Bareback Providers

[QUOTE=LeftEye;5190605]Funny thing is when covid first happened a lot of people were speculating that the ladies would be forced to lower their prices.

If anything they charge an even higher premium now, you should look at the rates on Tryst, the median price seems to be $400 an hour.

I've only been in the hobby for 5 years but the landscape is so different now in terms of rates, providers and attitude in general.[/QUOTE]True $tory, 3/4 years from now the norm will be 400 hhr and 700 for an hr LOL. Also hate how the ladies always stick together because they know there is something between their legs we want! And men can't stick together for shit because we throw each other under the bus for p sleeve! Jezuz.

[QUOTE=AsaMona22;5190651]True $tory, 3/4 years from now the norm will be 400 hhr and 700 for an hr LOL. Also hate how the ladies always stick together because they know there is something between their legs we want! And men can't stick together for shit because we throw each other under the bus for p sleeve! Jezuz.[/QUOTE]When someone new comes on the board they are contacted by other providers and told to raise their prices. It's a pussy cartel. Plus you also have idiot hobbyists telling them to raise prices thinking this will endear them to the provider. I hear Indian men do this quite often and believe it makes them look cool because they can spend money. I've been told this by three providers who I have seen for awhile.

[QUOTE=MarkoRamius;5190599]It isn't like Seattle thirty years ago was anything to brag about.

In general escorts and indys were $150-$200 for uninspired covered sex or $150-$200 and an insane upsell for uninspired covered sex. AMPs were about $200 out (house + tip) for everything covered.

The best deals I found in those times was a plump redheaded girl in Kent with an amazing and highly functional mouth for $150 (uncovered) and an AMP in Bellevue (and later Kirkland) where the young korean hotties would provide more-or-less GFE service for about $200 or $220. An added bonus is that I sometimes meet one of those girls who is now working a north end MP thirty years later.[/QUOTE]Hell man even 6 to 8 years ago. It all started to change when backpage went away. They basically unionized on the board.

[QUOTE=ChopperDan113;5189819]The only reason the average $$ is so high now is because dumb F at &% guys are paying for it and on top of that the girls are putting out less. A few girls on TNA have VIP, I ask one of them what was ok in her VIP and she said it was just CFS and that is it. Its all CBJ on TNA, what happen to BBBJ. I will tell you what happen, guys are paying for CBJ and it sucks. Texas girls are all BBBJ and everything else. CBJ is unheard of there.[/QUOTE]Ok I'll take issue with this only on one level. I'm fat, yet I'm not dumb. I still expect very good service and I won't pay 250, or even 200 for non GFE, all covered, no daty or BBBJ service. I can enjoy spanking it to some porn and save the coin. My point is your assumption is not really very correct. It's that a lot of people have a lot of money and are willing to pay these rates. I have money and I refuse. I don't get off on blowing 400 on a ho who provides what 150 used to get 6 years ago. It's bullshit. I do know Indian men will offer a lot of money. I know tech guys think it makes them cool to over pay.

[QUOTE=XCrossTownX;5190051]I moved here from Dallas and every time I go back the hobby treats me better.[/QUOTE]I do well in Phoenix too. I have two people I see there. I pay three hundred total and will see them every day I'm there, which three or four days. So I can fill two women a day for no more than 600 in total. Sometimes it works out to 80/ visit.

[QUOTE=SeattleCasual;5189966]On that note, does anyone have any recommendations for the best places to go on vacation for bb?[/QUOTE]Honolulu. Best of the best there and all for reasonable prices.

