[QUOTE=MrNoodly;3064498]Isn't that where Holistic is / was?[/QUOTE]Okay, I think we have that settled. .
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[QUOTE=MrNoodly;3064498]Isn't that where Holistic is / was?[/QUOTE]Okay, I think we have that settled. .
[QUOTE=Import;3063072]We're talking about the place on Bristol St near South Coast Plaza. Upstairs in the 2-story building behind the McDonalds near the T J Maxx. It's a Chinese place. Sounds like some of the girls get naked and some offer FS.[/QUOTE]Do you know who offers FS here and what days they work? This locay is very convenient for me. PM me if you need to.
[QUOTE=AsianPussy;3060796]I need to take a girl-friend (not GF, just a friend) for a massage for her birthday. Can anyone suggest a place that does good CMT massage (for her) and gives HE (for me). I won't tell her what's up, I just want her to get her massage while I'm getting a handy.[/QUOTE]I've found that entering an AMP with a girl decreases your chance of an HE. I've tried before with a GF who didn't care if I got a handy while she's getting a massage in the next room. No dice, though. That said, a lot of the HJ-only AMPs give decent-to-good massages, so pick one, drop the signs, and hope for the best.
I'm curious who here are members of our own "social network" in OC. What are you looking for in MP's? I know some just can't live without the massage. Some have Asian MILF fetish, the more mature the better. But still, people are excited about FS, hot girls. But why?
Now qq starts at $120 in decent to classy hotels, not motels. Teen model types. Think one step up from Team Tijuana. And there are plenty to choose from. They share rooms so they can use any 4* hotels in the heart of OC when they want to. That's the same price as a HJ with an older woman, 49-69. Yeah, if you want to get it under $100 in MP I understand. The only con for these girls is that they are relatively high volume. But that's a lot less than MP's when you can see customers going in and out non-stop for hot girls.
You are lucky if you can find MP's with hot Korean girls for $40 hhr + $100 tips. In classy AAMP's the price is $180 hhr, maybe a little more for hot Koreans. It's priceless if I can avoid going into the shop front of an MP without backdoors, LOL. For $200 up you have selection of 18 year old school girl types, college girl types. And Team Tijuana, the OC version, beat them by offering $160.
And almost all offer BBBJ, most offer DFK, some CIM and a few SW. That's all in the PM you receive before making the decision to visit. In theory it's included in the hhr but usually you get everything on the menu for an hr, or if you repeat. Plenty offer the backdoor for about $100 extra.
And there's virtually no screening. Once a girl is willing to see you, you are verified in the club. Your list of verified conquest are free for all to see if you are willing. You can exchange tips and ding the guy if he lies.
I'm thinking of you guys because I am going to take my car to fix, at a place with 3 MP's across the road. So why you guys don't want any of the above? How is it better?
I'm not familiar with it. Is it like HX?
[QUOTE=JamesD2004;3065435]I'm curious who here are members of our own "social network" in OC. What are you looking for in MP's? I know some just can't live without the massage. Some have Asian MILF fetish, the more mature the better. But still, people are excited about FS, hot girls. But why?
Now qq starts at $120 in decent to classy hotels, not motels. Teen model types. Think one step up from Team Tijuana. And there are plenty to choose from. They share rooms so they can use any 4* hotels in the heart of OC when they want to. That's the same price as a HJ with an older woman, 49-69. Yeah, if you want to get it under $100 in MP I understand. The only con for these girls is that they are relatively high volume. But that's a lot less than MP's when you can see customers going in and out non-stop for hot girls.
You are lucky if you can find MP's with hot Korean girls for $40 hhr + $100 tips. In classy AAMP's the price is $180 hhr, maybe a little more for hot Koreans. It's priceless if I can avoid going into the shop front of an MP without backdoors, LOL. For $200 up you have selection of 18 year old school girl types, college girl types. And Team Tijuana, the OC version, beat them by offering $160.
And almost all offer BBBJ, most offer DFK, some CIM and a few SW. That's all in the PM you receive before making the decision to visit. In theory it's included in the hhr but usually you get everything on the menu for an hr, or if you repeat. Plenty offer the backdoor for about $100 extra.
