Rants, Raves and Opinions AKA "The Octagon"

[QUOTE=Lenny6746;5210386]Lets talk about that for a min. Some of these mongers don't understand what probable cause is. LEO cannot pull any vehicle over unless they have it. They will run your plates that's all they can do and always do. They cannot pull you over just because you drive a type make of car or truck. They cannot pull you over if you pick someone up. They have to have probable cause. If you do a moving violation yes they can. Not using turn signals yes they can. Tail lights or head lights out yes they can. If you have warrants of course they will. I own 4 cars and trucks so witch one?? In the fall I picked up one of my regular girls. A Hamilton LEO pulled up right behind me as I picked her up. She got in and I pulled away he followed me ran my plates and turned off. He had no probable cause to pull me over. So keep posting your stupid shit. Lenny6746.[/QUOTE]Yours is on display. Hey everyone, next time you need a lawyer, better call Lenny so he can lawsplain it all to the nice LEO that pulled you over for picking up a hooker.

I mean this sincerely Lenny: You're pretty fucking stupid. Just saying. I'm sure you've heard that a lot.

[QUOTE=DickMorehead;5209428]Rogerover reminds me totally of my Ex, a know it all *****. Lenny, keep posting relevent posts. That MF never does![/QUOTE]I'll bet that's the Ex you keep jerking off to, isn't it? Gay. Nothing wrong with that though, I don't judge.

[QUOTE=Lenny6746;5210386]Lets talk about that for a min. Some of these mongers don't understand what probable cause is. LEO cannot pull any vehicle over unless they have it. They will run your plates that's all they can do and always do. They cannot pull you over just because you drive a type make of car or truck. They cannot pull you over if you pick someone up. They have to have probable cause. If you do a moving violation yes they can. Not using turn signals yes they can. Tail lights or head lights out yes they can. If you have warrants of course they will. I own 4 cars and trucks so witch one?? In the fall I picked up one of my regular girls. A Hamilton LEO pulled up right behind me as I picked her up. She got in and I pulled away he followed me ran my plates and turned off. He had no probable cause to pull me over. So keep posting your stupid shit. Lenny6746.[/QUOTE]Uh uh. As a former California Peace Officer, let me say one thing to refute what Lenny said: If a LEO knows the vehicle code as one should, they can walk into a showroom of brand new vehicles from Detroit, Japan or Korea (or where ever), and find vehicle code violations. If a LEO is any good, he or she will find PC to pull you over. Maybe that is not fair, but a proactive LEO can (and do) do that. Just FYI.

Nytehawk.

Rogerover wants to date me on here she can't keep her mouth shut. Of course. Too many dicks in there in the past and present keeps it open. I decline your offer for sex. Use your burner phone or you can borrow Horny as hells burner he likes to give it out. To find a dude of your choice. Look out he may ad you to his harem of working girls. Don't be afraid he won't give out your digits either. He's good for that too. LOL. Game over I'm moving on.

Some time ago I decided not to travel to get good hookers. Now that the prices have increased for substandard females in the US, travelling abroad is appealing again. I can travel to a foreign country, get an attractive woman who doesn't look like the tattooed circus freak, and see her all day for less than many of the ones available today charge for a short visit. I cannot wait for COVID to stop.

[QUOTE=Lenny6746;5210386]Lets talk about that for a min. Some of these mongers don't understand what probable cause is. LEO cannot pull any vehicle over unless they have it. They will run your plates that's all they can do and always do. They cannot pull you over just because you drive a type make of car or truck. They cannot pull you over if you pick someone up. They have to have probable cause. If you do a moving violation yes they can. Not using turn signals yes they can. Tail lights or head lights out yes they can. If you have warrants of course they will. I own 4 cars and trucks so witch one?? In the fall I picked up one of my regular girls. A Hamilton LEO pulled up right behind me as I picked her up. She got in and I pulled away he followed me ran my plates and turned off. He had no probable cause to pull me over. So keep posting your stupid shit. Lenny6746.[/QUOTE]I guess I just imagined getting pulled over on State in LPH. I had been pulled over at curb checking my phone, looking for a provider to respond. And when I pulled out I drove to the end of state at the light, as soon as I turned I got lit up by 2 cops. They said I was pulled over because my car had been spotted in an area frequented by drug dealers and prostitutes. They had no probable cause, didn't matter, still pulled me over and searched I'm sure would have gotten popped if I had anything on me.

