Rants, Raves and Opinions AKA "The Octagon"

[QUOTE=DaveZenchak69;5170180]I bought a Visa gift card for a girl I met on xhamster. Yes, I know I'll never see my $$ or girl again. But it was only 50 bucks thought it worth the gamble. I took a photo of the card and emailed her. Now she is begging / insisting that I take a pic of the store receipt from the purchase! WTF? Any ideas why she would want that? I paid cash of course, so she won't get any CC info. Your thoughts and theories would be greatly appreciated.[/QUOTE]To get proof it was activated. Anybody can just pick up a gift card and not activated.

[QUOTE=DaveZenchak69;5170180]I bought a Visa gift card for a girl I met on xhamster. Yes, I know I'll never see my $$ or girl again. But it was only 50 bucks thought it worth the gamble. I took a photo of the card and emailed her. Now she is begging / insisting that I take a pic of the store receipt from the purchase! WTF? Any ideas why she would want that? I paid cash of course, so she won't get any CC info. Your thoughts and theories would be greatly appreciated.[/QUOTE]Since she doesn't have the physical card but a picture I believe she needs to show proof of purchase to use the card. Either way, for whatever reason she wants the store receipt, I wouldn't send her anything else regardless if you think it can't be used for anything. And yes, you should have known better.

[QUOTE=BTBear;5170508]To get proof it was activated. Anybody can just pick up a gift card and not activated.[/QUOTE]Thanks BTBear, good point.

[QUOTE=Hooter12;5171070]Since she doesn't have the physical card but a picture I believe she needs to show proof of purchase to use the card. Either way, for whatever reason she wants the store receipt, I wouldn't send her anything else regardless if you think it can't be used for anything. And yes, you should have known better.[/QUOTE]Hooter, that is good point. However, she managed to drain that card in one quick purchase. Funny how she isn't asking for the receipt any longer LOL. Yes I should be ashamed of myself.

[QUOTE=DaveZenchak69;5170180]I bought a Visa gift card for a girl I met on xhamster. Yes, I know I'll never see my $$ or girl again. But it was only 50 bucks thought it worth the gamble. I took a photo of the card and emailed her. Now she is begging / insisting that I take a pic of the store receipt from the purchase! WTF? Any ideas why she would want that? I paid cash of course, so she won't get any CC info. Your thoughts and theories would be greatly appreciated.[/QUOTE]Check the balance and maybe you can spend your money before she does.

[QUOTE=DaveZenchak69;5171724]Hooter, that is good point. However, she managed to drain that card in one quick purchase. Funny how she isn't asking for the receipt any longer LOL. Yes I should be ashamed of myself.[/QUOTE]Post a link to her so nobody else get taken.

[QUOTE=DaveZenchak69;5170180]I bought a Visa gift card for a girl I met on xhamster. Yes, I know I'll never see my $$ or girl again. But it was only 50 bucks thought it worth the gamble. I took a photo of the card and emailed her. Now she is begging / insisting that I take a pic of the store receipt from the purchase! WTF? Any ideas why she would want that? I paid cash of course, so she won't get any CC info. Your thoughts and theories would be greatly appreciated.[/QUOTE]Well, looks like you got your scam cherry popped early on in your mongering. $50 isn't too bad. Could be worse. Just remember the #1 rule is, "Money doesn't exchange hands until the END of the session. ". If they insist or say, "That's how everyone does it. ", walk away. Even if the girl is naked in front of you, the cash does not need to make an appearance. There's a monger here who experienced a provider run out the door MID-BLOWJOB; she already got the money.

There are other very good reasons to only pay after besides avoiding getting scammed. But the point is, don't be afraid to walk away at any time.

Welcome to the board.

I moved this reply to this thread because my post will, I'm sure, cause some drama.

I don't believe everything a hooker says, I also don't believe everything a monger says.

