Seeking Arrangement and Other Dating Site Reviews

[QUOTE=MyHobby;4212540]Apparently just got out of an 8 month stint in rehab last weekend. She said she's walked out a couple times so maybe she's been at it on her "vacations". Got work from another on this site that she might have been active a couple years ago.[/QUOTE]Yes, that's the same Asian girl I did a few times over a year ago when CL was still around. Oral skills was a little lacking, but def. Had a great little bod. Very nice size tits for a small Asian girl, and that coochie was always tight and wet. 100 back then with bareback and CIP.

[QUOTE=TopGun9;4212726]Yes, that's the same Asian girl I did a few times over a year ago when CL was still around. Oral skills was a little lacking, but def. Had a great little bod. Very nice size tits for a small Asian girl, and that coochie was always tight and wet. 100 back then with bareback and CIP.[/QUOTE]Well, you can scratch this one. I reached her today.

She goes by the name Abby want wants 500, no longer 100.

BMD.

[QUOTE=BigMacDaddy;4212789]Well, you can scratch this one. I reached her today.

She goes by the name Abby want wants 500, no longer 100.

BMD.[/QUOTE]Not surprised, they smarten up fast.

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I really didn't expect it. She seemed genuine, and when I followed her to the notel, she didn't seem evasive at all. You are luckier than me obviously. Not sure what you were paying, but we'd settled at 170 on WYP. Also, it looks like she's added her profile to SA calling herself Stephaniexo12. The pic she's using is the same one she'd texted me when she was setting up to rip me off on WYP.

[QUOTE=Troutman;4205486]I had several very fulfilling meetings with Erica at that particular Inn, and she was extremely enthusiastic. She started asking for more and more money between meetings, though, so I had to drop her. Three inputs! Great body! Total mercenary![/QUOTE]

Posting this in Hartford since Groton doesn't have an Date Site category.

I met Sammy in Groton earlier this year. She's the real deal, but not a real ball of fire. In the negotiations, I probably overdid it at 200, but she was able to host which kept the overall cost down. She didn't have a car when we met, so I took her out for a drink first, then back to her place. She hosts in the extended stay where she lives, and it's a bit of a mess. She also has a cat, so if you're allergic to them, consider yourself warned.

The services included BBBJCIM (no swallow) and BBFS. She doesn't seem to get into it though (at least not with me), so the performance is lackluster. No obvious signs of using or other issues, she just seems like a sincere girl who's down on her luck. Not a repeat for me, but YMMV.

MM (not to be confused with MasterMan!

[QUOTE=MrMancuso;4213762]I really didn't expect it. She seemed genuine, and when I followed her to the notel, she didn't seem evasive at all. You are luckier than me obviously. Not sure what you were paying, but we'd settled at 170 on WYP. Also, it looks like she's added her profile to SA calling herself Stephaniexo12. The pic she's using is the same one she'd texted me when she was setting up to rip me off on WYP.[/QUOTE]I contacted Stephaniexo12 on SA (east haven) a few days ago, no incall and she quoted "350-450. " So, I think to myself, well which is it? I didn't complain or negotiate. I just put her off until next week.

Of course, I'm not going to see her at that rate and certainly not if she has ripoff artist in her blood. What a waste. Next!

BMD.

Anyone else using SB?

I have found the quality to have gone way down. Plus so many girls message once then vanish. Not sure if this is just the site trying get guys to waste tokens.

SA has always been better, but the monthly fee is steep.

[QUOTE=RonOne;4212483]That could be the 20's Asian I was looking for 2 weeks ago. Hope the price stays reasonable. Would appreciate more info by PM if you are willing.[/QUOTE]Easy to contact Friendly. Not your typical hardcore. Did have a drug problem Vague on price an services. Denies ever on CL or ever did it before. She may be a short term opportunity.

Staying in Manchester for a few days. She sits on SA all day long looking to get lucky.

[QUOTE=DadBod78;4214587]Anyone else using SB?

I have found the quality to have gone way down. Plus so many girls message once then vanish. Not sure if this is just the site trying get guys to waste tokens.

