Rants and Stupid shit in Orange County

[QUOTE=DarkRoomDaddy;7176903]I hit a couple of shops yesterday in the drizzle and rain. I noticed that there were no other customers. And then the girls give me the sad tale, that they only had one customer that day, can I upscale the tip. Which I did. I learned a valuable lesson though, and ended up paying more.[/QUOTE]I've done the opposite thing, I use that as an opportunity to lower my donation.

I've gotten up & started putting my clothes on when I've been pushed for higher donation on slow days.

In my experience, the gal is willing to take a reduced rate versus nothing.

Don't like it, I don't return.

But I'm willing to be an asshole.

[QUOTE=SukijoSeiwaka;7188347]I've tracked the sexual markets for years and noticed a phenomena. It appears clients are increasingly paying trans women significantly more than female providers. Example, the average trans escort is charging $200+ while a female of similar rank can only charge $100.00 for QV. What could be the issue? After analyzing behavior on social media, it appears young men are opting for trans due to the low obesity rates and femininity.[/QUOTE]Are you accounting for the butt stuff fee? That might be an important data point you are missing.

I was visiting a girl at a C-Org residential location. We took a shower together and was about ready to get it on, and I was wondering why she hadn't asked me for payment. So, I stopped her and pulled out 2 brand new crisp Benjis. She immediately asks why I'm trying to give her counterfeit money. I walked her into the bathroom where there was more light and told her to examine it. Took some good convincing to change her mind. I'm thinking this kind of stuff must happen frequently enough for some of these girls to question if the bills are real or not.

[QUOTE=BigZhangMang;7189696]Are you accounting for the butt stuff fee? That might be an important data point you are missing.[/QUOTE]Typically, men use trans for CBJ and BBBJ historically. Now they're having full on sex. Anal with trans incall has increased by 135% since 2012. For female escorts, only 30%.

I return back to my mongering activities. . . My junior was enjoying a good ole tittyfuck and HJ combo from a busty old asian lady.

I eventually popped, and my face was splattered by my cum (I hadn't jacked off in like 3 weeks), and the asian lady starting laughing at me.

My eyes starting itching afterwards but eventually went away.

I swear this stuff only happens to me.

Hope your guys days are going well.

So I've been in this hobby about 5 years and there is one hang up with it that I haven't found a good solution for. Hoping others have a simir experience and maybe some input.

I love me some rimming. And I always come clean and prepped for these girls. Massage parlor or at a korg. But sometimes my nerves kick in (normally at korgs less so at AMPs) and I find myself all the sudden having to shit right as I'm parking for the appointment. That or at least getting gassy.

Happen to anyone else?

Also I had the deepest and most thorough rimming of my life at garden spa with Suki. I was going to just let her go for a solid 30 min but after about 10 I really was thinking I was going to fart. That girl was really fucking my ass with her face and tongue. But I had to stop her and move onto balls and cock service

Seems like half the time my enjoyment of a rim sesh is ruined by focusing on not farting. LOL.

[QUOTE=Opi7001;7207841]So I've been in this hobby about 5 years and there is one hang up with it that I haven't found a good solution for. Hoping others have a simir experience and maybe some input.

I love me some rimming. And I always come clean and prepped for these girls. Massage parlor or at a korg. But sometimes my nerves kick in (normally at korgs less so at AMPs) and I find myself all the sudden having to shit right as I'm parking for the appointment. That or at least getting gassy.

Happen to anyone else?

Also I had the deepest and most thorough rimming of my life at garden spa with Suki. I was going to just let her go for a solid 30 min but after about 10 I really was thinking I was going to fart. That girl was really fucking my ass with her face and tongue. But I had to stop her and move onto balls and cock service

Seems like half the time my enjoyment of a rim sesh is ruined by focusing on not farting. LOL.[/QUOTE]Was your post moved here? Why? Yes, that's Suki. When I asked her name she was like talking to herself softly, thinking that I am not going to ask for her again. True, because the other one was beautiful. I was waiting I don't know who. Suki seems to be asking, taking orders from others to service me so I don't have to wait for 15 min. I waited 5. She is young enough so I DFKed her. She was willing but didn't keep it for long. And I know why. Very thorough rimming. I actually thought of DFK her after that, which excited me. But after I came, she took off the condom and hang on to my cock with her mouth. It was better than cuddling and DFK so I let her. Until I had to stop her because I had no more ammunition.

