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[QUOTE=JavLuvr;6661596]Pretty sure Momo is PPC Yuria: Look at the second pic on 10 TC website. The shots with the white dress. [URL]https://www.pleasure-palace.club/yuria[/URL].[/QUOTE]Good eye as always. I was like who is this noobie student that wants $400/ hr!? WTFBBQ!
[QUOTE=NeoZeed;6661180]When I saw Ayase Kokoro (3), she told me that some JAV girls are owned by certain studios, as in cannot film with any other entity or person. I offered her way more than the norm too.[/QUOTE]Those are the girls that are generally the stars though. It's like Jenna Jameson was with VIVID. They get paid more than other girls and only shoot once a month or so.
Most of these JAV girls working in the US did a handful of porn movies to increase their escort rates in Japan. According to her Wikipedia. Jp page it does look like Ayase Kokoro was briefly a 'contract girl' so it's certainly possible that she couldn't film with anyone else while she was providing.
Miro DDY [URL]http://dreamdreamyou.com/index.php/about-the-model/?smid=1978[/URL] - the only real new?
All other are moved or recyclables.
Demi now Noa [URL]https://nycsmilingeyes.com/view/602[/URL] - cheaper, boob just just as big.
Rina SE is back [URL]https://nycsmilingeyes.com/view/601[/URL] - new pics.
Momo 1010 [URL]https://10tenclub.com/view/441[/URL] - yes Yuria.
Aoi is back XOXO [URL]https://xoxogirlsny.com/view/441[/URL].
Suya xoxo [URL]https://xoxogirlsny.com/view/440[/URL] - forgot her name. Almost return trip.
[QUOTE=JavLuvr;6661596]We are definitely oversaturated, I think they're looking for some alternatives to NY these days. Supposedly there's an influx of J-girls in CA lately. Boston, Seattle, Chicago and DC are popular stops as well.
I'm not sure whether quality has truly gone down or if some NYC mongers have just gotten used to bare sex with hot young Japanese girls LOL. Maybe both things can be true at the same time. I do think we had more quality girls in fall 2022 through spring 2023, but I also started mongering in fall 2022, so I don't really trust my own judgment on this. I do recall that prices were higher in Manhattan during 2022. There were many girls going for $400 H, occasionally $420 H and $450 H. Not sure if that's because quality was better or economy just wasn't as shitty as it is now.[/QUOTE]I have noticed something that I'm not sure you guys see it. Maybe it's because I'm on hibernation mode but I still lurk, but I have been seeing a huge increase in shills and simps (across all review boards) pushing girls 200 MSRP "firm" or even paying it on multiple occasions. This does make it harder for mongers (especially the lurkers) who cannot afford to pay the MSRP so they are shopping elsewhere, which in economic theory means less business for those girls who have shills / simps. During those times of $400+ you were more likely to receive freebies and they gain repeat customers at $400+ or upcharge was much cheaper. Now the base rate is lower and upcharge is higher / firm with a higher chance of one and done.
To all you shills / simps that are reading, you're only ruining the girls businesses and causing them to move elsewhere where they can find more business. I can guarantee that whichever girl offers $100/ flexi they will be booming in business. That's my 2 cents.
[QUOTE=VidLover69;6661118]Manami def has ptsd if GD gave her the D. Pussy tightness is probably down at least 50%.
Today is tiffany's last day at 1010. Where is she going?
Jenny is a hard no on video. Like WTF, she's a JAV, right?[/QUOTE]Tiffany was in Dc for a while so not there.
Jenny video was about 4 years ago. She has since changed her face and body so could just be not wanting to get videoed again.
I can only recognize her from the tattoo.
I suspect this is why Yuki Etsuko was so popular too on top of her good looks.
I did read on ThER that she was getting $200 but seems to be much later in the tour.
Meaning she was also doing some low bb to some
[QUOTE=ShyNerdX;6661817]I have noticed something that I'm not sure you guys see it. Maybe it's because I'm on hibernation mode but I still lurk, but I have been seeing a huge increase in shills and simps (across all review boards) pushing girls 200 MSRP "firm" or even paying it on multiple occasions. This does make it harder for mongers (especially the lurkers) who cannot afford to pay the MSRP so they are shopping elsewhere, which in economic theory means less business for those girls who have shills / simps. During those times of $400+ you were more likely to receive freebies and they gain repeat customers at $400+ or upcharge was much cheaper. Now the base rate is lower and upcharge is higher / firm with a higher chance of one and done.
