DISCUSSION: POLL: What ARE the Top few places worthy of "listing"
[QUOTE=Big In Japan;7120581][b]Re: POLL: What ARE the Top few places worthy of "listing"[/b]
(...) I heard that there are two decent spas on Semoran between the 408 and Colonial. I also heard that they're run by the same outfit, but am not 100% on that point. As you may recall, one of them, Golden Gate, was one of the biggies a few years ago.
(...) Admittedly, these are somewhat fringe options compared to the major leaguers.[/QUOTE]Yes, [b]Golden Gate[/b] and sister-location [b]Semoran Spa[/b]... good call. I also recall more than one report here alledging that those two places are run by the same outfit and rotate talent. While they aren't quite up to the same level as when Yuki(Monica/Blue) and Mona ran Golden Gate, I could see those two AMPs being included as "Triple-A Ball" AMPs (so to speak), along with some of those other places mentioned, like JiuJiu, etc.
Perhaps we break this updated listing into the "Major League" AMPs, such as Spring, Tokyo, M&Y, and maybe 2 or 3 next in ranking, then add a subsection for "Triple-A" AMPs like Golden Gate, Semoran Spa, Missly, and others. This will call for consensus among the community on a "ranking" of the AMPs to be included and where to "draw the line" between Major League and Triple-A (where highly [u]active[/u] and highly [u]contributing[/u] members carry votes with greater weight).
Off the top of my head, the criteria to be considered "Major League" might include Body-2-Body-Nuru-Style Table Showers, BBBJ and TUMA in the Table Shower, BBBJ=CIM/TUMA,/DATY/69/CFS in the massage room, an overall agressive-nympho-type behavior, and a minimum 2-3 girls typically on staff. Four-Hands offers (when girls are available) and MSOG would be highly desirable bonus options, but that's not always available at even the best of them.
[QUOTE=Dick Jackman;7121012][b]Jury Still Out on Aqua[/b]
I would put a "hold" on including Aqua (...) According to the only woman on duty, Aqua is under pressure from their landlord to only offer legitimate massages. She said some of the girls might be offering more on their own initiative but that she was just massage only. Am eager to [u]hear from other hobbyists who have visited Aqua since Sunday[/u]. (Dec.1st)[/QUOTE]Wow! This is disturbing. Aside from your initial "disappointment" report on 12/1, I had not previously seen a report about Aqua that indicated such a severe drop off in service level. As you mentioned, we need some solid intel on this to corroborate the remarks of a single girl at the place. I would think that, if service is going to dry up to that extent, the better talent (like Connie, Roxy, Mikey, etc) would find a NEW place from which to work. If your experience holds up with a few others, then I agree that we axe Aqua from any list going forward.
[u]I will offer an observation on a somewhat similar circumstance[/u]: There is a "Spring/Tokyo" type Chinese AMP in St. Petersburg called [b]Vinca Massage[/b] and, as the ONLY place like that in the entire Tampa Bay area operating to this level, they have been VERY busy and generating a ton of 'wild-over-the-top-crazy' reports. THEN ... when the December talent rolled in, things changed drastically. They still have four girls working, however, the one *I* drew on my first visit (on Dec.4th... it's a long drive for me, so couldn't get there sooner) is apparently the WORST one of the current staff ([u]Tina[/u]: 50's, fat belly, puffy-fat-pussy, collagen-inflated lips, just kinda gross looking). While it still was FS, there was NONE of the over-the-top services for which the place has become infamous (no Body-2-Body Shower, no Shower BBBJ, no TUMA). My personal speculation is that, POSSIBLY, the better talent is chosing to take the holidays off and this was all they could get to keep the place open. MAYBE (hopefully?) Aqua has run into a similar talent drought and this "Cindy" just doesn't want to do FS and offers the "landlord" excuse as a way to defer responsibility to a higher authority (common tactic in negotiating circles to back out of commitments). This cockamamie theory is purely irresponsible speculation on my part, which is why it would be helpful to get corroboration from some other attendant working there at another time... also a good reason to wait until sometime next year to put this revised list together - perhaps this kink will work itself out at Aqua and things there can return to normal.
Golden Gate not so golden for me
[QUOTE=MisterSmart;7121656]Thanks for the updated information. I have not been in any AMP since milk closed. Is there an AMP in this list that provides similar services to milk?[/QUOTE]I reviewed Golden Gate a month ago. 2 MILFs high 40's working and neither were near the level of Spring or Tokyo so keep that in mind when making the trip.