[QUOTE=JamesD2004;7208447]Was your post moved here? Why? Yes, that's Suki. When I asked her name she was like talking to herself softly, thinking that I am not going to ask for her again. True, because the other one was beautiful. I was waiting I don't know who. Suki seems to be asking, taking orders from others to service me so I don't have to wait for 15 min. I waited 5. She is young enough so I DFKed her. She was willing but didn't keep it for long. And I know why. Very thorough rimming. I actually thought of DFK her after that, which excited me. But after I came, she took off the condom and hang on to my cock with her mouth. It was better than cuddling and DFK so I let her. Until I had to stop her because I had no more ammunition.[/QUOTE]I don't think it did. Pretty sure I posted it here. I intended to anyhow. Seems a fitting place.

C org location near Yale and walnut was raided. About 15 Asians and 2 Caucasian Johns were caught according to Reddit.

Exact location on Lofty St. Be careful out there.

[QUOTE=CryMoarHoar;7210969]C org location near Yale and walnut was raided. About 15 Asians and 2 Caucasian Johns were caught according to Reddit. Exact location on Lofty St. Be careful out there.[/QUOTE]If 15 people were indeed busted in a supposed prostitution raid, including two johns, wouldn't one assume it to be all over the news? Here's the most salient Reddit comment on the post: "If it's true, it would definitely be on the news and most certainly on Irvine pd's social". And yet it's not.

Anything is possible, of course, but I suggest that if the paranoia pot is stirred, follow it up with legit links to local news that verify the incursions.

[QUOTE=Sticker;7211525]If 15 people were indeed busted in a supposed prostitution raid, including two johns, wouldn't one assume it to be all over the news? Here's the most salient Reddit comment on the post: "If it's true, it would definitely be on the news and most certainly on Irvine pd's social". And yet it's not.

Anything is possible, of course, but I suggest that if the paranoia pot is stirred, follow it up with legit links to local news that verify the incursions.[/QUOTE]I can't believe 15 Asians, the girls and their bookers, would all be together in one house. That said, a Google search turned up an arrest in the Cypress Park area about a mile away from Lofty back last October. They arrested two guys and offered "assistance" to three "victims. " If the news outlets' stories are to be believed, these guys put "for a good time" fliers on neighbors' cars. Again, not the easiest thing to believe.

Lit Her Up.

[QUOTE=LiftHerUp;7211638]I can't believe 15 Asians, the girls and their bookers, would all be together in one house. That said, a Google search turned up an arrest in the Cypress Park area about a mile away from Lofty back last October. They arrested two guys and offered "assistance" to three "victims. " If the news outlets' stories are to be believed, these guys put "for a good time" fliers on neighbors' cars. Again, not the easiest thing to believe.

Lit Her Up.[/QUOTE]I'm not sure about the 15 people in the house, but the raid part of the story seems to be true because the neighbor posted the search warrant that he found inside the house a day later. The search warrant had permission to confiscate all computers, phones, video cams, bed sheets, soiled clothing, safes, all cash, sex toys, and pretty much anything else related to the crime.

[QUOTE=LiftHerUp;7211638]I can't believe 15 Asians, the girls and their bookers, would all be together in one house.[/QUOTE]It's a corg. They totally can have a dozen plus guys. There are no bookers, this is not a korg. This is a public forum so that's all I'll say.

I know it's hard to visualize so I'll retell a story from long ago. In Japan I went to korgs 20 years ago and it was wild. Hanging around with kgirls and picking the ones we want. No B+S. About 5 years later the market changed and kgirls started doing delivery health, then it took off and jgirls joined in. A new era. Then korgs started popping up in many other countries and I no longer had to go to Japan for them. For a long time, there were more korgs in Japan than any other country outside of Korea. But the system was kind of like a corg, out of a house. All in Shin Okubo (ktown of Tokyo).

