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[QUOTE=Orl Woodpecker;1560020]You can't record the conversation because Florida law prohibits you from recording unless both parties agree to it.[/QUOTE]This isn't entirely true. Yes, Florida is a two-party consent state, but there is an exemption for cases where there is no expectation of privacy (for example, in public). That's not to say that the police won't give you crap for it, just that you could probably get away with it in court.
[url]http://gizmodo.com/5900680/7-rules-for-recording-police[/url]
[url]http://www.citmedialaw.org/legal-guide/florida-recording-law[/url]
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Your 100% correct
[QUOTE=Orl Woodpecker; 1560020]If it's the Orange County SO, they will demean you, threaten arrest, tell you they will call your family, and detain you for a long time in as public place as they can easily put you in. If you refuse to answer ANY of their questions, they will call you a smartass who refuses to cooperate.
You would think those things can't happen in our country. You will be outnumbered by the number of deputies, so everything will be your word against theirs. You can't record the conversation because Florida law prohibits you from recording unless both parties agree to it.
The information Very Slowly provides below is good, but how many of us keep an attorney on call. Also, his statement about signing a statement and being let go is a little confusing. Do not sign any statement of guilt. If you do, you will go to jail, no matter what they promised you. I think that is what VS was stating.[/QUOTE]Thank you, and what you're saying about getting orally intimidated and roughed up is absolutely correct and they break most mongers easily, not everyone watches cops on TV or reads this board. You don't need an attorney at that time, just don't answer any questions until there is one present, once you ask for an attorney they are done, no more questions, now it's up to them to prove the crime or let you go or arrest you, if you shut up the crime is very hard to prove. If you are arrested you will have plenty of time to get an attorney.
I reread it and it could be confusing. What I meant to say is that they will try to get you to write a statement telling the truth and incriminating the girl and yourself and they will lie to you and tell you if you do, that they will let you go. They are allowed to lie to you, the Supreme Court has ruled on this. Make no statements, write no words "telling your side of the story", sign no papers what so ever. If they arrest you the burden of proof is on them to prove your crime, the cops gather the evidence and turn it over to the prosecutors who determine if the evidence is strong enough to go forward with an information (the formal charges) or file a no information (laymen call this dropped charges) , this happens after your arrest.
They are allowed to detain you for a reasonable amount of time while they "investigate" which means while they try and get you and / or the girl to incriminate yourselves. After a reasonable amount of time (Lets say 45 min, you may ask if you're going to be arrested and if not, are you free to go.) Depending on how much time they want to take to break you down and what else is happening at that time on the trail or elsewhere this time varies greatly. This is all assuming that you have no warrants, no illegal firearms, no drugs in your possession and have given them no reasonable cause to search your vehicle. They will ask you if you have any needles in your pockets or in your possession and will 'pat you down" for weapons under the guise of officer safety while they are investigating. Hope none of you go through it but if you pick up SW's chances are it's only a matter of time, so you had best be prepared by knowing your rights, not by trying to BS them that you were just offering this chick in the hot-pants with big ta-ta's a ride at 1 AM on Tuesday morning. You know whats up they know whats up but only YOU can help them prove it. Hope this made it clearer
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Advice.
VS is exactly right.
I had the misfortune 1 time to have direct contact with LEO with a DWI when I was 21 and I would have saved myself a lot of headaches just by asking for a lawyer right away. It was a weird deal not worth going into all the details, but I will tell that is great advice. Ask for an attorney and shut up. Trust me they will blink first.
Stay safe.
[QUOTE=VerySlowly; 1560108]Thank you, and what you're saying about getting orally intimidated and roughed up is absolutely correct and they break most mongers easily, not everyone watches cops on TV or reads this board. You don't need an attorney at that time, just don't answer any questions until there is one present, once you ask for an attorney they are done, no more questions, now it's up to them to prove the crime or let you go or arrest you, if you shut up the crime is very hard to prove. If you are arrested you will have plenty of time to get an attorney.
