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[QUOTE=Vx333;5290314]It's less about the water and more about making the process time-consuming and unpleasant enough to get people to give up and go home in the less-nice (black / ethnic / poor) areas of town.
For instance: I live in an upper-class area of town. There are three voting precincts within two miles of me. There was no line when I went, it took all of 5 minutes. I didn't think about bringing snacks, water, or anything. Just stopped by, voted, and left. Probably 15-20 voting machines inside.
I also accompanied two friends to vote. One in East Point, one in Norcross, both poorer and more diverse areas. Waiting times were well over an hour. No shade for people to wait in. Lines wrapped around the buildings (church and library), but there were only 3 voting machines at each location.
Signature matching, on the other hand, is a whole different ballgame. I know I don't have a consistent signature. I rarely have to sign shit. If someone were supposed to verify my signature against my drivers license? My vote would 100% be thrown out. As would everyone else without a practiced, consistent signature. Think about the kinds of people who have one, think about the kinds of people who don't.[/QUOTE]If you wish to see the devil behind every Bush and tree then that is what you will see. You act like only white people have to wait for five minutes under shady trees to vote. I'm a white guy who waited in line for up to two hours in the last two elections along with the other ethnic representations. In fact, there were a lot of white people standing in line as well. Of course we were all outraged that no one from the slave class came to hold palm fronds over our white heads to shield us from the boiling sun overhead. In November and January no less. You say we are only seeing 50% turnout for elections. Where did you get that figure? Seems quite low to me. Blacks are voting in record numbers and yet somehow they are being suppressed and prevented from voting? Think about the people out there (Stacy Abrams, for example) who are using people like you to advocate voter fraud. She is all about that, by the way. Can the system be improved? Yes, of course, and it always should be to include as many people as possible, but the one thing that should never be compromised is the rule of identification. Get rid of that and you might as well not have elections anymore, which is part of the woke plan, by the way. I don't know why you don't know how to sign your name anymore but it is becoming clearer to me why cursive writing skills are being abandoned as part of the educational process. Fits right in with Fat Stacy and her mob's agenda. Create chaos, divide, and then conquer.
Who is to blame for the long lines?
[QUOTE=Vx333;5290314]It's less about the water and more about making the process time-consuming and unpleasant enough to get people to give up and go home in the less-nice (black / ethnic / poor) areas of town.
For instance: I live in an upper-class area of town. There are three voting precincts within two miles of me. There was no line when I went, it took all of 5 minutes. I didn't think about bringing snacks, water, or anything. Just stopped by, voted, and left. Probably 15-20 voting machines inside.
I also accompanied two friends to vote. One in East Point, one in Norcross, both poorer and more diverse areas. Waiting times were well over an hour. No shade for people to wait in. Lines wrapped around the buildings (church and library), but there were only 3 voting machines at each location.
Signature matching, on the other hand, is a whole different ballgame. I know I don't have a consistent signature. I rarely have to sign shit. If someone were supposed to verify my signature against my drivers license? My vote would 100% be thrown out. As would everyone else without a practiced, consistent signature. Think about the kinds of people who have one, think about the kinds of people who don't.
Either way, we're still only seeing 50% turnout for elections. The question should be how can we get more voters, rather than how can we add extra steps to the process. Something something taxation without representation. Because the IRS misses NOBODY.[/QUOTE]The state is not responsible for long lines most of the time. That is the responsibility of the County Election Officials the same ones who can be relieved by the state if they consistently have issues. The one exception in my 21 years of voting in GA was last year's primaries with the new machines and I do not who exactly to blame. Many places were having issues getting the machines to recognize the DLs and it turns out they were not trained correctly. When word came down to place the DLs upside down and they worked, my poll Mgr stated that this was contrary to their training.
Where did you get talking points from?
[QUOTE=JHype1980;5293475]The most dangerous part of the Georgia voting law is that it removes from the State Election Board the vote of the Secretary of State even though under Georgia Constitution, the Scty of State oversees elections. It also puts the board under the control of the legislature. And the election board can suspend and replace any local election official basically anytime they want, for just about any reason like having an honest election. (And I thought Republicans didn't like big government). [/QUOTE]Did you get this straight from CNN?
