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[QUOTE=AtlantaFunGuy;5959786]Thank you for your thoughtful and informative posting. In my attempt to respond to Nite's "it doesn't matter" comment, I definitely generalized a tad too much.
LOL I guess I am somewhat jaded (and turned off) or biased by so many dirty, old shops that often makes me wonder how they ever pass building code inspections and all the "senior citizen" staffs that look more like an AARP Sign-Up than an appealing lineup of attractive young women!
Actually, I do know several shop owners and enjoy those conversations. But, they all have younger, attractive girls than what I was referring to. It just seems like day after day on this site, so many guys are constantly chatting about and pursuing aging and unattractive women that receive considerable $$$ in relationship to their assets and services provided.
Hopefully, Atlanta can become a desired destination once again for massage and spa workers![/QUOTE]We had some great AMP"s in Clayton County from the '80's through the early 20's until they were driven out by Victor Hill.
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[QUOTE=AtlantaFunGuy;5959786]Actually, I do know several shop owners and enjoy those conversations. But, they all have younger, attractive girls than what I was referring to. It just seems like day after day on this site, so many guys are constantly chatting about and pursuing aging and unattractive women that receive considerable $$$ in relationship to their assets and services provided.
Hopefully, Atlanta can become a desired destination once again for massage and spa workers![/QUOTE]If it was easy to hire and retain young, hot girls then all the shops would do it. It's not. The talent pool in ATL is thin. In fact, it's thin in most major cities in the US with very few exceptions. Go look at the boards in other cities and mongers complain about all the owls working.
We will see what ML looks like in a year. Hopefully they find a way to retain talent.
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[QUOTE=TheWiseacre;5959950]If it was easy to hire and retain young, hot girls then all the shops would do it. It's not. The talent pool in ATL is thin. In fact, it's thin in most major cities in the US with very few exceptions. Go look at the boards in other cities and mongers complain about all the owls working.
We will see what ML looks like in a year. Hopefully they find a way to retain talent.[/QUOTE]I totally agree. Massage Legend is the flavor of the month and I hope they can maintain good talent. Just wish the shop was closer to me!
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[QUOTE=AtlantaFunGuy;5959786]Thank you for your thoughtful and informative posting. In my attempt to respond to Nite's "it doesn't matter" comment, I definitely generalized a tad too much.
LOL I guess I am somewhat jaded (and turned off) or biased by so many dirty, old shops that often makes me wonder how they ever pass building code inspections and all the "senior citizen" staffs that look more like an AARP Sign-Up than an appealing lineup of attractive young women!
Actually, I do know several shop owners and enjoy those conversations. But, they all have younger, attractive girls than what I was referring to. It just seems like day after day on this site, so many guys are constantly chatting about and pursuing aging and unattractive women that receive considerable $$$ in relationship to their assets and services provided.
Hopefully, Atlanta can become a desired destination once again for massage and spa workers![/QUOTE]It's been declining over the past 20+ years, what makes you think it'll turn around or are you new at this?
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[QUOTE=Niteluvr;5959421]I never suggested that ML or any other parlor cruises Greyhound stations looking for talent. Many CAMP girls answer online ads in China, get over here, and move from city to city doing massages until they can become independent. If they become legal and established, they're free to go and work where they please. Why would a model-quality woman be desperate enough to work at a CAMP? Seems they'd have better options. At the very least, they could find a Chinese or American sugar daddy to take care of them.[/QUOTE]Come on night! Get with it man. I was being sarcastic! Mainly because of your "no need to fuck with a sound business model" statement. Maybe you are satisfied and don't mind driving all over the Atlanta metro area day after day to find the same aging faces recycling from shop to shop?
Not me! I think that approach absolutely sucks! And accordingly, I was simply praising Ms. Wang for her creative approach of attempting to acquire new talent. It worked! Now all of us just need to sit back and see if any of those beauties can transition into the world of Atlanta massage shops. Time will tell.
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[QUOTE=SkyWookie;5959783]My experience is the opposite, the owners I've known both Chinese and Korean work hard to rotate girls from places like New York periodically, sure they have their "staff" girls but often used to try to bring in fresh talent, but ever since the shootings girls from other areas don't want to come to Atlanta, it's got a bad reputation in the massage world. Had a long conversation with the owner of IYV on Cheshire bridge about 6 months after the shooting, she used to rotate in a NY girl every few months and send the old one back, then none of the girls from the north would come anymore, that's not an isolated shop it's actually very common. While we may not think about the shooting every time we go to a shop, they still talk about it. A few months back I was in Las Vegas and went to a parlor, they asked where I was from, I told them and they immediately were like "oh girls get killed there, not safe place."[/QUOTE]Very true, this was news that went worldwide, they won't forget about it anytime relatively soon.
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[QUOTE=AtlantaFunGuy;5959786]Thank you for your thoughtful and informative posting. In my attempt to respond to Nite's "it doesn't matter" comment, I definitely generalized a tad too much.
LOL I guess I am somewhat jaded (and turned off) or biased by so many dirty, old shops that often makes me wonder how they ever pass building code inspections and all the "senior citizen" staffs that look more like an AARP Sign-Up than an appealing lineup of attractive young women!
Actually, I do know several shop owners and enjoy those conversations. But, they all have younger, attractive girls than what I was referring to. It just seems like day after day on this site, so many guys are constantly chatting about and pursuing aging and unattractive women that receive considerable $$$ in relationship to their assets and services provided.