I reread it and it could be confusing. What I meant to say is that they will try to get you to write a statement telling the truth and incriminating the girl and yourself and they will lie to you and tell you if you do, that they will let you go. They are allowed to lie to you, the Supreme Court has ruled on this. Make no statements, write no words "telling your side of the story", sign no papers what so ever. If they arrest you the burden of proof is on them to prove your crime, the cops gather the evidence and turn it over to the prosecutors who determine if the evidence is strong enough to go forward with an information (the formal charges) or file a no information (laymen call this dropped charges) , this happens after your arrest.
They are allowed to detain you for a reasonable amount of time while they "investigate" which means while they try and get you and / or the girl to incriminate yourselves. After a reasonable amount of time (Lets say 45 min, you may ask if you're going to be arrested and if not, are you free to go.) Depending on how much time they want to take to break you down and what else is happening at that time on the trail or elsewhere this time varies greatly. This is all assuming that you have no warrants, no illegal firearms, no drugs in your possession and have given them no reasonable cause to search your vehicle. They will ask you if you have any needles in your pockets or in your possession and will 'pat you down" for weapons under the guise of officer safety while they are investigating. Hope none of you go through it but if you pick up SW's chances are it's only a matter of time, so you had best be prepared by knowing your rights, not by trying to BS them that you were just offering this chick in the hot-pants with big ta-ta's a ride at 1 AM on Tuesday morning. You know whats up they know whats up but only YOU can help them prove it. Hope this made it clearer[/QUOTE]
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Cops do lie
[QUOTE=John Wise;1559939]If you get pulled over in Detroit with a "Known Prostitute" in your car, they just pull you over, let her walk, and put what ever they want on the police report to bust you. They don't need real evidence, they just lie and make up their own. Gun and a badge my friend, gun and a badge.[/QUOTE]Cops can and will lie about probable cause. They will say you fit some description, you are coming from the direction of a disturbance, or that their dog alerted. Any of these reasons will give them the right to question you or search your person or car. Now if it goes to court who will the judge believe; you or the cop.
There was a study done on drug dogs being wrong about 60% of the time. What the study found was the dog wasn't wrong it was that the cops lied about the dogs alerting. If the dogs alert the cops have probable cause to search you or your vehicle. So cops would lie to the person so they could search. It was interesting that the dogs were wrong more often with minority suspects; some thought the dogs were racial profiling. However, it was discovered the cops would use that lie to search minorities more often. And then they wouldn't find any drugs so the researchers thought the dogs were wrong. But it was found that it was the cops that were lying about the alert reponse. And when it gets to court the judge almost always takes the cops word over the suspect.
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Sara
[url]http://tampa.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/bootylicious-superstar-available-now-dont-miss-out-26/7975143[/url]
Turn and walk away from this gal!
No fuck that. Just start running as fast as you can till she's out of your sight!
This is serious shit mongers!
This BBW may look very tempting to many but AVOID her like the plague.
She's advertising on BP up in Tampa now!
God help the mongers in Tampa that don't read this forum, as they will not know what hit them after crossing her path loooking for a good time.
Orlando is her home town but I'm guessing she got ran out of Orlando due to the awareness on the streets of her issue at hand.
Some of the more seasoned OBT 441 cruzing mongers may know all to well exactly who she is.
If she's found her way back onto BP, won't be long before she may pop back up here in Orlando
I can provide info to a link of her that will surely save you and have you thanking God you passed her up.
None of that Seniors only BS with this info! This info is available to all via PM only though.
I apologize in advance if I'm not able to return your PM's asap due to my inbox being full but I will try to keep the inbox free an get back with you soon.
Happy Hunting and stay safe! OP
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Goold Old Sara "Brandon"
[QUOTE=OldPumper; 1561492][url]http://tampa.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/bootylicious-superstar-available-now-dont-miss-out-26/7975143[/url]
Turn and walk away from this gal!
No fuck that. Just start running as fast as you can till she's out of your sight!
This is serious shit mongers!
This BBW may look very tempting to many but AVOID her like the plague.
She's advertising on BP up in Tampa now!
God help the mongers in Tampa that don't read this forum, as they will not know what hit them after crossing her path loooking for a good time.
Orlando is her home town but I'm guessing she got ran out of Orlando due to the awareness on the streets of her issue at hand.
Some of the more seasoned OBT 441 cruzing mongers may know all to well exactly who she is.