[QUOTE=JHype1980;5293475]If that had been the law in November, a state board controlled by the Republican legislature would have been able to do exactly what President Trump illegally wanted firing election officials in counties, like Clayton, Dekalb and Fulton, that voted big for Biden. And then sending in carpetbaggers to declare fraud where there was none, and fraudulently throw out thousands of African-American votes. [/QUOTE]Read the law. No more than 4 counties at a time, for 4 month stints, extendable to 9 months and only if they receive 3 or more complaints over 2 consecutive elections for a minimum of six complaints without resolution.
[QUOTE=JHype1980;5293475]And yes there are even more ways that the new voter suppression law is designed to make voting harder in Georgia: [/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=JHype1980;5293475]- You can still vote absentee for any reason, but now it's illegal for officials to send absentee applications to every voter. [/QUOTE]Was never codified, some counties just up and did it. So did some DNC committee. Absentee ballots should never be sent arbitrarily, only when requested.
[QUOTE=JHype1980;5293475]- The law also reduces how much time a voter has to request a ballot, and blocks any organizations that help people get absentee ballots. It also requires every absentee voter to jump through extra hoops that a voter at the polls does NOT have to. [/QUOTE]Voters at polls have to present a photo I'd and so do absentee ballots. They actually increase total # in GA and it exceeds NY, CO, and DE.
[QUOTE=JHype1980;5293475]- The new law sets up requirements for early voting like not allowing it after 5 pm that make it harder for working people to vote. It also eliminates mobile voting stations, except in an emergency like hurricanes or alien invasion and only if the governor says to do it. [/QUOTE]7 PM. Read it.
[QUOTE=JHype1980;5293475]- Also puts huge limits on local officials allowing extra "drop boxes" for absentee ballots, another way of increasing the odds of long long lines at the regular polls. [/QUOTE]By GA Code, after Gov Kemp's emergency COVID order expires so do the dropboxes. Now they are codified and permanent.
[QUOTE=JHype1980;5293475]- Altogether, the law's discourage absentee voting and make early voting less effective. The intent seems to be causing much much longer & slower lines at the polls, which, again, will mean large numbers of working class, elderly, and sick voters who just give up and go home. [/QUOTE]Once again, CNN BS. The number of polling places and machines are controlled by counties but each polling place should not exceed 2,000 registered voters. See 21-2-263 (a).
[QUOTE=JHype1980;5293475]- And if anybody who comes along to offer a battle of water or a Ritz cracker to a voter getting thirsty or tired? Well, as everyone has heard, now that simple, kind gesture will be a crime, thanks to our state elected officials. [/QUOTE]Water can be distributed outside the 150 ft ltd of the building and self-serve by poll workers.
[QUOTE=JHype1980;5293475]Bottom line: Georgia had an incredibly close & fair election, in which officials most of them Republicans did a great job encouraging every legal voter to vote. Almost 5 million people voted the most ever and Joe Biden surprisingly won by a tiny <12,000 margin. There was no evidence of voting fraud, and barely even any apparent human error. The only thing that supposedly "went wrong," was that the losing party was sore that it lost the presidential election and two US Senate seats. Why did the Republicans lose the presidential vote in Georgia? And the Senate slots? Primarily because 1000's of women in the suburbs & smaller cities who had been solid GOP voters were disgusted by Donald Trump's lunatic comments, denials, and lack of concern about COVID. The outlawing of water and snacks in voter lines has been the sensational attention-getter but the usurpation of local control has been way under emphasized.[/QUOTE]I think they saw they made the rules too loose several years back so they swung it back some.
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Sgt. Lurker: I think we know where he got them. Thank you for rebutting him point by point. I'll add my own post tomorrow. Thanks for continuing the fight.
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"You are technically correct, the best kind of correct. " - Number 1. 0, Futurama.
A most excellent rebuttal, sir.