Every 5-10 years the market seems to change in some major way. I still miss the korg parties in Japan, that system was the best and I was young enough to go 3 rounds each visit.

Within the last two years, I've visited four different C org places; two single-story houses and two condos (Santa Ana and Irvine, respectively). At each one, just two girls and one Chinese guy answering the door and directing me to the bedroom. The Chinese woman who arranged things might not be considered a booker in the same way that Korg bookers are, but only because she would also suggest certain AMPs in OC where I assume she got a cut.

[QUOTE=Sticker;7212735]Within the last two years, I've visited four different C org places; two single-story houses and two condos (Santa Ana and Irvine, respectively). At each one, just two girls and one Chinese guy answering the door and directing me to the bedroom. The Chinese woman who arranged things might not be considered a booker in the same way that Korg bookers are, but only because she would also suggest certain AMPs in OC where I assume she got a cut.[/QUOTE]There's a few types of C-Orgs out there and I'll try to explain it in a way that also doesn't give out too much info.

Tier 1) The independent ones that sometimes pop up on BP and other similar sites. This could be just a spot where someone is looking to make money, knows a few girls and decides to get into the business. There's newer independent ones and there are more established ones that have been around for a while.

Tier 2) The mid tier ones that are the most popular and usually consist of either an existing network or a combination of a network and established individual ones. The network and individual ones pay these bookers a fee for every client they send over. Locations are added and removed on a regular basis. The network that these bookers advertise seems to be part of a bigger nationwide network that also include hotel locations.

Tier 3) The higher mid tier ones that are usually a little more expensive than tier 2. Some of these locations are sometimes included in tier 2 as the slightly more expensive "VIP" locations.

Tier 4) Higher tier most expensive. This is where the girls are usually most expensive and for good reason.

2, 3, 4 all have bookers that have varying degrees of screening you and 1 host at the location to greet and verify you. I would say that most bookers aren't at the location and can even be outside of the state. Also, some girls in tier 2 and 3 sometimes rotate in and out of massage spas.

The most recent one that got raided definitely was just a tier 1 that appears to not been well organized. Organized ones will usually have 2 girls and 1 host. There's good reason for that. Most mongers wouldn't be comfortable if they see a lot of people in the house (15 people?) and there's a strong likelihood either a monger or neighbor would tip off the cops if they saw something like that.

[QUOTE=HoDough;7212103]I'm not sure about the 15 people in the house, but the raid part of the story seems to be true because the neighbor posted the search warrant that he found inside the house a day later. The search warrant had permission to confiscate all computers, phones, video cams, bed sheets, soiled clothing, safes, all cash, sex toys, and pretty much anything else related to the crime.[/QUOTE]The Reddit, claims about 15 Asians and 2 Caucasians. So, the 15 isn't an exact number.

Too bad, some cities are trading in their Police Blotter and instead offering a crime map instead. By comparison, very generic and not all that useful for seeing details of what is going on in the community.

[QUOTE=OcAmper;7213368]The Reddit, claims about 15 Asians and 2 Caucasians. So, the 15 isn't an exact number.

Too bad, some cities are trading in their Police Blotter and instead offering a crime map instead. By comparison, very generic and not all that useful for seeing details of what is going on in the community.[/QUOTE]The Police report seems to differ wildly from the citizen report. This post seems to imply or mentions only 5 people.

FYI, vBulletin seems to take exception with the URL below, could be the the brackets.

"[URL]https://www.facebook.com/IrvinePD/posts/pfbid0gg2uUJFSi9jU5m4AGCJTnYJgff4jnwvEQTjFGUAiBmQxixWJaXfR3afsiUmiUnjCl?__cft__{tagreplacement1}[/URL].

Don't need those people coming over here, but the link to it is https://www.reddit.com/r/irvine/comments/1j0d2z6/brothel_raid_again_episode_2/ for anyone interested in LE paperwork that may have come from it.

mods, i tried using a URL shortener to keep the other domain from being indexed if someone searched for it and found this, but seems thats not allowed here. please edit if needed.

LE moves pretty quick, warrant signed at 145X, inventory of premises, within 3 hours and 10 minutes, they conducted the search and documented the inventory.