Recently I was accused of getting a provider to "double" her rates, which was TOTAL bullshit. While shooting her pics and working on her website SHE said that a number of mongers have told her that she charged too little. It was HER decision about her new rates, NOT at my recommendation. The complaining monger was "grandfathered" at his old rate, I think he just got "butt hurt" because she wanted more to perform for him AND his wife. His post also proved that he isn't a mathematical giant. The increases were about 30% not the 100% that equals "double" the rate. So those of you who were quick to denounce me did so without the facts. BTW, she paid me for the work I did. I believe what I do has value more than a free piece of ass.

I constantly question myself about why I partipate in this web site. The answer is that I travel a fair amount and USASG is the most honest site around.

But there is a trend for the Cincinnati forum to become more and more misogynistic. How many times do you read how a woman is just a cum dumpster? If you trust that same woman enough to put your bare dick in her mouth where she could bite it off and just spit it on the floor, I would think they would give her some consideration because she doesn't. It's probably because her self esteem has been eroded down to nothing because that bare dick is what allows her to forget about how she earns her fix.

To finish this post out, the main point is that we all need to have our posts read with a little bit of skepticism.

Come on guys, ****** are people too.

[QUOTE=RogerOver;5178582]I wouldn't be so quick to simply believe her. These chicks say lots of things that aren't true. Just sayin.[/QUOTE]

I just don't get this. Your all running around to these places to get what. A good massage I can understand. To pay 60 to look at a Asian then jack off you got to be kidding me. Oh she put oil on my dick what the fuck is that. Why do you keep throwing money away. Hell you don't even know whos in the room with you until she shows up. And she could be in her 50's. So my question is Do you actually get laid or do you get a hand job or do it yourself? Don't post any pics either. We don't want to see you wanking off.

[QUOTE=Lenny6746;5183973]I just don't get this. Your all running around to these places to get what. A good massage I can understand. To pay 60 to look at a Asian then jack off you got to be kidding me. Oh she put oil on my dick what the fuck is that. Why do you keep throwing money away. Hell you don't even know whos in the room with you until she shows up. And she could be in her 50's. So my question is Do you actually get laid or do you get a hand job or do it yourself? Don't post any pics either. We don't want to see you wanking off.[/QUOTE]What I don't get mongers will say they went to massage parlor then left extra happy but all they got was a hand job. To me leaving happy or extra happy is full service this is just me. I have in the past did leave realy happy yes it wasnt that cheap but I did. I see the reviews in the past so I try thinking wow they got it all then I get there just diy or a hand job with no touching lady. So I stopped going a while ago. Anyway everyone have a good one be safe out there.

There's about a million ways to say this, different strokes for different folks seems apt.

The question is, why do you care? Don't read it if it offends you.

But at least I know that expecting you to learn from this is a complete waste of time.

[QUOTE=Lenny6746;5183973]I just don't get this. Your all running around to these places to get what. A good massage I can understand. To pay 60 to look at a Asian then jack off you got to be kidding me. Oh she put oil on my dick what the fuck is that. Why do you keep throwing money away. Hell you don't even know whos in the room with you until she shows up. And she could be in her 50's. So my question is Do you actually get laid or do you get a hand job or do it yourself? Don't post any pics either. We don't want to see you wanking off.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Lenny6746;5183973]I just don't get this. Your all running around to these places to get what. A good massage I can understand. To pay 60 to look at a Asian then jack off you got to be kidding me. Oh she put oil on my dick what the fuck is that. Why do you keep throwing money away. Hell you don't even know whos in the room with you until she shows up. And she could be in her 50's. So my question is Do you actually get laid or do you get a hand job or do it yourself? Don't post any pics either. We don't want to see you wanking off.[/QUOTE]I'm the last person that's going to spend AMP money 'because she's attractive' or whatever some of these people tell themselves, and generally find it a waste of time anymore, but you can easily still see why others would prefer AMPs.