[QUOTE=Jimmysixxx7;5190727]Ok I'll take issue with this only on one level. I'm fat, yet I'm not dumb. I still expect very good service and I won't pay 250, or even 200 for non GFE, all covered, no daty or BBBJ service. I can enjoy spanking it to some porn and save the coin. My point is your assumption is not really very correct. It's that a lot of people have a lot of money and are willing to pay these rates. I have money and I refuse. I don't get off on blowing 400 on a ho who provides what 150 used to get 6 years ago. It's bullshit. I do know Indian men will offer a lot of money. I know tech guys think it makes them cool to over pay.[/QUOTE]My point if guys did not pay these high rates for sub par service then the rates would not be so high like they are. The guys paying top dollar for CBJ, no daty are ruining it for everyone else. I will not pay 200 for CBJ and will not even see anyone who does CBJ, what is the point. I do less ponning now because of this. Even the guys with money, so what, why pay for NON GFE, a guy can stay home and get that from his wife. I have money and will not pay for NON GFE. I did a few negative reviews and was censored on TNA. TNA sucks.

[URL]https://everett.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/caucasian_w/happy-hump-daywanna-play/926631592487[/URL]

Danii BBBJ and bbfscip. She is a bit heavier than pictures.

[QUOTE=LeftEye;5190605]Funny thing is when covid first happened a lot of people were speculating that the ladies would be forced to lower their prices.

If anything they charge an even higher premium now, you should look at the rates on Tryst, the median price seems to be $400 an hour.

I've only been in the hobby for 5 years but the landscape is so different now in terms of rates, providers and attitude in general.[/QUOTE]Ladies actually increased prices during the COVID thing because there are so many guys willing to pay higher prices for a piece of ass that they could easily get for hundreds less if they'd stop thinking with the little head.

[QUOTE=Jimmysixxx7;5190727]Ok I'll take issue with this only on one level. I'm fat, yet I'm not dumb. I still expect very good service and I won't pay 250, or even 200 for non GFE, all covered, no daty or BBBJ service. I can enjoy spanking it to some porn and save the coin. My point is your assumption is not really very correct. It's that a lot of people have a lot of money and are willing to pay these rates. I have money and I refuse. I don't get off on blowing 400 on a ho who provides what 150 used to get 6 years ago. It's bullshit. I do know Indian men will offer a lot of money. I know tech guys think it makes them cool to over pay.[/QUOTE]+1 - I set strict lines for myself that I do not cross. I do not see non GFE (CBJ, No DATY etc.) women. I just will not see them. And haven't for ages. It is who I am and I am extremely comfortable in my own skin. Not going to change anytime soon. On SA I have actually turned down extremely hot women if they say want covered sex. So that goes even further than GFE. If everybody just had some discipline in how the approached this hobby it would make it a lot better for everyone. In every other service industry to pay the bare minimum to get the best possible service. But here for some reason. Good, smart people loose their heads.

[QUOTE=MorganCreamin;5190215]When restrictions lift, I'm going back to Thailand. It's been a long time, maybe things have changes, but for a few extra baht I never had any issues.[/QUOTE]Love visiting Thailand. My first trip to Pattaya really changed the way I view this hobby. I rarely hobby at home anymore. Between the cost and general lack of talent in the looks department, I just don't see the reason too.

[QUOTE=Camhole;5191103]Love visiting Thailand. My first trip to Pattaya really changed the way I view this hobby. I rarely hobby at home anymore. Between the cost and general lack of talent in the looks department, I just don't see the reason too.[/QUOTE]I've been wanting to go for a while, but don't believe I'm familiar enough with what protocol would be like where / where not to go and things to avoid etc. Maybe someday.

[QUOTE=Camhole;5191103]Love visiting Thailand. My first trip to Pattaya really changed the way I view this hobby. I rarely hobby at home anymore. Between the cost and general lack of talent in the looks department, I just don't see the reason too.[/QUOTE]What happened on your first trip to Pattaya?

This one is gps now 180 for hh covered and 300 for hh bb.

[QUOTE=Muree3;5140397]This one belongs here, just don't ask on text. She charges 75 qv,125 hh,200 hr. BB + Don't increase her rates offering a lot of money you I'd*ots!

[URL]https://www.tnaboard.com/showthread.php?2107290-Young-Lonely-MILF-%26%23128166%3B-%26%23128166%3B-%26%23128166%3B[/URL][/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=LeftEye;5190605]Funny thing is when covid first happened a lot of people were speculating that the ladies would be forced to lower their prices.