A little surprised, , it moves that quickly.

Who knows, maybe they were staged around the corner, had judge sign and hit it immediately.

[QUOTE=RealSexyPanda;7216770]Don't need those people coming over here, but the link to it is https://www.reddit.com/r/irvine/comments/1j0d2z6/brothel_raid_again_episode_2/ for anyone interested in LE paperwork that may have come from it.

mods, i tried using a URL shortener to keep the other domain from being indexed if someone searched for it and found this, but seems thats not allowed here. please edit if needed.[/QUOTE]Notice that on this search warrant inventory there was cash in several locations, no condoms or any other sexual paraphernalia for that matter.

Lift Her Up.

[QUOTE=OcAmper;7215985]The Police report seems to differ wildly from the citizen report. This post seems to imply or mentions only 5 people.

FYI, vBulletin seems to take exception with the URL below, could be the the brackets.[/QUOTE]Yeah, it wasn't 15 people as originally reported by a Redditor. According to news outlets, it was 4 girls and 1 guy (host). There was a picture of at least 1 White guy handcuffed on the curb, so probably at least 1 customer.

[QUOTE=RealSexyPanda;7216770]Don't need those people coming over here, but the link to it is https://www.reddit.com/r/irvine/comments/1j0d2z6/brothel_raid_again_episode_2/ for anyone interested in LE paperwork that may have come from it.

mods, i tried using a URL shortener to keep the other domain from being indexed if someone searched for it and found this, but seems thats not allowed here. please edit if needed.[/QUOTE]Why would you do this in Irvine? That's like doing it in Arcadia. There's so many places happy to turn a blind eye as long you're buying or ltr a house, support the local economy, etc.

More Info.

[QUOTE=SukijoSeiwaka;7217004]Why would you do this in Irvine? That's like doing it in Arcadia. There's so many places happy to turn a blind eye as long you're buying or ltr a house, support the local economy, etc.[/QUOTE]Irvine and Arcadia have a lot of men with disposable income. Arcadia, in particular have wealthy neighborhoods where some homes are in the $10 mil range. When one gets raided, there's always another one that takes its place. I would definitely stay away from Irvine. A lot of people are now aware and won't hesitate to report if they see anything suspicious.

Time to put this paranoiac prostitute procuring thread to rest, pups.

[QUOTE=HoDough;7217591]Irvine and Arcadia have a lot of men with disposable income. Arcadia, in particular have wealthy neighborhoods where some homes are in the $10 mil range. When one gets raided, there's always another one that takes its place. I would definitely stay away from Irvine. A lot of people are now aware and won't hesitate to report if they see anything suspicious.[/QUOTE]They probably bought the house for $500 k and now its worth $10 M. There are some HE shops in Arcadia so not sure why someone would risk a $10 M house for a scheme like this.

[QUOTE=DarkRoomDaddy;7218391]They probably bought the house for $500 k and now its worth $10 M. There are some HE shops in Arcadia so not sure why someone would risk a $10 M house for a scheme like this.[/QUOTE]I wish $500 k homes went up in value that way. I lot of us would be multi-millionaires by now. Some of these homes are newly built. One that just went on the market is about 12 k sq ft and $12.8 Mil. And I'm not referring to people offering services from these houses. Nobody is stupid enough to risk their mansion for this. I'm referring to the wealthy clientele in the area with lots of extra income to spend. Most Corgs, if they're smart, will rent the property. When the heat gets turned on. E. g, They start noticing unmarked vehicles patrolling, neighbors start complaining, cop shows up at the door due to a complaint, or a monger threatens to report them, they could just easily stop business and rent elsewhere.

[QUOTE=SukijoSeiwaka;7217004]Why would you do this in Irvine? That's like doing it in Arcadia. There's so many places happy to turn a blind eye as long you're buying or ltr a house, support the local economy, etc.[/QUOTE]Because Irvine has a very big Chinese population same with Arcadia.

A lot of Chinese illegals live in Irvine as well and shady warehouses.

[QUOTE=HapaBoy86;7218857]Because Irvine has a very big Chinese population same with Arcadia.