So Lenny's one of those guys that makes his stops as obvious as possible because he believes he can say "I was talking to my friend" or "she was looking for a ride" and be scott-free.

[QUOTE=Lenny6746;5210386]Lets talk about that for a min. Some of these mongers don't understand what probable cause is. LEO cannot pull any vehicle over unless they have it. They will run your plates that's all they can do and always do. They cannot pull you over just because you drive a type make of car or truck. They cannot pull you over if you pick someone up. They have to have probable cause. If you do a moving violation yes they can. Not using turn signals yes they can. Tail lights or head lights out yes they can. If you have warrants of course they will. I own 4 cars and trucks so witch one?? In the fall I picked up one of my regular girls. A Hamilton LEO pulled up right behind me as I picked her up. She got in and I pulled away he followed me ran my plates and turned off. He had no probable cause to pull me over. So keep posting your stupid shit. Lenny6746.[/QUOTE]I do not mean to jump on the Lenny bash bandwagon but I have to do so in this case.

Lenny, I am friends with a few police officers, you are correct on one point, they do need probable cause.

What you fail to realize, is that whenever they want to pull someone over, they can simply make up probable cause.

The car crossed the yellow line, the car was swerving a little, the driver looked suspicious, any number of reasons.

[QUOTE=RogerOver;5210530]I'll bet that's the Ex you keep jerking off to, isn't it? Gay. Nothing wrong with that though, I don't judge.[/QUOTE]That makes nos sense dipstick! Woman with a dick. You can have surgery to fix that biatch. That's ok too I guess honey.

[QUOTE=Denko;5210963]I guess I just imagined getting pulled over on State in LPH. I had been pulled over at curb checking my phone, looking for a provider to respond. And when I pulled out I drove to the end of state at the light, as soon as I turned I got lit up by 2 cops. They said I was pulled over because my car had been spotted in an area frequented by drug dealers and prostitutes. They had no probable cause, didn't matter, still pulled me over and searched I'm sure would have gotten popped if I had anything on me.[/QUOTE]I did home health care in Dayton. Never turned down a client because of location. I was profiled, 2 separate occasions I was pulled over leaving shady areas. Cops were upfront, wanted to know what my business was in that area. White guy, nice car (nice being relative), just a Corolla. I checked out and was on my way. Another time, I was parked legally on the street, completing documentation, startled by cop knocking on my window to check me out. I didn't like it, but glad I had a legitimate excuse.

[QUOTE=MontyCliff;5211291]I did home health care in Dayton. Never turned down a client because of location. I was profiled, 2 separate occasions I was pulled over leaving shady areas. Cops were upfront, wanted to know what my business was in that area. White guy, nice car (nice being relative), just a Corolla. I checked out and was on my way. Another time, I was parked legally on the street, completing documentation, startled by cop knocking on my window to check me out. I didn't like it, but glad I had a legitimate excuse.[/QUOTE]One of my jobs when I started mongering was as a property assessor. That business card gave me carte blance permission to be in any neighbourhood at any time because when a cop stopped me, I would hand him my card, told him I was looking at neighbourhoods "to assess a baseline value for all properties for tax appreciation or depreciation". It was complete bullshit, but they didn't know that and it sounded official. When pressed I just said it was part of my job to figure out the average value of houses and with make tax valuations. Not one time did a cop ever ask me, "Can't that be done by looking at recent housing purchases on record? Because that's how it's usually done, with a few keystrokes on a computer. If they ask me why so late, I just start complaining about my boss who decided to change the deadline as to when I must submit my appraisals, and end with, "Bosses are such bullshit so now I got to do it in my off hours. ". Grammatically wrong, but it seems to hit a switch in the brain because everyone has had that same type of boss. From suspect, I am now a comrade-at-arms.

