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[QUOTE=Camhole;5703118]Yet another Rex alt I had to block. How fucking pathetic.[/QUOTE]When you give him attention, even to call him out on a fight thread, you encourage him to keep posting because this is exactly what he's looking for.
Don't quote him, don't mention him, don't give him any attention, just report the post, let me ban it and move on.
A2.
[URL]https://www.worldwithoutexploitation.org/bios/alisa-bernard[/URL]
[URL]https://thistlefarms.org/pages/alisa-bernard[/URL]
[URL]https://crosscut.com/author/alisa-bernard[/URL]
Did you know that if you are caught in a sting by the Bellevue Police, the John school you have to attend costs about $900? Yeah, let that sink in.
Look at these links, and see the pictures of Alisa Bernard, the face of "survivors of prostitution. " I bet that at least FIVE of you have dated her. If you pooned in Seattle from 2001-2007 or so, you very likely booked her through one of the at least three agencies she worked for.
Also public knowledge: Remember the Garden of Eden? The ex-boyfriend of the owner turned her into the police. Alisa worked for that agency. One of the girls told that boyfriend about an abusive client. Most in the Seattle hobby scene believe that Alisa is the one who told him about what the Garden of Eden is, as he claimed to have not known (yeah right!
I booked Alisa three times, through a different agency. I know, for those who haven't dated her, looking at her pictures, you're thinking, SHE was a high earner? She was actually decent in her early 20's. However, I had a feeling that she wouldn't age well. She has that "Norwegian nose" that I hate. She actually offered to marry me back then (I wonder how many clients she offered to marry) and while that sounded flattering, I sensed that when she would be a 45 year old wife and Mom, she would be overweight, wearing glasses, and looking like a Trailer Trash wife and Mom. She actually looks even worse, and she's still only about 37 now. She used to have a slim fit athletic body with a great ass, but she looks overweight now. She will look very decrepit at 45.
She was known to be a total LIAR, who told people she was in college, when she was a high school dropout, who took to the streets, young. She would say things at the end of my (and every other guy's dates) dates, "Oh, I don't want to leave! I love sex!" When I asked other girls who knew her if manipulative is a word to describe her, they said yes.
Alisa IS part of the John school curriculum! If you have to go to John school, you will have Alisa come in, lecturing you, talking down to you, and shaming you for "what you're doing to these girls," and how "prostitution is never a victimless crime," and yada yada. I don't need this pathological phony liar, who offered to marry me (probably offered the same to scores of other male clients too) trying to teach me anything about prostitution, and the scars it leaves on the victims.
Here's where all of YOU are DEAD WRONG: The stories about the Bellevue road rage high speed chases, and the Bellevue Police Department's absence on the road, tells you just where "dealing with reckless drivers" and "setting up John traps at Bellevue incalls," show their respective spots on the Bellevue Police's totem pole.
It's too bad that you criticize one of your own (a fellow male hobbyist) who has FIRST hand experience about how the Bellevue Police operate. He showed you just how high of a priority it is for the Bellevue Police to set up stings, as evidenced by the recent arrest of 16 hobbyists, who fell into the trap at a Bellevue incall last week.
Did YOU know that the MANDATORY John school that you go to, if you're arrested by the Bellevue Police, costs $900, literally? Yeah, you learned something, didn't you, Buckaroo.
It's too bad that you fail to realize, that we make hobbyists are all on the SAME side. Rather than absorbing a learning experience, that can save you $900, you just dismiss it.
If YOU want to get arrested by the Bellevue Police, waste $900 on John school, and have Alisa Bernard talk down to you at John school, suit yourself.
[QUOTE=Admin2;5704344]When you give him attention, even to call him out on a fight thread, you encourage him to keep posting because this is exactly what he's looking for.
Don't quote him, don't mention him, don't give him any attention, just report the post, let me ban it and move on.
A2.[/QUOTE]You are correct sir and I will do my sober best to follow your advice. No promises about drunk me though, as he's kinda an asshole.
Oh my that is funny; I got a book 3 get one free from her years ago. She has NOT aged well. By the way, victim Alisa, remember the BBFSCIP was YOUR idea.
[QUOTE=Burnette1974;5704355][URL]https://www.worldwithoutexploitation.org/bios/alisa-bernard[/URL]
[URL]https://thistlefarms.org/pages/alisa-bernard[/URL]
[URL]https://crosscut.com/author/alisa-bernard[/URL]
Did you know that if you are caught in a sting by the Bellevue Police, the John school you have to attend costs about $900? Yeah, let that sink in.
Look at these links, and see the pictures of Alisa Bernard, the face of "survivors of prostitution. " I bet that at least FIVE of you have dated her. If you pooned in Seattle from 2001-2007 or so, you very likely booked her through one of the at least three agencies she worked for.