And there's virtually no screening. Once a girl is willing to see you, you are verified in the club. Your list of verified conquest are free for all to see if you are willing. You can exchange tips and ding the guy if he lies.
I'm thinking of you guys because I am going to take my car to fix, at a place with 3 MP's across the road. So why you guys don't want any of the above? How is it better?[/QUOTE]
QQ means quickie. I know it's not on urban dictionary nor google. But it's a standardized menu for many years now. It's also used on Backpages. I never think twice about it. QQ is less than HHr and less than Hr. That's all I need to know. Never thought too much about it. It could stand for quick Q. And Q is inserting a stick into an O. Or may be quick cue. Yes, it's about HX but many AAMP and girls are also on ********.
[QUOTE=BimmyJarkley;3065073]Do you know who offers FS here and what days they work? This locay is very convenient for me. PM me if you need to.[/QUOTE]Another member heard the girl in the next room having FS. Maybe one of the guys here will share the girl's name.
Oh I see. No, I was familiar with the term but for some reason I thought it was spelled with lowercase so I thought this was something new, but whatever. Your experience must have been better than mine. HX quality AAMPs are 250+, so I tried a couple BP AAMPs lately and got Chinese farm ladies with C-section scars and lackluster performance in seedy motels. Junior threatened to quit, so I said no more. At least with AMPs I have the option to bail if I smell grannies lurking in the dark. I do my best to not pay until I see who's actually doing the work. On a site note, I must have an invisible tattoo on my forehead that reads "Got GILF?" Everyone sees it except me.
[QUOTE=JamesD2004;3065700]QQ means quickie. I know it's not on urban dictionary nor google. But it's a standardized menu for many years now. It's also used on Backpages. I never think twice about it. QQ is less than HHr and less than Hr. That's all I need to know. Never thought too much about it. It could stand for quick Q. And Q is inserting a stick into an O. Or may be quick cue. Yes, it's about HX but many AAMP and girls are also on ********.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Assaholic;3065806]Oh I see. No, I was familiar with the term but for some reason I thought it was spelled with lowercase so I thought this was something new, but whatever. Your experience must have been better than mine. HX quality AAMPs are 250+, so I tried a couple BP AAMPs lately and got Chinese farm ladies with C-section scars and lackluster performance in seedy motels. Junior threatened to quit, so I said no more. At least with AMPs I have the option to bail if I smell grannies lurking in the dark. I do my best to not pay until I see who's actually doing the work. On a site note, I must have an invisible tattoo on my forehead that reads "Got GILF?" Everyone sees it except me.[/QUOTE]That I'm confused. Yes, HX AAMP are more like $260 hr. One of the Thai club is cheaper for some girls. AMP $160 hhr? I would think AMP still take your room rate first before you see your girl. The BP AAMP are horrible. But you can always bail at the door. The BP AAMP's used to be about the same as the HX AAMP's. There were quality girls. But selling via BP they don't need to promise you anything and you can't complain. But do you need an hr? In the good old days, when I ordered a full hr in an AMP, the girl that I thought was my friend, did a two half hour, doing exactly the same thing again, and charged me according. And for the BP AAMP, the times when I didn't bail, it was like the morning after drunk sex. You picked up the very wrong person and wanted to get away ASAP. And the same for them. They didn't expect you to stay for an hr. They have nothing to entertain you if you can't go again.
So, per your requirement, it should be BP AAMP because you can bail without any damage.
I was way down in LF recently & went to Oasis based upon nothing more than the rubmaps comments that it was owned by the Ortega chick.
Got an incredibly hot young girl named "Yuni" who said she was from Cambodia.
Nice massage, very flirty and pressed up her hot little body against my arms & legs the whole time.
The flip led to a nice HJ ending, and she told me that's all they do there.
She had no problem with me rubbing her nice little ass over her pants, and she had no bra on and let me lick & lightly suck on her perfectly man-made boobies.
I will say, though, that she was so fucking hot and sexy and we had some good mojo going that I'll return even though I hate driving down that way.
