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[QUOTE=SteveJohnAss;5760438]Is DATY and FIV pretty standard for panacea or sort of case by case?[/QUOTE]I don't think there's any place in GR that it is "pretty standard", for first time clients. After you are known (like at least 3 visits on average) it is pretty much a given at a lot the places that get nude right away and charge a flat rate of $180 or more. Of course, by that time you've dropped $600 already on regular rub 'and tugs.
[QUOTE=MichiganMan686;5760565]I don't think the owner will allow more services but the doors are closed. The girls should just do what theyneed to do.[/QUOTE]Not paying that I will diy done with this hobby.
[QUOTE=TwoTrack;5760748]Essential Body Works in Grand Haven.
Anna will take great care of you.
Twotrack.[/QUOTE]It's actually Essential Massage in Grand Haven.
Stay safe guys.
Twotrack.
[QUOTE=Hoeser;5761336]Not paying that I will diy done with this hobby.[/QUOTE]Prices have definitely been escalating, and some guys even think you should be tipping on top of the high rates being asked at some of the parlors. Fortunately there are still places that charge more reasonable costs and can one can get some stress relief to your needs, we should probably start frequenting those spots and publicizing them a bit more on these boards. One that comes to the top of my mind is Wonder Spa off Plainfield by the Beltline.
[QUOTE=Hoeser;5761336]Not paying that I will diy done with this hobby.[/QUOTE]Are you sure? Sticker shock wears off after a while. Remember when we all said we would never pay $4 for a gallon of gas, that we'd walk instead? Well, if you're putting premium gas in that SUV, you're almost there. And no one is walking.
DIY. Fixes the urge for release. But not the urge for touch or connection.
Maybe I'm alone in this thought. Just one man's opinion.
G2.
[QUOTE=Gene2;5760660]That would be great Tommey. But I don't see that happening. Prices were raised at many MPs to reflect rising prices for everything from food to automobiles. To expect that the end cost will remain the same as the girls will expect $20 LESS in a tip just isn't realistic, based on inflationary trends. Let's just hope tips can remain the same. But my guess is taut they will also rise, to match the door fee. That's how inflation works.
On a positive note. BodyworkByUs still has their all in pricing. While a tip isn't expected, I always leave a small tip to express my appreciation when it's stellar service. And stellar service is the name of the game with Brit and her bevy of beauties.
G2.[/QUOTE]Inflation is real, but it's also supply and demand. If they had clients willing to pay $400 for an hour they'd charge it, simply put. Inflation just gives them justification and it creates a slippery slope because clients maybe won't come as often, tips could be lower and the ladies could get pissy, which turns into less client visits and lower tips. This could be cyclical and both client and providers will lose out. I don't know why I would visit Panacea again and run that risk, especially since I'm not a fan of parlors.
On a positive, Bodyworks hasn't changed their rates in idk 5+ years. The cost per hour is still higher than panacea if you match their new door fee but I was happily paying the bodywork rate 5 years ago, and don't see any reason to stop that now.
Supply and demand. I know I will be getting a great experience there regardless of the lady I'm lucky enough to see.
If I got to choose, I'd be grabbing a duo with Hunter and Nikki, and it looks like they are both working Saturday. My hobby life doesn't allow for much Saturday play so hopefully one of you lucky people gets to see them both in the flesh. My mind couldn't comprehend what that would be like.
Hunter.
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Nikki.
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[QUOTE=TwoTrack;5760748]Essential Body Works in Grand Haven.
Anna will take great care of you.
Twotrack.[/QUOTE]Any HE at this place or is it diy? Shower? How does Anna look?.
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Had the urge for a massage this morning and booked a last minute appt. With Hunter. Very glad I did. This was my second time seeing her and much like the first time the massage was amazingly relaxing with subtle teasing. The flip was one of the best finishes I've ever had which included prostate massage and plenty of edging. She takes great pride in making sure you get your full time and that clients who are able get multiple finishes. She's also great at cleaning up afterwards, which seems like a small thing, but to not have to worry there is evidence of your adventure when returning to work or home is a big g deal to us married mongers.[/QUOTE]Happy to pop that cherry of yours and look forward to a future visit with you! I appreciate the kind words and understand how important the little details are I aim to please.