If anything they charge an even higher premium now, you should look at the rates on Tryst, the median price seems to be $400 an hour.

I've only been in the hobby for 5 years but the landscape is so different now in terms of rates, providers and attitude in general.[/QUOTE]Not this again.

If you aren't picky about looks and know where to look there are still plenty of decent providers charging about $250-300 hr, $150-250 half hr. In the past 6 most I've been contacted by a couple providers I haven't seen in more than a year who are desperate for money, so some have definitely taken a hit since Covid.

[QUOTE=Jimmysixxx7;5190711]When someone new comes on the board they are contacted by other providers and told to raise their prices. It's a pussy cartel. Plus you also have idiot hobbyists telling them to raise prices thinking this will endear them to the provider. I hear Indian men do this quite often and believe it makes them look cool because they can spend money. I've been told this by three providers who I have seen for awhile.[/QUOTE]I hope they all get caught by their wive $ and gfs LOL.

It feels like qll the women in Seattle are on tna or onlyfans LOL. There are some reasonable gems if you look hard sometimes, if you don't mind looks or traveling far. Only time will tell.

[QUOTE=BeaverHunter69;5191046]Ladies actually increased prices during the COVID thing because there are so many guys willing to pay higher prices for a piece of ass that they could easily get for hundreds less if they'd stop thinking with the little head.[/QUOTE]I have seen many and the donations haven't really changed for the ones that have been around, the new ones are trying to jump up prices and I say no, most come back with a reasonable amount, there was one that told me 200 for HH, I said no 100 for HH she went to 120 I said fine, and that includes BB right, she said another 50 for BB I offered 140 for BB and she agreed.

Have to be willing to walk away, have to play hardball.

[QUOTE=Jimmysixxx7;5190730]I do well in Phoenix too. I have two people I see there. I pay three hundred total and will see them every day I'm there, which three or four days. So I can fill two women a day for no more than 600 in total. Sometimes it works out to 80/ visit.[/QUOTE]Man. Not asking for a handout, but I travel to Phoenix pretty regularly and have no success there. There's some smokeshows like Adrianna but they're CFS.

[URL]https://sumosear.ch/images/webpage/my-place-80-incall-specials-4254265832ur-best-kept-secret/37003494[/URL]

Anyone know anything about this one? No face pics, body looks good, menu appears to show possibilities. Seen her ads forever, anyone have any info? Thanks.

[URL]https://sumosear.ch/images/webpage/north-seattle-incallspecials-80qv-120hh-170hr/36999662[/URL]

I remember a couple guys having luck with this one awhile back, then it appeared word spread and she says no bb at all on ads. Now I've seen that before in ads and it not be true. Sometimes they do actually change. Wondering if anyone has seen her lately? She's attractive and has a nice figure. I tried to see her awhile back but it was flaky at first then we just couldn't pin down a time and seemed too complicated. Sticks to me because always wonder if she is worth the hassle? Still advertising, decent rates and still looks good. So is she a gem or just another no bare services at all or YMMV (they all are) which is o. K too. Don't quote me, but if memory serves right? Looking for current info she looks fun but can't tell if she would be fun as hell or mechanical types, she is cute.

[URL]https://sumosear.ch/images/webpage/thick-hot-blonde-here-to-ease-your-mind-and-please-your-body/36942812[/URL]

I see this girls been posting since December. I tried contacting her, never responded. I know somebody knows something LOL. Anyone?

[QUOTE=Sticknmove;5191685][URL]https://sumosear.ch/images/webpage/my-place-80-incall-specials-4254265832ur-best-kept-secret/37003494[/URL]

Anyone know anything about this one? No face pics, body looks good, menu appears to show possibilities. Seen her ads forever, anyone have any info? Thanks.[/QUOTE]Tried to connect a few times slow to respond, still waiting to know what she will do, trying again.