[QUOTE=Caribe;3061415]Garage? Mattress on the floor? Sounds like you went to another location that I won't disclose. Handing over the phone sounds familiar. Heard that before. Not happy with tip? F&C girls have done a lot more for slightly more tip. Very odd report![/QUOTE]I believe it was the right place. F&C restaurant is right next door next to the grocery store. It was just odd. I didn't like the bait & switch at all. BTW the mms was bald while the masseuse had really short hair.
Alex, I would think you need to get pass Eva to get some fresh off the boat next time? What happened in rubmap, didn't stay in rubmap? Why?
Precisely, the problem is, one guy's incredible hot isn't the same to another guy. The incredibly hot viet students all charge me $100 for a plain handjob, on top of half hr. And they don't know massage. That's already pass the qq fee with a Tijuana model in an upscale OC hotel. And I have pic to proof it! And you can book it twice every week. I know you can get it cheaper but that's how they make the most of the guy in the MP room, no matter how much you can afford.
I just fixed my car at the other end of LF and went into one of the 3 MP's. I was early so I wasn't expecting much and I got the woman, let's say, you can concentrate on the massage and the handjob. In the MP across the street, my person long jump record is shooting above the belly button. It may be just a few inches but there's no direct route to get there. My wad had to shoot up high in the air and then drop back at destination. I don't even know I can still do that. Most of the time I shoot inside pussies or mouths.
Today is my new personal record. It got to the back of my left shoulder! You can imagine my position and what I was doing. It was everywhere and she didn't know where to start cleaning up. She had to rinse the tower before coming back to clean up 2nd time. I had to point to my shoulder so she wouldn't miss. If I was lying straight up and doing nothing else, it could have gone to my mouth! Yuk!
[QUOTE=JamesD2004;3066624]Alex, I would think you need to get pass Eva to get some fresh off the boat next time? What happened in rubmap, didn't stay in rubmap? Why?
Precisely, the problem is, one guy's incredible hot isn't the same to another guy. The incredibly hot viet students all charge me $100 for a plain handjob, on top of half hr. And they don't know massage. That's already pass the qq fee with a Tijuana model in an upscale OC hotel. And I have pic to proof it! And you can book it twice every week. I know you can get it cheaper but that's how they make the most of the guy in the MP room, no matter how much you can afford.
I just fixed my car at the other end of LF and went into one of the 3 MP's. I was early so I wasn't expecting much and I got the woman, let's say, you can concentrate on the massage and the handjob. In the MP across the street, my person long jump record is shooting above the belly button. It may be just a few inches but there's no direct route to get there. My wad had to shoot up high in the air and then drop back at destination. I don't even know I can still do that. Most of the time I shoot inside pussies or mouths.
Today is my new personal record. It got to the back of my left shoulder! You can imagine my position and what I was doing. It was everywhere and she didn't know where to start cleaning up. She had to rinse the tower before coming back to clean up 2nd time. I had to point to my shoulder so she wouldn't miss. If I was lying straight up and doing nothing else, it could have gone to my mouth! Yuk![/QUOTE]Dude, I've done the shoulder shot many a times, and even once gave myself a pearl necklace. That fucking sucked.
That's just one reason why CIM is so great.
Anyway, who / what / where are these Tijuana girls?
[QUOTE=AlexRodriguez;3068091]Dude, I've done the shoulder shot many a times, and even once gave myself a pearl necklace. That fucking sucked.
That's just one reason why CIM is so great.
Anyway, who / what / where are these Tijuana girls?[/QUOTE]I'm sure I could have shot across football fields in high school. But I didn't listen to the advice that watching too much porn will make you go blind. Now when I jerk off it's more like a lava flow. I am happy if I can even get airborne.
I would think those Spanish classified, like OC register in the past, with ads like 60/30 are it. But it is easier at HX. I am saying you can find Team Tijuana types. Teen model looking, great service, cheap, certainly not all of the above at once.
Hi Dudes.
Is this still functioning. Trying to call them to fix appointment, but no one attending the call.
[URL]http://orangecounty.postfastr.com/TherapeuticMassage/beautiful-asian-grooming-sevice-haircut-wax-shave-trim-massage/46852385[/URL]
I am looking for similar one. Any reference will be much appreciated.
[QUOTE=IrvFun;3068892]Hi Dudes.
Is this still functioning. Trying to call them to fix appointment, but no one attending the call.