Also public knowledge: Remember the Garden of Eden? The ex-boyfriend of the owner turned her into the police. Alisa worked for that agency. One of the girls told that boyfriend about an abusive client. Most in the Seattle hobby scene believe that Alisa is the one who told him about what the Garden of Eden is, as he claimed to have not known (yeah right!
I booked Alisa three times, through a different agency. I know, for those who haven't dated her, looking at her pictures, you're thinking, SHE was a high earner? She was actually decent in her early 20's. However, I had a feeling that she wouldn't age well. She has that "Norwegian nose" that I hate. She actually offered to marry me back then (I wonder how many clients she offered to marry) and while that sounded flattering, I sensed that when she would be a 45 year old wife and Mom, she would be overweight, wearing glasses, and looking like a Trailer Trash wife and Mom. She actually looks even worse, and she's still only about 37 now. She used to have a slim fit athletic body with a great ass, but she looks overweight now. She will look very decrepit at 45.
She was known to be a total LIAR, who told people she was in college, when she was a high school dropout, who took to the streets, young. She would say things at the end of my (and every other guy's dates) dates, "Oh, I don't want to leave! I love sex!" When I asked other girls who knew her if manipulative is a word to describe her, they said yes.
Alisa IS part of the John school curriculum! If you have to go to John school, you will have Alisa come in, lecturing you, talking down to you, and shaming you for "what you're doing to these girls," and how "prostitution is never a victimless crime," and yada yada. I don't need this pathological phony liar, who offered to marry me (probably offered the same to scores of other male clients too) trying to teach me anything about prostitution, and the scars it leaves on the victims.
Here's where all of YOU are DEAD WRONG: The stories about the Bellevue road rage high speed chases, and the Bellevue Police Department's absence on the road, tells you just where "dealing with reckless drivers" and "setting up John traps at Bellevue incalls," show their respective spots on the Bellevue Police's totem pole.
It's too bad that you criticize one of your own (a fellow male hobbyist) who has FIRST hand experience about how the Bellevue Police operate. He showed you just how high of a priority it is for the Bellevue Police to set up stings, as evidenced by the recent arrest of 16 hobbyists, who fell into the trap at a Bellevue incall last week.
Did YOU know that the MANDATORY John school that you go to, if you're arrested by the Bellevue Police, costs $900, literally? Yeah, you learned something, didn't you, Buckaroo.
It's too bad that you fail to realize, that we make hobbyists are all on the SAME side. Rather than absorbing a learning experience, that can save you $900, you just dismiss it.
If YOU want to get arrested by the Bellevue Police, waste $900 on John school, and have Alisa Bernard talk down to you at John school, suit yourself.[/QUOTE]
Did she go by "Alisa" when she was with GOE? I never book with agencies because it's just asking for trouble.
I'm constantly surprised guys who do.
Agencies keep records, no matter what they tell you. Since these are easy enforcement targets, I'm never surprised when agencies are taken down and clients are exposed. Agencies make nice targets for eager government prosecutors who are looking to help convict on tax evasion, among other things.
[QUOTE=Flyer99;5705913]Oh my that is funny; I got a book 3 get one free from her years ago. She has NOT aged well. By the way, victim Alisa, remember the BBFSCIP was YOUR idea.[/QUOTE]
I was just making a top 3 famous girls I'd like to see do porn or like to fool around with right now.
1) [URL=https://www.instagram.com/gal_gadot]Gal Gadot[/URL]: actress. I would let her break me.
2) [URL=https://www.instagram.com/peytonlist/]Peyton List[/URL]: actress. Tori on Cobra Kai. You just [I]know[/I] she's got to be a very passionate girl in bed!
3) [URL=https://www.google.com/search?q=dora+madison&sxsrf=AOaemvJGmb0z5sa7VdSKwk6W1FLFJwlMpg:1641163729583&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&sqi=2&ved=2ahUKEwjIqvqok5T1AhWMwJQKHYpjBm0Q_AUoAXoECAIQAw&biw=1374&bih=789&dpr=2]Dora Madison[/URL]: actress. She's just right kind of crazy to be [I]extremely[/I] passionate in bed.
Who are your top three you'd like to see in porn or to go to bed with right now?
[QUOTE=TheNovelist;5706688]Did she go by "Alisa" when she was with GOE? I never book with agencies because it's just asking for trouble.
I'm constantly surprised guys who do.
Agencies keep records, no matter what they tell you. Since these are easy enforcement targets, I'm never surprised when agencies are taken down and clients are exposed. Agencies make nice targets for eager government prosecutors who are looking to help convict on tax evasion, among other things.[/QUOTE][URL]https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.seattlepi.com/news/amp/Madams-help-police-and-reap-rewards-1179620.php[/URL]
[URL]https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.seattlepi.com/seattlenews/amp/Ex-boyfriend-blew-whistle-in-vice-case-1131865.php[/URL]
At the Garden of Eden, Alisa went by Naturelle, LOL. I never booked her, but was close to, because she looked like a redhead on that site.