XOXO.
Happy Hunting.
Hunter.
[QUOTE=HandPrintMike;5759660]Is there anywhere in GR that does back walking. I have a great place in Detroit but would love once closer to home.
Thanks.[/QUOTE]Try Asian Massage behind Westgate bowling alley off Alpine Ave. , GR. Be sure to ask for it when you walk in. They have a couple rooms with bars on the ceiling to facilitate back walking.
[QUOTE=Gene2;5761774]Are you sure? Sticker shock wears off after a while. Remember when we all said we would never pay $4 for a gallon of gas, that we'd walk instead? Well, if you're putting premium gas in that SUV, you're almost there. And no one is walking.
DIY. Fixes the urge for release. But not the urge for touch or connection.
Maybe I'm alone in this thought. Just one man's opinion.
G2.[/QUOTE]Definitely good advice from G2, I agree with you.
If touch and release are what you seek, There are some options for us that don't include the nude visuals and roaming
Simply sweet offers a very thorough massage including Tickle your Pickle.
I haven't heard of any price increase from Sweetie.
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[QUOTE=SteveLee99;5761945]Try Asian Massage behind Westgate bowling alley off Alpine Ave. , GR. Be sure to ask for it when you walk in. They have a couple rooms with bars on the ceiling to facilitate back walking.[/QUOTE]HE available here or just DIY?
[QUOTE=LoveTheLips;5761875]Any HE at this place or is it diy? Shower? How does Anna look?.[/QUOTE]Anna is 30/40 yo. Probably 5'8" tall, good looking Asian, I'd guess c cup, nice dumper, DIY for me, YMMV, very clean place, and Anna!
Probably one of the best messages your going to get in West Mi.
Reminds me of the massages Joy use to give 10/15 yrs ago.
60 door.
I left Anna 40.
Give her a try guys!
Twotrack.
[QUOTE=LoveTheLips;5762212]HE available here or just DIY?[/QUOTE]No He, don't even think DYI can be done. It's one of the Blessings chain, strictly Asian massage. Like on Plainfield, fuller, next to marges on 28th and in Jenison. They " look" promising on the outside and give pretty good massages, but extras ain't happening.
Called and made an appt. Joy was available today. Massage is good, the ending is better. Clothes come almost off, you can touch and grab whatever but no FIV. She said business has been slow and might have to close. Keep this one open guys, one of the better in town for HE. Damage 60/60
[QUOTE=SteveLee99;5761945]Try Asian Massage behind Westgate bowling alley off Alpine Ave. , GR. Be sure to ask for it when you walk in. They have a couple rooms with bars on the ceiling to facilitate back walking.[/QUOTE]Awesome thank you.
Had the pleasure of seeing Delilah yesterday. She is hard to schedule, but well worth the wait. She doesn't have a lot of reviews so I thought I'd share my experience. Rates are 80 for hhr, 120 for hr. Safe and discreet office setting in downtown GR area. Plenty of parking. Session started on time, which is rare as most providers initially say they are available but then keep pushing back the time. The massage was actually pretty good. Got my full time, too. Delilah's body is incredible. She has a tall athletic build. So sexy. Not sure what all is on her menu, I kept it simple as it was my first visit. No specific tip amount was ever discussed. I just left what I thought was fair. Great experience and I will definitely repeat. Stay safe out there.
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[QUOTE=BroadwayJay;5763534]Had the pleasure of seeing Delilah yesterday. She is hard to schedule, but well worth the wait. She doesn't have a lot of reviews so I thought I'd share my experience. Rates are 80 for hhr, 120 for hr. Safe and discreet office setting in downtown GR area. Plenty of parking. Session started on time, which is rare as most providers initially say they are available but then keep pushing back the time. The massage was actually pretty good. Got my full time, too. Delilah's body is incredible. She has a tall athletic build. So sexy. Not sure what all is on her menu, I kept it simple as it was my first visit. No specific tip amount was ever discussed. I just left what I thought was fair. Great experience and I will definitely repeat. Stay safe out there.
[URL]https://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/massage/black_caribbean/ebony-masseuse/931687431685[/URL][/QUOTE]Thanks for the review, and agree 100%. I haven't seen her for a long time but she's awesome and one of the best providers in GR and super discrete. Easily a top 3 independent provider.
