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Called an ATF today to see if she was working. She said no, that she had left the AMP where we usually meet. She directed me to the Hilton Hotel on Maple Ave, Evanston, told me that’s where she works now. An AMP in the Hilton in downtown Evanston? Right. . .
I sensed a sting and stayed away.
Anybody know anything? PM, or better, post.
Be safe.
[QUOTE=Doogie0039]I had to test out the hype, and I can let everyone know that I have confirmed the hype.
These are Tiffany's highlights:
1. Best natural boobs I have ever touched.
2. Light sensual massage that I dream of.
3. Great personality.
4. No haggling.
After our session I asked her if she performs 4 hands and who she is comfortable working with, and she stated a Polish blond who I spotted in the lobby. I think I might jump for that this weekend. What is up with the ugly Asian women that work at this place?[/QUOTE]
Which Bella???
Went to Body and Soul today on Irving Park Road. Met at the door by an old woman, mid 70s? who wantd $70 for table shower and massage. I said who does the massage. She replied with something incomprehensible. Asked her to repeat, she did, very irritated. “Young woman.” A 50 yr old barge came into the room. Age is relative, right? I said I wanted someone younger. A 49 yr old arrived named Candy, mini skirt, etc. Okay. She led me to the table shower, which turned out to be a standup shower. She points the showerhead at me from the greatest distance she can achieve in a tight space, tosses me a rag and points to the soap dispenser. Then to the Sauna. I toweled off and went to the room to begin the negotiation. What you want? HJ. How much you pay? Union rates, 40. No. Fine. I started to get dressed. She said, Give me a little more, I do more, take off clothes. Fine, 50. No, more. I started to get dressed again. She said wait, okay for 50. I gave her the money and she stripped and started right in on my soft dick. She was in a hurry. I tried to slow her down, but no go. No tease, no smile, no seduction, just a fast, indifferent handshake. Hurry, hurry, hurry. I came quick and she toweled me off, touched my feet, ankles and thighs, asked me to sit up, touched my neck, upper back. Done. I don't think I actually ever got a full hardon, but I did come, fast.
Next time I go I’ll bring a stopwatch. She’s a champ, this one. I am sure this did not add up to half an hour.
I won’t return, though. I’m not into fast, indifferent handshakes by women who are too pressed to give me the time of day. She offered her mouth, by the way, but I didn’t want it.
This has not been a good day, what with the possible sting (see earlier post), and then this. It reminded me of 2163 B. S china pl 2 fl, which I reported on earlier today and on 10/20/09.
I’m going for a walk now. Good luck to the rest of you guys. I hope that your Friday the 13th is better than mine.
Has anyone heard or seen Cali the greek godess from EGV?
[QUOTE=Paleface]I reported on this place on 10/20/09. For me it was a rip off. I saw the overweight woman and took the thin one instead. In and out in 15 minutes. Read the report on this forum. I would not go back unless I hear that they changed the personel.[/QUOTE]I guess you should have taken the fire plug shaped one like I did! :-) I don't think I will be back either until I hear a positive review, but the massage I got was first rate (albeit a bit homely).
[QUOTE=Dls712]Has anyone heard or seen Cali the greek godess from EGV?[/QUOTE]
Given that this is the third time you've asked this question, my guess is no.
Don't expect anyone (especially seniors) to be forthcoming if you're not willing to provide any relevant reports first. Sorry, that's just the way it is. I had to learn the same lesson when I started.
You should have walk out when you had the chance. Its shit like this that keeps these fucekrs in business. Right there you said its ok to get serviced from an old hag and let her treat you/us like shit and get away with it. I dont feel you on this one. Smarten UP!!!
[QUOTE=Paleface]Went to Body and Soul today on Irving Park Road. Met at the door by an old woman, mid 70s? who wantd $70 for table shower and massage. I said who does the massage. She replied with something incomprehensible. Asked her to repeat, she did, very irritated. “Young woman.” A 50 yr old barge came into the room. Age is relative, right? I said I wanted someone younger. A 49 yr old arrived named Candy, mini skirt, etc. Okay. She led me to the table shower, which turned out to be a standup shower. She points the showerhead at me from the greatest distance she can achieve in a tight space, tosses me a rag and points to the soap dispenser. Then to the Sauna. I toweled off and went to the room to begin the negotiation. What you want? HJ. How much you pay? Union rates, 40. No. Fine. I started to get dressed. She said, Give me a little more, I do more, take off clothes. Fine, 50. No, more. I started to get dressed again. She said wait, okay for 50. I gave her the money and she stripped and started right in on my soft dick. She was in a hurry. I tried to slow her down, but no go. No tease, no smile, no seduction, just a fast, indifferent handshake. Hurry, hurry, hurry. I came quick and she toweled me off, touched my feet, ankles and thighs, asked me to sit up, touched my neck, upper back. Done. I don't think I actually ever got a full hardon, but I did come, fast.
