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[QUOTE=Sparrow3;7411142]Attended an event there during the weekend. Youyou is gone. New girl is named Dolly (Dali sp? Short, average size, not a spinner. Appears to have a nice set of headlights.
I didn't get her, I took my dependable Mimi.[/QUOTE]I was hoping to get to Let's Relax today, but that did not happen. Has anyone been there and received a massage from Dolly / Dali / DaLi??
[QUOTE=Sparrow3;7400938]Made it to Lotus this morning. The first thing I noticed is that the sign above the front entrance is gone. Also noticed a small sign in the window saying "Blue something DBA Lotus Body Works". Got inside, Linda is gone. The girl I met was named Cici (sp? Entry fee still $70 for 60 minutes. Cici speaks very very little English. Uses phone translator. She escorted to a room, collected the fee, then thru the translator said I would have to wait 15 minutes, she already had a customer. While she is telling me this someone else walked in the front door that she had to talk to and turn away. The 15 minutes turned into almost 30 minutes. If I had been told this when I walked in, I probably would have gone elsewhere.
I'm not a fan of places where there is only one person working. They need to stop if someone walks in the front door and also take phone calls. I paid for 60 minutes, I want 60 minutes. Not 50 minutes with 10 minutes of interruptions. Once she started, she gives a very firm massage. Harder than I normally get, but I enjoyed it. After about 15 minutes someone walked in the front door. She had to take care of that guy, get him to a room and such before she returned. When she did come back she asked if I could do 30 inutes instead of 1 hour. Sure, I was to the point I just wanted out. A little more massage, then the flip. Immediately started rubbing asking if I wanted HJ. Then motioned if I wanted her to lift her shirt and bra up. Yes and yes. The fee for up top was $. Nice set of natural ones, but not worth the price.
Cici is Chinese, probably late 30's, nice set, pretty decent massage.
No offer for a refund of any type because of the shortened time. I guess the other guy was more important than me. Not sure I'll return. $. 7 a bit pricey for what I got, and booting me out after less than 30 minutes of attention didn't thrill me.[/QUOTE]Has anyone been to Lotus lately and seen the new girl, Cici? If so can you give a review.
Is there anything you do to report for the places that have been around for quite a while?
Lady massage on bernath was run by an older woman.
The place on South Reynolds was run by an older woman.
I've never been to Phoenix, so I'm not sure about that place.
Lilac up in Bedford?
That Oriental massage in Bedford?
Asian lucky massage was strictly legit. Still that way?
I know a little about lotus and let's relax, just trying to find information on other establishments to get a decent massage.
[QUOTE=SsnakeInc;7415941]I have never heard of a customer being caught in the act. If you read around different cities alot of them have been busted. The workers typically get help for human trafficking, get their phones back and head back to NYC or SanFran or Hous or whenever they are from. They lose some of the cash they had at the spa. Start looking for the next gig, which they were going to do after 2-3 months anyway. Mamasan takes the charge gets let go in a week or so and disappears. Owner of record has probably never foot in the place. Just a guy that has citizenship and takes a cut for taking care of paying the rent, sales tax, tax return etc.
They would literally have to bust the door down and catch you with your dick in her. They all have the inner doorbell you have ring. They have to announce who they are, which is plenty of time for mamasan to sound the alarm, so the girl can get her dress on, flush the condom, and you can put your underwear on.
Now if you are trolling the streets, or looking up the girls in apartments that is a different story[/QUOTE]Ever hear of Robert Kraft? It happens. Foolish to think otherwise.
[QUOTE=BadBird;7416741]Ever hear of Robert Kraft? It happens. Foolish to think otherwise.[/QUOTE]Robert Kraft wasn't walked in on. He was (essentially) illegally recorded in a place where one would expect privacy and his dalliances were discovered during an investigation into something completely different and they were recording at times they shouldn't have been, per the established guidelines of the warrant they LEO had for the wiretap. LEO pulled his car over after he left the spa under the guise of a traffic infraction in order to obtain his I'd. The rest is history.