Believably is 10% what you say, 40% how you sound when saying it, and 50% how you look when you're saying something.

[QUOTE=DNut;5211315] Believably is 10% what you say, 40% how you sound when saying it, and 50% how you look when you're saying something.[/QUOTE]I learned that a long time ago the art of telling a narrative you want others to believe! I made good $ in the 90's selling people what would make me the most $ on commission and incentives. I once was told I could sell ice to Eskimos at the North Pole by coworkers and district manager! Eye contact and voice fluctuation are the key! If you have to tell a lie never look a person in the eyes if you can't keep the contact when you lie! When asked something that hits close to the truth never change your facial expression!

When I have been pulled over or have been approached I try to keep it respectful and play a bit dumb to what is going on in that area if I am there for nefarious reasons!

[QUOTE=ThatGuy011;5210998]So Lenny's one of those guys that makes his stops as obvious as possible because he believes he can say "I was talking to my friend" or "she was looking for a ride" and be scott-free.[/QUOTE]And that's AFTER dropping off all the hot chicks from FB that give that smooth operator the free pussy!

[QUOTE=BaldSanta;5211738]I visited last week and was disappointed. I couldn't place the smell or the taste but it was not pleasant. I left before my time was up due to the issue. She seemed like a sweet girl, I hope she figures it out.[/QUOTE]I could only do BBBJ, never even thought about daty, did have her get on the couch in doggy and tried for a few strokes but there was the bad angle from my height and the odor so went back to BJ. It wasn't like knock you over bad, but it was enough and it wasn't maple syrup.

My hats off to your fortitude. To encounter the smell and still go in for the taste is the true mark of a soldier!

[QUOTE=PearishBA;5212172]I could only do BBBJ, never even thought about daty, did have her get on the couch in doggy and tried for a few strokes but there was the bad angle from my height and the odor so went back to BJ. It wasn't like knock you over bad, but it was enough and it wasn't maple syrup.

My hats off to your fortitude. To encounter the smell and still go in for the taste is the true mark of a soldier![/QUOTE]LOL. Or true mark of a crazy person, no offense BaldSanta. I'd have to be pretty damn desperate to go down on Peaches. Like end of the world desperate. For one thing, she's frigging huge. When I saw her I wasn't quite prepared for her size. Another, she's been peddling that ass for a long time now. Way too risky. You could wrap her in 12 layers of cling wrap and I still wouldn't chance it.

Bengalman exclaimed I miss her so much!! I thought you only went with high end girls?? After you trying to bash me for 20 dollar girls right?? Well when you live in a glass house don't throw stones. I knew Beautiful Becky as she called herself. I knew her well she lived with me and as you know I don't use condoms That's just me so you also were with a 40 dollar girl and she charged you 100 right. That's Becky she had a trailer in Fairfield and a old house in Hamillton and a House in Forrestpark. She's another one that stopped charging me then she took off to California. She's a addict if you didn't know it H is her drug of choice. Your the same as I am the difference is I know what I'm fucking.

Hello How does an AMP like White Oak shopping center survive?

Thanks.

[QUOTE=DoctorAl;5228550]Hello How does an AMP like White Oak shopping center survive?

Thanks.[/QUOTE]Not clear what AMP you're talking about. There's the White Oak area on the west side of Cincy, map zoom searching the area is not showing shopping centers by that name. And there was a "White Oak Shopping Center" north of Dayton. Never been there myself, just did some searches comparing old and current online maps. Its showing that building area is now "Living Word Church".

Are you asking how an AMP can survive when Jesus is nearby?

[QUOTE=PearishBA;5229030]Not clear what AMP you're talking about. There's the White Oak area on the west side of Cincy, map zoom searching the area is not showing shopping centers by that name. And there was a "White Oak Shopping Center" north of Dayton. Never been there myself, just did some searches comparing old and current online maps. Its showing that building area is now "Living Word Church".