[URL]http://orangecounty.postfastr.com/TherapeuticMassage/beautiful-asian-grooming-sevice-haircut-wax-shave-trim-massage/46852385[/URL]
I am looking for similar one. Any reference will be much appreciated.[/QUOTE]Answered 714-383-0961 and open 'till 5 today.
[QUOTE=JamesD2004;3068170]I'm sure I could have shot across football fields in high school. But I didn't listen to the advice that watching too much porn will make you go blind. Now when I jerk off it's more like a lava flow. I am happy if I can even get airborne.
I would think those Spanish classified, like OC register in the past, with ads like 60/30 are it. But it is easier at HX. I am saying you can find Team Tijuana types. Teen model looking, great service, cheap, certainly not all of the above at once.[/QUOTE]Not that it's my business, but you can work those muscles by holding back at climax, calming get down a bit, and doing it again. C rings also help. Also, your mental level of excitement does a great deal. Not REALLY into it? Lava flow.
[QUOTE=DatFullService;3069380]Not that it's my business, but you can work those muscles by holding back at climax, calming get down a bit, and doing it again. C rings also help. Also, your mental level of excitement does a great deal. Not REALLY into it? Lava flow.[/QUOTE]Thanks, but porn is free so I don't mind care as long as I came happy. Come to think about it, I know the sure thing that works for me. Abstain for at least a week. Decent massage for an hr including leg joint rub and butt rub. Complete relax flat, assuming the feeding position. Pull up her bra and pull down her panty. While feeding hard, squeeze hard on remaining tit and butt. Think of the hourly rate and do not let go of anything and hold. Think about the money and hold. The rest are my personal best history, LOL.
Crack, but why?
She didn't answer because she was giving me haircut and massage.
[QUOTE=Caribe;3068963]Answered 714-383-0961 and open 'till 5 today.[/QUOTE]
P&C wellness always has some slutty looking girls. I been lots of times. 30 for an hour. First I saw Lucy walking from the back and I said hi. She had a nasty staff infection in her eye. That told me to get the heck out. Bummer.
I went to Happy Happy. I like both Sophias there. 30 for an hour. Pvt rooms mostly. I got the bigger one this time. She had on short shorts. Very soft chunky legs just the way I like them. Massage was good. She plays a bit. More then reg ending if you pay. The other Sophia thin and hot to me. She's very picky. I am super nice to her and she knows it. Let me in her baggy shorts the last time. She will giggle when she's happy. Place is very busy most days.
Across from serenity in Lake Forest. Joanne still not back but Tina is one of my favs. Big round tight ass. Shaved, nice tits and soft skin. She likes tease'and and hugs. Last time I had her do a slide not a HJ. She's not into F-ing or sucking. Other girls there are.
Wally: The $30 hr thing came to LF now? I would think most of the MP listed in RM are still $50 to $60? You got a good massage for $30? What's the total damage? Don't post in decimals as that is a bit silly now. Just look at my handle <<. PM me the details of a hot girl and I'll verify for you. And don't wait too long as I had come last Thu, Fri and I have appointments coming up.
If anyone is interested in the MP's in the other end of LF, I can share. The good thing is that many shops in a row are closed down so that's as good as having a back door.
[QUOTE=JamesD2004;3069935]Wally: The $30 hr thing came to LF now? I would think most of the MP listed in RM are still $50 to $60? You got a good massage for $30? What's the total damage? Don't post in decimals as that is a bit silly now. Just look at my handle <<. PM me the details of a hot girl and I'll verify for you. And don't wait too long as I had come last Thu, Fri and I have appointments coming up.
If anyone is interested in the MP's in the other end of LF, I can share. The good thing is that many shops in a row are closed down so that's as good as having a back door.[/QUOTE]PM me about LF please. It's a convenient location for me on the way home from work.
If you are local, the info at the toll road end of LF does not need PM. There are three where I fix small things for my car. For bigger things, I drive to Santa Ana. My local mechanics sort of tell me you get a good price if the shop has plenty of space. Or they will rush you car out and take others in, just like MP's, LOL.