LOL, she must have been pretty good when younger, as we have seven confirmed times that a guy has stuck his dingaling into her.
I read some of those links about her, and doing the math, it seems like Alisa isn't even 40 yet. But, look at how shitty she looks now. She doesn't even look like she's an addict or drugged out.
How did she get so ugly, so quickly, LOL.
I tend to date younger, preferably 32 or younger.
For those of you who date women in the 35 to 45 year old range, on Skip The Games or Escort Alligator, where would Alisa, in these pictures, fall? Is she about average, is she better than average, slightly below average?
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[URL]https://thistlefarms.org/blogs/alisa-bernard/shutdown-of-sex-trafficking-websites-long-overdue[/URL]
[URL]https://www.seattletimes.com/opinion/shutdown-of-sex-trafficking-websites-long-overdue/[/URL]
Check out this article written by Alisa Bernard, where she cheers that TRB was shut down.
This is the same Alisa, who after burning so many bridges within the industry (with Maya of Garden of Eden, and Alex of Elliott Bay, for example), went on to work semi-independently, and worked with one other girl, with Alisa calling herself "Kenzi," in that incarnation of herself. Nobody forced her to advertise herself in TRB. She made SOME money as a result of TRB, even as Kenzi. And now she's cheering it's shutdown. Very hypocritical.
Honestly, I think that as Alisa grew older and less attractive, and younger prettier girls were getting more business than her, she became jealous and resentful.
Even though Rachel of Seattle was older, and past her prime in 2005 or so, she was still sexy and fun. She had me for an incall at her house over in the Eastside. I don't think Rachel ever felt exploited. Well into her 30's, Rachel was her own person, knew what she was doing, and benefited from TRB.
I think that, because of her own actions, the benefits of TRB dried up for Alisa, and she began to get jealous and resentful.
Clearly, Alisa wants to get USG and TNA shut down.
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I want these terms more clearly defined, when we're talking about the context of USG.
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[QUOTE=MakaylaMcDade;5716957][URL]https://thistlefarms.org/blogs/alisa-bernard/shutdown-of-sex-trafficking-websites-long-overdue[/URL]
[URL]https://www.seattletimes.com/opinion/shutdown-of-sex-trafficking-websites-long-overdue/[/URL]
Check out this article written by Alisa Bernard, where she cheers that TRB was shut down.
This is the same Alisa, who after burning so many bridges within the industry (with Maya of Garden of Eden, and Alex of Elliott Bay, for example), went on to work semi-independently, and worked with one other girl, with Alisa calling herself "Kenzi," in that incarnation of herself. Nobody forced her to advertise herself in TRB. She made SOME money as a result of TRB, even as Kenzi. And now she's cheering it's shutdown. Very hypocritical.
Honestly, I think that as Alisa grew older and less attractive, and younger prettier girls were getting more business than her, she became jealous and resentful.
Even though Rachel of Seattle was older, and past her prime in 2005 or so, she was still sexy and fun. She had me for an incall at her house over in the Eastside. I don't think Rachel ever felt exploited. Well into her 30's, Rachel was her own person, knew what she was doing, and benefited from TRB.
I think that, because of her own actions, the benefits of TRB dried up for Alisa, and she began to get jealous and resentful.
Clearly, Alisa wants to get USG and TNA shut down.[/QUOTE]After reading the articles it seems to me that she was more upset that people were talking about services rendered than anything else, equating poor reviews or information shared about servcies offered as violence. I guess I don't get it.
I can understand that being forced in to prostituion by pimps is a bad thing. If someone chooses to do sex work on their own accord, that's really on them. I can understand if someone has regrets, especially if they did it to fund their drug habits. No one was forcing anything that I could glean from the articles.
I understand having regrets, but it seems like the author is projecting their own self-loathing on to other people and blaming them instead of themselves.
[QUOTE=JoelBNelson;5706972]
At the Garden of Eden, Alisa went by Naturelle, LOL. I never booked her, but was close to, because she looked like a redhead on that site.
LOL, she must have been pretty good when younger, as we have seven confirmed times that a guy has stuck his dingaling into her.
I read some of those links about her, and doing the math, it seems like Alisa isn't even 40 yet. But, look at how shitty she looks now. She doesn't even look like she's an addict or drugged out.
How did she get so ugly, so quickly, LOL.[/QUOTE]That's incorrect. The Alisa was not Naturelle. Naturelle's real first name is similar to Alisa and her last name was not Bernard. Naturelle was also in public eye talking about her experiences with addiction and providing but her story was more about turning her life around and doing something positive afterwards.
