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but near impossible to access the goodies UTC. [/QUOTE]That's the point exactly. They are trying to remain in business by adhering to the NEW rules.
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but near impossible to access the goodies UTC. [/QUOTE]That's the point exactly. They are trying to remain in business by adhering to the NEW rules.
[QUOTE=HornyAsHell;3137843]Well, I'll take a minute to answer since some people will take the time to post BUT purposely be of no use at all. Every time I've been there they are wearing yoga pants and a tshirt. Nothing "sexy" since it's a "legit" place etc but the yoga pants do show the body off (assuming they have one LOL) and the shirt will show a bit of cleavage etc. This "uniform" works well for the table shower etc plus back walking etc.[/QUOTE]"Sec. 14-. Sanitation and Decency code.
(a) All Personnel who are engaged in the practice of Body Works shall wear garments which cover the entire body, exclusive of the head, neck, arms, legs, hands and feet. All Personnel must be fully covered from a point not more than four inches above the center of the kneecap to the base of the neck, excluding the arms. Such garments shall not be transparent and must be maintained in clean and sanitary condition. ".
Seems pretty useful to me. But what do I know I only have 47 posts.
[QUOTE=OreoCookie;3138374]Skin tight spandex tops and shorts. Sure, it's sexy and water resistant, but near impossible to access the goodies UTC. I'd rather have the looser tops, short shirts with cotton panties of the old days.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=HornyAsHell;3137843] Every time I've been there they are wearing yoga pants and a tshirt. Nothing "sexy" since it's a "legit" place etc but the yoga pants do show the body off. [/QUOTE]It seems the style of dress at this place is not entirely consistent. I guess I'll have to take my chances the next time I'm in town.
Recently got stuck with Bonnie and she wasn't wearing yoga pants at all but thin cotton slacks instead. I haven't seen anybody wearing shorts or anything BUT yoga pants at all until just recently.
BTW, I will never ever accept her again either. First of all, she's a good 40-50 lbs heavier than the others that work there and her technique isn't as good as the rest of them. Not even close, the table shower was lame, massage barely adequate and she spent so much time playing with my ass I thought she was getting ready to either toss my salad or pull out a strap on :(
Then when she actually got on the table I was afraid she was going to try the back walk and that would've killed me. I mean she is cute for a bbw and she does have some big natural tits but that's all that was good. She didn't even help me get dressed like most of them do.
[QUOTE=ChoirBoy;3139046]It seems the style of dress at this place is not entirely consistent. I guess I'll have to take my chances the next time I'm in town.[/QUOTE]
I'm thinking of making an appointment with a gorgeous Latina spinner. I can't post a link but if you go to Providence Massage (not body rubs) type in Victoria and her ad shows up. Title reads "I'm Back! Latina massage graduate looking for buddy". I'm not expecting anything sexual, all I want is a cute girl for a decent massage and most importantly, not to run into trouble. Please, if you know anything about her let me know. Thanks.
[QUOTE=Ambrose;3140531]I'm thinking of making an appointment with a gorgeous Latina spinner. I can't post a link but if you go to Providence Massage (not body rubs) type in Victoria and her ad shows up. Title reads "I'm Back! Latina massage graduate looking for buddy". I'm not expecting anything sexual, all I want is a cute girl for a decent massage and most importantly, not to run into trouble. Please, if you know anything about her let me know. Thanks.[/QUOTE]Any luck with this lady, Was thinking of attending class with her. Is worth a try.
[URL]http://providence.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/im-back-latina-massage-graduate-looking-for-buddy/5942224[/URL]
Any word on a new line up or return of old ones. Had Julie twice, very nic, looking for a more attentive soft touch tease like Lee or Jackie. Skinny, tight body nice calves.
[QUOTE=Ambrose;3140531]I'm thinking of making an appointment with a gorgeous Latina spinner. I can't post a link but if you go to Providence Massage (not body rubs) type in Victoria and her ad shows up. Title reads "I'm Back! Latina massage graduate looking for buddy". I'm not expecting anything sexual, all I want is a cute girl for a decent massage and most importantly, not to run into trouble. Please, if you know anything about her let me know. Thanks.[/QUOTE]Ok, I got a little help but so far no one has seen her, or just isn't saying so. Maybe I should have posted on BP, I'll try that.
