OC Sugarbabies

[QUOTE=Steve8816;5889731]She contacted me and asked me to text her. I texted her and she was saying that she is flexible, can meet anytime, open to anything, and can host. She asked when I can come over and mentioned that she needs $200 advance deposit and $150 cash when we meet (total $350). A big No for me to send advance payment and this is big red flag. I blocked her right away before she blocked me or reported me.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/e7e33168-ea0e-4d53-bd47-5f6114ed4608[/URL][/QUOTE]And then she wants $200 advance. Sounds like a scam.

Sounds way too good to be true, flexible, meet at anytime, open to anything, can host. That's pretty much the opposite of many girls I can to setup meeting with.

I had to re-schedule 3 times with one SB and I said screw that, too much work for P.

Anyone had luck? SA seems kinda dead these days.

Interesting site, we should check it out.

[URL]https://cuddlecompanions.org/cuddlers/california/[/URL]

[QUOTE=FarFarAway;5897314]Interesting site, we should check it out.

[URL]https://cuddlecompanions.org/cuddlers/california/[/URL][/QUOTE]I have cuddled before with ladies from this site there's also another site called cuddle comfort I believe. I've had maybe 10 sessions over the years most of them are platonic, I got a handy once and I was able to smash another one but the rest have been platonic.

[QUOTE=NutritionFacts;5895584]Anyone had luck? SA seems kinda dead these days.[/QUOTE]A lot of $1000 ppm requests it seems on SA.

Good deals are hard to come by for my criteria.

[QUOTE=JasonVee;5902324]A lot of $1000 ppm requests it seems on SA.

Good deals are hard to come by for my criteria.[/QUOTE]Well, if you are just asking a girl on line what $ she wants, you're going to get her highest rate. As if she is an escort and you are the worst john she's ever going to see. I always recommend to negotiate at the M&G. People are way more sensitive to being rejected when face-to-face. Her ask will be lower, or she will negotiate down quicker. I haven't had experience with this myself, but many guys here report getting a girl who starts at 1000 to get down into reasonable territory. If you have some redeeming features, and she could imagine actually enjoying FC w / you (the whole point of having a SB instead of an escort, in my book), you can get a reasonable rate.

You should expect a pretty Caucasian or Asian girl can be had for 4-500 max. If she is adamant at a price point higher than that, she may not really be into the whole sex thing anyway. She wants to be flattered by the $, but she at her core isn't into hooking up.

[QUOTE=FarFarAway;5897314]Interesting site, we should check it out.

[URL]https://cuddlecompanions.org/cuddlers/california/[/URL][/QUOTE]Cuddle Companions, Cuddle Comfort, and a scattering of other "professional cuddling" sites out there are intended to be platonic. Basically you pay the cuddler's going rate, average around 100 for an hour, to do just that. Cuddle. They make you sign a waiver saying that you understand it is a fully non-sexual service, and that no nudity is allowed, and that you must not touch prohibited areas of the body or grind your erection into the girl's butt even through clothing, or anything else that could be considered a sexual advance. Most of the girls post warnings to that effect on their profiles too. There are some young, cute girls on there. Some will even do sleepovers with you. The vast majority seem to follow the rules and keep things strictly platonic, but you also have to believe that certain girls on there are giving out extras. Trying anything would be a risky proposition because if you make an unwanted move the girl will end the session and report you to the site admins, and you'll be out your money and banned from seeing anyone else. But it's hard to believe, especially the ones that post sexier pictures, that at least some of them aren't at least giving out HJs. Finding the ones that do might be a long and frustrating exercise though.

[QUOTE=Grimmy23;5905582]Cuddle Companions, Cuddle Comfort, and a scattering of other "professional cuddling" sites out there are intended to be platonic. Basically you pay the cuddler's going rate, average around 100 for an hour, to do just that. Cuddle. They make you sign a waiver saying that you understand it is a fully non-sexual service, and that no nudity is allowed, and that you must not touch prohibited areas of the body or grind your erection into the girl's butt even through clothing, or anything else that could be considered a sexual advance. Most of the girls post warnings to that effect on their profiles too. There are some young, cute girls on there. Some will even do sleepovers with you. The vast majority seem to follow the rules and keep things strictly platonic, but you also have to believe that certain girls on there are giving out extras. Trying anything would be a risky proposition because if you make an unwanted move the girl will end the session and report you to the site admins, and you'll be out your money and banned from seeing anyone else. But it's hard to believe, especially the ones that post sexier pictures, that at least some of them aren't at least giving out HJs. Finding the ones that do might be a long and frustrating exercise though.[/QUOTE]Well, I'd regard an initial session with one like I'd regard the M&G w / a potential sugar baby. You'e laying the groundwork for the score, you're not going for the score. I am a patient man, and specifically don't want an escort, which I define as someone who agrees to sex w / someone they've never even met. These cuddlers seem to me somewhat like the SBs, amateurs in need. There is a guy posting on the Richmond sugar thread how he gets SBs 'in the wild', not off the [URL]seeking.com[/URL] site. His methods could be applied to the cuddler world too.

[QUOTE=FarFarAway;5906043]Well, I'd regard an initial session with one like I'd regard the M&G w / a potential sugar baby. You'e laying the groundwork for the score, you're not going for the score. I am a patient man, and specifically don't want an escort, which I define as someone who agrees to sex w / someone they've never even met. These cuddlers seem to me somewhat like the SBs, amateurs in need. There is a guy posting on the Richmond sugar thread how he gets SBs 'in the wild', not off the [URL]seeking.com[/URL] site. His methods could be applied to the cuddler world too.[/QUOTE]Very true. At the end of the day you're cuddling on a bed or couch with a provider of your choice. You have close body to body contact, a lot of spooning or whatever cuddle position the two of you choose, and at least reduced clothing (the rules of these places say t-shirt and shorts is the minimum). Anytime something like that happens, there's at least some potential for the sparks to fly. I could see hands gradually starting to wander a bit after a number of visits, and the girl getting a bit more permissive as you get to know each other more. I could also totally see the flip side where a girl plays strictly by the rules.