[QUOTE=AussieFury;5722703]Whatever you got to tell yourself. You can certainly believe it. You cannot guarantee it.
Like I said: nothing wrong with being trans. But a lot of guys are banging man-made pussies. Surgery has come a long way.[/QUOTE]All right, mongers, to each their own: you puts down your hard-earned cash and you hopes you gets what you want.
Buuuut, if you think you can determine birth gender based on a mannerism or a smell or a look or anything else, well, good luck with that: it's hardly foolproof. Unless you're karyotyping, you can't be sure whether the person was [B]A[/B]ssigned [B]F[/B]emale [B]A[/B]t [B]B[/B]irth or [B]A[/B]ssigned [B]M[/B]ale [B]A[/B]t [B]B[/B]irth. And even then, analyzing the pair of sex chromosomes--most people have an XX pair (AFAB) or an XY pair (AMAB) --you're only identifying whether the person was assigned female or male at birth, respectively. From that microscopic analysis, you can't establish their gender identity nor whether they've undergone gender confirmation surgery.
Like Aussie said, "There's nothing wrong with being trans or a trans SW. " Now let's fucking amplify that 100 fold. If you're transgender, you're going to' have a tough time of it. The world is not going to be kind to you. And I'm here to say, hey, I've got your back. I'm a cis male with all of the associated privileges. The least I can do is publicly support you by honoring your pronouns and denouncing transphobic rhetoric.
Oh, and while I'm on my soapbox, let's not put quotes around the words "women" and "men". To be sure, it's convenient shorthand, implying that there are [I]real[/I] women who possess stereotypical feminine qualities and [I]real[/I] men who possess stereotypical masculine qualities, but also suggesting that not all men and women are [I]real[/I] in their gender identity. That kind of reductive narrative does us all a disservice. Let's acknowledge that the world is far more complicated with gradations exceeding our limited vision and desire for binary options.
Finally, before you jump all over my shit, asking whether I think a hypothetical, trans woman sex worker (on hormones, developed breasts, but still rocking a penis) should divulge her status in her ads, my answer is yes. If we're engaging in intercourse, it matters to me. It probably matters to many of her prospective other clients, too.
P.S. Occasionally, there are autosome and chromosome abnormalities. A person can be born with an extra sex chromosome: some people have XXY chromosomes and some have XYY chromosomes. This shit is nuanced and tricky. Let's leave ourselves some room to evolve and develop.
[QUOTE=Original703;5724629]Oh, and while I'm on my soapbox, let's not put quotes around the words "women" and "men". To be sure, it's convenient shorthand, implying that there are [I]real[/I] women who possess stereotypical feminine qualities and [I]real[/I] men who possess stereotypical masculine qualities, but also suggesting that not all men and women are [I]real[/I] in their gender identity. That kind of reductive narrative does us all a disservice. Let's acknowledge that the world is far more complicated with gradations exceeding our limited vision and desire for binary options.[/QUOTE]I usually do not post to threads like these that usually result in a lot of back and forth. But I do use the "women" thing when talking. In fact I did that in my post below. You seem to be judging actions / words of people without understanding. Just because someone puts something in inverted commas it does not in anyway imply that they are opposing or against anything. My mantra in life. Just found your post very unnecessary as this whole discussion "so far" was very civil, no where in any post was it mentioned that was a "bad" or a "good" thing. It simply stated that we as hobbyists would have liked to know that before we slept with them and that these are people who are allegedly hiding that fact. You seem to have taken the conversation in a completely different direction.
I've had almost zero interest in trying to get laid, pretty much throughout this pandemic. I was out all the time, picking-up girls, cruising for girls online, contacting regulars up until about August of 2020. I've noticed that in 2020 the stroll on AA really began to change, local girls were whisked-away and replaced by bands of traveling girls from southern California. Finding girls on sites such as Skip the Games and other sites has been a struggle. I think about going out and cruising or contacting someone and then I easily change my mind. I don't think I've ever been less-motivated to get laid at any point of my life. I used to be out there every weekend, but no more. I couldn't tell you the names of any of the girls out there much less any of their service offerings and rates.
I've replaced these activities by staying home and trading crypto and Forex. I've always been somewhat involved in these markets, but never really did it to the extent that I'm doing it now. So instead of spending money on so-so service. Which is generally what I've seen with the new California girls out there, I'm staying home and making money. Now I get really excited about the prospect of entering a good trade rather than entering a hot chick. My life is much more boring, but I can't be bothered with getting laid these days.
Really odd how my life has suddenly changed. I used to be out there all the time, but now I can't be bothered. I'm not sure if it's my attitude, my age or complacency.
How are the rest of you fairing?