Are you asking how an AMP can survive when Jesus is nearby?[/QUOTE]The strip mall he is referring to is called the "White Oak Center" and the specific venue is Chinese Touch Massage.

Chinese Spa Shopping Center Cheviot Road White Oak shopping center All all reviews say.

Massage Only.

[QUOTE=PearishBA;5229030]Not clear what AMP you're talking about. There's the White Oak area on the west side of Cincy, map zoom searching the area is not showing shopping centers by that name. And there was a "White Oak Shopping Center" north of Dayton. Never been there myself, just did some searches comparing old and current online maps. Its showing that building area is now "Living Word Church".

Are you asking how an AMP can survive when Jesus is nearby?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Mlive123;5229051]The strip mall he is referring to is called the "White Oak Center" and the specific venue is Chinese Touch Massage.[/QUOTE]Thanks for clarifying, haven't been there yet. Which makes the original survival question either very good or bad. Are we talking good as in crazy fucking under disco ball lights all day? Or bad as in ugly girls giving legit massages?

-PM me if its the former.

[QUOTE=Lenny6746;5228151]Bengalman exclaimed I miss her so much!! I thought you only went with high end girls?? After you trying to bash me for 20 dollar girls right?? Well when you live in a glass house don't throw stones. I knew Beautiful Becky as she called herself. I knew her well she lived with me and as you know I don't use condoms That's just me so you also were with a 40 dollar girl and she charged you 100 right. That's Becky she had a trailer in Fairfield and a old house in Hamillton and a House in Forrestpark. She's another one that stopped charging me then she took off to California. She's a addict if you didn't know it H is her drug of choice. Your the same as I am the difference is I know what I'm fucking.[/QUOTE]Thanks for clarifying.

Beautiful Becky had the finest ass and sweetest tasting pussy. So beautiful.

And then came Lenny.

[QUOTE=DoctorAl;5229054]Chinese Spa Shopping Center Cheviot Road White Oak shopping center All all reviews say.

Massage Only.[/QUOTE]Ok didn't see your previous post when I made my previous for some reason. Based on my experience, I think there are alot fewer of these 'legit' AMPs than you would think based on reading reviews. Sorry to say, but some guys getting the extras will post bad reviews to help ensure their lunchtime getaways don't get too crowded. Other times there can be clues to the truth in their descriptions and exaggerations. It can be hard knowing when to read between the lines. My personal take is that defeats the mission here. The investigations that get these places closed down start with complaints from the community, not reading our posts. Uncle comes here to help confirm his suspicions if at all. And by that point the place is probably on the way out so why not always just tell it like it is.

To the extent that there are AMPs with no extras, they require a steady diet of ugly guys with lousy sex lives, low expectations, and eternal optimism. LOL Most of the time going home unhappy comes down to guys expecting their money to open all the doors. Hygiene matters, being groomed, being in at least decent shape and appearance, and having the nerve and ability to flirt and tease. Don't just lay there, and if she doesn't warm up to your touching and talking get up and leave, and don't come back. Survival problem solved.

I have 3 UTRs but my favorite is one that disappeared for a while then I found her about 18 months ago. Been coming to see me twice a week without fail. Beautiful girl. Not just beautiful for a provider but damn good looking period. Whole time she's had a boyfriend, live in, but abusive. No I'm not being a white knight. I looked up his record and he is a bad dude. She has shown me texts he has sent her saying he was going to kill her. Shown up at my place with cuts and bruises. She moved in with her parents but he just stalks her and waits out front. He is aware of me finally after going through her phone. He's not sure what the deal is as she has told him that I am a family member but he suspects. Sends me texts with her phone pretending to be her but her and I have a code so I know when it actually is her. Her father begs her to call the police but she is afraid of him and so is her father and the times the police have been called they do nothing. Its a real small dept. I even on the sly talked to the police about him and they told me that yes he is a really bad person. Bad criminal record for abuse. So now when she can get away from the house or him she'll pop up here basically with about and hour notice. Whole time she is at my place looking outside to see if he somehow followed her to my place. Some will know her name from back when she was a provider on the H. She isn't now. I ran into her at her legit job and couldn't believe how good she looked. She really is a beautiful girl. Her and I talked several times and she said she doesn't do that anymore but agreed to just one time. That was over 18 months ago. Still says she feels guilty but always came over. Just afraid something is going to go really bad with this crazy boyfriend. She now texts me about once a week. She literally has to sneak out of her parents house at night to come to my place and then is afraid he is following her. He of course has no job. At first I wasn't buying all the crap she was saying but getting to know who he is and what I have seen I believe her. I think they may reach a point where she won't contact me or show up anymore because of this nutcase.