To all you shills / simps that are reading, you're only ruining the girls businesses and causing them to move elsewhere where they can find more business. I can guarantee that whichever girl offers $100/ flexi they will be booming in business. That's my 2 cents.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=PokerBrah;6661820]I suspect this is why Yuki Etsuko was so popular too on top of her good looks.
I did read on ThER that she was getting $200 but seems to be much later in the tour.
Meaning she was also doing some low bb to some[/QUOTE]Raising her price towards the end of the tour makes sense because she already has a web of customers. She knows she's almost done so she's ok with them not returning if she got them to return previously 5+ times. This is a business and economics game after all, it's the shills and the simps that are ruining for the girls not us mongers. We lose nothing as we still keep our cash, the girls though they lose cash for being firm / paying shills and simps and not getting business.
That's probably how yume ppc stayed in the game, she knew she couldn't compete with the younger girls, so she went freebie route to maintain repeats.
[QUOTE=ShyNerdX;6661829]Raising her price towards the end of the tour makes sense because she already has a web of customers. She knows she's almost done so she's ok with them not returning if she got them to return previously 5+ times. This is a business and economics game after all, it's the shills and the simps that are ruining for the girls not us mongers. We lose nothing as we still keep our cash, the girls though they lose cash for being firm / paying shills and simps and not getting business.
That's probably how yume ppc stayed in the game, she knew she couldn't compete with the younger girls, so she went freebie route to maintain repeats.[/QUOTE]This is a business but I don't like girls that make it a business with me LOL.
I visited a regular yesterday and from start to finish happy to see me and thank me for visiting blah blah blah.
As opposed to another regular the other day who noted I do not pay for CIP. I will be passing her when she is up in the rotation.
There are too many girls available to stay with a girl that does not give you their A game without bs.
[QUOTE=ShyNerdX;6661829]That's probably how yume ppc stayed in the game, she knew she couldn't compete with the younger girls, so she went freebie route to maintain repeats.[/QUOTE]From a year ago, there are many more C girls opening up their BBFS game to stay competitive with the younger C girls and J girls.
As JavLuvr puts it, why go to aunties when you can have younger, prettier J girls that have not been fucked by half of Manhattan LOL.
GFE service can be hit or miss with the younger set but the over the top fake GFE from veteran C girls is not very appealing either.
[QUOTE=JavLuvr;6661596]I banged her. Apparently PrettyYuki is getting some decent J-girls after all haha. She does match the yuki pics. Pussy tightness did feel a bit down but I enjoyed her. Probably took some BBCs at Yuki plus GD in Manhattan LOL. Will leave a review later.
BTW they finally finished those shower renovations at SL. They have 3 of them now. Looks pretty nice.
She was so hot! Still mad I only got to fuck her once! That LoverPink888 place was great too.
We are definitely oversaturated, I think they're looking for some alternatives to NY these days. Supposedly there's an influx of J-girls in CA lately. Boston, Seattle, Chicago and DC are popular stops as well.[/QUOTE]I saw Yuria at WSD. She is the only japanese girl to ask me for a tip. She was not really my type but attractive.
Manami was fucking tight. I can't say what she did before me but damn that girl had the wide eyed I can' escape from this dick look on her. It was pretty good.
Checking out K girl Lorina today there. . .
[QUOTE=DrunkenKid;6661568]I think they are getting bad advice. The new girls won't be able to establish themselves if they don't get good word of mouth, reviews, and buzz going. IMHO, they need to stay at one place for at least a week to establish themselves. Good service and good reviews will get them the 10+ bangs a day that they are looking for. Rebranding or relocating in the attempt to get new customers is just repeating the same mistake.[/QUOTE]The Chinese girls are the worst. Most of them quit after one day if they don't get a ton of clients first day. I don't even get a chance to look at half of them at DDY / Sl before they are gone.
For J girls. We have so many J places now. The average 1st day clients has to be down but also they have so many more options of where to jump to now.
