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[QUOTE=B Beall; 1344528]It's legal in Canada. It's legal in Mexico. It's legal across Western Europe, excepting Iceland and Sweden. It's legal in every country in South America except Guyana and Suriname, where the law isn't enforced. Legal in Israel, and in India.

This supposed "vast majority" of people amounts to 52% of the population, l[/QUOTE]Legal in some places doesn't mean everyone's doing it, or ok with it. Just those governments take a different view of it like those of us here wish our government would. As far as this 52% number, I'd like to see the math on that.

Through with this. Both sides of the high end provider argument have a valid point. While a provider is free to set her prices, the customer is worried that the total market will go to higher prices if too many providers increase prices. I say that if the market does go higher, the demand for providers will go down and thus the prices will recorrect themselves.

[QUOTE=Chelli4me;1344614]Legal in some places doesn't mean everyone's doing it, or ok with it. Just those governments take a different view of it like those of us here wish our government would.[/QUOTE]Hold up. First "some places" = almost the whole of Western Civilization except the United States, including one step beyond our borders in either direction. Second, you didn't say "not everyone's doing it", which is a given; you said it "wasn't normal", and the first piece of evidence you offered for that was that it was illegal. So, apparently, in the US the law reflects some basic principle about human behavior, while in the rest of the world it's just the acts of "those governments". But the truth is clearly the opposite: it's the US, where backwoods theology has such political clout, that throws people into prison for doing something as old and as natural as any human behavior you can name. Most everyone else has caught up with the 20th century by now.

But you weren't offering to debate the World Almanac or statistical analysis. You said it "wasn't normal" so you could say, again, that anyone who has a nice word to say about providers is delusional. It's your opinion, and you're welcome to it, and, as I've said before, I frequently admire your style in defending it. But it swims against the tide of common sense, in an ocean of people who do believe providers can be honest, caring, and true friends. And worth every penny. As such you really ought to just remain secure in your knowledge that you're sharper than the rest of us, and cut out the unlicensed psychoanalysis.

[QUOTE]As far as this 52% number, I'd like to see the math on that.[/QUOTE]From this August:

[url]http://today.yougov.com/news/2011/08/25/68-favor-legalized-gambling-39-would-legalize-pros/[/url]

[QUOTE=B Beall;1344148]Yeah, except that isn't what everybody is saying. Some seem to think that Abby has no right to charge more than Taco Bell. Worse, they imagine they can review the establishment without ever having been there.[/QUOTE]BB you have explained in three sentences what most everyone has argued about in paragraphs and novels. I take my hat off to you. The one on my big head not my little head. What's worse is they want the smorgasbord of Fogo de Chao at the Taco Bell price.

FF.

PS.

[QUOTE=IrishLaddie;1344163]I don't have to have her get on her knees and have her look up at me so I feel superior.[/QUOTE]I do, because there is no sight better in this world than watching a woman with freckles on her face, chest, shoulders and back, on her knees looking up at me while providing me with a BBBJTC. It's hot!

Fellow hobbyists, colleagues, constituents,

After our hour-long session last week, I was walking out of a provider's incall location, and she started to hug me. I asked "What the hell are you doing"? And she said "Thanks," and "hope to see you next week." I replied "No, that's not what I'm talking about. I don't hug after we're done. A simple handshake is fine." She knows what I'm referring to if she's reading this (and yes some of them do read these posts). I hope she wasn't offended as I walked out the door after shaking her hand and answering my cell phone. And that's when the idea popped into my head. I want to post a PSA to others who've either just joined the hobby or have been in the hobby a long time, reminding them that this is a business, nothing more, nothing less. So this post is for fellow hobbyists.

I'm not writing this to offend anyone, and I'm not mentioning names or other Web sites.