Next time I go I’ll bring a stopwatch. She’s a champ, this one. I am sure this did not add up to half an hour.
I won’t return, though. I’m not into fast, indifferent handshakes by women who are too pressed to give me the time of day. She offered her mouth, by the way, but I didn’t want it.
This has not been a good day, what with the possible sting (see earlier post), and then this. It reminded me of 2163 B. S china pl 2 fl, which I reported on earlier today and on 10/20/09.
I’m going for a walk now. Good luck to the rest of you guys. I hope that your Friday the 13th is better than mine.[/QUOTE]
Silvio:
A few questions for you.
1. If I had walked out, how could I have evaluated her service? I had no problem with her until she serviced me.
2. How would me walking out, one customer, put her out of business?
3. How could any AMP going out of business possibly be a benefit to anyone?
If I had simply walked out, I would have had virtually nothing to report. Then you, Silvio, would not know that this place is probably not your cup of jasmine tea.
My only regret about the report is that I forgot to include the acronym, YMMV. This place might be perfect for a lot of guys, but yesterday, not for me. YMMV.
[QUOTE=Silvio]You should have walk out when you had the chance. Its shit like this that keeps these fucekrs in business. Right there you said its ok to get serviced from an old hag and let her treat you/us like shit and get away with it. I dont feel you on this one. Smarten UP!!![/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Paleface]Silvio:
A few questions for you.
1. If I had walked out, how could I have evaluated her service? I had no problem with her until she serviced me.
2. How would me walking out, one customer, put her out of business?
3. How could any AMP going out of business possibly be a benefit to anyone?
If I had simply walked out, I would have had virtually nothing to report. Then you, Silvio, would not know that this place is probably not your cup of jasmine tea.[/QUOTE]
I'm not Silvio, but I'd like to take a shot at answering those questions.
1. The way you wrote your original post, it seems that your instincts were telling you the service was going to be terrible, and you were right. If you had walked out without spending the door fee, we would have known that the price was out of line and that the ladies were seriously old. That already tells most of us that this is a place to avoid.
If you had walked out without HE, we would have known that their negotiating is unreasonable and that they pull an attitude at that point. Whenever they pull that s**t, it's almost a guarantee that the service is poor. There should be no negotiating at all. They should do the HR and accept whatever you decide to give them. If the service is great (and I mean GREAT) and they act like they want more, tip extra if it's deserved. If the service is bad and they want more, who cares? You're not going back.
The level of service we ALL accept in this town is terrible. Let me give you an analogy. Suppose a restaurant serves nothing but dog food. If the people don't order it, they either improve their food or go out of business. If the people do order dog food, don't complain and keep coming back, why should the restaurant improve their food? No offense, but you just had some Alpo.
2. It all starts with one customer. See Oriental Beauty Spa on Harlem.
3. It tells the people running these places that they better improve their service and/or lower their prices.
There are four AMPs within a one square mile radius on the far north side - Devon, B.D., Yang and a new one on Peterson that I shall report on shortly. I don't believe any of them charge less than .7, and that may not include a TS. You can get the same service in Chinatown or even downtown for .5. As long as people are willing to pay the .7 for crappy service, there is no incentive for them to get better and/or cheaper.
Saw Julie the other day and had a purty funny something about mary experience. Julie, per usual, is fantastic. She gives a great massage but most importantly she has a really cute personality & looks good too. The table shower was very fun and I got excited in there. She paid a lot of attention to the boys and even made sure my crack was clean. have to love a girl like that. I paid cash this time so I wouldn't get that $5 tax for using a VISA. Towards the finish, I pulled her close to me and starting talking dirty in her ear and she was like "oh yeah, oh yeah" and when I shot my load it hit her in the side of the face. LOL. She had her hair in one of those hair does where her hair is in a pony tail or pulled back but she has those two strands of hair hanging down on each side of her face. So it totally nailed the left side and instead of that part of her hair hanging straight down like the other side, it stuck out at a 90 degree angle as I left. Ish was hilarious.