She's smart as a whip too and has a great head on her shoulders. Excellent and intelligent conversation.
[QUOTE=HandPrintMike;5763081]Awesome thank you.[/QUOTE]I was in this place a few weeks ago and left as quick as I went in!
Rail thin Asian woman came from back room, dirty wrinkly clothes that were several sizes too big, hair was a understood or something on the side of her mouth.
The place smelled bad.
I use to go there almost every week. Not sure what happened, but no thanks!
Stay safe.
Twotrack.
Looking for details on Anna from Royal. Ad lists "everything I have to offer" but would like to know exactly what that may be. PM is fine. She's got a look I love but RT is an hour drive and past experiences there are mehhh.
[QUOTE=BroadwayJay;5763534]Had the pleasure of seeing Delilah yesterday. She is hard to schedule, but well worth the wait. She doesn't have a lot of reviews so I thought I'd share my experience. Rates are 80 for hhr, 120 for hr. Safe and discreet office setting in downtown GR area. Plenty of parking. Session started on time, which is rare as most providers initially say they are available but then keep pushing back the time. The massage was actually pretty good. Got my full time, too. Delilah's body is incredible. She has a tall athletic build. So sexy. Not sure what all is on her menu, I kept it simple as it was my first visit. No specific tip amount was ever discussed. I just left what I thought was fair. Great experience and I will definitely repeat. Stay safe out there.
[URL]https://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/massage/black_caribbean/ebony-masseuse/931687431685[/URL][/QUOTE]I have been seeing her on and off for almost 2 years now and she never disappoints. Very discrete independent provider; very good with communication, great massage, great conversation and a very happy ending indeed. YMMV, but the more she gets to know you the more chatty and relaxed she becomes.
[QUOTE=Nyped96;5765059]I have been seeing her on and off for almost 2 years now and she never disappoints. Very discrete independent provider; very good with communication, great massage, great conversation and a very happy ending indeed. YMMV, but the more she gets to know you the more chatty and relaxed she becomes.[/QUOTE]Wonder could you provide costs, tips expected and services rendered?
She charges a flat rate of 120/ hr, including HE. Top always comes off and undie also comes off after a couple of visits. CBJ may also be available after a while. I have tried and tried, but FS has been off limits. I have tipped up to 60 for a total of 180, depending on the service. But, know that YMMV depending on the the connection and how she feels about you.
[QUOTE=Nyped96;5765577]She charges a flat rate of 120/ hr, including HE. Top always comes off and undie also comes off after a couple of visits. CBJ may also be available after a while. I have tried and tried, but FS has been off limits. I have tipped up to 60 for a total of 180, depending on the service. But, know that YMMV depending on the the connection and how she feels about you.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the info! Definitely sounds like a good one, at a fair price! Another one with HE and hour massage for $120 or less. Time to start a list of $120 or below HE places. Wonder Spa off of Plainfield, Tuinaa Spa Joy and now Delilah are 2 recent reports.
Recently saw Avaa at Panacea after hoping our schedules would align for quite some time. Really sweet girl with a beautiful smile. However, menu seemed to be really limited on the roaming front. Great personality, but based on menu, Natalie is still tops for me.
Have wanted to try pregnant Melissa for awhile. Does anyone know if she's still working?
Be careful out there.
[QUOTE=DetroitBrian;5766229]Recently saw Avaa at Panacea after hoping our schedules would align for quite some time. Really sweet girl with a beautiful smile. However, menu seemed to be really limited on the roaming front. Great personality, but based on menu, Natalie is still tops for me.
Have wanted to try pregnant Melissa for awhile. Does anyone know if she's still working?
Be careful out there.[/QUOTE]Not sure if she's still in. I think she was due like last week.
Kayla is very cute.
Hey everyone,
I've been reading your guys stuff. Who do you think is the best provider in the area, with reasonable prices??.
[QUOTE=DrDas;5766578]Hey everyone,
I've been reading your guys stuff. Who do you think is the best provider in the area, with reasonable prices??.[/QUOTE]Everyone has a different opinion of who is the best bang for the buck.