SA has always been better, but the monthly fee is steep.[/QUOTE]Seems like all the girls there are just fakes. Even the ones that are verified don't seem to respond. I might give it another go at some point, but for now, I am using my cash in more fruitful ways.

[QUOTE=XxMarkXx;4215695]Seems like all the girls there are just fakes. Even the ones that are verified don't seem to respond. I might give it another go at some point, but for now, I am using my cash in more fruitful ways.[/QUOTE]I spend 200 credits and all I got was a single girl wanting to meet for 200. She made it clear it was only to meet. Nothing else. Of course I politely declined.

MOst of the girls messaged me and then ghosted. Makes you wonder.

[QUOTE=XxMarkXx;4215695]Seems like all the girls there are just fakes. Even the ones that are verified don't seem to respond. I might give it another go at some point, but for now, I am using my cash in more fruitful ways.[/QUOTE]What do you say to them when you try to contact them.

Just curious if anyone used prepaid cards for SA membership and if so which ones work.

[QUOTE=BoredinCT12;4216297]Just curious if anyone used prepaid cards for SA membership and if so which ones work.[/QUOTE]I've used others as well, but my local store sells Vanilla and they have worked well.

[QUOTE=BoredinCT12;4216297]Just curious if anyone used prepaid cards for SA membership and if so which ones work.[/QUOTE]I was able to run a Vanilla Visa Gift card for my first month. My account expired a week ago and I haven't tried it again.

[QUOTE=BoredinCT12;4216297]Just curious if anyone used prepaid cards for SA membership and if so which ones work.[/QUOTE]I've used prepaid MC and Visa. Both work fine.

If the transaction fails, call the number on the back of the card to register it on their automated system, then try joining SA again. It should go through.

BMD.

[QUOTE=BigBoss203;4216295]What do you say to them when you try to contact them.[/QUOTE]Same approach as I use on SA. I find something in their profile that attracts me and make a positive comment or say that we have a common interest and offer something about me. I am not the kind of guy that writes "hey baby" and wonders why I get no responses.

[QUOTE=DozerDude;4216323]I was able to run a Vanilla Visa Gift card for my first month. My account expired a week ago and I haven't tried it again.[/QUOTE]I've never paid. A lot of the profile names are the same as their twitter / instagram, etc handles /. I'll then contact them from my fake fb account. Or they use the same pics on pof, and I find them there. In my case, only the black girls are dtf, the white girls have been a waste of $ and time.

[QUOTE=XxMarkXx;4216819]Same approach as I use on SA. I find something in their profile that attracts me and make a positive comment or say that we have a common interest and offer something about me. I am not the kind of guy that writes "hey baby" and wonders why I get no responses.[/QUOTE]I agree SB is a scam I have messaged many and never gotten a response. Total waste of $.

I didn't even know this subforum existed. I posted this in the Danbury escort forum because didn't know this existed. Anyway.

I've been a member here for a long time and read on and off but rarely post. I don't post much because I maybe partake in this fun 2-3-4 times a year. Too busy, too hard to hide the cash and many other reasons. Anyway, I've been down on the AMPs, my usual choice, and the talent level of girls on STG has really dropped. So I've gone to other sites like sugar daddy sites to see if I can have some luck. I have never used those sites before but so far it's pretty good. I've met 5 different girls in their early 20's and one who is 19 and we have been chatting. With one we worked out the details and everything and were ready to meet but then she started getting real weird and told me some stuff I wasn't comfortable with so I cancelled that. I'm also speaking with a 19 year old who gave me her facebook page and we chat through messanger there. She is great but I don't think she is ready to take the plunge. May take some time to cultivate that relationship. Another one can only meet between 9-3 on weekdays and that's tough for me but an option. The last is the most interesting. I've had all verify themselves through either their facebook pages or photos doing certain things.

The last is 21 years and definitely very cute. Probably the second nicest looking one of the 5. She sent me a few verification photos and everything seems good but I'm still nervous about meeting her. I think I'm just being a p**sy but I'm worried that it might be some sort of setup. I don't worry much when I go to AMPs and when I see independents I usually, if not always have info, on them or have seen them before. I am meeting her next Wednesday so I have a whole week to ponder the situation.

