Rants, Raves and Opinions AKA "The Octagon"

[QUOTE=SexTalkFor1000;5421497]If you worked for Steve previously you would definitely know how to get in touch with him, he still has the same contact info. I'm a little skeptical and for some reason I don't believe you ever worked for Steve, because if you did, you would know that you can make more money on your own, Steve takes a pretty good cut
I'm also thinking you posted here to discretely advertise[/QUOTE]I did work for Steve for a long time. I was a decent girl of his, I just happened to move and start college and get a go on my life. With that being said, I didn't have his contact information anymore but I now do and am in the process of getting ahold of him.

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Steve had a flurry of younger girls around 2019 that were bouncing in and out of the stable. I can't remember if I heard it from one of the other EE girls or Steve himself, but one of them ripped him off and bounced on him after getting the phone numbers of a handful of clients.

There were 3 or 4, if memory serves me right. I think they all knew each other. The longest tenured one was a brunette with a lot of tattoos. Not like a sleeve or anything, just a lot of random tattoos scattered around. She was pretty hot but service was ho-hum and she wasn't shower fresh for my first visit. Wasn't bad but it wasn't great. In today's market I might repeat, but back then I wasn't interested.

The other was a blonde, also with similar tattoo patterns. She was hot with a great body but the experience was f*cking terrible. Not much of a BBBJ, then missionary with her just staring off into space. Told me she was doing this to get money together for a trip to Florida. Wasn't into it at all. That's fine, but that level of enthusiasm is worth $ an hour, not $$. 5. I think she even had me pull out a few minutes in so she could go pee.

I don't think I said anything to Steve, wasn't really worth complaining about, but I think I gave her a sh*tty review and never repeated. She was gone in a few weeks anyway. I think she popped up as an independent and then disappeared again.

Another one was a BSW. She was pushing BBW status from the pics I saw but she was still worth a try. I had intended to get to her but she was gone before our schedules aligned.

I'm not sure, between the blonde and the brunette, who is who. I thought the blonde was Kay, but someone else said the brunette was. I remember getting their names confused a few years ago, also. Either way, none of them were really worth repeating. It was this flurry of younger chicks that kinda made me realize I don't enjoy providers under 30. The tighter body and kitty is meaningless to me if the provider isn't at least pretending to be into it. There have been some exceptions to that for me, Natalee comes to mind, but other than that I've pretty much only seen older providers since. If memory serves these girls came around right after Natalee disappeared, actually.

All I can confirm is that there was a Kay two years ago, and she was one of these three that came around briefly. Not sure if it's this lady or not. People change, maybe the experience is better these days. I don't know, but if she's one of the three from a few years back I can't justify the standard EE rates to visit them. Especially if it's the blonde. It was literally one of my worst experiences in the hobby spanning a decade. I'd say top 10 worst. The rest of the top 10 is filled with junkies at a quarter of her price.

I have reviews out there on both of the ones I saw, if you want to look for them. As much as I hate putting a provider on blast, this warrants it. Do your research and proceed with caution.

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[QUOTE=RogerOver;5421915]Dude, I believe I just saw a wedding announcement a couple of days ago. LOL.[/QUOTE]You mean the one between farmer Fred and the "Goddess of Pleasure" with her crackpipe ways over in the escorts section? LOL Not trying to be uppity, but I divide us males into two sub-species. Man and Man-gina. The latter are the ones that catch feelings for these girls. So when I use the royal 'we,' they are not being referenced by definition!

[QUOTE=PearishBA;5422602]You mean the one between farmer Fred and the "Goddess of Pleasure" with her crackpipe ways over in the escorts section? LOL Not trying to be uppity, but I divide us males into two sub-species. Man and Man-gina. The latter are the ones that catch feelings for these girls. So when I use the royal 'we,' they are not being referenced by definition![/QUOTE]Really? I'm a "man-gina" because I have totally ordinary human emotions when it comes to sharing intimacy with another? That not only sounds stupid, it sounds inhuman.

[QUOTE=PearishBA;5421663]I've been lurking here for years, through the old classifieds site etc.[/QUOTE]LOL I knew it. You had waaaaaaaay too much info and composure to be brand new.