The old one across the hotel is still standing. The massage is pretty consistent, as good as any other MP. There are two newer ones in the adjacent mall with a lot of vacant shops. The one at the corner is more like a women day spa, so we shall skip that. Both MP are Chinese, $60 hr, and very good massage. HE is always provided. I put $60 under my wallet on the nightstand and I always get it even at the first visit.
Now why would I do that if I'm not fixing my car? For that money I can have a qq with a teen model, though of the Tijuana type, in a 3*+ hotel right in OC. If you do it right they are too happy to take the extra money.
Now back to LF. There is a famous girl in the old MP who offer FS! Half of the guys don't like her face and in her 40's. But she is a tiny spinner with kids, possibly still in her 30's. Her body is very decent and a good fuck. Well, if you are in the mood for a HJ, why not tell her to bend down and give it to her pussy? She was actually low mileage, wouldn't even blow. She offered FS to stay in the MP. Good tips in the area and less competition than, say, Orange the city. If you don't have enough customers, you will be fired, or there's no point to turn up for work. And I don't think she survived, but according to RM, a woman with the same name may still be there.
I usually get the short straw because I was just fixing my car. But when got out I can see the other woman is rather decent. OL hair. Slim hands. Silhouette in good shape. In both the old and the new. If you have a choice, don't go before 10 am. As usually, better girls will be there nearer the weekend. For LF, Sat afternoon used to be the best time. They may consider closing at 7 pm on a Monday if they don't have bookings.
Even if they have a hotter woman, they will pair it with a dog, unless all the hotties compete for the job openings, LOL. The system in both houses is taking turns. So if you don't like what you see, say you are checking it out on the way, ask the price and ask if they take appointments, etc. And tell them you will be back for the massage later.
Old mp in LF is 109? Sorry you lost me PM me the old one with the full tune up.
Dude, my head is STILL spinning! LOL Suddenly, posting in decimals doesn't seem so silly after all. .
Dutch.
[QUOTE=FeMaiden;3070132]Old mp in LF is 109? Sorry you lost me PM me the old one with the full tune up.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=DutchTreat;3070266]Dude, my head is STILL spinning! LOL Suddenly, posting in decimals doesn't seem so silly after all. .
Dutch.[/QUOTE]30 an hour is not in lake forest. Westminster.
Old lake forest body center on el toro. For old guys that remember, the new lakeshore-lakeview with joanne who is not back yet, is located at 109 in that building now.
Thank you for the translation!
Dutch.
[QUOTE=WallyWally;3070448]30 an hour is not in lake forest. Westminster.
Old lake forest body center on el toro. For old guys that remember, the new lakeshore-lakeview with joanne who is not back yet, is located at 109 in that building now.[/QUOTE]
[URL]http://reason.com/archives/2016/09/09/the-truth-about-us-sex-trafficking[/URL]
[QUOTE=PhineasPhreak;3071276][URL]http://reason.com/archives/2016/09/09/the-truth-about-us-sex-trafficking[/URL][/QUOTE]What a read, took me an hour. But yes what a shame in the end.
TTM.
[QUOTE=PhineasPhreak;3071276][URL]http://reason.com/archives/2016/09/09/the-truth-about-us-sex-trafficking[/URL][/QUOTE]That explains when I heard about it, I though LE finally did some real anti-trafficking work. Then I heard nothing because I think nobody cared because nobody is trafficking anybody.
In summary, it's the same old story. If you run a website, don't get involved in the buy and sell. But if you do, you can easily get off by paying them off, like the RED BOOK guys. No jail time. Fined millions but they get much more than that over the years. Encouraging for the other local sites?
For the clients, the new bit is that writing reviews can be taken as the promotion of prostitution. Let's see how the trial goes. But clients are dumb to meet. There are still socials in HX because it's the madams who organized it. She is sure those who turn up slept with her girls, and that LE are not allowed to do so. At least citizens will bark if they pay for that. To be prosecuted you have to be identified. Of course if you go to meets you expose your license plate. Others us personal emails. Using VPN is almost 100% safe but even with your IP it's not easy to proof who wrote the reviews unless the stupid webmaster store logs. ISP logs just prove that you visited those websites.
And then you should not shit where you eat. Post reviews and buy in different websites with different handles. With the demise of Red Book, who would have thought webmasters didn't scale down their direct involvements?