So, am I just being a nervous p**sy? Are verification photos good enough to know it's not LE? Any advice would help! Think I'm just having first time jitters. Thanks!

[QUOTE=Rich196;4217278]I agree SB is a scam I have messaged many and never gotten a response. Total waste of $.[/QUOTE]I posted a long post asking for some advice but I'm not sure if it's waiting admin or didn't go through because it asked me to login when I tried to post and then nothing happened. I will wait and then try again if it doesn't show up.

I have actually had pretty good luck with SB. Yes, there are a lot of what I think are fake accounts and a lot of ghosting. I think there are a lot of girls who sign up just to see what it's all about with no intention of meeting, send a bunch of messages and then the responses scare them off and they don't return. I've actually talked a good bit with one young girl who was on there doing a bit of research for a psychology paper for college but said it was intriguing to her. I was able to find her on the college website because of the detail she gave me and the fact that she was on an athletic team there.

I blew through the first set of credits just responding to everything. Now I am VERY selective with who I respond to. I never spend credits to see their additional photos and I have a canned message I send that seems to get a response from most of them even if it's not a positive response wanting to chat about meeting. My other post has details on the girls I've been chatting with so hopefully that goes through. If not, I'll follow up with more info.

Also, the only reason I am using SB instead of SA is that I can't do a monthly payment. I can however buy credits every so often and not have to worry about my SO asking me what it was for.

Thanks for reading.

[QUOTE=Rich196;4217278]I agree SB is a scam I have messaged many and never gotten a response. Total waste of $.[/QUOTE]What site is SB?

[QUOTE=TSmithers24;4217604]I didn't even know this subforum existed. I posted this in the Danbury escort forum because didn't know this existed. Anyway.

I've been a member here for a long time and read on and off but rarely post. I don't post much because I maybe partake in this fun 2-3-4 times a year. Too busy, too hard to hide the cash and many other reasons. Anyway, I've been down on the AMPs, my usual choice, and the talent level of girls on STG has really dropped. So I've gone to other sites like sugar daddy sites to see if I can have some luck. I have never used those sites before but so far it's pretty good. I've met 5 different girls in their early 20's and one who is 19 and we have been chatting. With one we worked out the details and everything and were ready to meet but then she started getting real weird and told me some stuff I wasn't comfortable with so I cancelled that. I'm also speaking with a 19 year old who gave me her facebook page and we chat through messanger there. She is great but I don't think she is ready to take the plunge. May take some time to cultivate that relationship. Another one can only meet between 9-3 on weekdays and that's tough for me but an option. The last is the most interesting. I've had all verify themselves through either their facebook pages or photos doing certain things.

The last is 21 years and definitely very cute. Probably the second nicest looking one of the 5. She sent me a few verification photos and everything seems good but I'm still nervous about meeting her. I think I'm just being a p**sy but I'm worried that it might be some sort of setup. I don't worry much when I go to AMPs and when I see independents I usually, if not always have info, on them or have seen them before. I am meeting her next Wednesday so I have a whole week to ponder the situation.

So, am I just being a nervous p**sy? Are verification photos good enough to know it's not LE? Any advice would help! Think I'm just having first time jitters. Thanks![/QUOTE]Give it a try and meet up. You don't need to worry much at all (IMO) about an LE setup on a site like that. You may run into the occasional scammer but they tend to be looking for money up front and you can see them a mile away. You might need to go though a meet and greet (dinner or drinks) with some of them before they are comfortable to hop in the sack. Many of them won't proceed right to the fuck chamber, but of course there are exceptions. In that case they might not actually be sugar babies but more UTR or professional.

[QUOTE=MyHobby;4217937]What site is SB?[/QUOTE]Secret Benefits. It uses a credits system to message instead of monthly payments. You buy 100 or 200 or more credits and then it takes 10 credits to message a girl or 10 credits to unlock their message to you. Once unlocked you can chat openly with them for no credits fee but most of the ones that are serious end up going through text messages or some other messenger service like facebook. I have a burner facebook account for that. It's easy to run through the credits though because you will get messages or want to message girls. At first I was messaging them which is such a crap shoot. Instead now I favorite their profile and see if they favorite me back or they send me a message. Also, what is written in their profile will say a lot about whether they are real or not and whether there is a shot it's more than just "send me money". Some come out and just say, no physical relationship in their profile. I have about 15 messages that I have not unlocked because I think they are scam accounts and don't want to spend the credits. But there are real girls there. Just have to find them.