[QUOTE=IlvblckGrls;5422779]Really? I'm a "man-gina" because I have totally ordinary human emotions when it comes to sharing intimacy with another? That not only sounds stupid, it sounds inhuman.[/QUOTE]The world needs man-ginas too. But you don't fall in love with every hooker you stick your pecker in, do you? I think he was referring to captain save-a-hoes, not some guy that likes his ATF a lot. But, of course, I could be wrong since I'm not the OP.

I still think that marrying a meth/crack-addict is a bad thing; I don't care if she's cleaned up her act or not. But, unfortunately, the chances are so high it will fall apart that it couldn't get odds in Vegas. I'm also betting there ain't a prenup.

[QUOTE=IlvblckGrls;5422779]Really? I'm a "man-gina" because I have totally ordinary human emotions when it comes to sharing intimacy with another? That not only sounds stupid, it sounds inhuman.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=RogerOver;5423175]The world needs man-ginas too. But you don't fall in love with every hooker you stick your pecker in, do you? I think he was referring to captain save-a-hoes, not some guy that likes his ATF a lot. But, of course, I could be wrong since I'm not the OP.

I still think that marrying a meth/crack-addict is a bad thing; I don't care if she's cleaned up her act or not. But, unfortunately, the chances are so high it will fall apart that it couldn't get odds in Vegas. I'm also betting there ain't a prenup.[/QUOTE]Its one thing to have a vibe and fondness for them beyond the fucking. I'm talking about the feelings that get you tangled up in their lives. Where the next thing you know you're on the forum here defending her honor while the excon exboyfriend is emptying your house and she's shoving a banana up your tailpipe!

[QUOTE=Bill513OH;5413344]I had a SW in Hamilton kinda do this to me. Went to drop her off and she wanted $20 more bux for whatever reason. I said no and she said I'm not getting out until you do. I grabbed her phone and chucked it out the pass window. She turned of course as it went flying by her face before she could day anything, I opened the door and shoved her out and hit the gas. Dropped her bag out the driver window on way.[/QUOTE]Got your message today but can't message you back till you clean out some space.

Message me again and give me a number to text you at!!

What's the big deal? Its just a preference. All providers do it or have done it at one time or another. The holy than thou say if you bareback them I won't see them. That's fine then go jack off and quit posting. Or play it safe stay with your wife or girlfriend. The one thing that I won't do ever is barebacking anal. That's some nasty shit! I won't even do it with a condom. For all you out there I no longer visit Hamilton. There's too much HIV there. UPH is about the same way. I went and got checked like every one should all tests came back negative. So now I use condoms and no anal. You anal freaks need to rethink That's the worst thing you can do for STDS. Herpies is one it doesn't matter what you wear so get off your soapbox and be safe.

[QUOTE=Lenny6746;5442101]What's the big deal? Its just a preference. All providers do it or have done it at one time or another. The holy than thou say if you bareback them I won't see them. That's fine then go jack off and quit posting. Or play it safe stay with your wife or girlfriend. The one thing that I won't do ever is barebacking anal. That's some nasty shit! I won't even do it with a condom. For all you out there I no longer visit Hamilton. There's too much HIV there. UPH is about the same way. I went and got checked like every one should all tests came back negative. So now I use condoms and no anal. You anal freaks need to rethink That's the worst thing you can do for STDS. Herpies is one it doesn't matter what you wear so get off your soapbox and be safe.[/QUOTE]HPV is another one, doesn't matter if you were protection. All the DATY can get you oral cancer from HPV. Know your risk and stay safe.

[QUOTE=Lenny6746;5442101]What's the big deal? Its just a preference. All providers do it or have done it at one time or another. The holy than thou say if you bareback them I won't see them. That's fine then go jack off and quit posting. Or play it safe stay with your wife or girlfriend. The one thing that I won't do ever is barebacking anal. That's some nasty shit! I won't even do it with a condom. For all you out there I no longer visit Hamilton. There's too much HIV there. UPH is about the same way. I went and got checked like every one should all tests came back negative. So now I use condoms and no anal. You anal freaks need to rethink That's the worst thing you can do for STDS. Herpies is one it doesn't matter what you wear so get off your soapbox and be safe.[/QUOTE]I think Lenny is playing a little 4-d chess here. He knows anal is another preference and secretly wants all that Hamilton asscrack to himself! LOL.