Hadn't been to Harmony in at least 6 years, maybe a little more. Today's visit reaffirmed why and so I doubt I'll ever go back again. Now I recall that long ago it was a great place that took a dive it never recovered from.
On my visit today I drew "Chrissie", a tall skinny good looking (though not what I'd classify as beautiful) lady originally from Cheongju, South Korea who was very difficult to understand. She looked to be mid to late 20's, so was probably mid to late 30's, nice smile and bolt on pretty hard Cs that looked out of place on such a skinny body.
Table shower was barely adequate, and things went downhill from there. Does not seem they're encouraging repeat customers and so I won't disappoint them. Definitely not a place I'd recommend.
If you haven't heard Pawtucket is about to go after their AMPs.
[URL]http://www.valleybreeze.com/2016-11-15/pawtucket/city-begins-enforcement-body-works-ordinance-month[/URL]
[QUOTE=FlyDangler;3155972]If you haven't heard Pawtucket is about to go after their AMPs.
[URL]http://www.valleybreeze.com/2016-11-15/pawtucket/city-begins-enforcement-body-works-ordinance-month[/URL][/QUOTE]A quote from the article:
"City Councilors Tim Rudd and Sandra Cano have long pushed for the ordinance, saying the body works spas are [B] being used to exploit women [/B]and could be being used for sex trafficking." (emphasis added)
"exploit women"? I think they have it backwards. If anything massage parlors, strip clubs, etc exploit men by emptying our wallets.
[QUOTE=JackADogov;3156029]A quote from the article:
"City Councilors Tim Rudd and Sandra Cano have long pushed for the ordinance, saying the body works spas are [B] being used to exploit women [/B]and could be being used for sex trafficking." (emphasis added)
"exploit women"? I think they have it backwards. If anything massage parlors, strip clubs, etc exploit men by emptying our wallets.[/QUOTE]Sounds like they got till January.
[QUOTE=HappyDave;3156750]Sounds like they got till January.[/QUOTE]Smiler's found a work around. Maybe I'm wrong but I wouldn't be surprised if at least one of the pawtucket spa's did too. Too much money involved not to. How hard is it to get some licensed people? I wonder how this effects places like opulence that are borderline. I'm assuming they have at least some licensed therapists. I guess it's also debatable if extra's are available there consistently and from whom.
Hey guys so I'm a massage place virgin, never been to any kind like an AMP or even a legit chain massage place but I like the attractive girls at Opulence. I understand going there means no extras which I'm fine with I am actually just looks for a good massage from a hot girl bc I do have back soreness that could use a good rub down. Any recommendation on who to see or if there's another place that would be better. I just saw the opulence site and Facebook page and like the attractive girls. Plus it's a good location I wouldn't have to travel far.
Thanks.
Cowboy.
*Perhaps* FE and Harmony can find a work around, but not doing business as FE and Harmony. My guess is that both will close down. The same operators may open again in different locations. But the city is determined to shut these places down. The AMPs have no interest in being in a bright spotlight.
Yes, it's big money. But that doesn't mean that the money has to stay in Rhode Island. This could easily become an AMP dead zone.
[QUOTE=LatinHunt;3156822]Smiler's found a work around. Maybe I'm wrong but I wouldn't be surprised if at least one of the pawtucket spa's did too. Too much money involved not to. How hard is it to get some licensed people? I wonder how this effects places like opulence that are borderline. I'm assuming they have at least some licensed therapists. I guess it's also debatable if extra's are available there consistently and from whom.[/QUOTE]
Did a stop recently, drew a heavy set girl, name started with a P I think. Decent overall from what can be expected here now I think. Maybe if you went enough, but she was pretty set on just a handy and I knew that going in. But she did not just jackhammer it home and seemed to understand all the little things that make it better.
So even if RI loses all the FS hopefully they can maintain this quality.
