlfrlend-ever-im-all-yours/26185001[/URL]

For those interested, Sara Jay is going to be in Fayetteville on February 2nd and 3rd, and in Raleigh Feb 4th. You can book through Pamela Peaks. I believe the going rate is 1,200 for hr.

[QUOTE=Amateur11;2773911]I'm just trying to help you young lads get your heads out of your asses and teach you reality.[/QUOTE]Thought you sounded a LITTLE angry, guess I was wrong.

Respect your right to an opinion and would love to tell you how you're wrong. The more I think about it you may be right in some ways. Maybe my approach drives up rates and perhaps creates YMMV situations for others who have different approach or negotiate rates. Then again negotiating and thinking of them as "backpage hookers" causes them to have to be higher volume, resent clients, and become clockwatchers. Interesting to think about. You mock wanting wanting anything other than a new hole to dump a load in. While that part is no doubt fun I do enjoy actually getting to providers beyond that. Some more than others of course, but often I seek that type in ads. I think we are fishing different parts of the same pond, and I wish you luck.

BTW. In my work customers never try to talk me down. I would tell them to go elsewhere if they did. I charge less than high rate for what I do and I do it well. People know I am fair with pricing and 1 in 4 do tip me. I always appreciate it but never expect it. It does not make me want to raise prices and those people I DO remember and will go above and beyond for. But maybe that's just me?

[QUOTE=PenaltyKiller;2774579]For those interested, Sara Jay is going to be in Fayetteville on February 2nd and 3rd, and in Raleigh Feb 4th. You can book through Pamela Peaks. I believe the going rate is 1,200 for hr.[/QUOTE]Waiting for Belle Knox, just a matter of time before she shows up on some sites.