Perish I've known a lot of ignorant mongers on here they are okay that's not a bad thing. Because they learn. But you your just plain fucking stupid.

[QUOTE=Lenny6746;5442791]Perish I've known a lot of ignorant mongers on here they are okay that's not a bad thing. Because they learn. But you your just plain fucking stupid.[/QUOTE]Did I misunderstand your previous post and it was actually an education in anal sex? You recently attacked me for being anti-pet. The wounds are still pretty fresh. So I'm wondering if this animosity isn't actually stemming from that. Just because my next breakfast could also have been your best friend doesn't mean we can't still be friends. Does it?

[QUOTE=Lenny6746;5442101]What's the big deal? Its just a preference. All providers do it or have done it at one time or another. The holy than thou say if you bareback them I won't see them. That's fine then go jack off and quit posting. Or play it safe stay with your wife or girlfriend. The one thing that I won't do ever is barebacking anal. That's some nasty shit! I won't even do it with a condom. For all you out there I no longer visit Hamilton. There's too much HIV there. UPH is about the same way. I went and got checked like every one should all tests came back negative. So now I use condoms and no anal. You anal freaks need to rethink That's the worst thing you can do for STDS. Herpies is one it doesn't matter what you wear so get off your soapbox and be safe.[/QUOTE]I give you a public service announcement from Lenny the Retard. LOL. Thanks Lenny, I know I always take my posting and fucking advice from you.

[QUOTE=RogerOver;5443009]I give you a public service announcement from Lenny the Retard. LOL. Thanks Lenny, I know I always take my posting and fucking advice from you.[/QUOTE]In the spirit of continued public announcement, I agree the intravenous drug and anal sex avenues are the bane of our hetero-sexual-monetary-transactional hobby. Particularly those hoes that think they may convert their gay friends by letting them fuck them. And who unfortunately don't convert them, because they nut by closing their eyes and thinking about their boyfriends. Ultimately potentially infecting us more likely with the worst of what nobody wants. Roger and over. LOL.

Gay friends do you really think that's how its transmitted your more stupid than I thought. Its sharing needles or points as they call them. Open sores also and anal sex. And of course fucking a infected provider. Read up on it oops you can't read. You just shoot your mouth off.

[QUOTE=Lenny6746;5443976]Gay friends do you really think that's how its transmitted your more stupid than I thought. Its sharing needles or points as they call them. Open sores also and anal sex. And of course fucking a infected provider. Read up on it oops you can't read. You just shoot your mouth off.[/QUOTE]Sorry Lenny, I didn't mean to primarily blame your friends thinking about you when trying to plow their BFFs. Although you could help reduce that by not prancing around so much in those assless chaps! But even if you don't, I agree they're a small percentage of a small percentage. It was a poor choice of words on my part. I should have typed 'Like' instead of 'Particularly. ' Still, your Anal Crusade is showing itself more and more to actually be a big head fake. If you want all that stinkhole to yourself just come out and say it! I have no problem sticking with vaginas. Especially if I know you might be lurking down one of those dark brown holes!

I use an encrypted VPN, and for the most part everything is fine. But Skip the Games, for example, blocks me for "security reasons. " It's reasonable to assume the majority of hack attempts come through VPNs, but to block everyone in that category is over kill. I work in IT security, and I know there are other precautions they can take. Anyone else have this issue or know of a specific VPN that doesn't get blocked?

Aren't chaps, by definition, assless?

[QUOTE=PearishBA;5445769]Sorry Lenny, I didn't mean to primarily blame your friends thinking about you when trying to plow their BFFs. Although you could help reduce that by not prancing around so much in those assless chaps! But even if you don't, I agree they're a small percentage of a small percentage. It was a poor choice of words on my part. I should have typed 'Like' instead of 'Particularly. ' Still, your Anal Crusade is showing itself more and more to actually be a big head fake. If you want all that stinkhole to yourself just come out and say it! I have no problem sticking with vaginas. Especially if I know you might be lurking down one of those dark brown holes![/QUOTE]

Only perish would know when he visits the Dude Ranch LOL.