[QUOTE=BeaverHunter69;5191046]Ladies actually increased prices during the COVID thing because there are so many guys willing to pay higher prices for a piece of ass that they could easily get for hundreds less if they'd stop thinking with the little head.[/QUOTE]Seems like every working girl I've talked to in the last year has told me business is down 90% or more. A few of them on my rotation hit me up between Election Day and New Years told me that business has gone to nothing at all.

Definitely less pussy is being purchased and sold these days.

I also think a lot of girls have left the biz entirely and moved back in with their ex or even their parents or are homeless.

[QUOTE=MarkoRamius;5192060]Seems like every working girl I've talked to in the last year has told me business is down 90% or more. A few of them on my rotation hit me up between Election Day and New Years told me that business has gone to nothing at all.

Definitely less pussy is being purchased and sold these days.

I also think a lot of girls have left the biz entirely and moved back in with their ex or even their parents or are homeless.[/QUOTE]Again, really dig your user name! Maybe use that submarine to "attack" these gals who charge ridiculous rates!

In any event, appreciate the information. If these women would just wise up and charge reasonable rates, their business would be a lot better. But, as Tom Hanks said in Forrest Gump, "Stupid is as stupid does."

[QUOTE=BrstMan;5191953]Tried to connect a few times slow to respond, still waiting to know what she will do, trying again.[/QUOTE]I have communicated with her but as you stated, communication is in and out. Rather that be me, in and out of course. She has given me address and we discussed a little bit about menu but not what this thread pertains to yet. At this point I just wonder if she is worth the hassle. Some girls are so busy because they are very good at what they do that they're always busy. Some give you the run around and when you finally meet them you wish you would've just kept it moving. I wonder if she even looks like the pictures body wise and also what her face looks like? Services?

[QUOTE=Jonderin;5191147]What happened on your first trip to Pattaya?[/QUOTE]Showed me what was really available in this hobby outside the USA. I got wifed up with a freelance girl from a disco within two hours of being in town and she stayed with me for 5 days. Only asked for about $300 USD but I gave her $500. All ports open with no restrictions and thankfully all tests results came back good afterwards.

What you can get in Pattaya vs just about anywhere else in the world is light years apart. Of course that was precovid. It's a virtual ghost town right now but I can't wait to get back.

[QUOTE=Jonderin;5191147]What happened on your first trip to Pattaya?[/QUOTE]I stayed at the Penthouse in Pattaya on my first trip there. Got picked up at the airport in Bangkok with a limo and had two girls in the back who kept me company on the 90 minute drive to the hotel. Then they came up to my room to help me unpack and unwind from my long trip.

The trip got better from there.

For my money, these days (well pre-covid) I usually go to Phuket or a place like Hua Hin. There isn't the same scene but there are no shortage of girls and nearly all of the hotels are cool with you having a "joiner" for the night. Also, I think the girls in the resort towns are generally quite a bit hotter than the ones in Pattaya or BKK.

[QUOTE=MartyByrde;5192081]Again, really dig your user name! Maybe use that submarine to "attack" these gals who charge ridiculous rates!...[/QUOTE]I've used this handle on a number of boards for the last ten years. You're one of about five who gets the reference. I used to go to this place in Spokane that required a sign-in, and I always used that name for sign in. All of the girls thought that was my real name.

[QUOTE=MarkoRamius;5192060]Seems like every working girl I've talked to in the last year has told me business is down 90% or more. A few of them on my rotation hit me up between Election Day and New Years told me that business has gone to nothing at all.

Definitely less pussy is being purchased and sold these days.

I also think a lot of girls have left the biz entirely and moved back in with their ex or even their parents or are homeless.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=MartyByrde;5192081]In any event, appreciate the information. If these women would just wise up and charge reasonable rates, their business would be a lot better. But, as Tom Hanks said in Forrest Gump, "Stupid is as stupid does."[/QUOTE]Honestly, I know of several providers who charge what I consider reasonable rates ($150-250/ hr), but with Covid and all the related economic uncertainty I'm not hobbying much right now, though I have succumb to temptation a couple times.