I'm sure I got some of this facts or terms incorrect but the first is the same. Some of the others caught up in the same sting plea bargained out before Kraft went to court to fight the charges and won due to items mentioned above. Most if not all of the rest of the folks caught in the same sting then either had their cases dropped or used the same defense tactics he did. Those who already plead were SOL.
[QUOTE=DirtMerchant;7416978]Robert Kraft wasn't walked in on. He was (essentially) illegally recorded in a place where one would expect privacy and his dalliances were discovered during an investigation into something completely different and they were recording at times they shouldn't have been, per the established guidelines of the warrant they LEO had for the wiretap. LEO pulled his car over after he left the spa under the guise of a traffic infraction in order to obtain his I'd. The rest is history.
I'm sure I got some of this facts or terms incorrect but the first is the same. Some of the others caught up in the same sting plea bargained out before Kraft went to court to fight the charges and won due to items mentioned above. Most if not all of the rest of the folks caught in the same sting then either had their cases dropped or used the same defense tactics he did. Those who already plead were SOL.[/QUOTE]One suggestion is to follow massage reports in Ann Arbor for possible connections. Ann Arbor LE do not bother spas. Not on their agenda.
[QUOTE=SsnakeInc;7415941]I have never heard of a customer being caught in the act. If you read around different cities alot of them have been busted. The workers typically get help for human trafficking, get their phones back and head back to NYC or SanFran or Hous or whenever they are from. They lose some of the cash they had at the spa. Start looking for the next gig, which they were going to do after 2-3 months anyway. Mamasan takes the charge gets let go in a week or so and disappears. Owner of record has probably never foot in the place. Just a guy that has citizenship and takes a cut for taking care of paying the rent, sales tax, tax return etc.
They would literally have to bust the door down and catch you with your dick in her. They all have the inner doorbell you have ring. They have to announce who they are, which is plenty of time for mamasan to sound the alarm, so the girl can get her dress on, flush the condom, and you can put your underwear on.
Now if you are trolling the streets, or looking up the girls in apartments that is a different story[/QUOTE][URL]https://www.ohioattorneygeneral.gov/Media/News-Releases/September-2025/135-Arrested-as-Operation-Next-Door-Cracks-Down-on[/URL]
[QUOTE=Sparrow3;7417345][URL]https://www.ohioattorneygeneral.gov/Media/News-Releases/September-2025/135-Arrested-as-Operation-Next-Door-Cracks-Down-on[/URL][/QUOTE]Thanks for the link. There's videos linked at the bottom of the page. Here's the one for Toledo:
[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TpHxXnjG0v0[/URL]
Checked the court case site for the local "Johns". Two of the four (I think there were 4 total) solicited an undercover. Location redacted in the court documents. One lawyered up and plead down to disorderly conduct. The remaining were pending. Doubtful that LEO put one or more undercovers in AMPs? But, who knows.
[QUOTE=DirtMerchant;7416978]Robert Kraft wasn't walked in on. He was (essentially) illegally recorded in a place where one would expect privacy and his dalliances were discovered during an investigation into something completely different and they were recording at times they shouldn't have been, per the established guidelines of the warrant they LEO had for the wiretap. LEO pulled his car over after he left the spa under the guise of a traffic infraction in order to obtain his I'd. The rest is history.
I'm sure I got some of this facts or terms incorrect but the first is the same. Some of the others caught up in the same sting plea bargained out before Kraft went to court to fight the charges and won due to items mentioned above. Most if not all of the rest of the folks caught in the same sting then either had their cases dropped or used the same defense tactics he did. Those who already plead were SOL.[/QUOTE]I know that is what happened, but the point is LE went in and took over, then busted johns. It happens is my point. You know how easy it would be for them to stand the recently busted locations back up with UCs and clean house?
[QUOTE=EatonBeaver;7417618]Thanks for the link. There's videos linked at the bottom of the page. Here's the one for Toledo:
[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TpHxXnjG0v0[/URL]
Checked the court case site for the local "Johns". Two of the four (I think there were 4 total) solicited an undercover. Location redacted in the court documents. One lawyered up and plead down to disorderly conduct. The remaining were pending. Doubtful that LEO put one or more undercovers in AMPs? But, who knows.[/QUOTE]I'm sure these 4 Johns were hitting up what they thought was an independent and ended up being Unc. Johns getting charged at an AMP is rare unless you are literally caught balls deep or you talk too much.