[QUOTE=VinnieKramer;5446346]Aren't chaps, by definition, assless?[/QUOTE]Yes. If chaps had asses, they would be pants.

[QUOTE=VinnieKramer;5446346]Aren't chaps, by definition, assless?[/QUOTE]Got to keep up with the times [URL]https://www.dictionary.com/e/fashion/assless-chaps/[/URL] and where the L in LGBTQ also stands for Lenny:

While chaps were originally worn around the waist to protect the legs of horseback riders, assless chaps are associated with the LGBTQ community as a kinky or provocative article of clothing, which leave the butt and sometimes crotch exposed.

[QUOTE=Filmbyter;5446315]I use an encrypted VPN, and for the most part everything is fine. But Skip the Games, for example, blocks me for "security reasons. " It's reasonable to assume the majority of hack attempts come through VPNs, but to block everyone in that category is over kill. I work in IT security, and I know there are other precautions they can take. Anyone else have this issue or know of a specific VPN that doesn't get blocked?[/QUOTE]All the popular, and some lesser known VPNs appear to be on the STG block list. I've just set up my own VPN on a cloud server and gotten through. A five-dollar per month Digital Ocean droplet can do it. I don't care enough about girls on STG to maintain a VPN server just to go there though. But probably any decent HTTPS, SOCKS5, or Shadowsocks proxy, etc could get through. If you're in IT security you shouldn't have any issues sorting that out.

[QUOTE=RogerOver;5446548]All the popular, and some lesser known VPNs appear to be on the STG block list. I've just set up my own VPN on a cloud server and gotten through. A five-dollar per month Digital Ocean droplet can do it. I don't care enough about girls on STG to maintain a VPN server just to go there though. But probably any decent HTTPS, SOCKS5, or Shadowsocks proxy, etc could get through. If you're in IT security you shouldn't have any issues sorting that out.[/QUOTE]VPN for what? Not illegal to visit the site. Use a Chromebook on guest mode and that should suffice. Deletes all your shit when you turn the comp off and is automatically in incognito. I don't log into my account on here or anywhere but one of my old beat up computers that barely works anymore and I will destroy when it stops working. Even with a VPN the pigs can still find shit if they are looking for it. For guys like us they arent looking into it that seriously and can't get time machines to figure out the details of our encounters with women that happened in the past. Imagine how that would look in court. "your honor, we arrested this man for talking about an encounter with an woman last fall and browsing escort websites. " They would laugh that out of the court room. They want the quick easy arrests when they post up and have them come to their hotel rooms. Sure, if you walk into their sting, they are going to take your phone and put it in a plastic bag like your some hardcore criminal for meeting an adult woman. Just don't log into this site on your phone and if you do or have, delete your history on there.

[QUOTE=Chunks92;5446594]VPN for what? Not illegal to visit the site. Use a Chromebook on guest mode and that should suffice. Deletes all your shit when you turn the comp off and is automatically in incognito. I don't log into my account on here or anywhere but one of my old beat up computers that barely works anymore and I will destroy when it stops working. Even with a VPN the pigs can still find shit if they are looking for it. For guys like us they arent looking into it that seriously and can't get time machines to figure out the details of our encounters with women that happened in the past. Imagine how that would look in court. "your honor, we arrested this man for talking about an encounter with an woman last fall and browsing escort websites. " They would laugh that out of the court room. They want the quick easy arrests when they post up and have them come to their hotel rooms. Sure, if you walk into their sting, they are going to take your phone and put it in a plastic bag like your some hardcore criminal for meeting an adult woman. Just don't log into this site on your phone and if you do or have, delete your history on there.[/QUOTE]VPN isn't for hiding the local cache information. What you're describing with using a Chrome book, browser guest mode, destroying hard drives, etc. , none of that is why people use VPNs.