With so many unemployed many people just don't have much disposable income and there are probably others like me who are cautious. I told a provider who recently contacted me as much. Even though her rates are reasonable and I'm sorry she's broke, until I get vaccinated I'm on hiatus.

[QUOTE=MarkoRamius;5192797]I've used this handle on a number of boards for the last ten years. You're one of about five who gets the reference. I used to go to this place in Spokane that required a sign-in, and I always used that name for sign in. All of the girls thought that was my real name.[/QUOTE]"The Vilnius Schoolmaster"? If that doesn't get them hot nothing will.

[QUOTE=FastBreakJunk;5191350]Not this again.

If you aren't picky about looks and know where to look there are still plenty of decent providers charging about $250-300 hr, $150-250 half hr. In the past 6 most I've been contacted by a couple providers I haven't seen in more than a year who are desperate for money, so some have definitely taken a hit since Covid.[/QUOTE]Happy to oblige! Put $ in their pocket $ LOL!

[QUOTE=Sticknmove;5191715][URL]https://sumosear.ch/images/webpage/north-seattle-incallspecials-80qv-120hh-170hr/36999662[/URL]

I remember a couple guys having luck with this one awhile back, then it appeared word spread and she says no bb at all on ads. Now I've seen that before in ads and it not be true. Sometimes they do actually change. Wondering if anyone has seen her lately? She's attractive and has a nice figure. I tried to see her awhile back but it was flaky at first then we just couldn't pin down a time and seemed too complicated. Sticks to me because always wonder if she is worth the hassle? Still advertising, decent rates and still looks good. So is she a gem or just another no bare services at all or YMMV (they all are) which is o. K too. Don't quote me, but if memory serves right? Looking for current info she looks fun but can't tell if she would be fun as hell or mechanical types, she is cute.[/QUOTE]No bb, cim or kissing.

[QUOTE=MarkoRamius;5192794]I stayed at the Penthouse in Pattaya on my first trip there. Got picked up at the airport in Bangkok with a limo and had two girls in the back who kept me company on the 90 minute drive to the hotel. Then they came up to my room to help me unpack and unwind from my long trip.[/QUOTE]Captain Ramius, how did you arrange that on your first trip? The penthouse I get. But how did you arrange the limo with the amenities? Was it just waiting curbside? Or did you go through a service before boarding the flight?

[QUOTE=Diver6390;5193856]Captain Ramius, how did you arrange that on your first trip? The penthouse I get. But how did you arrange the limo with the amenities? Was it just waiting curbside? Or did you go through a service before boarding the flight?[/QUOTE]I believe you can arrange the limo, room and girls thru Devil Den, they are located next to Penhouse.

Devil Den is a hostess bar / sex club combo, not the best look girls but you can get whatever you want with enough baht.

[QUOTE=BarryMyRutner;5191037][URL]https://everett.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/caucasian_w/happy-hump-daywanna-play/926631592487[/URL]

Danii BBBJ and bbfscip. She is a bit heavier than pictures.[/QUOTE]I've been curious about this one. Not looking for this thread, but am curious how her service is and what she offers and for how much! Face doesn't look that great but body looks amazing! Reply here or PM with details please!

[QUOTE=Diver6390;5193856]Captain Ramius, how did you arrange that on your first trip? The penthouse I get. But how did you arrange the limo with the amenities? Was it just waiting curbside? Or did you go through a service before boarding the flight?[/QUOTE][URL]https://www.penthousehotel.com[/URL]

[URL]http://www.penthousehotel.com/taxi_and_limousine_to_pattaya_and_bangkok.html[/URL]

If I remember they comp'ed me that full package for some reason. It is kind of spendy for the airport ride and the booze and two girls in the back of the van. But kind of a once-in-a-lifetime thing to do. The driver made it really obvious that the girls were up for anything I wanted.