[QUOTE=SomeNameHuh;6661278]Hey fellas visiting for just 2 nights. How do you get into that places like 1010 and Shangri la without giving your driver license linked in Id, etc? Any tips greatly appreciated![/QUOTE]I would text them and work with them. Sometimes they do video chats. Or know a trusted customer really well for a long time.
Given the ton of Asian BBFS discussions, here's a change of pace. I have a girl from SA I met, been seeing her on and off for a couple years in Jersey. She will be in the Bronx visiting a friend this weekend and wanted to get gangbanged possibly Saturday night. I've double teamed her with another NJ senior member on a few occasions and have posted about this GB in the NJ area too.
She's 21, latina, very small like 4'10", super pettite, no fat, nice body.
Unlimited MSOG, BBFS and CIP for 3 hours. She wants about 400 per guy (375 to her and 25 for the hotel room). Open to trying greek CIA and DPs though she is very tiny, I was only able to DP her pussy once before. Toys, handcuffs, blindfolds, rough play, face fucking etc fine as well.
Preferably senior members and also well hung, as she wants to get stuffed. PM me and I can share pics. And I would prefer to do a quick call with you, just to make sure you're chill.
[QUOTE=WellHung123;6661973]Given the ton of Asian BBFS discussions, here's a change of pace. I have a girl from SA I met, been seeing her on and off for a couple years in Jersey. She will be in the Bronx visiting a friend this weekend and wanted to get gangbanged possibly Saturday night. I've double teamed her with another NJ senior member on a few occasions and have posted about this GB in the NJ area too.
She's 21, latina, very small like 4'10", super pettite, no fat, nice body.
Unlimited MSOG, BBFS and CIP for 3 hours. She wants about 400 per guy (375 to her and 25 for the hotel room). Open to trying greek CIA and DPs though she is very tiny, I was only able to DP her pussy once before. Toys, handcuffs, blindfolds, rough play, face fucking etc fine as well.
Preferably senior members and also well hung, as she wants to get stuffed. PM me and I can share pics. And I would prefer to do a quick call with you, just to make sure you're chill.[/QUOTE]Looking for maybe 3 or 4 senior members to join me.
[QUOTE=ShyNerdX;6661817]This does make it harder for mongers (especially the lurkers) who cannot afford to pay the MSRP so they are shopping elsewhere, which in economic theory means less business for those girls who have shills / simps.[/QUOTE]I'm pretty new to the NYC / East coast scene, but am a vet in California and especially in SF Bay. I don't think you are going to get price drops during the current glut of providers. You are much more likely to get either a more open menu from some girls (2 girl shows, Greek) or what you are seeing now, which is girls trying to show the illusion of scarcity by only working in one place for a short time and then moving to a different city or moving to another org under a different name. Most guys like novelty and are far more likely to see the new hotness vs the known quantity, unless it's a stunner that gives good service who can essentially name her own price because her dance card is going to be full regardless.
To use economic terms, I think the $460/560 price is relatively inelastic not (only) because of the simps but because Jgirls that are giving BB service in a soapland in Kyushuu where the yen is in the toilet hear through word of mouth that they could be making the going rate and are on the first plane to JFK, only to have to compete with every other girl that's done the same along with the existing cast of Kgirls and Cgirls.
I doubt prices will drop much because you aren't going to get simps or anyone else to freeze out these girls, or turn down the upcharge.
[URL]https://10tenclub.com/view/442[/URL]
Does anyone recognize? She looks familiar.
Damn, so interesting. Reading this economic theory has me reflecting on my past experiences, and it's reeling me back to the reality of things. So wild. Thanks for your insight.
Does anyone know the general split a girl takes from an hour rate?
[QUOTE=ShyNerdX;6661817]I have noticed something that I'm not sure you guys see it. Maybe it's because I'm on hibernation mode but I still lurk, but I have been seeing a huge increase in shills and simps (across all review boards) pushing girls 200 MSRP "firm" or even paying it on multiple occasions. This does make it harder for mongers (especially the lurkers) who cannot afford to pay the MSRP so they are shopping elsewhere, which in economic theory means less business for those girls who have shills / simps. During those times of $400+ you were more likely to receive freebies and they gain repeat customers at $400+ or upcharge was much cheaper. Now the base rate is lower and upcharge is higher / firm with a higher chance of one and done.