VPNs address a completely different security challenge.

[QUOTE=Chunks92;5446594]VPN for what? Not illegal to visit the site. Use a Chromebook on guest mode and that should suffice. Deletes all your shit when you turn the comp off and is automatically in incognito. I don't log into my account on here or anywhere but one of my old beat up computers that barely works anymore and I will destroy when it stops working. Even with a VPN the pigs can still find shit if they are looking for it. For guys like us they arent looking into it that seriously and can't get time machines to figure out the details of our encounters with women that happened in the past. Imagine how that would look in court. "your honor, we arrested this man for talking about an encounter with an woman last fall and browsing escort websites. " They would laugh that out of the court room. They want the quick easy arrests when they post up and have them come to their hotel rooms. Sure, if you walk into their sting, they are going to take your phone and put it in a plastic bag like your some hardcore criminal for meeting an adult woman. Just don't log into this site on your phone and if you do or have, delete your history on there.[/QUOTE]I was answering a question, not endorsing whether you should use a VPN or not. You do whatever the fuck you want. In fact, I don't think you should use a VPN, a password for your computer or anything else that smacks of being careful. Share your browser with your wife. Give us all your passwords and links to your email. You're so smart! We could learn a lot from you, Perry Mason.

[QUOTE=DNut;5446990]VPN isn't for hiding the local cache information. What you're describing with using a Chrome book, browser guest mode, destroying hard drives, etc. , none of that is why people use VPNs.

VPNs address a completely different security challenge.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=RogerOver;5447400]I was answering a question, not endorsing whether you should use a VPN or not. You do whatever the fuck you want. In fact, I don't think you should use a VPN, a password for your computer or anything else that smacks of being careful. Share your browser with your wife. Give us all your passwords and links to your email. You're so smart! We could learn a lot from you, Perry Mason.[/QUOTE]Understood and my apologies. I didn't understand the context of why you were discussing the VPN. I should have worded it differently. luckily for me I dont have a wife.

You conveniently left out the first part of the explanation.

[QUOTE=PearishBA;5446481]Got to keep up with the times [URL]https://www.dictionary.com/e/fashion/assless-chaps/[/URL] and where the L in LGBTQ also stands for Lenny:

While chaps were originally worn around the waist to protect the legs of horseback riders, assless chaps are associated with the LGBTQ community as a kinky or provocative article of clothing, which leave the butt and sometimes crotch exposed.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Chunks92;5447414]Understood and my apologies. I didn't understand the context of why you were discussing the VPN. I should have worded it differently. luckily for me I dont have a wife.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=VinnieKramer;5447417]You conveniently left out the first part of the explanation.[/QUOTE]I selected the part that pertained to my usage. Like Chunks92 said about not understanding the context of why they were discussing VPN. Both of these conversations come down to the dangers of exposure. And I don't see how any security minded adult doesn't see Lenny as the bigger problem. LOL.

[QUOTE=PearishBA;5447570]I selected the part that pertained to my usage. Like Chunks92 said about not understanding the context of why they were discussing VPN. Both of these conversations come down to the dangers of exposure. And I don't see how any security minded adult doesn't see Lenny as the bigger problem. LOL.[/QUOTE]Lenny is always a problem!

Sweeping up street scum and not using protection.

[QUOTE=BengalMan;5447873]Lenny is always a problem!

Sweeping up street scum and not using protection.[/QUOTE]I don't care if Lenny likes to bang street addicts bare and winds up in the gutter trying to velcro his rotting little pecker back on.

I just think it's hilarious when he drops in here to "school" us. Like his methods and thoughts are worthy of emulation.

"When the end of the world comes, I want to be in Cincinnati because it's always twenty years behind the times." - Mark Twain.

So does that mean in 2041 Cincinnati will be like Brooklyn is today?

[URL]https://nypost.com/2021/07/15/prostitution-runs-rampant-in-brooklyn-amid-declining-enforcement/[/URL]

[QUOTE=WanderingAbout;5448466]"When the end of the world comes, I want to be in Cincinnati because it's always twenty years behind the times." - Mark Twain.