Just RTFF, go out and play.
Report back with your opinion.
[QUOTE=Benz1;5767267]Everyone has a different opinion of who is the best bang for the buck.
Just RTFF, go out and play.
Report back with your opinion.[/QUOTE]Agree 100%. There is a ton of good talent, and a ton of range in this quiet, conservative, sleepy little town.
Also depends on what you mean by "service" and "reasonable price". Way too much variance there. Also, are you looking for a fun massage, or an escort who advertises massage? If the latter, this is the wrong thread.
Just read back a few pages, and you will find many suggestions. One is sure to fit your definitions of those terms. And after you try a visit, report back. After you do, you will get better information as a contributor, rather than a one post newbie.
Enjoy, and welcome to the site!
I had a chance to see both Persia and Jaida at Luxe spa. Both were very sexy and excellent curves. I preferred Persia over jaida but couldn't go wrong with either. However jaida did short me on time about 15 minutes (deed was done) but I hopefully it's not a habit. Will for sure see Persia. Been waiting to see when Brianna is going to be on the schedule and try her out. Haven't seen any info on her in the forums yet. Damage is hefty at this place but at the least the talent is sexy as hell.
It is just a quick plane ride away, and the weather here is nice and warm (84 today). I flew down from Traverse City for a week of cycling, and I checked out the reports on USA Sex Guide Orlando. There are many more escort offerings than there are up north, but more importantly the AMP scene is amazing. Let me tell you about a dream I had at MM. It was $200 for 45 minutes at the door. They brought me into a room and had me get naked. A sensational Chinese woman who spoke great English came in naked and kissed me sticking her tongue in my mouth as an introduction. She then leads me to the table shower where she cleans me thoroughly paying special attention to my ass and genitals. Part of the scrubbing action was her rubbing herself all over me. After being rinsed off she starts kissing every inch of my body, and then proceeds to probe my ass with her tongue! Next was a great blow job (BBBJ). I told her to stop because I wanted to play with her body so we changed rooms. In the massage room we pretended to be in a porn film including BBBJ / CIM. I was in heaven. I eventually woke from my dream having been miraculously cleaned up from the wet dream. The best part is that I am 76 years old and could never be mistaken for Brad Pitt, but it didn't seem to matter to this lady. You could PM me for details if you are going to make the trip. The other thing you should do is read the Orlando section of the USA Sex Guide.
[QUOTE=BusterTc;5768115]It is just a quick plane ride away, and the weather here is nice and warm (84 today). I flew down from Traverse City for a week of cycling, and I checked out the reports on USA Sex Guide Orlando. There are many more escort offerings than there are up north, but more importantly the AMP scene is amazing. Let me tell you about a dream I had at MM. It was $200 for 45 minutes at the door. They brought me into a room and had me get naked. A sensational Chinese woman who spoke great English came in naked and kissed me sticking her tongue in my mouth as an introduction. She then leads me to the table shower where she cleans me thoroughly paying special attention to my ass and genitals. Part of the scrubbing action was her rubbing herself all over me. After being rinsed off she starts kissing every inch of my body, and then proceeds to probe my ass with her tongue! Next was a great blow job (BBBJ). I told her to stop because I wanted to play with her body so we changed rooms. In the massage room we pretended to be in a porn film including BBBJ / CIM. I was in heaven. I eventually woke from my dream having been miraculously cleaned up from the wet dream. The best part is that I am 76 years old and could never be mistaken for Brad Pitt, but it didn't seem to matter to this lady. You could PM me for details if you are going to make the trip. The other thing you should do is read the Orlando section of the USA Sex Guide.[/QUOTE]Amen! GR has some attractive talent but it lacks the range of services available in Orlando AMPs. Buster's description of services is accurate.
I tried to toftt with this stunning gal but not answering my calls. Anyone have any reports on her.
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[QUOTE=PurpMan61;5767646]I had a chance to see both Persia and Jaida at Luxe spa. Both were very sexy and excellent curves. I preferred Persia over jaida but couldn't go wrong with either. However jaida did short me on time about 15 minutes (deed was done) but I hopefully it's not a habit. Will for sure see Persia. Been waiting to see when Brianna is going to be on the schedule and try her out. Haven't seen any info on her in the forums yet. Damage is hefty at this place but at the least the talent is sexy as hell.[/QUOTE]What was the price damage?.