Some of you don't need a reminder (I in fact needed to remind myself of this a few months ago). But I've recently read on other Web sites where a few of you are "infatuated" with a provider or two, and even "care" for them. The quoted words aren't mine. Heck, the other day I read on a Louisville board on this site about a guy seeking advice on asking a provider out for a drink. Geez, that's swell. What some of you fail to realize is that you, as hobbyists, should have the same approach as the provider, no matter how hot she is and no matter how hot the GFE. The approach should be ALL business. What I mean is grow some fucking bawls. I was married for almost 10 years (I have a best-selling biography about my ex; it's called "See You In Tea") and I've been a part of the hobby for about 14 years since I divorced her dumb, lazy ass. I consider "hooking up" with a hottie a special type of "pamper" session for myself, like when a chick gets a couple hours at a spa or salon, like a place to unwind with a couple glasses of wine followed by a massage or whatever the fuck they do there. But I still take a business approach to this hobby. Once you approach this as a business, like ALL providers do, then this hobby will be a blast. If anyone of you consider "hooking up" as anything more than that, then you have a problem. These fine women have lives and while they cherish the consistency of a good regular, they have mouths to feed and businesses to run. Top providers have to market themselves, answer phone calls / texts, balance different budgets (advertising, phone bills, hotel rooms, clothing, etc.) to make their business work, and then find time to spend with family / loved ones. They don't have it easy.

Sure, I've gotten on here and written "woman that I love" and "girl of my dreams," and blah, blah, blah. That's all bullshit, nothing more. When providers text you with similar phrases, it's again just that: bullshit. They're thinking business and so should you.

When you've been doing this for as long as I have, you should know how to separate fantasy and reality. I've been single since the mid-1990s. After that horrible decade in my life when I had to wear a ball and chain (remember to check out my book). Being single has allowed me to text back-and-forth to a couple providers when I'm out and about. Like out at a titty bar or at BW3s. It allows them to answer my texts whenever they want with no haggling wife to ask me "Who the fuck is texting you at 2 in the morning?" So just remember, we have some quality providers in central Indiana, and learning how to "separate" is essential. Once you've mastered the business approach, even with a regular, the hobby will be most enjoyable. But if you think anything can develop from a "friendship" or "drinks" with a provider, and you "care" deeply for them, then you should take some of your hard-earned dough that you spend on this hobby and get some professional help. And I'm not saying it's not cool to hug a provider as you're walking out. It's just part of my personal business approach.

So remember the following phrase: If you can't separate, masterbate.

Oh, and to the provider I talked about in my opening sentence, if you're reading this, you're fired. Nothing personal.

This has been a public service announcement for fellow hobbyists.

Trying to keep it real,

BFDeal

[QUOTE=BFDeal; 1344741]Fellow hobbyists, colleagues, constituents,

After our hour-long session last week, I was walking out of a provider's incall location, and she started to hug me. I asked "What the hell are you doing"? And she said "Thanks," and "hope to see you next week." I replied "No, that's not what I'm talking about. I don't hug after we're done. A simple handshake is fine." She knows what I'm referring to if she's reading this (and yes some of them do read these posts). I hope she wasn't offended as I walked out the door after shaking her hand and answering my cell phone. And that's when the idea popped into my head. I want to post a PSA to others who've either just joined the hobby or have been in the hobby a long time, reminding them that this is a business, nothing more, nothing less. So this post is for fellow hobbyists.

I'm not writing this to offend anyone, and I'm not mentioning names or other Web sites.

Some of you don't need a reminder (I in fact needed to remind myself of this a few months ago). But I've recently read on other Web sites where a few of you are "infatuated" with a provider or two, and even "care" for them. The quoted words aren't mine. Heck, the other day I read on a Louisville board on this site about a guy seeking advice on asking a provider out for a drink. Geez, that's swell. What some of you fail to realize is that you, as hobbyists, should have the same approach as the provider, no matter how hot she is and no matter how hot the GFE. The approach should be ALL business. What I mean is grow some fucking bawls. I was married for almost 10 years (I have a best-selling biography about my ex; it's called "See You In Tea") and I've been a part of the hobby for about 14 years since I divorced her dumb, lazy ass. I consider "hooking up" with a hottie a special type of "pamper" session for myself, like when a chick gets a couple hours at a spa or salon, like a place to unwind with a couple glasses of wine followed by a massage or whatever the fuck they do there. But I still take a business approach to this hobby. Once you approach this as a business, like ALL providers do, then this hobby will be a blast. If anyone of you consider "hooking up" as anything more than that, then you have a problem. These fine women have lives and while they cherish the consistency of a good regular, they have mouths to feed and businesses to run. Top providers have to market themselves, answer phone calls / texts, balance different budgets (advertising, phone bills, hotel rooms, clothing, etc.) to make their business work, and then find time to spend with family / loved ones. They don't have it easy.