Hopefully, Atlanta can become a desired destination once again for massage and spa workers![/QUOTE]Wouldn't you mind pm me the name of the MPs where I can find young talents. Much appreciated!
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[QUOTE=RomeoMonger;5959664]I've been to ML a few times and never bothered to get the persons name since the talent is better than other places. This time around, I got her name. Monica. She was great with the massage and did a very sensual HE. No rush to it at all. Got the full hour. OTC bottom and UTC top. They just raised their price tk $70/ hr.
Anyone gotten 4 hand here? What do you usually tip for 4 hand in general?[/QUOTE]$70? Are they on glue?
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I Win massage
Anyone have luck with the new girl? Anna and Kim are my usual but the new one looks tasty. Name is cc I think.
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[QUOTE=ChinaLove123;5960245]Anyone have luck with the new girl? Anna and Kim are my usual but the new one looks tasty. Name is cc I think.[/QUOTE]I've had some success with Anna, but she's not what I'm looking for in a provider. A little too big all around, but her tits are surprisingly decent. Never even had a hint of anything possible with Kim, but I'd sure like to!
I saw another one there a while back, and she was allegedly Kim's real life sister. She was totally cool, but I didn't get a vibe that extras were available.
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[QUOTE=TimeToPost;5960258]I've had some success with Anna, but she's not what I'm looking for in a provider. A little too big all around, but her tits are surprisingly decent. Never even had a hint of anything possible with Kim, but I'd sure like to!
I saw another one there a while back, and she was allegedly Kim's real life sister. She was totally cool, but I didn't get a vibe that extras were available.[/QUOTE]Yeh. Anna is a big girl! But gives a great HJ. New girl is hotter than Kim. Thanks for the feedback.
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[QUOTE=AtlantaFunGuy;5959997]Come on night! Get with it man. I was being sarcastic! Mainly because of your "no need to fuck with a sound business model" statement. Maybe you are satisfied and don't mind driving all over the Atlanta metro area day after day to find the same aging faces recycling from shop to shop?
Not me! I think that approach absolutely sucks! And accordingly, I was simply praising Ms. Wang for her creative approach of attempting to acquire new talent. It worked! Now all of us just need to sit back and see if any of those beauties can transition into the world of Atlanta massage shops. Time will tell.[/QUOTE]Everyone wants hot parlors everywhere but those times are long gone. If you want to compare the parlor scene today with just 6 years ago, there is no comparison. As I said, time will tell if ML can maintain their talent level. Plan to stop by next week to check it out.
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[QUOTE=Niteluvr;5960281]How many accounts do you have now, multi-banned?[/QUOTE]About as many as the shops you've been banned from Mr. Persona non grata. Or is it GGJ?
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[QUOTE=Niteluvr;5960305]Everyone wants hot parlors everywhere but those times are long gone. If you want to compare the parlor scene today with just 6 years ago, there is no comparison. As I said, time will tell if ML can maintain their talent level. Plan to stop by next week to check it out.[/QUOTE]Thanks night! You mentioned stopping by ML next week? I don't want to mislead you or anyone else. None of those girls have joined ML. At best, I believe one, maybe two will in the future. It's a new concept that has not become reality yet. If it wasn't for that one customer posting, nobody would even know. The girls were actually interviewed offsite for several reasons including possible business disruption; not really fair to customers.
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[QUOTE=SkyWookie;5959783]My experience is the opposite, the owners I've known both Chinese and Korean work hard to rotate girls from places like New York periodically, sure they have their "staff" girls but often used to try to bring in fresh talent, but ever since the shootings girls from other areas don't want to come to Atlanta, it's got a bad reputation in the massage world. Had a long conversation with the owner of IYV on Cheshire bridge about 6 months after the shooting, she used to rotate in a NY girl every few months and send the old one back, then none of the girls from the north would come anymore, that's not an isolated shop it's actually very common. While we may not think about the shooting every time we go to a shop, they still talk about it. A few months back I was in Las Vegas and went to a parlor, they asked where I was from, I told them and they immediately were like "oh girls get killed there, not safe place."[/QUOTE]That fear of ATL from the shootings is old news. There are many risk-averse girls for many reasons that are bigger than that; COVID literally restricted the amount of new talent to arrive in the US, the strangling of parlors by governments (Johns Creek, Duluth, Roswell, Norcross, Peachtree Corners et al) is a bigger rumor / fear than some monger who went nuts. Bringing in temporary talent from NYC (really the only city anyone does that) is a long standing practice and now that NYC basically doesn't prosecute FS is another dagger in the heart. You can make a lot more money in 3 months in NYC than you can down here.
Add in: losing Backpages and Creative Loafing. Easy advertising that even Broken Engrish could figure out is lonnggggggg gone. Wives with Life 360 or Find My and 24/7 security from Ring makes things harder for Pro Mongers to chase trim. It's harder than ever for providers to pimp their trade.
ML is the hot brand and the girls haven't been poached yet. The infighting for clients probably hasn't begun. The pettiness amongst girls, the greed, the temptation to bring a book of clients to another shop hasn't even started yet.
In the end it's all about retaining the talent and that business model is much more simple than has been depicted in the many posts about ML. That model is that it's the girls that make the bags and not the shop.