To all you shills / simps that are reading, you're only ruining the girls businesses and causing them to move elsewhere where they can find more business. I can guarantee that whichever girl offers $100/ flexi they will be booming in business. That's my 2 cents.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=MrPhuk;6662003][URL]https://10tenclub.com/view/442[/URL]
Does anyone recognize? She looks familiar.[/QUOTE]I was going to say new fresh meat!
Looks new to me.
[QUOTE=MrPhuk;6662003][URL]https://10tenclub.com/view/442[/URL]
Does anyone recognize? She looks familiar.[/QUOTE][URL]https://www.pleasure-palace.club/misatorurika[/URL]
Looks like she was here in July at PPC and advertised as a JAV.
4 New ones?
Rurika 1010 [URL]https://10tenclub.com/view/442[/URL] - looks nice, someone asked if new, I am not certain but don't recall these pics.
Suyen NJ [URL]https://myluxeescape.com/content/[/URL] - real pics?
Suzu PPC [URL]https://www.pleasure-palace.club/suzuchan[/URL] - tiny spinner with flat everything is back. Some of you like this, not my type.
Oto PPC [URL]https://www.pleasure-palace.club/otomizuhara[/URL] - looks good.
[QUOTE=PokerBrah;6661789]Miro DDY [URL]http://dreamdreamyou.com/index.php/about-the-model/?smid=1978[/URL] - the only real new?
All other are moved or recyclables.
Demi now Noa [URL]https://nycsmilingeyes.com/view/602[/URL] - cheaper, boob just just as big.
Rina SE is back [URL]https://nycsmilingeyes.com/view/601[/URL] - new pics.
Momo 1010 [URL]https://10tenclub.com/view/441[/URL] - yes Yuria.
Aoi is back XOXO [URL]https://xoxogirlsny.com/view/441[/URL].
Suya xoxo [URL]https://xoxogirlsny.com/view/440[/URL] - forgot her name. Almost return trip.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=ShyNerdX;6661829]Raising her price towards the end of the tour makes sense because she already has a web of customers. She knows she's almost done so she's ok with them not returning if she got them to return previously 5+ times. This is a business and economics game after all, it's the shills and the simps that are ruining for the girls not us mongers. We lose nothing as we still keep our cash, the girls though they lose cash for being firm / paying shills and simps and not getting business.
That's probably how yume ppc stayed in the game, she knew she couldn't compete with the younger girls, so she went freebie route to maintain repeats.[/QUOTE]100% on Yume. A lot of returns because it's a simple economics. If I can save $200 on some hot girl, I'd go back because I'm getting a great return.
Yuki was very fucking smart but I had to cut it while it was good before she asks for MSRP. She never did but I'd like to go out on top... or from behind when it's still good.
I think the number of mongers has gone down while the volume of girls has gone up.
Supply and Demand are already out of wack. And I do see some evidence of price changes.
Demi was $260/500 a PPC and is now much cheaper at Smilingeyes.
I do see more $230 price range girls. Not going to change or make them cheap enough if mongers are fucking poorer due to inflation or out of the job though.
There will always be exceptions but I think the norm price seems to be lowering a little bit.
I do think CIP MSRP is still around because girls getting a bit lower cut on the regular session price so they hope to get it back on the CIP MSRP. They're just fucking retarded because why would anyone want to pay $200 for CIP if half is $230. CIP $200 for full hour $360 is also expersive but why the fuck would anyone pay $200 for half hour CIP? Like. It's 1 shot vs 2 shots.
Some girl know the value of repeat and getting $100 CIP and repeats is better for the overall bottom line. Some would do it even lower since multiple visits would yield more $ in the end.
[QUOTE=Meiji;6662002]I'm pretty new to the NYC / East coast scene, but am a vet in California and especially in SF Bay. I don't think you are going to get price drops during the current glut of providers. You are much more likely to get either a more open menu from some girls (2 girl shows, Greek) or what you are seeing now, which is girls trying to show the illusion of scarcity by only working in one place for a short time and then moving to a different city or moving to another org under a different name. Most guys like novelty and are far more likely to see the new hotness vs the known quantity, unless it's a stunner that gives good service who can essentially name her own price because her dance card is going to be full regardless.