Sure, I've gotten on here and written "woman that I love" and "girl of my dreams," and blah, blah, blah. That's all bullshit, nothing more. When providers text you with similar phrases, it's again just that: bullshit. They're thinking business and so should you.

When you've been doing this for as long as I have, you should know how to separate fantasy and reality. I've been single since the mid-1990s. After that horrible decade in my life when I had to wear a ball and chain (remember to check out my book). Being single has allowed me to text back-and-forth to a couple providers when I'm out and about. Like out at a titty bar or at BW3s. It allows them to answer my texts whenever they want with no haggling wife to ask me "Who the fuck is texting you at 2 in the morning?" So just remember, we have some quality providers in central Indiana, and learning how to "separate" is essential. Once you've mastered the business approach, even with a regular, the hobby will be most enjoyable. But if you think anything can develop from a "friendship" or "drinks" with a provider, and you "care" deeply for them, then you should take some of your hard-earned dough that you spend on this hobby and get some professional help. And I'm not saying it's not cool to hug a provider as you're walking out. It's just part of my personal business approach.

So remember the following phrase: If you can't separate, masterbate.

Oh, and to the provider I talked about in my opening sentence, if you're reading this, you're fired. Nothing personal.

This has been a public service announcement for fellow hobbyists.

Trying to keep it real,

BFDeal[/QUOTE]Well now. I am old enough to remember when hugging was different than it is today. I mean you now see grown men hug each other over a great golf shot, trophy dear or the president hug everyone in sight; I would agree that I find all that somewhat odd BUT a provider with whom I have been naked with and shared, well you know, I find a hug standard and very acceptable. We all realize it's business, but did your marriage make you that cantankerous? Give out a hug - It's Christmastime!

F / I

[QUOTE=BFDeal; 1344741]Fellow hobbyists, colleagues, constituents,

After our hour-long session last week, I was walking out of a provider's incall location, and she started to hug me. I asked "What the hell are you doing"? And she said "Thanks," and "hope to see you next week." I replied "No, that's not what I'm talking about. I don't hug after we're done. A simple handshake is fine." She knows what I'm referring to...[/QUOTE]That happened to me once too! A well known provider hugged me afterwards and I said,"What do you think you're doing?". And she gave me my wallet back.

[QUOTE=B Beall; 1344711 Second, you didn't say "not everyone's doing it", which is a given; you said it "wasn't normal", and the first piece of evidence you offered for that was that it was illegal. For doing something as old and as natural as any human behavior you can name.

You said it "wasn't normal" so you could say, again, that anyone who has a nice word to say about providers is delusional. But it swims against the tide of common sense, in an ocean of people who do believe providers can be honest, caring, and true friends. Just remain secure in your knowledge that you're sharper than the rest of us, and cut out the unlicensed psychoanalysis.[/QUOTE]

Certainly sexual behavior is normal. The not normal part I was referring to, and that anyone with any amount of common sense would realize, is that paying for sex is abnormal. Yes there are those that would say youpay for sex even with your wife / girlfreind by paying household bills, buying gifts, mowing the lawn putting up with in-laws yadda yadda yadda. Sure it can be looked at that way but when you get married you know what you're in for so if you don't want that don't get married.

I've never said anyone that has a nice word about providers is delusional. I've had plenty of nice words for many of the gals I've seen over the years. I've known some real sweethearts. Some have even said to me "it doesn't always have to be about sex, we can get together for dinner or a movie if you want." So, I tried that. Not once was such an offer accepted. The reason is obvious. They weren't getting paid for it. I won't pay a gal to go to dinner with me. That is not friendship. Those of you that think you have real friendships with a provider, see how long she remains your friend if you never give her another dime.

And no, I'm not sharper than anyone. In fact I consider myself duller than a butter knife. I can't even always get the quote thing to work right! I'm not psychoanalying anyone, just rendering opinions. How anyone chooses to interpret them is beyond my control.

[QUOTE=Obama;1344807]That happened to me once too! A well known provider hugged me afterwards and I said,"What do you think you're doing?". And she gave me my wallet back.[/QUOTE]Thats a good one Mr. President.