[QUOTE=StreetTroller;5731098]I've had almost zero interest in trying to get laid[/QUOTE]Not me. I still have strong sexual desires. The main problems are 1) not being able to find any reliable women, 2) not being able to find a good woman who will provide most of the services I want (including BBBJ), and 3) the ridiculous donations these women are charging. I can say that I could be attracted to the gals at KAngels (I like Korean women), but I cannot justify paying $450 for the hour, even though I can get all I want. Even if any of those women were independent, the requested donations are just too high.
As it is, it's been over 2 years since I have been to an In Call and had a good woman. And the donation was only $220 for the hour. I sure miss those days.
Honestly, I haven't been out in quite a while now. I think my last date was about a year ago.
I'm not really worried about the pandemic or anything, I'm just so sick of bullshit, and I kind of feel like I got what I was after already. Some of the girls on the stroll will approach me while I'm working sometimes, and I'm polite with them while I decline, but internally I'm just thinking, "How long until you go away?" I look at STG now and then, but I find myself just looking for girls that I've met before and wondering about how they're doing more than thinking about going to see them.
There are a couple of them on STG that I'd like to check out, but I just have the feeling that it would end up being more hassle and wasted money.
I don't know what the deal is. It's not like I want to retire or anything; when it comes down to it, I just don't feel it anymore.
[QUOTE=KitWalker1967;5678256]I dig hanging out with girls who either have or don't have tattoos. That being said, there are several tattoos that are automatic turn-offs for me and I usually decide not to see a girl who has:
1. The gun tattoo that's placed to look like it's stuck in her waistband or in a garter on her thigh.
2. The "claw paws" - usually placed on her cleavage or on her thigh.
3. The crown. Like she's a princess.
Do any of you guys react negatively to chicks who have certain tattoos?[/QUOTE]When I was younger I loved tattoos because of the novelty now I prefer no tattoos because of the rarity.
[QUOTE=StreetTroller;5731098]I've had almost zero interest in trying to get laid, pretty much throughout this pandemic.[/QUOTE]My interest has declined. It's still there, along with occasional pockets of horniness, but not what it used to be. When I think about all of the effort required to set up a pay-to-play or even a civi date, I'm more likely (now) to stay in for the evening, watch porn, masturbate, wash hands, prepare and enjoy a good meal, drink some wine, and stream a movie or show.
[QUOTE=Original703;5724629]Finally, before you jump all over my shit, asking whether I think a hypothetical, trans woman sex worker (on hormones, developed breasts, but still rocking a penis) should divulge her status in her ads, my answer is yes. If we're engaging in intercourse, it matters to me. It probably matters to many of her prospective other clients, too.[/QUOTE]So for the past few weeks, I've been flagging ads on TNA, from very obvious and open, trans providers that advertise in main section and lists themselves as female. I've been flagging them just to see if the MODs reply to me, or ban me, or whatever. So far nothing, so I'm really not sure if they have a policy or even give a shit. So I decided to send a PM to a couple of the providers politely asking them to post in the LGBT section. Holy shit, I got two pages of berating in reply back saying I'm trans phobic, an asshole, and worse.
I decided to just go through and block them all. No dis on those that are looking for that service, I just prefer not to waste my time sifting through trans ads to find what I'm looking for.
[QUOTE=Alas5877;5731997]So for the past few weeks, I've been flagging ads on TNA, from very obvious and open, trans providers that advertise in main section and lists themselves as female. I've been flagging them just to see if the MODs reply to me, or ban me, or whatever. So far nothing, so I'm really not sure if they have a policy or even give a shit. So I decided to send a PM to a couple of the providers politely asking them to post in the LGBT section. Holy shit, I got two pages of berating in reply back saying I'm trans phobic, an asshole, and worse.
I decided to just go through and block them all. No dis on those that are looking for that service, I just prefer not to waste my time sifting through trans ads to find what I'm looking for.[/QUOTE]It makes no difference what clients do, think or say over there. We are wrong. Just wrong, always and forever.
No damned good at all, however correct and / or polite we might be. That place is just SICK.
[QUOTE=Alas5877;5731997]So for the past few weeks, I've been flagging ads on TNA, from very obvious and open, trans providers that advertise in main section and lists themselves as female. I've been flagging them just to see if the MODs reply to me, or ban me, or whatever. So far nothing, so I'm really not sure if they have a policy or even give a shit. So I decided to send a PM to a couple of the providers politely asking them to post in the LGBT section. Holy shit, I got two pages of berating in reply back saying I'm trans phobic, an asshole, and worse.
I decided to just go through and block them all. No dis on those that are looking for that service, I just prefer not to waste my time sifting through trans ads to find what I'm looking for.[/QUOTE]Any ones in particular? There don't seem to be a lot of ads for TS and from what I recall from looking at the ads listing, most of them say TS in the ad title. But I may be wrong. Also, they're not going to do anything and there is no LGBT Section. Did you see a provider that turned out to be trans?