You say the women are 50, but you're picking up girls in uph who are in thier 30's but have aged themselves to look 50 anyway. Then there's the various other things that come with every other type of provider. Drugs, lying for no reason some times, drama, theft, habit out of control, ECT. Then with advertised providers you have the ghosting in addition to all of the above. Yes they are willing to do way more for way less, but it comes with big caveats now days. In 2017 and earlier you could easily find a 20 buck girl that was TGTBT- young, looked young, took care you for a long time and personality not zombie fiend. Haven't seen that in ages, and with the advertisers being the same low quality but with shitty Instagram filters, it's pretty easy to see why some guys are okay getting the pp touched by a clean (if nothing else) Asian lady.

[QUOTE=HighLifeMan;5185832]What I don't get mongers will say they went to massage parlor then left extra happy but all they got was a hand job. To me leaving happy or extra happy is full service this is just me. I have in the past did leave realy happy yes it wasnt that cheap but I did. I see the reviews in the past so I try thinking wow they got it all then I get there just diy or a hand job with no touching lady. So I stopped going a while ago. Anyway everyone have a good one be safe out there.[/QUOTE]I must agree with Highlife and Lenny.

The AMP Scene is interesting. The average place gives a mediocre massage and paying 80-100 for a massage and HJ does seem silly. Don't get me wrong I have done plenty and as I look back it was silly. I find AMP's now only worth it if there is FS which you can get at 3 places maybe more (IDK) the FS donation is around $$ OTD which again becomes interesting. THe Asian hotels are 160 which is less and the escorts are also in the 160 range. So this again comes back to what is the real choice here.

I have come to find that after all the choices and hazzards around the real decision comes down to.

1) What location do I find comfortable (setting).

2) What level of hygiene.

3) Do I enjoy the persons company.

There are a couple of Massue that I enjoy, I am comfortable at the location and the hygiene is great to throughly enjoy the experience and I know them. They are the only AMP I would visit and I must get everything, otherwise I might as well go to Nani Massage and get a really good masasge.

[QUOTE=NineIncher;5168352]Didn't realize she is so huge, on top of her robbing mongers. No thanks. Glad I never booked anything with her.[/QUOTE]Your pm inbox is full bro.

If you have been around awhile you should realize what your getting Weather its a walker a Ad you answered or a AMP to jackoff to. A lot of you assume what I do and how I do it. Believe me if I want a provider I will pay for it. I got away from the dope fiend providers They are out there just answer Those ads. I have stated before almost all of them were or are streetwalkers with a ad. You can still find good looking girls walking the streets and they are in their early 20's. A lot of dudes on here pay 150 to 200 for the same girl I'm doing for 40 to 60. That's amazing isn't it. I read all the reports almost daily. The AMP section I still don't get. It doesn't bother me but I look for more bang for the buck. AND I MEAN BANG! Not jack off or happy ending. I have a happier ending getting a BBBJ, BBFS or keeping the money in my pocket. And keep on looking. Next!! LOL Hint facebook is full of women willing to receive pay for play.

What's the Secret to finding willing women on FB?

I doubt searching "Pussy Play for Pay" finds anything.

[QUOTE=Lenny6746;5187368]If you have been around awhile you should realize what your getting Weather its a walker a Ad you answered or a AMP to jackoff to. A lot of you assume what I do and how I do it. Believe me if I want a provider I will pay for it. I got away from the dope fiend providers They are out there just answer Those ads. I have stated before almost all of them were or are streetwalkers with a ad. You can still find good looking girls walking the streets and they are in their early 20's. A lot of dudes on here pay 150 to 200 for the same girl I'm doing for 40 to 60. That's amazing isn't it. I read all the reports almost daily. The AMP section I still don't get. It doesn't bother me but I look for more bang for the buck. AND I MEAN BANG! Not jack off or happy ending. I have a happier ending getting a BBBJ, BBFS or keeping the money in my pocket. And keep on looking. Next!! LOL Hint facebook is full of women willing to receive pay for play.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=BTBear;5188539]What's the Secret to finding willing women on FB?

I doubt searching "Pussy Play for Pay" finds anything.[/QUOTE]Other than the occasional friends suggestion being mined from your phone contacts list giving you some insight to a providers personal life I'm pretty sure the only thing you're going to get from propositioning women is your FB account being closed for harassment.