So does that mean in 2041 Cincinnati will be like Brooklyn is today?

[URL]https://nypost.com/2021/07/15/prostitution-runs-rampant-in-brooklyn-amid-declining-enforcement/[/URL][/QUOTE]Why do their SW's look better than our UTR's. LMAO.

[QUOTE=JustACustomer;5448635]Why do their SW's look better than our UTR's. LMAO.[/QUOTE]Ok we have to do a road trip to new york. Dam these women walking around in lingerie looking hot as f*ck. Like you said looks better than are UTR's. I need to go once for sure maybe. I cannot believe the cops look the other way. Why can't they do that here. LOL. Maybe legalize it all over like Nevada make them get checked weekly or something like that. I would for sure do some cruising once a week or so. Well take care everyone be safe out there.

[QUOTE=WanderingAbout;5448466]"When the end of the world comes, I want to be in Cincinnati because it's always twenty years behind the times." - Mark Twain.

So does that mean in 2041 Cincinnati will be like Brooklyn is today?

[URL]https://nypost.com/2021/07/15/prostitution-runs-rampant-in-brooklyn-amid-declining-enforcement/[/URL][/QUOTE]Only if it has a big boost in population in the meantime. Cincy is about 300,000 population and NYC is about 25 times bigger at 8. 2 mil. That's the key, an overwhelming number of targets and alot more people committing bigger crimes so that the coppers can't focus as much on bullshit like selling pussy.

It would be an interesting experiment to relocate some of our more thirsty guys into a NYC / LA environment where these hotter girls parade up and down the streets for hours. I predict it would probably break most of their wallets and their lives before too long. Be careful what you wish for Mark Twain. LOL.

[QUOTE=HighLifeMan;5448829]Ok we have to do a road trip to new york. Dam these women walking around in lingerie looking hot as f*ck. Like you said looks better than are UTR's. I need to go once for sure maybe. I cannot believe the cops look the other way. Why can't they do that here. LOL. Maybe legalize it all over like Nevada make them get checked weekly or something like that. I would for sure do some cruising once a week or so. Well take care everyone be safe out there.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=PearishBA;5449332]Only if it has a big boost in population in the meantime. Cincy is about 300,000 population and NYC is about 25 times bigger at 8. 2 mil. That's the key, an overwhelming number of targets and alot more people committing bigger crimes so that the coppers can't focus as much on bullshit like selling pussy.

It would be an interesting experiment to relocate some of our more thirsty guys into a NYC / LA environment where these hotter girls parade up and down the streets for hours. I predict it would probably break most of their wallets and their lives before too long. Be careful what you wish for Mark Twain. LOL.[/QUOTE]I spent a shitload of time in NYC from 2018 until the pandemic hit. I got so fucking sick of that place. If I were younger maybe I'd be willing to put up with it, but at this point in my life I don't like living stacked on top of each other, even if it's in a luxury hotel.

[QUOTE=PearishBA;5449332]Only if it has a big boost in population in the meantime. Cincy is about 300,000 population and NYC is about 25 times bigger at 8. 2 mil. That's the key, an overwhelming number of targets and alot more people committing bigger crimes so that the coppers can't focus as much on bullshit like selling pussy.

It would be an interesting experiment to relocate some of our more thirsty guys into a NYC / LA environment where these hotter girls parade up and down the streets for hours. I predict it would probably break most of their wallets and their lives before too long. Be careful what you wish for Mark Twain. LOL.[/QUOTE]Population for the OKI ' Region ' for 2040 is just 2 million which is 500 K less than Brooklyn alone today.

[QUOTE=RogerOver;5449390]I spent a shitload of time in NYC from 2018 until the pandemic hit. I got so fucking sick of that place. If I were younger maybe I'd be willing to put up with it, but at this point in my life I don't like living stacked on top of each other, even if it's in a luxury hotel.[/QUOTE]Commuted (more or less) once or twice a month for 20 years to NYC for business. The comment above is spot on. Food is mostly good to great as it has to be with all the competition. But the Oh Wow factor of NYC fades rather fast and all you are left with is people everywhere, 247 noise, and the smell of piss.