[QUOTE=MyHobby;4217942]Give it a try and meet up. You don't need to worry much at all (IMO) about an LE setup on a site like that. You may run into the occasional scammer but they tend to be looking for money up front and you can see them a mile away. You might need to go though a meet and greet (dinner or drinks) with some of them before they are comfortable to hop in the sack. Many of them won't proceed right to the fuck chamber, but of course there are exceptions. In that case they might not actually be sugar babies but more UTR or professional.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the advice. I'm meeting her next Wednesday. Attractive and 21. We are meeting for two hours. I'll let you guys know how it goes since I now know this sub-forum exists.

I've had two girls just ask me for money for nudes. I said no. Had one that when I asked for a verification photo she stopped texting, total scammer. Had one who wanted 4 bills just to take her out to dinner and twice that for anything else and she wasn't even that hot. I said no. We will see. I'm having fun with it though.

Not comprehensive even but just like a run down of the pros / cons of each?

[QUOTE=TaylorTaste;4218625]Not comprehensive even but just like a run down of the pros / cons of each?[/QUOTE]I haven't seen anything and I've done some searches. Just sites that describe each. My issue is with paying $40 or $50 or even $90 per month for a subscription when on SB I can buy the credits at my pace and use them at my pace. Sometimes I'm too busy to be searching and doing stuff so during that time I'm not being charged.

This has some info. [URL]http://www.sugardaddysite.org[/URL].

I have a meet and greet dinner date set up with a girl I met on SA. Since I am paying for a very nice dinner am I still expected to pay there rate?

[QUOTE=TSmithers24;4218151]Secret Benefits. It uses a credits system to message instead of monthly payments. You buy 100 or 200 or more credits and then it takes 10 credits to message a girl or 10 credits to unlock their message to you. Once unlocked you can chat openly with them for no credits fee but most of the ones that are serious end up going through text messages or some other messenger service like facebook. I have a burner facebook account for that. It's easy to run through the credits though because you will get messages or want to message girls. At first I was messaging them which is such a crap shoot. Instead now I favorite their profile and see if they favorite me back or they send me a message. Also, what is written in their profile will say a lot about whether they are real or not and whether there is a shot it's more than just "send me money". Some come out and just say, no physical relationship in their profile. I have about 15 messages that I have not unlocked because I think they are scam accounts and don't want to spend the credits. But there are real girls there. Just have to find them.

Thanks for the advice. I'm meeting her next Wednesday. Attractive and 21. We are meeting for two hours. I'll let you guys know how it goes since I now know this sub-forum exists.

I've had two girls just ask me for money for nudes. I said no. Had one that when I asked for a verification photo she stopped texting, total scammer. Had one who wanted 4 bills just to take her out to dinner and twice that for anything else and she wasn't even that hot. I said no. We will see. I'm having fun with it though.[/QUOTE]I'll check out SB and report on findings. I see a lot of repeats between SA and WYP, do you see the same faces on SB?

Don't feel you need to book a date with an exact time specification. I've met for dinner and had it turn into a 2 day fuck fest, I've met for what turned into a 45 minute PSE that I was happy laying out the cash.

[QUOTE=MyHobby;4219266]I'll check out SB and report on findings. I see a lot of repeats between SA and WYP, do you see the same faces on SB?

Don't feel you need to book a date with an exact time specification. I've met for dinner and had it turn into a 2 day fuck fest, I've met for what turned into a 45 minute PSE that I was happy laying out the cash.[/QUOTE]I'm not really on the other sites much so I don't know about repeats. On the timeframe for the meeting, I travel for work and am meeting her during a work trip in another northeast city. She said she would only have two hours that night. But I get what you are saying.

One other thing I noticed is if a girl messages you and then is not on anymore for several days it's probably a bad account. So I don't unlock messages right away. Works most of the time but sometimes it's a waste. So far I've spent less than half of what I would've by having a monthly to SA during the same time frame.