[QUOTE=LatinHunt;3156822]Smiler's found a work around. Maybe I'm wrong but I wouldn't be surprised if at least one of the pawtucket spa's did too. Too much money involved not to. How hard is it to get some licensed people? I wonder how this effects places like opulence that are borderline. I'm assuming they have at least some licensed therapists. I guess it's also debatable if extra's are available there consistently and from whom.[/QUOTE]The problem is that the ordinance says that EVERYONE who gives a body rub needs to be licensed or registered with the city. For a place with longer term employees like opulence that's not a deal breaker, but for a place that turns over almost their entire staff every few weeks it's a lot of red tape. Especially given how little English some of the women speak. I honestly have no idea what spaworker's visa situations are but pretty sure most aren't US citizens, do if they don't have a work visa they technically can't work so they aren't going to be able to provide the info needed to get registered / certified.
[QUOTE=iamioman;3159682]The problem is that the ordinance says that EVERYONE who gives a body rub needs to be licensed or registered with the city. For a place with longer term employees like opulence that's not a deal breaker, but for a place that turns over almost their entire staff every few weeks it's a lot of red tape. Especially given how little English some of the women speak. I honestly have no idea what spaworker's visa situations are but pretty sure most aren't US citizens, do if they don't have a work visa they technically can't work so they aren't going to be able to provide the info needed to get registered / certified.[/QUOTE]Most of the girls I talked to, we usually chat a bit after the event and I have seen several, several times. They claim they only do this work at spa's away from there home towns since they do not want people to know what they do. When I mentioned the new rules they all say no problem we have license. Now I do doubt most the girls coming from new york will be getting RI individual license. As to their immigration status, most speak English better than you think, most came here legally and appear to have current status. Other than the ones that move on to the grandma shops we see in Quincy and Waltham type areas seems like the majority are 30 to 40 yo women spending a couple years to make some serious cash and then they are out. I'm guessing there will be a crack down, places will close, some will come back like smilers and over time things will loosen up to about NMS level of service at some. FS AMPs will be more like the AAMPs we see in Alston, Brighton and Quincy no more store fronts and they will open and close as LEO finds out and complaints are made. Only issue for mongers is they are not arresting us for store fronts like FE and Harmony. They will be making arrests and having stings for FS AAMPs. JMHO.
[QUOTE=HappyDave;3156750]Sounds like they got till January.[/QUOTE]I am dumbstruck as to how politicians & the media continually distort & manipulate the truth to serve their own agendas.
Check Rhode Island history and you'll find that the 1979 decriminalization was brought about by feminists and feminist organizations. Margo St James & the organization Coyote.
Coyote has been one of many organizations seeking to end the exploitation of sex workers. Such organizations have a successful track record of bringing safety, dignity, health and other benefits to this, largely female, labor group. Decriminalization, in many societies, takes the stigma and drama out of the otherwise clandestine trade imposing health standards, taxing the process and allowing sex workers to gain employment as individual entrepreneurs. Eliminating the pimped forced labor stereotype of American media.
Many / most advocates of legalization / decriminalization are feminists. They argue that the enlightenment shown by Rhode Island & others BETTERS women's safety, health, economics and freedom.
The political / media portrayal of forced service & exploitation just doesn't exist at the organized spa level. And they all know that.
Sad, the zealots have so manipulated this issue that to attempt a factual discussion is suicidal.
Dreamed that this afternoon, Far East was crowded. So went to Harmony, though I found the quality is less there. Understood the town is going to crack down after Thanksgiving. Got to line up. Found two okay, too hot, and the third, coco, a solid 9. She is 26, great face, almost red hair, taller than most, thin, but not too thin, athletic, but not muscular. TS, good massage, heavy on the back, cracking shoulders kind of thing, but good, great backside and perfect Cs. Standard fee rangement, CBJ, FS, quality service. Thorough clean up. Home run hit, I would highly recommend. She has 2 months of a tour remaining.
Has anyone spent time with Laura Lake in Rhode Island area. How was experience.
[URL]http://providence.backpage.com/BodyRubs/your-new-best-friend-gorgeous-40-year-old-body-rub-provider-with-great-hands-try-something-new/6314985[/URL]
[URL]http://classyencounters.wixsite.com/lauralake[/URL]
[QUOTE=HappyDave;3159920]...As to their immigration status, most speak English better than you think, most came here legally and appear to have current status. [/QUOTE]I don't mean that any are here illegally. Despite the press, I don't believe woman at any of the spas in RI are being trafficked or are under duress.