Wait a minute. I have members confessed unknowingly that the said madam took in club members who haven't seen any of her girls. Somebody tell her that and be careful.
[QUOTE=JamesD2004;3071366]That explains when I heard about it, I though LE finally did some real anti-trafficking work. Then I heard nothing because I think nobody cared because nobody is trafficking anybody.
In summary, it's the same old story. If you run a website, don't get involved in the buy and sell. But if you do, you can easily get off by paying them off, like the RED BOOK guys. No jail time. Fined millions but they get much more than that over the years. Encouraging for the other local sites?
For the clients, the new bit is that writing reviews can be taken as the promotion of prostitution. Let's see how the trial goes. But clients are dumb to meet. There are still socials in HX because it's the madams who organized it. She is sure those who turn up slept with her girls, and that LE are not allowed to do so. At least citizens will bark if they pay for that. To be prosecuted you have to be identified. Of course if you go to meets you expose your license plate. Others us personal emails. Using VPN is almost 100% safe but even with your IP it's not easy to proof who wrote the reviews unless the stupid webmaster store logs. ISP logs just prove that you visited those websites.
And then you should not shit where you eat. Post reviews and buy in different websites with different handles. With the demise of Red Book, who would have thought webmasters didn't scale down their direct involvements?[/QUOTE]Just curious regarding how the Redbook federal case was adjudicated. Did Omura plea bargain? The oinkers stole millions of dollars from him and charged him with several felonies. I didn't hear what happened in court though.
[QUOTE=PhineasPhreak;3071480]Just curious regarding how the Redbook federal case was adjudicated. Did Omura plea bargain? The oinkers stole millions of dollars from him and charged him with several felonies. I didn't hear what happened in court though.[/QUOTE]I was wrong. No jail for Lanoce only. And I bet Omuro could spend a few month only. And since he may very well be loaded, he can afford all the protection money.
"Omuro was sentenced to 13 months in federal prison for his role in running the website. Lanoce pleaded guilty last year and received a deferred sentence that allowed her to avoid a felony charge with good behavior. ".
All this nonsense has a chilling effect throughout the industry. I really hope the nice people at [URL]usaXXXguide.info[/URL] have good legal counsel and have taken precautions against this type of overzealous prosecution by the ill-informed, facetious, lying bastards who get off on trampling over the Constitution.
I travel on business often, and I can't imagine getting caught up in something like this when I am out of town. I mean, who would post bond for me? I am seriously re-examining my routine and will probably stay away for a while, just spending time with some long time regulars who are on the same page as I am.
Rather than chilling, I would say it's business as usual, nothing to worry about. Review sites are legit and LE has nothing on them. They have to have reason to get the identity of some reviewers, and then prove that some of the reviews are real. If you don't book through the same site with the same handle, there's nothing on you.
In that case, nobody I think is prosecuted for just being a john. But a guy, unfortunately, arrived at a sting. For example at HX, you just put down money on the table and don't need to say anything. That's the old school to be unstingable. But now everything is agreed in advance so there's nothing to say. The website is run independently. Then you use PM. And the PM is separated from SMS. So you have to have both records to prove anything if at all. You have to bust the site for the PM. And you have to bust the booker for the SMS. It's almost impossible as he may be in India at a call center. If they bust the girl, there's nothing against you. Her phone only have records that somebody is coming and for how long. If they bust you there's nothing on your phone. Unless you volunteer your handle and your PM's. And it's not like they are using brothels. Now mostly you will find a girl in a very respectable hotel room, or one girl in a private resident.
If you film it, now your are just making a porn movie.
[QUOTE=JamesD2004;3072110]Rather than chilling, I would say it's business as usual, nothing to worry about. Review sites are legit and LE has nothing on them. They have to have reason to get the identity of some reviewers, and then prove that some of the reviews are real. If you don't book through the same site with the same handle, there's nothing on you.