[QUOTE=BTBear;5188539]What's the Secret to finding willing women on FB?

I doubt searching "Pussy Play for Pay" finds anything.[/QUOTE]There is no secret, you're just going to look like a (most likely old) creep. I'm sure. At best, he stalks profiles and maybe sees signs that they may P4 P and shoots his shot. I mean if nothing else, you can tell when someone's extremely poor, and probably would go for it. Some girl with shitty tats, kids especially with trashy names, has her occupation set as 'stay at home mom', or retail, asks for handouts and posts every facet of her life, is probably that type. Just speculation, I have a normal FB account, and don't keep random girls as friends, so I don't contact them.

Someone younger can get away with it because sliding in the DM's is just a thing, and conversation can be had normally, without the stigma of being an old creep who reminds her of her dad. Basically it'd be normal online courting.

[QUOTE=BTBear;5188539]What's the Secret to finding willing women on FB?

I doubt searching "Pussy Play for Pay" finds anything.[/QUOTE]I personally wouldn't try it myself. One of my FB friends has never been a provider to my knowledge, but with how she comes across, I can see why guys might think she'd drop the panties for cash. There have been a couple cases where guys sent her messages about pay for play, then she posted screen shots of the messages on FB without crossing out their names. It's way too easy for these chicks to publicly "out" guys the same way. Even if you open an account with a fake name, you never know when someone might connect it to you.

There are plenty of them on there, I never ask one Pay to Play ever Thats rude and stupid. Use your head Say like Hey I'm Lenny do you date. I was wondering if we could hookup if your interested. If they say yes then add I can compensate you for your time if you would like. Your so pretty I had to ask. You don't jump on there and say hey you want to fuck. Come on now that pisses any girl off. I got alot of dates on FB with out being BANNED or broadcast across FB. Its how you approach them. Listen to what they say. It works for me.

[QUOTE=Lenny6746;5190824]There are plenty of them on there, I never ask one Pay to Play ever Thats rude and stupid. Use your head Say like Hey I'm Lenny do you date. I was wondering if we could hookup if your interested. If they say yes then add I can compensate you for your time if you would like. Your so pretty I had to ask. You don't jump on there and say hey you want to fuck. Come on now that pisses any girl off. I got alot of dates on FB with out being BANNED or broadcast across FB. Its how you approach them. Listen to what they say. It works for me.[/QUOTE]HA! You silver-tongued devil. With a delivery like that, I just bet ALL the FB chicks roll over with their legs in the air for Lenny.

At least the hotties that live in the trailer parks.

How would you approach a potential provider ROGER OVER. Lets hear it. What like go roger in the clover ROGEROVER lay her down and do it again!! Then Roger says Oh fuck its a DUDE!

[QUOTE=Lenny6746;5192513]How would you approach a potential provider ROGER OVER. Lets hear it. What like go roger in the clover ROGEROVER lay her down and do it again!! Then Roger says Oh fuck its a DUDE![/QUOTE]With prose and delivery like that, you should be pumping out books by the dozen. "From Zero to Fucking FB Chicks for Cash. For Dummies. ". Or, "How Every Girl on FB is Waiting to Date Me For Money" - For Dummies.

[S]like[/S] BY Lenny.

What is the secret of getting phone numbers for Babylon posts.

Thanks.

[QUOTE=DoctorAl;5199508]What is the secret of getting phone numbers for Babylon posts.

Thanks.[/QUOTE]Look at the entire URL at the top of your screen. Include in the URL is their phone number.

[QUOTE]I was greeted by Anna, young yellow about 5'0" and around 108 lbs soaking wet.[/QUOTE]I'm not a liberal, but, I mean this is hilarious. How old is this guy, that a 30's Asian girl is a "young yellow"?

What an idiot! Complete brain dead moron. After my post he doesn't ask for digits he demands them. What a dick head.

Do you think I'm going to be passing on digits of my regular to some deuchebag that's constantly bragging about barebacking everything on two legs? Probably some on four legs too. Not going to happen. Like I'm going to increase my risks by sending a cretin to my regular? Duh.