All of that is valid for sure, but one thing to note is that the stroll up here in Seattle has changed quite a bit starting in 2020. A lot of the local girls were moved-off of the stroll because the city was concerned about a massive COVID out-break among the street population. Almost all of them were put on programs and sheltered in some rather nice hotel rooms around King County. I hardly ever see the long-time Aurora regulars out there anymore. That left a vacuum for crews of girls from Las Vegas and Southern California to move-in, and move-in they did. The vast majority of these new girls don't seem to be using hard-drugs. Doesn't seem to be a part of the pimp culture, they want girls who are clean and look nice. Addicts are hard to manage. As a result, I just never really worry about any of these girls planting a bag of fentayl in my vehicle.
One thing a lot of these new girls have told me is that they like working Seattle because the attitude toward sex workers is changing up here. One girl told me that she can barely work on the stroll in Vegas because she's so well-known and undercovers are out there chasing her around all the time. Just not the case up here at present time. During our recent race for city attorney we had a candidate who wanted to de-criminalize sex work. This is one reason why girls like it here. The police union didn't like her and called her an anarchist, and with all of the homelessness and such residents reacted negatively to that approach. So, back to enforcement we'll go, as if that will do anything, LOL. So at some point I think that stings and such will begin to happen again, but who knows when. Since enforcement has been so lax in the past couple of years the girls have all of the guys trained to talk at the window. Once the undercover decoys show-up again that could be disastrous for new guys who learned the stroll since 2020. I guess we'll see what happens.
Regarding car dates, I haven't had a car date in well-over a year. Most of the girls out there now have rooms nearby and prefer to go there instead.
[QUOTE=SfoDavid67;5737148]I would never pick up a SW way too much can go wrong. She could have drugs and plant them in your car if you get stopped that's on you. Car dates are a no no for me as well. If you get caught in the act you just elevated it to lewd public conduct which is much more serious. Could be a set up for a rob as well. Not to mention could be a cop you are talking to through the window. I would imagine there are unmarked police cars around the area so even if it "looks clear". Even if there is "NO DEAL" police could attempt to charge you with "Intent to commit the act of engaging in prostitution". If you have no business to be in the area.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=StreetTroller;5734667]Correct me if i'm wrong, but isn't it also a felony to transport a provider to her dates? Could be as simple as a provider asking, "hey, can you give me a ride to somewhere?" after you both finish your time together. You agree, not knowing why she's going there, and then something happens and suddenly you're on the hook.
I'm trying to remember, but I think this happened to someone on TNA a long time ago if i'm not mistaken. TNA provider asked one of her goofball regulars to bring her to a casino so she could work the floor for dates while he played slots and had free drinks. Then security caught her because she was well-known to them for trolling the floor for dates. They called the police, who took her into a room and she gave-up the guy as her driver pretty much immediately. They let her go because for her it was only a misdemeanor and she bailed, but they came out and got him because driving her there while with the intent to solicit and "work" was a felony. She gave him up to save her own ass and he was nice enough to bring the w***e to the casino in the first place, LOL. I'm not really on TNA much but I do seem to recall that rather dramatic post some time ago. And from what I recall the weirdo was on TNA defending her actions in that post.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=ProperGMan;5735193]Just rumors and hearsay.
Remove posts without evidence.[/QUOTE]This is an open forum. People are free to post as long as they conform to the forum guidelines. Only the mods decide what posts should be removed. If it irks you in anyway, feel free not to scroll to the next one, but trying to censor what is not interesting to you or what meets your criteria of "useful" seems vague and random.
This is a legitimate real rant.
Jason Shinamoto in the KAngels forum, is basically continuously saying that the women should raise their rates.
If he has the means to see multiple women a week, I don't begrudge him. But, for many guys, 300-400 is a lot of money, and each session means that much more to them, and when they feel ripped off, it takes them longer to recover. Maybe Jason can have a bad date for 500, but can afford to book another girl the next day, and get the bad taste out of his mouth. Not all of us can do that.
If he thinks the girls are underpaid, why doesn't he just give them an extra 100, to make up for the other guys? Don't ruin it for other guys, making us pay more.
I wonder if he has some stake in this. Does he get kickback if certain girls make more money? Or even worse, is he truly a clueless simp, who thinks that he's going to get a real life wife or girlfriend, by coddling these girls?
Jason, I would be hard-pressed to find any male on this board, who appreciates you trying to make us pay more for these dates. Keep it to yourself.
In anticipation of my move to Seattle next month, what can you guys recommend for Seattles best Micro Brew beer? Also I will likely live near the SEA airport, best restaurants, sports grills? Pizza? Thanks guys!
[QUOTE=IHateJasons;5738954]This is a legitimate real rant.
Jason Shinamoto in the KAngels forum, is basically continuously saying that the women should raise their rates.