[QUOTE=Hooter12;5236993]I have 3 UTRs but my favorite is one that disappeared for a while then I found her about 18 months ago. Been coming to see me twice a week without fail. Beautiful girl. Not just beautiful for a provider but damn good looking period. Whole time she's had a boyfriend, live in, but abusive. No I'm not being a white knight. I looked up his record and he is a bad dude. She has shown me texts he has sent her saying he was going to kill her. Shown up at my place with cuts and bruises. She moved in with her parents but he just stalks her and waits out front. He is aware of me finally after going through her phone. He's not sure what the deal is as she has told him that I am a family member but he suspects. Sends me texts with her phone pretending to be her but her and I have a code so I know when it actually is her. Her father begs her to call the police but she is afraid of him and so is her father and the times the police have been called they do nothing. Its a real small dept. I even on the sly talked to the police about him and they told me that yes he is a really bad person. Bad criminal record for abuse. So now when she can get away from the house or him she'll pop up here basically with about and hour notice. Whole time she is at my place looking outside to see if he somehow followed her to my place. Some will know her name from back when she was a provider on the H. She isn't now. I ran into her at her legit job and couldn't believe how good she looked. She really is a beautiful girl. Her and I talked several times and she said she doesn't do that anymore but agreed to just one time. That was over 18 months ago. Still says she feels guilty but always came over. Just afraid something is going to go really bad with this crazy boyfriend. She now texts me about once a week. She literally has to sneak out of her parents house at night to come to my place and then is afraid he is following her. He of course has no job. At first I wasn't buying all the crap she was saying but getting to know who he is and what I have seen I believe her. I think they may reach a point where she won't contact me or show up anymore because of this nutcase.[/QUOTE]As good as it is to be the shoulder she runs to and fucks, I'd sever ties instead of waiting for her to. Pretty and damaged is a seductive combination for guys, we're wired to fuck and protect. But given her provider history, drug history, guy history, only professional help is going to fix what puts her into these situations. The safest bet is that history is going to keep repeating itself and anyone that doesn't want to get sucked in should get out of the way. Unless you're the type that likes starring in your own soap opera, possibly ending with serious injury or worse to you.

Just realized it's now been a full 10 years since I've been back in the hobby. It was around March 2011 that I broke the ice by going to see Gypsy Rae (there's a blast to the past for those who have been around a while). I saw her in a crappy notel, but the environment didn't change the fact that she was hot and about 20 years younger than me, which was all it took for the hobby to sink its hooks into me.

I've tried getting out of the hobby at different points, but apart from COVID, never could stay away for long. I've done the math before on how much I can remember spending in the past 5 years or so. The number wasn't pretty. Maybe someday, when I feel like a glutton for punishment, I'll do my best estimate on how much I've spent over the full 10 years. But what's the point, as I haven't spent all that much on it during COVID, and the money is gone anyway.

And some of that money was well spent. I've enjoyed women in their 30's, 20's, including a few 21 and 20 year olds, and even one 19 year old. There were times I almost had to pinch myself because I couldn't believe I was about to enjoy the company of who was in front of me. The hobby helped keep me sane at times when little else worked to keep me sane.

But there were also close calls. I'm amazed I never caught a disease after all this time, although I had my share of false alarms. I've always used protection for everything, but covers aren't 100% foolproof. Am also amazed I've never encountered our least favorite uncle or that I was never robbed or ended up with a black eye I wouldn't be able to explain. This forum and my sixth sense saved me more than once.