To use economic terms, I think the $460/560 price is relatively inelastic not (only) because of the simps but because Jgirls that are giving BB service in a soapland in Kyushuu where the yen is in the toilet hear through word of mouth that they could be making the going rate and are on the first plane to JFK, only to have to compete with every other girl that's done the same along with the existing cast of Kgirls and Cgirls.
I doubt prices will drop much because you aren't going to get simps or anyone else to freeze out these girls, or turn down the upcharge.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=JediNY;6661860]This is a business but I don't like girls that make it a business with me LOL.
I visited a regular yesterday and from start to finish happy to see me and thank me for visiting blah blah blah.
As opposed to another regular the other day who noted I do not pay for CIP. I will be passing her when she is up in the rotation.
There are too many girls available to stay with a girl that does not give you their A game without bs.[/QUOTE]It's still a business if you're not fucking them for 100% free and 100% $0. Don't forget that brah. No CIP $ is still business. Just more discounts for you.
[URL]https://www.prettyyukinyc.com/view/439[/URL]
New girl at pretty yuki FH. Chance to fuck her for cheap before she potentially shows up in NYC LOL.
She was in CA for a week or two at 200/400 hr.
[URL]https://mimi16888.com/view/224[/URL]
[URL]https://www.miyahouse.com/copy-of-in-house-4[/URL]
[QUOTE=PokerBrah;6662163]It's still a business if you're not fucking them for 100% free and 100% $0. Don't forget that brah. No CIP $ is still business. Just more discounts for you.[/QUOTE]Absolutely. As long as you visit, they get cash and they win.
[QUOTE=PokerBrah;6662135]Yuki was very fucking smart but I had to cut it while it was good before she asks for MSRP. She never did but I'd like to go out on top... or from behind when it's still good.[/QUOTE]Go out on top? Not exactly. She is still laughing all the way to the bank LOL.
[QUOTE=PokerBrah;6662159]I do think CIP MSRP is still around because girls getting a bit lower cut on the regular session price so they hope to get it back on the CIP MSRP. They're just fucking retarded because why would anyone want to pay $200 for CIP if half is $230. CIP $200 for full hour $360 is also expersive but why the fuck would anyone pay $200 for half hour CIP? Like. It's 1 shot vs 2 shots.[/QUOTE]Assuming you want the $200 CIP, it is $430 for the half and $560 for the hour.
Assuming you can pop number 2, that is still an extra $130 you need to pay.
Some folks may not want to pay the $130. No need to throw more money than needed at that pussy.
[QUOTE=Meiji;6662002]I'm pretty new to the NYC / East coast scene, but am a vet in California and especially in SF Bay. I don't think you are going to get price drops during the current glut of providers. You are much more likely to get either a more open menu from some girls (2 girl shows, Greek) or what you are seeing now, which is girls trying to show the illusion of scarcity by only working in one place for a short time and then moving to a different city or moving to another org under a different name. Most guys like novelty and are far more likely to see the new hotness vs the known quantity, unless it's a stunner that gives good service who can essentially name her own price because her dance card is going to be full regardless.
To use economic terms, I think the $460/560 price is relatively inelastic not (only) because of the simps but because Jgirls that are giving BB service in a soapland in Kyushuu where the yen is in the toilet hear through word of mouth that they could be making the going rate and are on the first plane to JFK, only to have to compete with every other girl that's done the same along with the existing cast of Kgirls and Cgirls.
I doubt prices will drop much because you aren't going to get simps or anyone else to freeze out these girls, or turn down the upcharge.[/QUOTE]But you said it yourself "to compete with the other girls", the shills and simps are feeding these thoughts to them hoping that they can match that offer here in NYC. The be competitive they need to be flexible or lower their prices because once mongers hear "blah blah is flexible or giving $100" they will flock to her causing a surge in high demand. It's a supply and demand business, over saturated like some are saying mongers are now looking at reviews and perks on to see. If someone offers better upcharge, than of course they will go see that provider. It's the same for videos and videophiles, I bet if the upcharge price is $100 or less you will see many video mongers. I've heard from multiple provider sources that the girls that are known to be $100 or less are seeing 8-10++ guys a day where as the girls offering $200 firm are only seeing 4-6 a day.