You obviously either can't read or comprehend anything. I didn't call LEO dumbass. He did and what do you think he's going to do when he's just lost everything? Never said car was stolen either you moron.

I'm not dealing with your stupidity any more. Off to ignore.

[QUOTE=Lenny6746;5207254]Roselawn was empty. Nothing out at all I expect not after LEO being called the day before. I hate a thief too but I refuse to call them when they steal. Its part of the risk we take. My advise on this if you can't take the heat get out of the kitchen. Its getting harder to find girls there should be no need to call LEO. Especially when your not involved. Dumb ass. I drive a Camaro The only thing is when I nutted in her she pulled up and shot half of it on my shirt LOL. Dropped her off at kroger.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Lenny6746;5205257] Saw two LEO on east not a working girl out it was about 5. 30. No cars stolen with dudes chasing them either. LOL Be safe and watch your wallet and keys. WTF over.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Lenny6746;5197908]The pm me Teasa's digits and a few of the others in Roselawn. I do know Nikki. There's not much walking right now that I can find. Thank you.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=HornyAsHell;5207542]What an idiot! Complete brain dead moron. After my post he doesn't ask for digits he demands them. What a dick head.

Do you think I'm going to be passing on digits of my regular to some deuchebag that's constantly bragging about barebacking everything on two legs? Probably some on four legs too. Not going to happen. Like I'm going to increase my risks by sending a cretin to my regular? Duh.

You obviously either can't read or comprehend anything. I didn't call LEO dumbass. He did and what do you think he's going to do when he's just lost everything? Never said car was stolen either you moron.

I'm not dealing with your stupidity any more. Off to ignore.[/QUOTE]How does Lenny have time for all that? Thought he was banging all the facebook girls!

You can't read yourself so why didn't you stick your dick into the ignition and start it for him. Rather than giving him your BURNER phone to call LEO To me its one in the same, You probably went above and beyond and gave him a blow job to make him feel better, My choice is bareback I don't hide it at all. Don't you fucking white night me or anyone on here saying you won't give digits out cause they bareback. Hell you do one better YOU HELP PUT THEM IN Jail Dumb Fuck.

I get around north south east and west LOL.

One more thing I don't believe that asking for digits and saying thank you is DEMANDING. You don't take PMs at all so your basically useless for information unless your handing out your burner phone. You need to learn how to read.

I read the boards. It is curious that despite all of the postings in various categories the west side is virtualy.

Non existent From bars --to escorts-- to massage--to utr--to street girls excluding price hill westwood cheviot bridgetown is just void. Is all underground?

[QUOTE=Lenny6746;5207788]You can't read yourself so why didn't you stick your dick into the ignition and start it for him. Rather than giving him your BURNER phone to call LEO To me its one in the same, You probably went above and beyond and gave him a blow job to make him feel better, My choice is bareback I don't hide it at all. Don't you fucking white night me or anyone on here saying you won't give digits out cause they bareback. Hell you do one better YOU HELP PUT THEM IN Jail Dumb Fuck.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Lenny6746;5207792]I get around north south east and west LOL.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Lenny6746;5207812]One more thing I don't believe that asking for digits and saying thank you is DEMANDING. You don't take PMs at all so your basically useless for information unless your handing out your burner phone. You need to learn how to read.[/QUOTE]I think Lenny had a few too many Coors lights. If there's anyone here that speaks and can interpret dipshit, please do.

Do you ever have anything good to share when you post. Your totally sarcastic on every post you make. Your putting down providers and mongers on a continuing basis every day and contributing nothing. I don't drink at all for your information. That was a stupid comment. You can't help yourself degrading people that's just you and you think your smarter than everyone on here I doubt that. That other idiot you chimed in with as usual can't tell the difference between HAMILTON and ROSELAWN. Neither of you can read. Just shoot your mouths off. If you don't have anything good to say or to contribute don't say it Lenny6746.

Holy cow, don't gloss over the fact that Lenny drives a Camaro!