In that case, nobody I think is prosecuted for just being a john. But a guy, unfortunately, arrived at a sting. For example at HX, you just put down money on the table and don't need to say anything. That's the old school to be unstingable. But now everything is agreed in advance so there's nothing to say. The website is run independently. Then you use PM. And the PM is separated from SMS. So you have to have both records to prove anything if at all. You have to bust the site for the PM. And you have to bust the booker for the SMS. It's almost impossible as he may be in India at a call center. If they bust the girl, there's nothing against you. Her phone only have records that somebody is coming and for how long. If they bust you there's nothing on your phone. Unless you volunteer your handle and your PM's. And it's not like they are using brothels. Now mostly you will find a girl in a very respectable hotel room, or one girl in a private resident.[/QUOTE]
If you want some good reading about what exactly LE can do with a review site such as this, Google "thereviewboard Seattle". There's a lot more to it than just reviews, but info can be gathered and used.
I hope this post doesn't break any rules about advertising competitors seeing as how the site involved has been seized and shut down.
[blue]Ok, I'll respond. LE didn't do anything because of the review board, the review board got seized because one of the guys running it boasted about being a human trafficker and and he fucking was.
They have a term for your argument here, it's called a false analogy. Our actions in regards to this forum can most certainly be used against us, the operators of this forum. What you post here cannot be used against you because who the fuck is "Its Crazy?" Is that the name on your drivers license? Does your birth certificate say "Its Crazy?" How EXACTLY can your info be gathered and used? They can't get it from us because we don't collect any info about our members beyond an email address. We have no names, no addresses, no phone numbers, no IP information, we collect nothing. Where EXACTLY would they get that? From our web hosting company? That's a German company, is so Orange County DA going to serve an international warrant under the Hague Conventions to try and secure a misdemeanor conviction on one of you guys for solicitation? Because without a warrant the Germans who run our hosting service are going to politly tell them "Tank you bud mitout un varrent I'm zorry bud dad infooorrrrmazun es confidential."
The reviewboards members didn't get busted, its OPERATORS did because of their actions in conjunction to their business.
The Redbook guys went down for facilitation prostitution, again NONE of their members did. The Redbook guys were also in the USA, we are not nor are our servers.
Yes, we, like Larry Flyntt, Lenny Bruce, and others before us take a risk in the work we do and we accept that risk. The membership here, if they are smart enough to use the site as it is intended do not.
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PS, for the future, if your yearly post is going to be about telling guys bullshit stories to scare them into not using the site like you don't I'm going to take care of that. We welcome real criticism or commentary but this is horseshit and you aren't really involved in the community.[/blue]
Okay folks here is a review about my third visit to F&C. I woke up this morning at 7 am and decided to call F&C knowing that it was closed. To my surprised mamasan picked up the phone. I asked if they were open and she was mumbling "uh uh uh". I said "It's okay I can come later" then she asked "what time?" I thought I should try and say "right now" which I did. She responded "I'm at home, you pick up?" In my mind I was like did I hear that right? I then asked "I come now to pick you up?" She said "Come at 8" and I said "Okay you text me address". About 5 minutes later she texted me a picture of an envelope that has someone's name and address on it. I don't know whose name it was nor will I say what the name is. All I will say is that the name is a Vietnamese name which surprised me since I'm 99% positive mamasan is Chinese. Anyway, at 8 I went to the address and parked my car a few houses down and texted her. She came out and the first thing I noticed was her bald head. I drove up right outside the driveway and pulled my window down. She stood there and stared at me then said "You call?" I nodded and she came to my window and said "40 okay?" In my mind I thought of only 2 scenarios:
1. Mamasan lets me in and I give her. 4.
2. I drive her to F&C then I give her. 4.
I was confused because she didn't seem ready (she was in pajamas and no wig) so I didn't want to hand her the money just yet.