In the post COVID world, I plan on occasional meetups with providers, but probably not to the extent of 4-5 years ago. The urge to hook up isn't as intense as it once was. There are several reasons why. I think part of it is I've known for a while that I'm a sex addict, but I didn't really accept that I was until recently. Not fighting it anymore has ironically made me chill out a bit.

Just felt like being a bit nostalgic here, as this forum greatly helped my enjoyment and safety for a long time.

[QUOTE=UOnlyLiveOnce;5239152]Just realized it's now been a full 10 years since I've been back in the hobby. It was around March 2011 that I broke the ice by going to see Gypsy Rae (there's a blast to the past for those who have been around a while). I saw her in a crappy notel, but the environment didn't change the fact that she was hot and about 20 years younger than me, which was all it took for the hobby to sink its hooks into me.

I've tried getting out of the hobby at different points, but apart from COVID, never could stay away for long. I've done the math before on how much I can remember spending in the past 5 years or so. The number wasn't pretty. Maybe someday, when I feel like a glutton for punishment, I'll do my best estimate on how much I've spent over the full 10 years. But what's the point, as I haven't spent all that much on it during COVID, and the money is gone anyway.

And some of that money was well spent. I've enjoyed women in their 30's, 20's, including a few 21 and 20 year olds, and even one 19 year old. There were times I almost had to pinch myself because I couldn't believe I was about to enjoy the company of who was in front of me. The hobby helped keep me sane at times when little else worked to keep me sane.

But there were also close calls. I'm amazed I never caught a disease after all this time, although I had my share of false alarms. I've always used protection for everything, but covers aren't 100% foolproof. Am also amazed I've never encountered our least favorite uncle or that I was never robbed or ended up with a black eye I wouldn't be able to explain. This forum and my sixth sense saved me more than once.[/QUOTE]I have been in the hobby over 25 years and I have not had a SO the past 20 years but I still enjoy the company of a sexy woman. I don't have the same sex drive that I once did because of my age (67). One thing I don't care for is people labeling us mongers in the hobby as sex addicts. We love sex which is normal for human beings especially men so let the world be aware!

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Than to argue with a fool, but you are apparently dumb enough to follow-up with someone who is obviously using fake pictures.

If you knew the pics were bogus why would you even contact the number in the first place?

What a maroon.

[QUOTE=SexTalkFor1000;5262732]You must think you are the only person on this site wit any brains, who in their right mind would follow up on anything if they thought the pics were fake.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=SexTalkFor1000;5261552]I don't disagree with you about the pics, however I was given a physical address on 5th st in Covington, so I still believe it was a LEO setup.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=SexTalkFor1000;5261255]I contacted this one from mega personals and right away I was given the address in Covington.

Pretty much like she / he was telling me just to come there with no other discussion.

However, the texting stopped when I ask if this was a cop.

Be careful out there.

[URL]https://megapersonals.eu/public/post_detail/12979088[/URL][/QUOTE]

I don't believe for a minute that I am a sex addict given my circumstances, but I am sure some might argue the point. I am in sexless situation so I go elsewhere, mainly SB's only now but have used pros in the past for my needs. I too like the company of a sexy woman from time to time, but a few times a month is usually fine for me. I think to be declared an addict, it tends to have to be an activity that you are obsessed with every day of your life? If I had an SO that was interested in sex I think I would be fine and not on the hunt much at all (but I am north of 60 so...). I was a bit of a dog when younger, but I traveled a lot and some of that was just being younger and on the road with opportunity. A lot of traveling men today and woman as well struggle with this situation - many get bored on the road when alone and horny, it happens. And as mentioned, most men do love sex with woman! Very normal I think.