I am not an immigration expert, but my understanding is that unless you have a green card or a work visa you aren't allowed to have a job or work in the US. It's harder to get a work visa than it is a tourist or student visa neither of which let you work (student visas allow some work but are usually limited to student jobs related to where they are going to school). AFAIK work visas are specific and only for a specific job, I can't see the US government officially granting work visas to women who do body rubs. If they have work visas to do something different they are eligible for deportation.
Maybe they all have green cards, what do I know?
[QUOTE=iamioman;3161936]I don't mean that any are here illegally. Despite the press, I don't believe woman at any of the spas in RI are being trafficked or are under duress.
I am not an immigration expert, but my understanding is that unless you have a green card or a work visa you aren't allowed to have a job or work in the US. It's harder to get a work visa than it is a tourist or student visa neither of which let you work (student visas allow some work but are usually limited to student jobs related to where they are going to school). AFAIK work visas are specific and only for a specific job, I can't see the US government officially granting work visas to women who do body rubs. If they have work visas to do something different they are eligible for deportation.
Maybe they all have green cards, what do I know?[/QUOTE]A lot if them go back and forth to China and south Korea a lot so something is proper.
I'm no immigration expert either, but based on my dealings with spa girls, most who come here enter the US on tourist visas, and then, some of them go through "fake" marriages (to US citizens) and get provisional green cards. Actually, I too were propositioned for a marriage when I was living in Houston, for a fee of course, though I didn't go through with it. (One failed marriage was enough for me!) So, the ones who have been living here for some time probably do have green cards, and it wouldn't be a problem for them to get a license and work legally.
It's a well organized system. God bless America!
I should also mention...tourist visas are short term. I think, 6 months, and perhaps, can be extended for another 6. So if they can't go through a marriage during this initial stay, they will have to go back, and the cycle continues. And of course, the ones who are here on tourist visas cannot work legally.
[QUOTE=HappyDave;3162004]A lot if them go back and forth to China and south Korea a lot so something is proper.[/QUOTE]Yeah, like I said. I believe all the women working at RI spas are in the country legally so of course they can come and go (subject to visa restrictions of course), I just said I would be surprised if they all can WORK in the US legally. Obviously if they are citizens or have green cards they can work.
[QUOTE=Caddilacboy1;3161082]Has anyone spent time with Laura Lake in Rhode Island area. How was experience.
[URL]http://providence.backpage.com/BodyRubs/your-new-best-friend-gorgeous-40-year-old-body-rub-provider-with-great-hands-try-something-new/6314985[/URL]
[URL]http://classyencounters.wixsite.com/lauralake[/URL][/QUOTE]Haven't spent time with her though was interested by her ad until I checked our her website. Her rate is $250 for 90 m and she says she's NOT full service. $250 for a massage even with a HE is ridiculously expensive imo.
Stopped in the other day and got Julie again for third time in a row. From the sauna saw some great leggs walk by. Saw the hole package on the way out. Nice face chest and leggs, light colored hair. Just a hair thicker than the spinners I like but want to take a test spin. Anyone know who I'm talking about let me know.
[QUOTE=HappyDave;3163165]Stopped in the other day and got Julie again for third time in a row. From the sauna saw some great leggs walk by. Saw the hole package on the way out. Nice face chest and leggs, light colored hair. Just a hair thicker than the spinners I like but want to take a test spin. Anyone know who I'm talking about let me know.[/QUOTE]I think you'll have better luck calling the place and talking to the mamasam about the girl you saw. She'll most likely know who you're talking about and be able to hook you up.
[QUOTE=LatinHunt;3163279]I think you'll have better luck calling the place and talking to the mamasam about the girl you saw. She'll most likely know who you're talking about and be able to hook you up.[/QUOTE]As bussy as they have been I figured someone on this board had her. There was a similar one but ugly as hell, last time I asked Moma was not pleased with what I saw when I showed. Asked for a lineup and saw summer and was a happy reunion. Last time ove only Julie and this new young one were the only good looking talent. Though the ugly short haired blond did have a smoking body.
[QUOTE=iamioman;3162441]Haven't spent time with her though was interested by her ad until I checked our her website. Her rate is $250 for 90 m and she says she's NOT full service. $250 for a massage even with a HE is ridiculously expensive imo.[/QUOTE]I'm taking you are saying she is a HE?