If she's found her way back onto BP, won't be long before she may pop back up here in Orlando
I can provide info to a link of her that will surely save you and have you thanking God you passed her up.
None of that Seniors only BS with this info! This info is available to all via PM only though.
I apologize in advance if I'm not able to return your PM's asap due to my inbox being full but I will try to keep the inbox free an get back with you soon.
Happy Hunting and stay safe! OP[/QUOTE]The infamous Sara Brandon.
I heard the dope boys ran her out of Orlando. Now she is in Tampa.
They will run her out of Tampa soon.
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Bonnie
Took a cruise down OBT yesterday around 4pm and got rainned out. Pulled over for a bite and as soon as the rain slowed down the talent came out in numbers. Picked up Bonnie on Nash and Miller. Skinny WSW with black hair and a stripper white dress and a blue umbrella. Good CBJ (covered at my request) for. 2.
Here's the rub, if you pick Bonnie take her to your safe spot, not hers. As I was pulling into a spot that I like to use she started freeking out saying that cops hang out there and she didn't want to go there. She "knew" a better spot (some park off Rio Grande across from a school with only 1 way in and out of parking, easy to block off). She told me where to turn and as we turn she made eye contact with a D-boy hanging out on the corner store and he nooded. She showed me where to park and I scooped it out, turned where I could pull out fast and waited 1 min before telling her that I didn't like that spot. She seem upset that I was moving but as we came back towards Rio Grande the D-boy was already walking half way to her "safe spot", I waved at him as we drove by and she wouldn't make eye contact with me. Went to another spot I use and she performed like a champ with no complaints.
Stay safe.
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Thanks!
[QUOTE=OldPumper; 1561492][url]http://tampa.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/bootylicious-superstar-available-now-dont-miss-out-26/7975143[/url]
Turn and walk away from this gal!
No fuck that. Just start running as fast as you can till she's out of your sight!
This is serious shit mongers!
This BBW may look very tempting to many but AVOID her like the plague.
She's advertising on BP up in Tampa now!
God help the mongers in Tampa that don't read this forum, as they will not know what hit them after crossing her path loooking for a good time.
Orlando is her home town but I'm guessing she got ran out of Orlando due to the awareness on the streets of her issue at hand.
Some of the more seasoned OBT 441 cruzing mongers may know all to well exactly who she is.
If she's found her way back onto BP, won't be long before she may pop back up here in Orlando
I can provide info to a link of her that will surely save you and have you thanking God you passed her up.
None of that Seniors only BS with this info! This info is available to all via PM only though.
I apologize in advance if I'm not able to return your PM's asap due to my inbox being full but I will try to keep the inbox free an get back with you soon.
Happy Hunting and stay safe! OP[/QUOTE]Thanks OP,
I posted this over in the Tampa board as well. Feel free to pm me to what her issue is. I don't have time right now to search the Orlando board.
Thanks, Rook
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Obt 10/4 early am
Well, I just happened to leave early 4am) for the airport so thought I would try to relieve a little pressure before my flight. Started the cruise in Kissimmee, but saw nothing before the Turnpike. Once north of there, saw three BMW, one spinner two a little chunky together, but not my style so didn't slow down. Just past Best Buy I saw two, one slim spinner typ BSW that looked good, but she got scooped before I could get turned around. The second, a WDW was in the lot of the gas station across from the mall. A little thick, but nice enough. A 7 on the SW scale. Wearing painted on short shorts. Picked her up, quick LEO check and negotiated 25 with a 10 tip for swallow. Good effort, long, slow strokes, not too wet and no tooth interference! No name or digits, sorry, but was heading out of town! In Atlanta now and hope to catch another good time soon. I'm baaaaack!
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Kristen
Picked up a young WSW around 12:30am today. She said her name was Kristen and was at the corner of Wakulla next to the construction fence. She was walking from Oakridge with guy who sits across the street. Maybe still in her teens, short blond hair, average height, clean, nice chest, and looks the part. Very good BBBJCIM for only $25. Had a phone, but didn't bother with digits. Said she doesn't want to get 'known', so she comes and goes at different times.