[QUOTE=MarkoRamius;5192794]I stayed at the Penthouse in Pattaya on my first trip there. Got picked up at the airport in Bangkok with a limo and had two girls in the back who kept me company on the 90 minute drive to the hotel. Then they came up to my room to help me unpack and unwind from my long trip.

The trip got better from there.

For my money, these days (well pre-covid) I usually go to Phuket or a place like Hua Hin. There isn't the same scene but there are no shortage of girls and nearly all of the hotels are cool with you having a "joiner" for the night. Also, I think the girls in the resort towns are generally quite a bit hotter than the ones in Pattaya or BKK.[/QUOTE]Haha. I remember the ads for penthouse. The hot tub room with the sex swing nearby. Never stayed there myself. I stayed at Secrets once and learned not to stay in a place that also has girls or a nightclub. The damned music kept me up until 3 AM. Only did stand-alone hotels after that. I need my sleep if I'm going to perform the next day.

I'm curious how things have changed. Last time I went to Pattaya in 2012 BB was not that hard to find but it was still hit or miss. You could convince some girls to go for it for an extra 500 baht (which was something like $10 USD back then) and some would agree if I bought them bc for a month while others who would stand by their guns. To get better service I would make little hints that I might be looking for a girlfriend or wife or seem agreeable when they ask you to sponsor. You could see their eyes light up with dollar signs like in the old Warner Brothers cartoons. And yet it was $40 to take a bar girl home at 6 and keep her until noon the next day. It was kind of the exact opposite of what Seattle is now. LOL.

My info on this lady?

[URL]https://everett.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/beautiful-busty-blonde-goddess/970358435937[/URL]

[QUOTE=MorganCreamin;5194062]

I'm curious how things have changed. Last time I went to Pattaya in 2012 BB was not that hard to find but it was still hit or miss. You could convince some girls to go for it for an extra 500 baht (which was something like $10 USD back then) and some would agree if I bought them bc for a month while others who would stand by their guns. To get better service I would make little hints that I might be looking for a girlfriend or wife or seem agreeable when they ask you to sponsor. You could see their eyes light up with dollar signs like in the old Warner Brothers cartoons. And yet it was $40 to take a bar girl home at 6 and keep her until noon the next day. It was kind of the exact opposite of what Seattle is now. LOL.[/QUOTE]Last trip for me was in 2018. BB isn't always available but can be found and mostly depends on your vetting process and connection with the girl. Prices (precovid) had dramatically increased over the last few years due to a change in the tourist demographic. Lots of cashed up Asians, mostly Korean and Japanese, dropping big money on ladies.

For a top end GoGo girl you're looking at 3000 bhat for St and 5000 if not more for LT. Add in the barfine and lady drinks and it can get expensive. Beer bars are still a good spot if you don't want to save some money but you're trading looks for that savings in most cases.

I'm a member of a Pattaya base forum so I stay fairly well updated on what's happening over there. It's been pretty tough on some of the girls and bars over there. They just did a second look down recently and reopened about two days ago.

[QUOTE=Camhole;5194645]Last trip for me was in 2018. BB isn't always available but can be found and mostly depends on your vetting process and connection with the girl. Prices (precovid) had dramatically increased over the last few years due to a change in the tourist demographic. Lots of cashed up Asians, mostly Korean and Japanese, dropping big money on ladies.

For a top end GoGo girl you're looking at 3000 bhat for St and 5000 if not more for LT. Add in the barfine and lady drinks and it can get expensive. Beer bars are still a good spot if you don't want to save some money but you're trading looks for that savings in most cases.

I'm a member of a Pattaya base forum so I stay fairly well updated on what's happening over there. It's been pretty tough on some of the girls and bars over there. They just did a second look down recently and reopened about two days ago.[/QUOTE]Yeah, that's a big jump. My last visit it was 1500-2000 for a bar girl for LT and 2500-3000 for a gogo girl LT. I usually found the bar girls more open and compliant so I'd go up and down walking street looking for the better looking ones. Soi 6 was also a good option for cheap ST as well.