You're OBVIOUSLY new and very inexperienced. You really should READ more before posting stuff that's so obvious and makes you seem dumb.
"HE" written like that (especially in massage section) means HAPPY ENDING. Go and read the acronyms and slang sex terms newb since everyone posts with those to save time.
I'll even add a link to make it easy for all newbs
http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/custompages.php?pageid=Abbreviations
[QUOTE=Caddilacboy1;3164110]I'm taking you are saying she is a HE?[/QUOTE]
Anyone been? I'm thinking about stopping in and scoping out the scene. Any info is appreciated. Thanks.
I tried to connect with Shelby, but she didn't respond so I hit up Lauren ([URL]http://providence.backpage.com/BodyRubs/soothing-and-relaxing-body-works-discreet-and-professional-excellent-service/6189405[/URL]) as I've been seeing her sporadically for years and I knew she'd be a sure thing, if a little overpriced and rushed. Quoted me $120 for HH but neglected to mention that Repose charges $45 house fee. Fortunately I had it on me. Lauren looks as good as ever, she mentioned that she started at Simple Pleasures with Gina when she was 18 and she just turned 25 and I believe it, if she told me she was 20 I'd believe it. Her body is tight; small bee's and a great little ass. Starts the rub fully clothed but once I reminded her that we knew each other she relaxed and stripped down to her thong only. She remarked that more would be available on subsequent trips but wouldn't go into specifics / price. Might be worth exploring if I'm ever feeling rich, which I expect will be never. My only real complaint and hesitation in seeing her at this location again is on the finish, she shushed me (I tend to be loud.) If I could connect with her outside of Repose it might be worth exploring.
Has anyone had experience with Shelby? ([URL]http://providence.backpage.com/BodyRubs/early-morning-specials-body-works-by-shelby-let-my-hands-melt-your-stress-away/6337048[/URL]) I'm trying to determine if she's gone independent or if she too is still operating out of Repose.
I traded texts with Shelby this morning. She gave me a residential address in Pawtucket. But then her responses got slow so I gave up for now.
[QUOTE=BarebakRussian;3168316]I tried to connect with Shelby, but she didn't respond so I hit up Lauren ([URL]http://providence.backpage.com/BodyRubs/soothing-and-relaxing-body-works-discreet-and-professional-excellent-service/6189405[/URL]) as I've been seeing her sporadically for years and I knew she'd be a sure thing, if a little overpriced and rushed. Quoted me $120 for HH but neglected to mention that Repose charges $45 house fee. Fortunately I had it on me. Lauren looks as good as ever, she mentioned that she started at Simple Pleasures with Gina when she was 18 and she just turned 25 and I believe it, if she told me she was 20 I'd believe it. Her body is tight; small bee's and a great little ass. Starts the rub fully clothed but once I reminded her that we knew each other she relaxed and stripped down to her thong only. She remarked that more would be available on subsequent trips but wouldn't go into specifics / price. Might be worth exploring if I'm ever feeling rich, which I expect will be never. My only real complaint and hesitation in seeing her at this location again is on the finish, she shushed me (I tend to be loud.) If I could connect with her outside of Repose it might be worth exploring.
Has anyone had experience with Shelby? ([URL]http://providence.backpage.com/BodyRubs/early-morning-specials-body-works-by-shelby-let-my-hands-melt-your-stress-away/6337048[/URL]) I'm trying to determine if she's gone independent or if she too is still operating out of Repose.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=iamioman;3162441]Haven't spent time with her though was interested by her ad until I checked our her website. Her rate is $250 for 90 m and she says she's NOT full service. $250 for a massage even with a HE is ridiculously expensive imo.[/QUOTE]Nothing about that ad or her site is genuine. The pictures in the ad are of actress / model Coco Austin (do a Google reverse image search on the last picture, the one with the red "dress") The text on her website describing her services is copy / pasted and I've seen that exact same text used on many similar sites. Guarantee you're not going to get anything like the service described there. BEST case scenario is probably a standard massage and HE like you would get at any AMP, only for twice the price. And definitely not from someone who looks anything like those pictures in the ad.
I've seen her outside of Repose. She was hot and talked dirty and was in a thong (though promised nude), but massage and manual HE were all over in 10 minutes (for an hour appointment). I'm guessing any upsells would be expensive and the experience would be very rushed.