There was also a lot of activity on 18th with about 5 girls walking around, but then leo pounced on someone on a bike, a half dozen cruisers showed up, and the girls left. Keep an eye out for a skinny blond wearing all black. Good luck.
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Interesting night.
After work, I took a spin near the vicinity of Cleo's and there seemed to be plenty of action around with little Popo in sight.
Unfortunately, most of the decent talent stayed on the trail and I refuse to pickup on the main road (especially girls I don't know)
Cruised through the cross streets and snatched up a little blonde WSW.
She said she knew of me from one of my regulars (that just happens to be in jail right now).
I still did a quick LEO check and she was ok with going to one of my safe spots that's like 15 minutes away.
She wanted to grab sumthin to eat first, so I took her out to Orange Ave. Cause I try not to stop on the trail for anything once I have a girl in my car.
After we got to my spot, I told her to take her time eating and that I wasn't in any rush (unfortunately, I had yanked it once in the morning and once more before leaving work, so I needed a little time to rest).
Ended up falling asleep and she felt comfortable enough to cuddle, which was fine by me (I'm kooky like that)
She had just gotten out of the shower before I picked her up and smelled really good, so it wasn't like I was spooning with some filthy working girl.
As she snored, she pretty much let me fondle her in every which way I could (always fun).
3 friggin hours passed by and it felt like 20 minutes!
Stepped out to take a piss and figured it was time to get it on, so I gently woke her up.
03 for a so so BBBJCIM (she was still a bit groggy) , but I kinda liked the semi-GFE time, so it was well worth it to me.
Will most likely repeat just to hit it, but I'm hoping next time we're both up for it.
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Where is the up vote button? (Reddit reference) Great post, thanks. .
[QUOTE=OtownCruiser; 1563726]After work, I took a spin near the vicinity of Cleo's and there seemed to be plenty of action around with little Popo in sight.
Unfortunately, most of the decent talent stayed on the trail and I refuse to pickup on the main road (especially girls I don't know)
Cruised through the cross streets and snatched up a little blonde WSW.
She said she knew of me from one of my regulars (that just happens to be in jail right now).
I still did a quick LEO check and she was ok with going to one of my safe spots that's like 15 minutes away.
She wanted to grab sumthin to eat first, so I took her out to Orange Ave. Cause I try not to stop on the trail for anything once I have a girl in my car.
After we got to my spot, I told her to take her time eating and that I wasn't in any rush (unfortunately, I had yanked it once in the morning and once more before leaving work, so I needed a little time to rest).
Ended up falling asleep and she felt comfortable enough to cuddle, which was fine by me (I'm kooky like that)
She had just gotten out of the shower before I picked her up and smelled really good, so it wasn't like I was spooning with some filthy working girl.
As she snored, she pretty much let me fondle her in every which way I could (always fun).
3 friggin hours passed by and it felt like 20 minutes!
Stepped out to take a piss and figured it was time to get it on, so I gently woke her up.
03 for a so so BBBJCIM (she was still a bit groggy) , but I kinda liked the semi-GFE time, so it was well worth it to me.
Will most likely repeat just to hit it, but I'm hoping next time we're both up for it.[/QUOTE]
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What the flip
Last night was the first nite I was like, I'm going to do this.
12am hit the trail, driving. Saw this WSW but really was a BSW, there was more make up to cake her face to make her look white then the rest of her body, slowed down and saw some nice rashes on her legs. Yea pass on that, I wanted to throw the change in my cup at her to get her off the street.
I got so damn thirsty, I mistaken a palm tree near florida mall for a SW. So I texted lexi by seaworld, go over, waited, said 130am, turned it her not texting until 2am saying she can meet at 3am, not happening.
Hit the trial one last time, saw a WSW that was so doped out and high strung (think of the paranoid guy on southpark tv) anyways it was dead last nite, went home and rubbed it out myself.
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Katie
Made a friend. 3am Saturday westmoreland just south of colonial. Super pleasant. Not a hardcore drug user which is what I prefer (though hard to find) rather she is more of a drunk. In her thirties, blond, attractive for an SW. Laid back, super low maintainence. Walks around that time on that route or very early. From the melbourne coast. Worth a meeting. Phone stolen so no #