Great experience, as always, at km. Highly recommended.
People keep talking up bella, and I'm on western a lot, but I'm not in favor of places that rifle around in your pockets and wallet. is this a given every time you visit?
F that, man.
Chances are she has pulled this crap with many other mongers and maybe if everyone walked out on this they'd get the hint that were tired of all the ugly old ladies. Everyone knows we already get the tired old bats. If I walk into a place and they're old and ugly I walk right back out especially If I give them a shot at redemption and request a younger woman, and I dont mean by months, and they counter with more of the same then its ok for them to continue with crap woman and up to us to take a stance. Not trying to be an ass but merely trying to improve service and quality for everyone. Can we all agree younger means 20's and 30's not 40' and 50's.
[QUOTE=Paleface]Silvio:
A few questions for you.
1. If I had walked out, how could I have evaluated her service? I had no problem with her until she serviced me.
2. How would me walking out, one customer, put her out of business?
3. How could any AMP going out of business possibly be a benefit to anyone?
If I had simply walked out, I would have had virtually nothing to report. Then you, Silvio, would not know that this place is probably not your cup of jasmine tea.
My only regret about the report is that I forgot to include the acronym, YMMV. This place might be perfect for a lot of guys, but yesterday, not for me. YMMV.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Silvio]Chances are she has pulled this crap with many other mongers and maybe if everyone walked out on this they'd get the hint that were tired of all the ugly old ladies. Everyone knows we already get the tired old bats. If I walk into a place and they're old and ugly I walk right back out especially If I give them a shot at redemption and request a younger woman, and I dont mean by months, and they counter with more of the same then its ok for them to continue with crap woman and up to us to take a stance. Not trying to be an ass but merely trying to improve service and quality for everyone. Can we all agree younger means 20's and 30's not 40' and 50's.[/QUOTE]
I couldn't agree more!!! We have to set the expectation otherwise we lose control of the market!!
[QUOTE=Silvio]Can we all agree younger means 20's and 30's not 40' and 50's.[/QUOTE]
Hell yes, that's why I dump my gfs and/or wives once they hit 35.
Silvio:
With all due respect to a fellow monger, Silvio, you have make some great contributions to this forum. Thank you. I’m relatively new at this, and this forum has been very helpful.
For me, it is not only a question of age. I prefer younger women, and I can easily agree with you that 20s to 30s is young. But to me it is also a question of service. I have had good service from older women and bad experiences with younger ones, and the other way around, of course. I can accept an older woman in her 40s or 50s, but only if she is in good shape, and if she is willing to take care of me. I don’t like fast, indifferent service.
I posted bad reviews on 2 places recently, Body and Soul, Irving Park Road, just east of Elston, and 2163 B. S china pl 2 fl. It was not the age of the women that bothered me in either case. Both were good looking to me. The 2nd floor woman had a body that looked better than a lot of 20 year olds. What do we call that, Butterface? It was the bad service that bothered me.
You said, “Chances are she has pulled this crap with many other mongers and maybe if everyone walked out on this they'd get the hint that were tired of all the ugly old ladies.” I agree with you, but if she pulled this crap with many other mongers, we should have read about it here. You are right. As the reports start coming in, service should improve. They must read this forum too. IMHO, we need reports on this kind of thing.
Sorry to go on so long. I’m not trying to argue with you here, Silvio. I’m just looking at it from another perspective. I hope you do not take offense. None was intended.
[QUOTE=Silvio]Chances are she has pulled this crap with many other mongers and maybe if everyone walked out on this they'd get the hint that were tired of all the ugly old ladies. Everyone knows we already get the tired old bats. If I walk into a place and they're old and ugly I walk right back out especially If I give them a shot at redemption and request a younger woman, and I dont mean by months, and they counter with more of the same then its ok for them to continue with crap woman and up to us to take a stance. Not trying to be an ass but merely trying to improve service and quality for everyone. Can we all agree younger means 20's and 30's not 40' and 50's.[/QUOTE]