You may not have the same experience though but it's worth a shot. One thing I will say is the local CT area doesn't get a ton of new profiles so you see the same girls in your searches all the time. I'm searching basically from Philly yo Boston and upstate NY so there's lots of option.

[QUOTE=ArchitexOne;4219223]I have a meet and greet dinner date set up with a girl I met on SA. Since I am paying for a very nice dinner am I still expected to pay there rate?[/QUOTE]Some of the ladies are just in it for the food.

[QUOTE=ArchitexOne;4219223]I have a meet and greet dinner date set up with a girl I met on SA. Since I am paying for a very nice dinner am I still expected to pay there rate?[/QUOTE]Personally, I don't do "very nice dinners" as meet and greets. I generally set up the M&G as a coffee date, but do my best to schedule it at a time where it's possible to evolve a quick cup of coffee into a cocktail and dinner and / or a sex date if things are going well. If the meet and greet ends after just coffee, I don't offer them any money at all. If the coffee date evolves into lunch or dinner, but doesn't end in sex (but I really do want to get to sex eventually), I may offer a small token of 30-50. If after dinner I am ambivalent about sex, I don't offer anything. Of course, since it is a "sugar date" I do pay for the meal (and choose a place at the price point I want).

I try not to discuss "sugar" at all, preferring to let the "date" evolve on its own, and then I just slip some money in her purse at the end, after sex. If she forces a negotiation, then I have to negotiate, but I NEVER give money before sex. I've been burned a couple times on that mistake.

Obviously I adjust tactics based on how the girl is feeling. Do I need to make it feel more like a date so she can rationalize that she's not really a prostitute? Does she just want to get to sex as soon as possible so she can get the money? Different girls are different.

[QUOTE=ArchitexOne;4219223]I have a meet and greet dinner date set up with a girl I met on SA. Since I am paying for a very nice dinner am I still expected to pay there rate?[/QUOTE]I'm a bit of an asshole so I let them know dinner isn't a good idea for the first meeting before hand then give other options, if they persist I go through with it but I scrutinize everything. So far 6 women have been mortified by the words"separate checks" after the bill comes.

[QUOTE=Kwagmire;4219949]Personally, I don't do "very nice dinners" as meet and greets. I generally set up the M&G as a coffee date, but do my best to schedule it at a time where it's possible to evolve a quick cup of coffee into a cocktail and dinner and / or a sex date if things are going well. If the meet and greet ends after just coffee, I don't offer them any money at all. If the coffee date evolves into lunch or dinner, but doesn't end in sex (but I really do want to get to sex eventually), I may offer a small token of 30-50. If after dinner I am ambivalent about sex, I don't offer anything. Of course, since it is a "sugar date" I do pay for the meal (and choose a place at the price point I want).

I try not to discuss "sugar" at all, preferring to let the "date" evolve on its own, and then I just slip some money in her purse at the end, after sex. If she forces a negotiation, then I have to negotiate, but I NEVER give money before sex. I've been burned a couple times on that mistake.

Obviously I adjust tactics based on how the girl is feeling. Do I need to make it feel more like a date so she can rationalize that she's not really a prostitute? Does she just want to get to sex as soon as possible so she can get the money? Different girls are different.[/QUOTE]I try to avoid discussing allowances ahead of time before meeting. Big red flag and turn off if after messaging and talking about meeting, they ask, what is my allowance going to be? I tell them we can discuss that when we meet.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/d6dd00af-b5b4-4d4b-ba6a-359de2e9d631[/URL]

Wants a "gift" before meeting. Was kinda persistent about it. Very annoying.

[QUOTE=Kwagmire;4219949]Personally, I don't do "very nice dinners" as meet and greets. I generally set up the M&G as a coffee date, but do my best to schedule it at a time where it's possible to evolve a quick cup of coffee into a cocktail and dinner and / or a sex date if things are going well. If the meet and greet ends after just coffee, I don't offer them any money at all. If the coffee date evolves into lunch or dinner, but doesn't end in sex (but I really do want to get to sex eventually), I may offer a small token of 30-50. If after dinner I am ambivalent about sex, I don't offer anything. Of course, since it is a "sugar date" I do pay for the meal (and choose a place at the price point I want).