On a serious note, I was in a AMP in Louisville Friday, a regular place I like to visit often. While on my stomach the lady asked me if I wanted to do somthing with her on Christmas. I asked what she would like to do, she said dosn't matter its up to me surprise her. I thought this was humorous for awhile then I thought it sad that she would have to ask. We should be thankful of the family and friends that we have to spend holidays with because there are others that are not as fortunate.

Happy holidays to all.

TN

[QUOTE=Obama;1344807]That happened to me once too! A well known provider hugged me afterwards and I said,"What do you think you're doing?". And she gave me my wallet back.[/QUOTE]Spit beer threw my nose when I read this.

[QUOTE=BFDeal;1344741]So remember the following phrase: If you can't separate, masterbate.[/QUOTE]Two-sided sword. There may be a lot of guys who confuse providing with personal attraction; I imagine any provider who's seen more than two clients can confirm that. And what's the worst that happens to such fellows? A provider uses the attitude to get him to see her more often? He buys her diamonds? Self-inflicted, and exchanged in his mind for something of equal or greater value. So maybe he regrets it later. So what?

There's also the guy who can't separate his RL attitude about women, or sex, or money, from providing. Maybe at most he misses out on having a closer personal relationship with someone, which he doesn't care to have anyway, and which might, or might not, have led to a special chemistry, or special considerations. Again, no big deal. The only reason I'd argue the point is when you or Chelli act as though your own opinions are universal verities.

The reason we keep having this argument isn't guys posting "Abby is worth 10K, and anyone who doesn't agree she farts eau de cologne is probably gay". Nobody says that. It's the regular tub-thumping about all providers being thieves because they won't see some mope for whatever he'd like to spend. It's the bi-monthly lectures on the free market as told by guys who have no idea what they're talking about. And it's the gratuitous bashing of a provider by guys who've never seen her, simply because they don't like her rates and imagine themselves the vanguard of some boycott movement that'll take her arrogant ass down a peg or two. That's not just fucking delusional; it's also a detriment to the hobby, since it gives providers-who bear the largest part of the LE risk, almost all of the physical risk, and 100% of the financial risk-even more reason to be suspicious of hobbyists. And gives any newbie readers the wrong impression about behavior.

I'm just dumbfounded, really, that on a board dedicated to swapping information about the hobby, so many hobbyists seem to imagine the biz would be improved if only we could get the providers out of it. There's no problem with someone taking a professional attitude, if that's right for him; there's no problem with someone thinking that no provider is worth $$ *to him* If someone thinks every provider is a money-hungry harpy who can't hold a real job, well, we've got a long history of giving people the freedom to believe whatever they wish, regardless of the ton of evidence allied against them. But going out of your way to bash a provider you've never seen is just using this board as a psychiatric Free Clinic, and it's not good for anyone else in the hobby.

I'm sorry but I think a nice hug when your leaving and or a kiss don't mean that we are a special couple. I thinks is part of the GFE that you get as a hobbies. I know is business for them as it is for me but you go to a store were customer service is good. If service is good your returne and give them yo business. Same thing with providers if they make you feel special during the time you spend with them hou return. Is just a huge not a marriage.

[QUOTE=BFDeal; 1344741]Fellow hobbyists, colleagues, constituents,

After our hour-long session last week, I was walking out of a provider's incall location, and she started to hug me. I asked "What the hell are you doing"? And she said "Thanks," and "hope to see you next week." I replied "No, that's not what I'm talking about. I don't hug after we're done. A simple handshake is fine." She knows what I'm referring to if she's reading this (and yes some of them do read these posts). I hope she wasn't offended as I walked out the door after shaking her hand and answering my cell phone. And that's when the idea popped into my head. I want to post a PSA to others who've either just joined the hobby or have been in the hobby a long time, reminding them that this is a business, nothing more, nothing less. So this post is for fellow hobbyists.

I'm not writing this to offend anyone, and I'm not mentioning names or other Web sites.