If he has the means to see multiple women a week, I don't begrudge him. But, for many guys, 300-400 is a lot of money, and each session means that much more to them, and when they feel ripped off, it takes them longer to recover. Maybe Jason can have a bad date for 500, but can afford to book another girl the next day, and get the bad taste out of his mouth. Not all of us can do that.
If he thinks the girls are underpaid, why doesn't he just give them an extra 100, to make up for the other guys? Don't ruin it for other guys, making us pay more.
I wonder if he has some stake in this. Does he get kickback if certain girls make more money? Or even worse, is he truly a clueless simp, who thinks that he's going to get a real life wife or girlfriend, by coddling these girls?
Jason, I would be hard-pressed to find any male on this board, who appreciates you trying to make us pay more for these dates. Keep it to yourself.[/QUOTE]+1000! I wonder what Jason's job is? Is he one of those clueless tech types who are making a bunch of money, and don't care how he spends it?
[QUOTE=SfoDavid67;5739808]In anticipation of my move to Seattle next month, what can you guys recommend for Seattles best Micro Brew beer? Also I will likely live near the SEA airport, best restaurants, sports grills? Pizza? Thanks guys![/QUOTE]The fentanyl and heroin is really popular in Seattle.
I used to live and work near SeaTac for about 10 years. I ate at quite a few of the restaurants around that area, and there was no food around there I thought was very good. 13 coins was the only exception but that was back in 2005, but it went down hill after that.
Southcenter mall area in Tukwila just down the hill from SeaTac has quite a few good places. I haven't been out to eat there in several years now so I don't know who is still in business since covid, but I really liked din tai fung Chinese resturant in the mall, albeit a little expensive compared to some places.
Their location in Bellevue used to be more consistent. Back to Tukwila, There used to be a decent Asian buffet across from claim jumper in the old theatre parking lot. There are a number of other good places to eat near the mall.
[QUOTE=GinVermo;5732754]It makes no difference what clients do, think or say over there. We are wrong. Just wrong, always and forever.
No damned good at all, however correct and / or polite we might be. That place is just SICK.[/QUOTE]I strongly agree with this post. That board is basically useless. I mean if you can't get objective info on a provider, and scams are so prevalent there, what good is it? Excessive price gouging providers, with plenty of deceptive ads with every trick in the book, white knight members, mostly positive affirmation reviews.
[QUOTE=Original703;5724629]All right, mongers, to each their own: you puts down your hard-earned cash and you hopes you gets what you want.
Buuuut, if you think you can determine birth gender based on a mannerism or a smell or a look or anything else, well, good luck with that: it's hardly foolproof. Unless you're karyotyping, you can't be sure whether the person was [B]A[/B]ssigned [B]F[/B]emale [B]A[/B]t [B]B[/B]irth or [B]A[/B]ssigned [B]M[/B]ale [B]A[/B]t [B]B[/B]irth. And even then, analyzing the pair of sex chromosomes--most people have an XX pair (AFAB) or an XY pair (AMAB) --you're only identifying whether the person was assigned female or male at birth, respectively. From that microscopic analysis, you can't establish their gender identity nor whether they've undergone gender confirmation surgery.
Like Aussie said, "There's nothing wrong with being trans or a trans SW. " Now let's fucking amplify that 100 fold. If you're transgender, you're going to' have a tough time of it. The world is not going to be kind to you. And I'm here to say, hey, I've got your back. I'm a cis male with all of the associated privileges. The least I can do is publicly support you by honoring your pronouns and denouncing transphobic rhetoric.
Oh, and while I'm on my soapbox, let's not put quotes around the words "women" and "men". To be sure, it's convenient shorthand, implying that there are [I]real[/I] women who possess stereotypical feminine qualities and [I]real[/I] men who possess stereotypical masculine qualities, but also suggesting that not all men and women are [I]real[/I] in their gender identity. That kind of reductive narrative does us all a disservice. Let's acknowledge that the world is far more complicated with gradations exceeding our limited vision and desire for binary options..[/QUOTE]Congratulations, by regurgitating these woke cult talking points you have proved that you are so much more virtuous then everyone else. May you be granted special privileges in the new fascist authoritarian liberal regime so that you can work together to persecute those who don't agree with you. Maybe one day your dream will come true where all men will be required to be pounded to death in the ass publicly for your amusement in the name of tolerance and diversity.
This story is just what I like:
[URL]https://www.yahoo.com/news/73-old-york-grandmother-outsmarted-201133711.html[/URL]
I wonder how we can out smart those women who want to scam you by requiring payment up front via Zelle, CashApp, EBay Gift cards, etc.
[QUOTE=BiggusAssus;5740128]The fentanyl and heroin is really popular in Seattle.
I used to live and work near SeaTac for about 10 years. I ate at quite a few of the restaurants around that area, and there was no food around there I thought was very good. 13 coins was the only exception but that was back in 2005, but it went down hill after that.