A lot of Chinese illegals live in Irvine as well and shady warehouses.[/QUOTE]From my experience, the FOB Chinese go to San Gabriel and Alhambra. Then as they get some money they go to Hacienda Heights or Roland Heights. Then with more money they go to Chino Hills, Walnut, Irvine, or Arcadia. I sincerely doubt you will find much of our kind of fun in Irvine.

On the other hand, the slightly run down areas like Westminster, Garden Grove, Santa Ana, maybe Tustin, Hacienda Heights.

It was not that long ago that San Gabriel was the Chinese Massage Mecca. You could get an hour of good massage for $15 in an open room or $20 in a closed room. Sadly the city clamped down and all gone. And that's really what drives it. The police and / or city leaders running them out of town. They don't have to do busts and catch a girl with a dick in her mouth. They just don't like the look of masage parlours and assume the worst. So they regulate them out of business to clean up the good image of their city.

Lucky for us, Westminster and Garden Grove have no such pride.

[QUOTE=HoDough;7218768]I wish $500 k homes went up in value that way. I lot of us would be multi-millionaires by now. Some of these homes are newly built. One that just went on the market is about 12 k sq ft and $12.8 Mil. And I'm not referring to people offering services from these houses. Nobody is stupid enough to risk their mansion for this. I'm referring to the wealthy clientele in the area with lots of extra income to spend. Most Corgs, if they're smart, will rent the property. When the heat gets turned on. E. g, They start noticing unmarked vehicles patrolling, neighbors start complaining, cop shows up at the door due to a complaint, or a monger threatens to report them, they could just easily stop business and rent elsewhere.[/QUOTE]I think a lot of houses doubled just in the past 3 years. I knew some people who bought in Arcadia. Maybe 2009 for $1. 2 M. I am not sure if its $12 M now but it was a nice house with a pool. Real estate does not go up the same in all areas. Hot areas might go up 100% while crap areas might go up 10%.

But all of this is somewhat off topic. It does not take that much money to do a little hobby work, and we all have cars and go to where the girls are.

Here's the start of the lead story in yesterday's Daily Pilot.

An application or a massage permit by a local spa rubbed the La Palma City Council the wrong way. After a code enforcement inspection sent Starlight Day Spa employees and customers exiting out the back door "with haste" lat year, city officials sent the owner an Aug. 19 cease and desist letter alleging that he illegally operated a massage business. On Tuesday City Council members pressed Tom Scott, Starlight Day Spa's owner, during a public hearing with evidence in hand that the spa ran suggestive massage ads on websites like Craigslist and RubMaps.

Beyond what I read, I don't know anything about it. All this just FYI.

LIft Her Up.

[QUOTE=DarkRoomDaddy;7219945]Lucky for us, Westminster and Garden Grove have no such pride.[/QUOTE]My half Viet atf told me that the downtown houses are more expensive than the suburbs. (once upon a time) Asians are all business-oriented people who like to live near their businesses. She dug gold and lives by the beach not far from there.

[QUOTE=DarkRoomDaddy;7219950]I think a lot of houses doubled just in the past 3 years. I knew some people who bought in Arcadia. Maybe 2009 for $1. 2 M. I am not sure if its $12 M now but it was a nice house with a pool. Real estate does not go up the same in all areas. Hot areas might go up 100% while crap areas might go up 10%.

But all of this is somewhat off topic. It does not take that much money to do a little hobby work, and we all have cars and go to where the girls are.[/QUOTE]Homes doubling in the last 3 years is probably rare. If some did, I'd like to see. Because I'm investing in the wrong area. I own a few properties in the Irvine and Chino Hills area. Due to inflation and housing shortage in the last 3 years, I think 40% would be average. 60% would be really good. And anyone who bought during the 2009 recession and held on to now definitely made a lot of $$ I have a friend who bought 4 homes in the High desert area during that time. Those homes are now worth 2. 5-3. 5 x.

[QUOTE=DarkRoomDaddy;7219945] I sincerely doubt you will find much of our kind of fun in Irvine.

[/QUOTE]Yes, you can find some in the China only websites, China only customers (high end girls. You must speak China only), they use airbnb houses for 4-5 days than they move to another one.