[QUOTE=BigCat44;5239211]I have been in the hobby over 25 years and I have not had a SO the past 20 years but I still enjoy the company of a sexy woman. I don't have the same sex drive that I once did because of my age (67). One thing I don't care for is people labeling us mongers in the hobby as sex addicts. We love sex which is normal for human beings especially men so let the world be aware![/QUOTE]

Here's a question for everyone: Of all the girls you've seen through mongering, how many would you actually trust in a "what if" situation? My idea of "trust" in this context would be someone I would invite to my home for an outcall. I realize some mongers do outcalls regularly but, for me, I would NEVER invite an escort to my home (except for two) nor would I ever give them my last name. There are some girls I've seen numerous times and I've never said my last name in front of them, used a credit card while they were with me, etc. Occasionally, I drive someone to pick up groceries or whatever and I always make sure there's nothing in my car that shows my name.

I keep a list of the girls I've met through the hobby and I'm up to 120. Out of those 120 girls there's only two that I would be OK if they knew where I lived and / or knew my last name--Lady J and SincyCinnamon. I'm curious what you guys have to say on the subject if you're willing to share.

[QUOTE=Reman3289;5263331]I don't believe for a minute that I am a sex addict given my circumstances, but I am sure some might argue the point. I am in sexless situation so I go elsewhere, mainly SB's only now but have used pros in the past for my needs. I too like the company of a sexy woman from time to time, but a few times a month is usually fine for me. I think to be declared an addict, it tends to have to be an activity that you are obsessed with every day of your life? If I had an SO that was interested in sex I think I would be fine and not on the hunt much at all (but I am north of 60 so...). I was a bit of a dog when younger, but I traveled a lot and some of that was just being younger and on the road with opportunity. A lot of traveling men today and woman as well struggle with this situation - many get bored on the road when alone and horny, it happens. And as mentioned, most men do love sex with woman! Very normal I think.[/QUOTE]In terms of diagnosis, addiction is NOT that you do a substance or activity. It is that you continue to do so despite clear evidence that it is damaging your health, your finances, your relationships, causing legal issues, etc. Someone who goes to the casino say once a week with a fixed amount of cash, that they can afford to lose, and plays till it's gone is not a gambling addict. Someone who has run up 50 grand in credit card debt and keeps going is. Mongering could be either- the "joker" in the definition is that you could be fine according to all the criteria- but what if the word got out? What if you walked into a sting, or caught an STD? I enjoy riding a high performance motorcycle quite fast on the twisty roads of NK, but I wear quality protective gear, run on good tires, and slow down for blind corners. Is it risky? Yes, but I understand the risks and don't do stupid things that I see way too many other riders do. What is your definition of "acceptable risk" to do something you enjoy? BTW I basically haven't hobbied since COVID started, and now have had my vaccinations and am thinking about testing the waters again.

The good dr.

[QUOTE=Kenal1;5272068]Here's a question for everyone: Of all the girls you've seen through mongering, how many would you actually trust in a "what if" situation? My idea of "trust" in this context would be someone I would invite to my home for an outcall. I realize some mongers do outcalls regularly but, for me, I would NEVER invite an escort to my home (except for two) nor would I ever give them my last name. There are some girls I've seen numerous times and I've never said my last name in front of them, used a credit card while they were with me, etc. Occasionally, I drive someone to pick up groceries or whatever and I always make sure there's nothing in my car that shows my name.

I keep a list of the girls I've met through the hobby and I'm up to 120. Out of those 120 girls there's only two that I would be OK if they knew where I lived and / or knew my last name--Lady J and SincyCinnamon. I'm curious what you guys have to say on the subject if you're willing to share.[/QUOTE]No trust from me, no exceptions. There may be a couple who can be trusted in that way, but I feel better not take chances. I don't even use my real first name, although I did one time by accident. I've never even done an outcall to my hotel room if I had one. To each his own.

[QUOTE=Kenal1;5272068]Here's a question for everyone: Of all the girls you've seen through mongering, how many would you actually trust in a "what if" situation? My idea of "trust" in this context would be someone I would invite to my home for an outcall. I realize some mongers do outcalls regularly but, for me, I would NEVER invite an escort to my home (except for two) nor would I ever give them my last name. There are some girls I've seen numerous times and I've never said my last name in front of them, used a credit card while they were with me, etc. Occasionally, I drive someone to pick up groceries or whatever and I always make sure there's nothing in my car that shows my name.