Was that a humble brag?

(Ok, I know Dwight actually drove a Trans-Am but it's the same thing.).

[QUOTE=Lenny6746;5207254] Then she says lay your seat back so we can fuck I told her the car is too small. I drive a Camaro She proved me wrong.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Lenny6746;5208869]Do you ever have anything good to share when you post. Your totally sarcastic on every post you make. Your putting down providers and mongers on a continuing basis every day and contributing nothing. I don't drink at all for your information. That was a stupid comment. You can't help yourself degrading people that's just you and you think your smarter than everyone on here I doubt that. That other idiot you chimed in with as usual can't tell the difference between HAMILTON and ROSELAWN. Neither of you can read. Just shoot your mouths off. If you don't have anything good to say or to contribute don't say it Lenny6746.[/QUOTE]Rogerover reminds me totally of my Ex, a know it all *****. Lenny, keep posting relevent posts. That MF never does!

[QUOTE=DoctorAl;5208132]I read the boards. It is curious that despite all of the postings in various categories the west side is virtualy.

Non existent From bars --to escorts-- to massage--to utr--to street girls excluding price hill westwood cheviot Bridgetown is just void. Is all underground?[/QUOTE]I don't like going to the west side of Cincy for even everyday activities. LOL. No offence to west side contributors, same goes for downtown. And when it comes to this hobby, especially at night, there's too many other more illegal things going on so I stay away for both my personal safety and that of my car parked outside.

Quite a few people have that idiot blocked. Way too much stupidity (and lies) spewing out of that pie hole. Idiot DEMANDS that I send digits instead of asking then lies about that too.

FYI, when people ask for something you generally see words like "can you, could you, would you? Etc.

Not that idiot though.

As for bragging about driving a Camaro? What a joke. Nothing to brag about there and it lets LEO know that they can stop a Camaro on the stroll and have a good chance of busting a stupid idiot LOL.

And If a guy reminds you of your ex? You must be gay or into fugly biatches. LOL.

I don't need to waste any more time dealing with the mental midgets here. Just add more to ignore I guess.

[QUOTE=VinnieKramer;5209055]Holy cow, don't gloss over the fact that Lenny drives a Camaro!

Was that a humble brag?

(Ok, I know Dwight actually drove a Trans-Am but it's the same thing.).[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=DickMorehead;5209428]Rogerover reminds me totally of my Ex, a know it all *****. Lenny, keep posting relevent posts. That MF never does![/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=RogerOver;5207616]How does Lenny have time for all that? Thought he was banging all the facebook girls![/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=HornyAsHell;5209936]Quite a few people have that idiot blocked. Way too much stupidity (and lies) spewing out of that pie hole. Idiot DEMANDS that I send digits instead of asking then lies about that too.

FYI, when people ask for something you generally see words like "can you, could you, would you? Etc.

Not that idiot though.

As for bragging about driving a Camaro? What a joke. Nothing to brag about there and it lets LEO know that they can stop a Camaro on the stroll and have a good chance of busting a stupid idiot LOL.

And If a guy reminds you of your ex? You must be gay or into fugly biatches. LOL.

I don't need to waste any more time dealing with the mental midgets here. Just add more to ignore I guess.[/QUOTE]Now the 3 of you have one thing in common. You are 'Know it all biatches' LOL as well as c-nts.

Lets talk about that for a min. Some of these mongers don't understand what probable cause is. LEO cannot pull any vehicle over unless they have it. They will run your plates that's all they can do and always do. They cannot pull you over just because you drive a type make of car or truck. They cannot pull you over if you pick someone up. They have to have probable cause. If you do a moving violation yes they can. Not using turn signals yes they can. Tail lights or head lights out yes they can. If you have warrants of course they will. I own 4 cars and trucks so witch one?? In the fall I picked up one of my regular girls. A Hamilton LEO pulled up right behind me as I picked her up. She got in and I pulled away he followed me ran my plates and turned off. He had no probable cause to pull me over. So keep posting your stupid shit. Lenny6746.