Next to spectrum several China orgs operate out of.

[QUOTE=HapaBoy86;7221999]Yes, you can find some in the China only websites, China only customers (high end girls. You must speak China only), they use airbnb houses for 4-5 days than they move to another one. Next to spectrum several China orgs operate out of.[/QUOTE]There's availability for non-Chinese guys in Irvine, too; sometimes at the same condos as the ones the Korgs use by JWA. But I haven't visited one of them in a couple months, because I prefer the korg girls and MOs. With the Chinese ones, it's been a dude (host) who answers, and then there is one girl in each of the two bedrooms. Sometimes I had prearranged a particular girl, and sometimes I elected to pick once I was there. Never had a girl at one of these places that was better than a 7/10 in looks and service and no BBFS option. Total cost about the same as Garden or OA spas.

FYI. The Lake Forest city council decided not to renew permits for Oasis Relax and another massage parlor in Lake Forest due to prostitution investigations by the OCSD. Hope this isn't a trend. Starts at about the 30-min. , mark. [URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eb5kK02YpxI[/URL].

[QUOTE=YellowFinTuna;7222406]FYI. The Lake Forest city council decided not to renew permits for Oasis Relax and another massage parlor in Lake Forest due to prostitution investigations by the OCSD. Hope this isn't a trend. Starts at about the 30-min. , mark. [URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eb5kK02YpxI[/URL].[/QUOTE]I was at the Asia Spa a few weeks ago at night, which is around the corner from where Oasis is / was located. I went in, but walked out shortly after. When I walked out, I noticed a police SUV parked and the cop was staring at me. It looked like she was monitoring who was going in and out. I got in my car and the cop pulls in back of me and blocked me for a good 30 seconds or so before she went on her way. Not sure what it was about. Maybe she was trying to intimidate me?

[QUOTE=YellowFinTuna;7222406]FYI. The Lake Forest city council decided not to renew permits for Oasis Relax and another massage parlor in Lake Forest due to prostitution investigations by the OCSD. Hope this isn't a trend. Starts at about the 30-min. , mark. [URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eb5kK02YpxI[/URL].[/QUOTE]From watching the Youtube, it gives you a better perspective on how Lake Forest regularly conduct undercover operations at the spas in the city. It's probably similar how other cities do it. A massage spa in Laguna Hills has a poster up in the rooms that states that the police are allowed to conduct unannounced inspections, so I'm assuming this is a city wide policy.

Not sure if this has been posted, but they investigated a couple dozen spas and shut down 5 of them in Ventura county in Jan, involving 52 providers.

[URL]https://keyt.com/news/ventura-county/2025/02/04/ventura-county-human-trafficking-task-force-shuts-down-five-illicit-massage-businesses-and-connects-52-workers-to-victim-resources-in-january/[/URL]

[QUOTE=HoDough;7222470]I was at the Asia Spa a few weeks ago at night, which is around the corner from where Oasis is / was located. I went in, but walked out shortly after. When I walked out, I noticed a police SUV parked and the cop was staring at me. It looked like she was monitoring who was going in and out. I got in my car and the cop pulls in back of me and blocked me for a good 30 seconds or so before she went on her way. Not sure what it was about. Maybe she was trying to intimidate me?[/QUOTE]It seems that American women look down their nose at MP as if a man's sexuality or sexual needs were disgusting. In Asia, Latin America, and Southern Europe (Spain, Italy, France), men are allowed to be men. Not fit into the narrow constraints of what American women want us to be.

[QUOTE=DarkRoomDaddy;7226292]It seems that American women look down their nose at MP as if a man's sexuality or sexual needs were disgusting. In Asia, Latin America, and Southern Europe (Spain, Italy, France), men are allowed to be men. Not fit into the narrow constraints of what American women want us to be.[/QUOTE]Yes. Also, I think many American women look down on women who really enjoy sex. I wish I knew how to change all this but I don't. I guess all I can do as an individual is when a woman really likes sex and really wants to make a man happy, I give her sincere praise and try to lift up the entirety of her life.

Lift Her Up.