These pro cuddling sites have kind of a WTF factor in my mind. I haven't tried one yet but I've browsed. A lot of the younger, better looking ones want $150/ hr for a session. That's a lot for fully clothed, fully platonic cuddling, considering you can get FS in almost any AMP for that much. It's hard to imagine that a lot of clients sign up for that at that price point. OTOH, some people overpay for just about anything, so for some of them it might just be a "put it out there and see what happens" deal. There are also some who post pics of them a bit more scantily clad. Not over the top, but like wearing a lower cut top and taking a pic that emphasizes their cleavage. Of course those are the ones who emphatically say on their profiles that this is a strictly platonic service and they will end the session abruptly if there is any touching of off-limits areas. It's really hard to read some of them. I'd bet good money that some are doing more than cuddling, but it's really difficult to tell because any possible hints are extremely subtle. Like if a girl is charging $150, will only cuddle at her place, and posts pics that are obviously intended to show how hot she is, but emphatically says clothes must stay on and no inappropriate touching is allowed, how seriously do you take it? I haven't been game enough to pay that kind of price to try.

Anyone seen or messaged her? She literally goes to the local gyms I go To lmao. Her body in person is literally just perfect, She always wears such tiny outfits. And will no joke make her ass clap very stealthily after she squats or does a leg workout. It's like she's trying to make men get erections at the gym. [URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/aa208dee-2d55-4b6d-8cc1-a502926b27ff[/URL].

[QUOTE=Meaty55;5929205]Anyone seen or messaged her? She literally goes to the local gyms I go To lmao. Her body in person is literally just perfect, She always wears such tiny outfits. And will no joke make her ass clap very stealthily after she squats or does a leg workout. It's like she's trying to make men get erections at the gym. [URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/aa208dee-2d55-4b6d-8cc1-a502926b27ff[/URL].[/QUOTE]I have messaged her over the past several months, a few times. She has never responded. I may be too old for her, she says she wants someone mature, but doesn't list an age range. My age on the site is 60.

[QUOTE=Meaty55;5929205]Anyone seen or messaged her? She literally goes to the local gyms I go To lmao. Her body in person is literally just perfect, She always wears such tiny outfits. And will no joke make her ass clap very stealthily after she squats or does a leg workout. It's like she's trying to make men get erections at the gym. [URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/aa208dee-2d55-4b6d-8cc1-a502926b27ff[/URL].[/QUOTE]BTW, I was just reading on the Chicago sugar thread that they have a problem there w / girls who pose as SBs but who are really just trying to lure you into scams based on crypto. Obviously, you've seen this one in the gym, we know she is a real person. I have also had an experience w / profiles that are fake (this becomes apparent only after a little while) where they really aren't talking about details of an arrangement or meeting, they are just bragging about their crypto success. I can't really get their angle, no one ever solicited me to do anything.

[QUOTE=FarFarAway;5929459]BTW, I was just reading on the Chicago sugar thread that they have a problem there w / girls who pose as SBs but who are really just trying to lure you into scams based on crypto. Obviously, you've seen this one in the gym, we know she is a real person. I have also had an experience w / profiles that are fake (this becomes apparent only after a little while) where they really aren't talking about details of an arrangement or meeting, they are just bragging about their crypto success. I can't really get their angle, no one ever solicited me to do anything.[/QUOTE]Unless someone is cat fishing with her pics she is very much real, I have Seen her tinder profile before also. I'm stoked to see her at the gym again now LOL.

[QUOTE=Meaty55;5929205]Anyone seen or messaged her? She literally goes to the local gyms I go To lmao. Her body in person is literally just perfect, She always wears such tiny outfits. And will no joke make her ass clap very stealthily after she squats or does a leg workout. It's like she's trying to make men get erections at the gym. [URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/aa208dee-2d55-4b6d-8cc1-a502926b27ff[/URL].[/QUOTE]She used to have different profile but same pictures. I met her for lunch I think around October 2021. She claimed that she is from Malaysia but I didn't follow-up after lunch. Her ass is nice but I feel her boobs are implant and I am not big fan of implant. Her face was okay. That time she asked 500 ppm but I decide to go with other girls as she is not my type.

[QUOTE=FarFarAway;5929459]BTW, I was just reading on the Chicago sugar thread that they have a problem there w / girls who pose as SBs but who are really just trying to lure you into scams based on crypto. Obviously, you've seen this one in the gym, we know she is a real person. I have also had an experience w / profiles that are fake (this becomes apparent only after a little while) where they really aren't talking about details of an arrangement or meeting, they are just bragging about their crypto success. I can't really get their angle, no one ever solicited me to do anything.[/QUOTE]There are some out there recently but profiles are no longer around. They asked if I have WhatsApp instead of text, luckily I have secondary WhatsApp number and we chatted there, both of the girls pretended that they have enough money, just want to meet for companion but now they are so busy so can't meet yet. We kept chatting and slowly she will redirect the conversation on how successful she is on investing money and offer to help you so you can be successful too. Be careful with this kind of girls and don't ever transfer or open account.

Every time they ask I insist that I am here just to find girl to have fun and either we meet soon or I will ignore them. At the end they just disappear and WhatsApp profile is no longer active.