[QUOTE=BarebakRussian;3168316]I tried to connect with Shelby, but she didn't respond so I hit up Lauren ([URL]http://providence.backpage.com/BodyRubs/soothing-and-relaxing-body-works-discreet-and-professional-excellent-service/6189405[/URL]) as I've been seeing her sporadically for years and I knew she'd be a sure thing, if a little overpriced and rushed. Quoted me $120 for HH but neglected to mention that Repose charges $45 house fee. Fortunately I had it on me. Lauren looks as good as ever, she mentioned that she started at Simple Pleasures with Gina when she was 18 and she just turned 25 and I believe it, if she told me she was 20 I'd believe it. Her body is tight; small bee's and a great little ass. Starts the rub fully clothed but once I reminded her that we knew each other she relaxed and stripped down to her thong only. She remarked that more would be available on subsequent trips but wouldn't go into specifics / price. Might be worth exploring if I'm ever feeling rich, which I expect will be never. My only real complaint and hesitation in seeing her at this location again is on the finish, she shushed me (I tend to be loud.) If I could connect with her outside of Repose it might be worth exploring.
Has anyone had experience with Shelby? ([URL]http://providence.backpage.com/BodyRubs/early-morning-specials-body-works-by-shelby-let-my-hands-melt-your-stress-away/6337048[/URL]) I'm trying to determine if she's gone independent or if she too is still operating out of Repose.[/QUOTE]
There are other ways besides marrying a citizen. My understanding is that there is black market for tourist visas in China. Once they are here (NYC / Flushing) they are referred to a Chinese lawyer who files a petition with immigration on their behalf. So long as the petition for resident alien status is pending, regardless of merit, the right to stay beyond the 6 month visa is permitted. The process may take several years. They cannot, however, come and go. Those that come and go do have "green cards. " On what basis green cards are granted I don't know. FWIW, I've heard that even men have been granted status by claiming persecution under the "one child rule. ".
Its a broken system for sure. Many begin working without work permits within a few days of arrival because they have too.
ARG.
[QUOTE=HTownHobbyist;3162155]I'm no immigration expert either, but based on my dealings with spa girls, most who come here enter the US on tourist visas, and then, some of them go through "fake" marriages (to US citizens) and get provisional green cards. Actually, I too were propositioned for a marriage when I was living in Houston, for a fee of course, though I didn't go through with it. (One failed marriage was enough for me!) So, the ones who have been living here for some time probably do have green cards, and it wouldn't be a problem for them to get a license and work legally.
It's a well organized system. God bless America!
I should also mention...tourist visas are short term. I think, 6 months, and perhaps, can be extended for another 6. So if they can't go through a marriage during this initial stay, they will have to go back, and the cycle continues. And of course, the ones who are here on tourist visas cannot work legally.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Prometheus77;3170431]Nothing about that ad or her site is genuine. The pictures in the ad are of actress / model Coco Austin (do a Google reverse image search on the last picture, the one with the red "dress") The text on her website describing her services is copy / pasted and I've seen that exact same text used on many similar sites. Guarantee you're not going to get anything like the service described there. BEST case scenario is probably a standard massage and HE like you would get at any AMP, only for twice the price. And definitely not from someone who looks anything like those pictures in the ad.[/QUOTE]Good catch.
She might as well steal Kim Kardashians pics, Coco is both nearly as recognizable and also has just as unreal a body no-one should ever expect to come across in even an over priced body-rub provider. Maybe on a +$hr escort in LV, LA or NYC.
Dropped in for my last time until the new year, which could be the last time. An attractive girl answered the door, still asked for a lineup, it was during the game so no other mongers were there. Had actually looked in the curtain on way in and they were all napping on the floor. Took a while to get them up for the lineup, all attractive, one a new cici was my pick. Everything was good not perfect not lee or Jackie. Big problem was she wanted to go right to the event after 15 min and took effort to put her off till the 45 min mark. I would put her on the expert monger level a newbie will be out the door in ten minutes.
Did she quote you a price?
[QUOTE=RhodyRob007;3168318]I traded texts with Shelby this morning. She gave me a residential address in Pawtucket. But then her responses got slow so I gave up for now.[/QUOTE]