Can't be comparing City to City because much like economics the cost of living is different in each city so the income will be higher or lower. It's really about people feeding the girls false hope and dreams that every monger will pay the same which is 7/10 not the case.
[QUOTE=JediNY;6662174]Go out on top? Not exactly. She is still laughing all the way to the bank LOL.[/QUOTE]Not sure if you understood what I meant. Go out on top as is not have to pay MSRP.
I don't care if she makes money. That's her job. Good for her.
[QUOTE=PokerBrah;6662159]
I do think CIP MSRP is still around because girls getting a bit lower cut on the regular session price so they hope to get it back on the CIP MSRP. They're just fucking retarded because why would anyone want to pay $200 for CIP if half is $230. CIP $200 for full hour $360 is also expersive but why the fuck would anyone pay $200 for half hour CIP? Like. It's 1 shot vs 2 shots.
Some girl know the value of repeat and getting $100 CIP and repeats is better for the overall bottom line. Some would do it even lower since multiple visits would yield more $ in the end.[/QUOTE]Exactly, that's why I was saying it's the shills and simps that are brainwashing the girls. They're probably feeding them stuff like "I'm VIP and write a lot of reviews, you shouldn't lower prices but if you give me $20-40 discount I'll help you out" or however they work I have no idea. My success rate of seeing a girl on day 1 is 90% vs day 3+ which is a 50/50 coin flip. And it could also be the long standing girls who say "don't budge from 100/200" because they are flexible themselves UTR to get that business from the new girls. If it was up to me, if my sources don't tell me a girl is flexi and it's day 3++ I won't visit the girl. I would rather coin flip day 1-2 than to coin flip days 3+, statistics show most people aren't willing to TOFTT on new girls, the ones that do are either 1. Credible mongers or 2. Shills aka you have your coin flip.
Disclaimer: I have no real intel, but this is me projecting business trends as I am a business owner of 4 businesses. This is just what I'm seeing and it's the same as any business, stay competitive to stay relevant that's all it is.
[QUOTE=Azf06;6662012]
Does anyone know the general split a girl takes from an hour rate?[/QUOTE]I don't have enough data on this, but it has come up in conversations after multiple sessions with some JGirls. In general, the new ones are getting less than 50% of the hourly fee. Girls that come back for another tour are smarter and on the other side of the 50%.
The best deal that I have heard about? One popular girl that was here for 2 months was getting 60% and her agent fees were being paid by the house.
[QUOTE=DrunkenKid;6662485]I don't have enough data on this, but it has come up in conversations after multiple sessions with some JGirls. In general, the new ones are getting less than 50% of the hourly fee. Girls that come back for another tour are smarter and on the other side of the 50%.
The best deal that I have heard about? One popular girl that was here for 2 months was getting 60% and her agent fees were being paid by the house.[/QUOTE]Good enough data.
[QUOTE=ShyNerdX;6662372]
Disclaimer: I have no real intel, but this is me projecting business trends as I am a business owner of 4 businesses. This is just what I'm seeing and it's the same as any business, stay competitive to stay relevant that's all it is.[/QUOTE]Yes. People who can actually do some analysis are the winners in this MSRP game.
[QUOTE=DrunkenKid;6662485]I don't have enough data on this, but it has come up in conversations after multiple sessions with some JGirls. In general, the new ones are getting less than 50% of the hourly fee. Girls that come back for another tour are smarter and on the other side of the 50%.
The best deal that I have heard about? One popular girl that was here for 2 months was getting 60% and her agent fees were being paid by the house.[/QUOTE]It varies between stores and agents. I think in Manhattan the store takes at most 50% of the total fee. I've had two situations where the house fee was (I think) waived in its entirety. Once was at 10 TC and it was $100 house fee out of a $300 HH base price. Another time was at Nurugirls, house fee there was $120 out of $320 H base price. Obviously if the girl is Japanese, there's the agent as well, who takes another 10%. This is why extra tips are so important to J-girls, they kinda get a raw deal on the base price split compared to C-girls. Although some may be smart / popular enough to try and negotiate a more favorable arrangement.