She asked "You give me 40 ok?" a few times and one then one of her neighbor who was doing yard work heard a slight commotion and thought there was a problem. He approached us with both of his hands raised to show that he was of no harm. He asked her "Is everything okay" then mamasan said "it's okay. " I freaked out a bit so I just handed her. 4 and then she yelled "LENA!" a few times. Lena came out of the door all nicely dressed with her bags and lunch. As she was walking toward my car I saw a white man between 45-55 coming out of their house. He stood in front of the door and watches us leave. She got in my car and I drove off. I looked at my mirror and saw the neighbor still standing on the street besides mamasan, both watching us as we drove off. This was a weird and kind of terrifying experience for me. I almost hit the gas when the neighbor approached us. Anyway I literally thought mamasan was the one who was offering the service LOL. We arrived at F&C at 8:15 and Lena opened the door. I've seen her once so this is my second time seeing her. Because we were alone, she didn't rush anything. We started with a back massage for half hour then the fun began right after when I flipped. I didn't bring a bag so she offered one to me. Unfortunately jim wouldn't get up with the bag on so she ended up throwing it out. She started with a BBBJ and moved to DT. Even though she gagged quite a bit she continued to give me a DT for a good 10 minutes. She was really messy. Her spit was all over me and she went on to lick my nipples, belly button, sack, and all around. I was literally soaked in her pool of saliva. She hopped on for bbcg and since nobody was in here she wasn't afraid to moan very loud. She was really wet and tight. She was jumping up and down on me for a good 3 or so minutes then she came. We cuddled for a bit then she went back to BBBJ again. She kept saying how she really loves to suck it. Both of my balls went in her mouth and she sucked on them pretty good too. We finished with BBBJCIM no swallow. She spit the load on my stomach and rubbed her body all over it. It was really really messy. Never knew she likes it this dirty. During the cuddle she whispered to me to tip her a benjamin. I ended up tipping her. 9 since that was all the cash I had in my wallet. Everything lasted for about an hour. She hugged me and told me to go home take a hot shower, come back in 2 weeks, I love to kiss, and I love you. I left the door around 9:15. Don't know if I'm going to come back. She must have memorized my face since I drove her. I intended to tip her. 4 which I'm assuming is the usual you guys tip her. Now she's going to want more from me from now on. That's my morning story folks. I still can't believe Lena lives with mamasan. I wonder who that white man was and how they are all related.
[QUOTE=ItsCrazy;3075020]If you want some good reading about what exactly LE can do with a review site such as this, Google "thereviewboard Seattle". There's a lot more to it than just reviews, but info can be gathered and used.
I hope this post doesn't break any rules about advertising competitors seeing as how the site involved has been seized and shut down.
[blue]Ok, I'll respond. LE didn't do anything because of the review board, the review board got seized because one of the guys running it boasted about being a human trafficker and and he fucking was.
They have a term for your argument here, it's called a false analogy. Our actions in regards to this forum can most certainly be used against us, the operators of this forum. What you post here cannot be used against you because who the fuck is "Its Crazy?" Is that the name on your drivers license? Does your birth certificate say "Its Crazy?" How EXACTLY can your info be gathered and used? They can't get it from us because we don't collect any info about our members beyond an email address. We have no names, no addresses, no phone numbers, no IP information, we collect nothing. Where EXACTLY would they get that? From our web hosting company? That's a German company, is so Orange County DA going to serve an international warrant under the Hague Conventions to try and secure a misdemeanor conviction on one of you guys for solicitation? Because without a warrant the Germans who run our hosting service are going to politly tell them "Tank you bud mitout un varrent I'm zorry bud dad infooorrrrmazun es confidential."
The reviewboards members didn't get busted, its OPERATORS did because of their actions in conjunction to their business.
The Redbook guys went down for facilitation prostitution, again NONE of their members did. The Redbook guys were also in the USA, we are not nor are our servers.
Yes, we, like Larry Flyntt, Lenny Bruce, and others before us take a risk in the work we do and we accept that risk. The membership here, if they are smart enough to use the site as it is intended do not.
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PS, for the future, if your yearly post is going to be about telling guys bullshit stories to scare them into not using the site like you don't I'm going to take care of that. We welcome real criticism or commentary but this is horseshit and you aren't really involved in the community.[/blue][/QUOTE]My intention wasn't to scare anyone into silence or to spread misinformation. After rereading my post, I can see how it could be taken that way. For that, I apologize.
In regards to members not sharing risk, I believe there have been members involved that were caught up in the reviewboard situation. However, this was due to them bragging and giving too much personal info (as you mentioned). My goal was simply to say that people should be careful, which I failed to communicate clearly.
Again, no harm was intended.
[blue]Yes, those members created a club and met in reality, they also created a separate site that they used which put them on record of the owners of that site. I appreciate the clarification on your part.
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