Saw a story not to long ago about a priest who frequented an AMP got picked up and charged but they picked him up outside the spa (after a bust) after being 1) monitored coming / going from spa; on prior occasions 2) positively I'd'd by one or more of the girls as "a regular" during the bust (he used to actually drive these girls around to places they needed to go); and 3) he actually admitted to all of it in an interview with LEO (sans legal representative, ofc).
Keep your mouth shut and don't do their job for them. And it's my opinion that the only reason they actually went after him in the first place was his profession. I'm sure they got a positive I'd on him while watching his comings and goings and once they knew he was a trusted clergyman, someone who is frequently around children / vulnerable parishioners, they made it a point to follow up on him. That is ofc just my opinion in the matter, I have no proof that that is what happened (but I think it makes the most sense as no actual customers who were at the spa when it was busted got charged with anything).
[QUOTE=EatonBeaver;7417618]Thanks for the link. There's videos linked at the bottom of the page. Here's the one for Toledo:
[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TpHxXnjG0v0[/URL]
Checked the court case site for the local "Johns". Two of the four (I think there were 4 total) solicited an undercover. Location redacted in the court documents. One lawyered up and plead down to disorderly conduct. The remaining were pending. Doubtful that LEO put one or more undercovers in AMPs? But, who knows.[/QUOTE]Nah I doubt that, you would have to find an asian undercover or c. I. And how many are in toledo. The undercovers were for private sessions on skipthegames.
[QUOTE=BadBird;7417962]I know that is what happened, but the point is LE went in and took over, then busted johns. It happens is my point. You know how easy it would be for them to stand the recently busted locations back up with UCs and clean house?[/QUOTE]Not going to happen. How many 50+ Korean females on on the force? If I showed up a Korean parlor with no Koreans, it would be strictly a massage and it better be passable. If the UC would even try it. I watched the videos I linked yesterday and have some observations that I'll post later.
[QUOTE=Sparrow3;7417345][URL]https://www.ohioattorneygeneral.gov/Media/News-Releases/September-2025/135-Arrested-as-Operation-Next-Door-Cracks-Down-on[/URL][/QUOTE]Check out the videos if you haven't had the chance.
I recognize the same agents in multiple cities as the week progresses. They are not transported and lodged for free.
Note that numerous agents are masked or blurred where the individuals arrested are clearly visible. (Guilty until proven innocent). Two of them at Sky.
The ladies are out of a job for the time being. Their cash is taken. The property owner had a tenant that is no longer paying rent.
Well done LEO.
Has anyone driven by any of the three in Toledo to see if they have reopened?
[QUOTE=EatonBeaver;7418858]Check out the videos if you haven't had the chance.
I recognize the same agents in multiple cities as the week progresses. They are not transported and lodged for free.
Note that numerous agents are masked or blurred where the individuals arrested are clearly visible. (Guilty until proven innocent). Two of them at Sky.
The ladies are out of a job for the time being. Their cash is taken. The property owner had a tenant that is no longer paying rent.
Well done LEO.
Has anyone driven by any of the three in Toledo to see if they have reopened?[/QUOTE]I drove by Sky on Thursday. There were no vehicles in the parking lot. I couldn't tell from the street if there were any lights on in the windows.
[QUOTE=BadBird;7417962]I know that is what happened, but the point is LE went in and took over, then busted johns. It happens is my point. You know how easy it would be for them to stand the recently busted locations back up with UCs and clean house?[/QUOTE]Actually, no. In Kraft's case, the police surreptitiously installed audio and video recording devices in the lobby and massage rooms. Neither the owners, nor the girls working there, knew they were being recorded.
The cops showed up at the spa one day, falsely claimed they had received a bomb threat, and ordered everyone out so they could look for bombs. While the owners and girls were out, they installed recording devices.
How the owners and girls didn't notice these devices, I'll never know.
But yes, a very dedicated LE who was willing to pay a shit-ton of money could potentially set up a trap for johns.