Some of you don't need a reminder (I in fact needed to remind myself of this a few months ago). But I've recently read on other Web sites where a few of you are "infatuated" with a provider or two, and even "care" for them. The quoted words aren't mine. Heck, the other day I read on a Louisville board on this site about a guy seeking advice on asking a provider out for a drink. Geez, that's swell. What some of you fail to realize is that you, as hobbyists, should have the same approach as the provider, no matter how hot she is and no matter how hot the GFE. The approach should be ALL business. What I mean is grow some fucking bawls. I was married for almost 10 years (I have a best-selling biography about my ex; it's called "See You In Tea") and I've been a part of the hobby for about 14 years since I divorced her dumb, lazy ass. I consider "hooking up" with a hottie a special type of "pamper" session for myself, like when a chick gets a couple hours at a spa or salon, like a place to unwind with a couple glasses of wine followed by a massage or whatever the fuck they do there. But I still take a business approach to this hobby. Once you approach this as a business, like ALL providers do, then this hobby will be a blast. If anyone of you consider "hooking up" as anything more than that, then you have a problem. These fine women have lives and while they cherish the consistency of a good regular, they have mouths to feed and businesses to run. Top providers have to market themselves, answer phone calls / texts, balance different budgets (advertising, phone bills, hotel rooms, clothing, etc.) to make their business work, and then find time to spend with family / loved ones. They don't have it easy.

Sure, I've gotten on here and written "woman that I love" and "girl of my dreams," and blah, blah, blah. That's all bullshit, nothing more. When providers text you with similar phrases, it's again just that: bullshit. They're thinking business and so should you.

When you've been doing this for as long as I have, you should know how to separate fantasy and reality. I've been single since the mid-1990s. After that horrible decade in my life when I had to wear a ball and chain (remember to check out my book). Being single has allowed me to text back-and-forth to a couple providers when I'm out and about. Like out at a titty bar or at BW3s. It allows them to answer my texts whenever they want with no haggling wife to ask me "Who the fuck is texting you at 2 in the morning?" So just remember, we have some quality providers in central Indiana, and learning how to "separate" is essential. Once you've mastered the business approach, even with a regular, the hobby will be most enjoyable. But if you think anything can develop from a "friendship" or "drinks" with a provider, and you "care" deeply for them, then you should take some of your hard-earned dough that you spend on this hobby and get some professional help. And I'm not saying it's not cool to hug a provider as you're walking out. It's just part of my personal business approach.

So remember the following phrase: If you can't separate, masterbate.

Oh, and to the provider I talked about in my opening sentence, if you're reading this, you're fired. Nothing personal.

This has been a public service announcement for fellow hobbyists.

Trying to keep it real,

BFDeal[/QUOTE]

I get one before and after my events with certain providers. Ms Elli, and Cate are two very fine huggers, and I believe they are genuine. The AMP girls always hug me when I leave, but those are more of the mother and law type hug. Which I always check to make sure that ol battle axe's hands are void of sharp objects before she wraps them around my back. I give FF and ILAPP a hug when I see them and bid them farewell for another 3-6 months. Not because we plan on spooning or having candlelite dinners folowed by handheld walks in the moonlite, but because its a friendship that is genuine, plus I know there will be several licked female freckles instore for the evening ahead, and many lap dances. BTW I'll be in Indy the 19th thru 22nd guy's. Save up your dollar bills.

TN

I can see where BB is coming from and I do think in this economy with so many ladies in this many are giving you a goodbye kiss or hug to get return business. BB is I think just saying don't mistake that hug and kiss for closeness on her part. Is usually the lady trying to say in a nice way enjoyed our time and hope you come back again. If it is more about GF GFE then by all means be careful LOL Two good looks at the total situation.

First time for everything,

Called for a girl I normally see off BP and her phone handler to me to review her soon and be nice to her, because the last time I put a review on here for one of her other girls she answers the phone for, I wasnt very nice and was mean according to her.

Yes, I was a little kurt, but I am getting sick and tired of all the fake pics and the shitty service out there. I am very nice to every lady I see, I am never rude but if you sell a bill of goods, don't expect everyone to be happy. Now, I am not going to continue to bash her, just give my review and move on. Several other SM's on this board have been very helpful to me and I will not give a good review to a chick that is not deserving of it. You put porn model images on your posts and look like her 50 year old grandmother, I am going to let the other fellas know. ONE TIME and move on.