Southcenter mall area in Tukwila just down the hill from SeaTac has quite a few good places. I haven't been out to eat there in several years now so I don't know who is still in business since covid, but I really liked din tai fung Chinese resturant in the mall, albeit a little expensive compared to some places.
Their location in Bellevue used to be more consistent. Back to Tukwila, There used to be a decent Asian buffet across from claim jumper in the old theatre parking lot. There are a number of other good places to eat near the mall.[/QUOTE]I will strongly second Din Tai Fung right now, here and now. That's very good cooking and very good food! They are busy as all hell, so if you're in a hurry, just forget it and drive thru somewhere. But don't miss it. They deserve the business--and you won't regret a single thing about it. Proof of vaccination is required to dine in, but carryout is available too.
[QUOTE=BiggusAssus;5740157]Congratulations, by regurgitating these woke cult talking points you have proved that you are so much more virtuous then everyone else. May you be granted special privileges in the new fascist authoritarian liberal regime so that you can work together to persecute those who don't agree with you. Maybe one day your dream will come true where all men will be required to be pounded to death in the ass publicly for your amusement in the name of tolerance and diversity.[/QUOTE]Get over yourself.
Hard to say without knowing more about your tastes, but a couple people have pushed din tai fung on you. The one recommending south center area is a Rex alt, most restaurants in that area tend to be chains, it's pretty meh area for restaurants imo. This is a big generalization but imo the more ethnic the neighborhood the better the food options tend to be, if you prefer authentic mom and pop type joints. There's been a lot of new development in the white center area that is worth checking out.
If you're looking for dumplings there's a much better option called Mama Dough's in an Asian strip mall complex not too far from where you are. Next door to it there's another Asian restaurant called hue ki gy that has some phenomal garlic butter wings. Both worth trying for Asian food.
For sports bars there's a brews and young hotties joint called Twin Peaks near southcenter that has its own microbrews served by scantily clad college girl types. Kinda spendy for a go-to, you'll probably need to discover a neighborhood joint for yourself for that, but peaks is good for an occasional visit or to catch a game.
[QUOTE=SfoDavid67;5739808]In anticipation of my move to Seattle next month, what can you guys recommend for Seattles best Micro Brew beer? Also I will likely live near the SEA airport, best restaurants, sports grills? Pizza? Thanks guys![/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=SfoDavid67;5739808]In anticipation of my move to Seattle next month, what can you guys recommend for Seattles best Micro Brew beer? Also I will likely live near the SEA airport, best restaurants, sports grills? Pizza? Thanks guys![/QUOTE]Welcome to Seattle next month. There is a celebrity chef from this area (Tom Douglas) and he is not the best but not bad either. The good thing that I like is that he is incredibly versatile so he has Italian, Mexican, pacific northwest and many other types of restaurants. I particularly like this place called "Serious Pie" it is a pretty authentic brick oven pizza (have the fennel sausage and peppers pizza) and you will see what I mean. Each pizza is a napolitan style so one pizza per person. They also have pretty good micro-brews. This is in downtown Seattle so about 20 mins from the airport. Every weekday evening they have a happy hour where pitchers of beer and pizza is half price. So if you go there in a group it really makes it convenient you can try out a bunch of different beers and pizza combos.
Just do a search on Tom Douglas and you would see all his restaurants. Like I said he is not the best. But if you come to the PNW you should at least try him out. Hope that helps.
[QUOTE=SfoDavid67;5739808]In anticipation of my move to Seattle next month, what can you guys recommend for Seattles best Micro Brew beer? Also I will likely live near the SEA airport, best restaurants, sports grills? Pizza? Thanks guys![/QUOTE]If you like Caribbean food. Try Bongos. Non Pretentious place with incredible sandwiches. Do a search for "Bongo Cafe in Seattle" and you will find it with no problems. The Desi Sandwich is - "Citrus Braised Pork, caramelized onions, pickled jalapenos, banana peppers, cilantro and house aioli on a toasted saba roll" and it is extremely good. This place is in North Seattle so maybe a 30 min drive (could be more if you do it during rush hour). Hope this helps. Seattle has a decent food scene and I think you will really like it.
[QUOTE=LeeGroinman;5741262]Get over yourself.[/QUOTE]Can string better say th ings less make sens for smp.
There, that mo betta on your lvl.
[QUOTE=CamelToe2000;5741542]south center, most restaurants in that area tend to be chains, it's pretty meh area for restaurants imo.[/QUOTE]A big plus one on that. Unless someone considers chain restaurants as good. I'm not one of them.
Good info on those other restaurants BTW.
Why does the USASG servers go down every fucking night for maintenance? By the time everyone else goes to bed and I can browse freely it's already offline. Every. Single. Night.
Is that really necessary? Could it be once or twice a week instead?