[QUOTE=CarlHannogan;5768201]I tried to toftt with this stunning gal but not answering my calls. Anyone have any reports on her.
[URL]https://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/massage/exotic/latina-gal-incall-spa/453200056037[/URL][/QUOTE]Shapely Latina. Probably late 20's. Works out of Five Star on Plainfield. Also does free lance out of her home with a few other providers. Comms can be difficult. Prices that escalate for each additional item beyond a simple fully clothed massage.
But she's cute.
[QUOTE=GRSlinger11;5762963]Called and made an appt. Joy was available today. Massage is good, the ending is better. Clothes come almost off, you can touch and grab whatever but no FIV. She said business has been slow and might have to close. Keep this one open guys, one of the better in town for HE. Damage 60/60[/QUOTE]Went today, you must rate higher than some of us. Asked her to undress, would not. Had started with no-oil light rubbing on my backside which was mostly teasing, just what I wanted. Turned over to talk with her, she did more light teasing on my front side. Switched over again for oil massage on back, then flip for finish which she does well. Joy is very personable, from Thailand, good English but also hard to understand. Was able to finally get my hands under her shirt while she pumped me, got her bra up, really nice titties, good size and shape. Don't know if I will repeat.
1 hr / 60 Tip / 60.
[QUOTE=DrDas;5768334]What was the price damage?.[/QUOTE]Door fee is 60 for the half and 100 For the hour.
Persia was 150 for nude HJ and 400 for FS.
Jaida is 250 for CBJ and 400 for FS.
Can't speak on the difference for the other girls yet as I haven't seen them. One post mentioned earlier you can haggle, but that's what they start at.
I know I have not posted before but I have been on this board for several months. I guess it's time for me to contribute. I have seen Ava with 100 door fee and 200 more for FS, Jaida with 100 door fee and 250 more for FS, and Sasha 100 door fee 300 more for FS. All three of these women were great! Sasha was the best.
Past month I visited Luxe to see both Jaida and Ava on separate occasions.
Ava I would consider cute she isn't my cup of tea but beauty is in the eye of the beholder, she is cute with a nice figure which for most of us on here that's a 10/10.
Anyways I got HHR for half a Benjamin with extra BBBJ and fiv for I think $50 (can't remember). As far as enjoyment goes I mean gett a BJ is always fun but there isn't that connection or that "umphf' or whatever you call it. It was routine punch in for a job like attitude it may have been my first time meeting her but I had way more fun with the girls at body works by us on first meet of course multiple visits later or if your just that fun of a guy YMMV but we giving good donations especially here for us to. Have to be that guy. Last thing I say about Ava is that the f in fiv doesn't stand for freshness there wasn't any strong prudent smell in the air during but while putting my stuff I smelt my finger and good god! It was bad but it wasn't smelling up the room although which was weird.
Jaida experience was like the Ava experience she is cute, but the fun climaxes there it was the standard HE with serious GPS up sells 200+ for BJ after door fee and 400 for FS, no simply no. The worst part in my opinion thought is the thing that stood out to me about her pics from their ad was her amazing looking ass, plot spoiler it's fake not oh you can't really tell fake but literally each cheek was like a 20 pound bolder hard and doesn't move at all you would have to be the worlds Biggest BBC to get those cheeks to clap it's such an elephant in the room type situation that I'm SHOCKED that anyone who reviewed her didn't mention that.
Luxe imo is GPS capital of AMP they do have some BBU quality girls in looks department but everything else is just subpar especially for the prices they are offering.
TRied olivia at lux she saif it was her first day. Super young and tiny. Asked what I was into I said I usually come for FS. Next thinng I know she's on top of me riding me bb. I figured wth and rolled with it. I told her to rub her self till she came and I finished on her belly. Super tigjt and super wet. Door fee an $$. 40 tip.
Hey everyone,
This if my first post. Been waiting to dive in. I've searched for any info in this Chanel Marie. Can't find any reviews or major red flags, that I see anyway. Does anyone have any insight for this one. She's in my neck of the woods and I'm looking to partake.
Thanks team!
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