In Flushing it's more like a 60/40 split with the house taking at least 60%. I think when you buy an overpriced Flushing C-girl for $500 H she only keeps maybe $200-$240. Part of the reason the damn prices are so high is that Chinese operators take a hefty house fee. CA has K-orgs where you can fuck comparable girls for like 300 H with BB included. The main reason for the lower rates is the house doesn't take a huge cut. They also don't have as much overhead and have fewer peeps on the payroll. Some of these popular places in Flushing / LA are operating out of upscale single family homes and sometimes even a mansion. They got bills to pay!
[QUOTE=ShyNerdX;6662372]would rather coin flip day 1-2 than to coin flip days 3+, statistics show most people aren't willing to TOFTT on new girls, the ones that do are either 1. Credible mongers or 2. Shills aka you have your coin flip.
[/QUOTE]Ah, this explains why we can't seem to get you off your ass to see popular girls. For me, I understand why many want to get in the room first because the girls are maybe more flexible on negotiations. But for me, I like to wait a week first to make sure the girl is "proven". My success rate is 90% on 7+ days. I go in there like a hurricane and the girls probably think I am insane (I speak 100 miles a minute) but they realize that they want to see me again so they work with me. I also skip girls when initial reports are free BBFS. I actually get a high off the negotiations.
[QUOTE=PokerBrah;6662501]Yes. People who can actually do some analysis are the winners in this MSRP game.[/QUOTE]Yup and knowing how to read in between the lines of reviews so you know who to avoid.
[QUOTE=DrunkenKid;6662526]Ah, this explains why we can't seem to get you off your ass to see popular girls. For me, I understand why many want to get in the room first because the girls are maybe more flexible on negotiations. But for me, I like to wait a week first to make sure the girl is "proven". My success rate is 90% on 7+ days. I go in there like a hurricane and the girls probably think I am insane (I speak 100 miles a minute) but they realize that they want to see me again so they work with me. I also skip girls when initial reports are free BBFS. I actually get a high off the negotiations.[/QUOTE]Public reports of free BBFS are shills trying to get people through the door unless proven (Yume). That's also why I avoid popular girls because the hype is driving them (more shills / simps) I've had much better luck avoiding those girls and going based off of what I like and if it's day 1-2, that formula has worked well for me so don't fix what's not broken. But it's not like I'm sleeping completely, there are UTR girls that I'm seeing that still give me freebies who normally don't publicly offer them.
[QUOTE=ShyNerdX;6662650]Yup and knowing how to read in between the lines of reviews so you know who to avoid.
Public reports of free BBFS are shills trying to get people through the door[/QUOTE]If it's reported as FREE, there is no challenge and boring and low interest. Unless she's hot then I'll go still
[QUOTE=DrunkenKid;6662526]Ah, this explains why we can't seem to get you off your ass to see popular girls. For me, I understand why many want to get in the room first because the girls are maybe more flexible on negotiations. But for me, I like to wait a week first to make sure the girl is "proven". My success rate is 90% on 7+ days. I go in there like a hurricane and the girls probably think I am insane (I speak 100 miles a minute) but they realize that they want to see me again so they work with me. I also skip girls when initial reports are free BBFS. I actually get a high off the negotiations.[/QUOTE]Same. LOL.
[QUOTE=CreaminThePie;6662096][URL]https://www.pleasure-palace.club/misatorurika[/URL]
Looks like she was here in July at PPC and advertised as a JAV.[/QUOTE]Just saw her multiple times today; will post follow ups.
[QUOTE=MrPhuk;6662003][URL]https://10tenclub.com/view/442[/URL]
Does anyone recognize? She looks familiar.[/QUOTE]She's not bad; will post the feedbacks asap.
Laura PPC [URL]https://www.pleasure-palace.club/laura[/URL] ass looks good.
[QUOTE=IronClad999;6662745]She's not bad; will post the feedbacks asap.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=IronClad999;6662742]Just saw her multiple times today; will post follow ups.[/QUOTE]So you're saying they are the same girl?
Rurika [url]https://10tenclub.com/view/442[/url]
[url]https://www.pleasure-palace.club/misatorurika[/url]
I do see some resemblance but I would not if you didn't say they were the same girl
edit: god damn you write too much wall of text. can't read all that much!