I try not to discuss "sugar" at all, preferring to let the "date" evolve on its own, and then I just slip some money in her purse at the end, after sex. If she forces a negotiation, then I have to negotiate, but I NEVER give money before sex. I've been burned a couple times on that mistake.

Obviously I adjust tactics based on how the girl is feeling. Do I need to make it feel more like a date so she can rationalize that she's not really a prostitute? Does she just want to get to sex as soon as possible so she can get the money? Different girls are different.[/QUOTE]Can relate and agree with what you said. Would add that sometimes when I know we hitting it off during the texting phase, I do offer M&G as dinner but generally just do a chain place it affordable and lets you talk more than at a bar or Starbucks. The problem is that the girls who are dtf quickly usually are short term, and the nicer or prettier ones often chicken out on me.

[QUOTE=ArchitexOne;4219223]I have a meet and greet dinner date set up with a girl I met on SA. Since I am paying for a very nice dinner am I still expected to pay there rate?[/QUOTE]Just as a postscript to what I said earlier, I have been out with a total of eleven women from WYP, and have had sex, on the first date, with nine of them. One of them didn't want to, and one of them used pictures of herself from a different dimension so I said no. Want to fuck these ladies? Don't play the games these guys are writing about. Be straight with them. If I bid $100 for a date, which is my common bid, then that's what I give them. There is rarely any discussion for more money when sex is involved. Just treat it like a date. At the end of the meal I usually say something like "it's still early, do you live around here, or should we get a room. " I act as though the sex is implied, not a question. And off we go.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/b899bd70-bcfa-47c3-8808-51bd0ae1b7ac[/URL]

After some back and forth for a couple days agreed to a meet up at a hotel. She showed up an hour late and drunk. Much heavier than the pictures. I think the ones with the dark hair and black outfit are photo shopped. That said it started nice with some slap and tickle, light make out session, and a bit of mutual groping. When it got down to business all I got was a lackluster (to say the least) BJ and ended up using the hotel lotion in the crack of her ass to get myself off.

Even at the $100 we negotiated will not repeat.

[QUOTE=Troutman;4221050]Just as a postscript to what I said earlier, I have been out with a total of eleven women from WYP, and have had sex, on the first date, with nine of them. One of them didn't want to, and one of them used pictures of herself from a different dimension so I said no. Want to fuck these ladies? Don't play the games these guys are writing about. Be straight with them. If I bid $100 for a date, which is my common bid, then that's what I give them. There is rarely any discussion for more money when sex is involved. Just treat it like a date. At the end of the meal I usually say something like "it's still early, do you live around here, or should we get a room. " I act as though the sex is implied, not a question. And off we go.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the info, I haven't tried WYP yet but I've had plenty of offers. Just curious:

1) Do they contact you or do you contact them?

2) Do you get away with it being only $100 or sometimes does it go higher in your after dinner conversation?

3) Do they ding you for a fancy dinner and expensive drinks?

4) Are you getting repeats for the $100?

[QUOTE=MyHobby;4221800]Thanks for the info, I haven't tried WYP yet but I've had plenty of offers. Just curious:

1) Do they contact you or do you contact them?

2) Do you get away with it being only $100 or sometimes does it go higher in your after dinner conversation?

3) Do they ding you for a fancy dinner and expensive drinks?

4) Are you getting repeats for the $100?[/QUOTE]1) after I make the offer and they accept it, I initiate contact. Keep contact very simple, offer to meet over lunch, dinner, drinks, whatever.

2) my opening offer is always $100.90% of the time that is accepted. Sometimes they counter higher, say $200, then I come back with $150. Always accepted.

3) no, they are all more interested in making sure your breath is fresh, you have no open sores, and you're no out to cheat them. I have NEVER been ripped off by one of these girls.

4) most of the repeats are at NO ADDITIONAL CHARGE. Some of them want to maintain an ongoing financial arrangement, but most of them seem to be happy with my desire to help them explore a woman's limitless capacity for orgasm.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/3ac6af40-e364-4b0c-8d04-75d79d2d0915[/URL]

Stripper trying to drive business into Electric Blue.