I keep a list of the girls I've met through the hobby and I'm up to 120. Out of those 120 girls there's only two that I would be OK if they knew where I lived and / or knew my last name--Lady J and SincyCinnamon. I'm curious what you guys have to say on the subject if you're willing to share.[/QUOTE]I have been seeing the same lady for over 10 years now and yes I trust her. Always go to her incall but I would trust her to come to my place. Trust is something you develop over time.

[QUOTE=Dillsborodave;5272472]I have been seeing the same lady for over 10 years now and yes I trust her. Always go to her incall but I would trust her to come to my place. Trust is something you develop over time.[/QUOTE]10 years with the same gal, is she seeing new folks? Cause that's the provider type I'm seeking.

For you mongers that are cautious about the bust being reported in Northern Ky. Good news Ispent the morning with Brookee and she will be back north of the River this weekend. I had a very enjoyable time with her today. Won't go into detail it been said many times before but she keeps getting better every time. HB.

[QUOTE=UOnlyLiveOnce;5272459]No trust from me, no exceptions. There may be a couple who can be trusted in that way, but I feel better not take chances. I don't even use my real first name, although I did one time by accident. I've never even done an outcall to my hotel room if I had one. To each his own.[/QUOTE]Agree 100%. No trust ever. I am a ghost. Use a burner. I have a bunch of burners. If I feel heat the burner is destroyed. Minutes bought online. I have found real identitiies of dozens of ladies by simply doing a reverse ph search. None of these ladies need to know my business.

[QUOTE=Kenal1;5272068]Here's a question for everyone: Of all the girls you've seen through mongering, how many would you actually trust in a "what if" situation? My idea of "trust" in this context would be someone I would invite to my home for an outcall. I realize some mongers do outcalls regularly but, for me, I would NEVER invite an escort to my home (except for two) nor would I ever give them my last name. There are some girls I've seen numerous times and I've never said my last name in front of them, used a credit card while they were with me, etc. Occasionally, I drive someone to pick up groceries or whatever and I always make sure there's nothing in my car that shows my name.

I keep a list of the girls I've met through the hobby and I'm up to 120. Out of those 120 girls there's only two that I would be OK if they knew where I lived and / or knew my last name--Lady J and SincyCinnamon. I'm curious what you guys have to say on the subject if you're willing to share.[/QUOTE]Had one in California, she and I would see each other regularly. It got to a point where she would do overnights and just "pop in. " I had to go out of town and asked her to watch the house while gone. Gave her a key, never had anything taken and she used it to come snuggle in the middle of the night if she wanted company. She now makes visits to Texas and Kentucky depending on where I am.

[QUOTE=Kenal1;5272068]Here's a question for everyone: Of all the girls you've seen through mongering, how many would you actually trust in a "what if" situation? My idea of "trust" in this context would be someone I would invite to my home for an outcall. I realize some mongers do outcalls regularly but, for me, I would NEVER invite an escort to my home (except for two) nor would I ever give them my last name. There are some girls I've seen numerous times and I've never said my last name in front of them, used a credit card while they were with me, etc. Occasionally, I drive someone to pick up groceries or whatever and I always make sure there's nothing in my car that shows my name.

I keep a list of the girls I've met through the hobby and I'm up to 120. Out of those 120 girls there's only two that I would be OK if they knew where I lived and / or knew my last name--Lady J and SincyCinnamon. I'm curious what you guys have to say on the subject if you're willing to share.[/QUOTE]One I would absolutely trust completely would be Molly. She is the picture of class, discretion, and integrity.

[QUOTE=BengalMan;5274150]One I would absolutely trust completely would be Molly. She is the picture of class, discretion, and integrity.[/QUOTE]She would be the closest to someone trustworthy, but I've never invited a hooker or SB back to my place. And I never will. Things that are good can become bad. Why take any chances?