Rants, Raves and Opinions AKA "The Octagon"

[QUOTE=SinfulDreams;2374665]So what he wants to attack me, because he hasn't met me. He has his right to his opinion, just like every one does. Probably not the best idea starting out on the board with a very well known and liked provider, but that is on him. I know my business is doing great, and I can't complain. My ads are precise, pictures are always accurate, and I have one of the best upscale incalls around, just to name a few.

I get everyone won't like me, and I am perfectly fine with that. I am not everyone's type, and then there are those that keep coming back for more, so I must be doing something right.

I actually was going to have a helmet on for my regular yesterday, but alas it didn't happen. Maybe I will start wearing that for appts? It could be kind of hot! Brick shit house, yes that would be me!! Barbara Streisand?? Eh I don't see so maybe you should meet me or chat with some of my regs.

At any rate, why don't we get back to what we all do best. You keep booking appts, and I will keep providing outstanding service, because that is just what I do. Now back to looking for the hoo ha![/QUOTE]Fuck the helmet. I want you in full uniform with pads. Then you chase me around the room tackling me. The possibilities are endless!

[QUOTE=SinfulDreams;2374665]So what he wants to attack me, because he hasn't met me. He has his right to his opinion, just like every one does. Probably not the best idea starting out on the board with a very well known and liked provider, but that is on him. I know my business is doing great, and I can't complain. My ads are precise, pictures are always accurate, and I have one of the best upscale incalls around, just to name a few.

I get everyone won't like me, and I am perfectly fine with that. I am not everyone's type, and then there are those that keep coming back for more, so I must be doing something right.[/QUOTE][BLUE]Again with the blue ink;

Sinful, you are at times a pain in my ass but I have to say this is a textbook example for how an advertiser should respond to a douchey comment. Ladies you would do well to take note, no fighting, no anger. She has her followers, she has lots of good reviews, if she's not this cats cup o tea she knows there are others who think she is.

When you ladies respond in anger it makes you sound like a shrew, ask yourself, will that tend to encourage or discourage guys from calling you?

At the end of the day it's a business, make the smart business decision.

A2[/BLUE]

[QUOTE=Admin2;2375507][BLUE]Again with the blue ink;

Sinful, you are at times a pain in my ass but I have to say this is a textbook example for how an advertiser should respond to a douchey comment. Ladies you would do well to take note, no fighting, no anger. She has her followers, she has lots of good reviews, if she's not this cats cup o tea she knows there are others who think she is.

When you ladies respond in anger it makes you sound like a shrew, ask yourself, will that tend to encourage or discourage guys from calling you?

At the end of the day it's a business, make the smart business decision.

A2[/BLUE][/QUOTE]OR it could be you got too close to her strap on Only the Shadow knows. LOL.

Another quality post.

Not sure why there are so many who seek streetwalkers. Especially with all these great providers around. Streetwalkers most likely the lowest of providers. When you have to resort to putting yourself out there in the streets, that is a big sign of desperation. And that reason of desperation links to pimps, users and crime. The more negativity you associate yourself with, no more likely you will find yourself in some kind of mess. Not to mention, a good deal of these bust are streetwalker related. I can't find myself associating with all that. In a way you are supporting the pimps and users. I've had some good providers who I later found out were users and I stopped seeing them. I guess if you're the type who disregards all else and just wants a cheap fuck.

[QUOTE=CloudStrife7;2379890]Not sure why there are so many who seek streetwalkers. Especially with all these great providers around. Streetwalkers most likely the lowest of providers. When you have to resort to putting yourself out there in the streets, that is a big sign of desperation. And that reason of desperation links to pimps, users and crime. The more negativity you associate yourself with, no more likely you will find yourself in some kind of mess. Not to mention, a good deal of these bust are streetwalker related. I can't find myself associating with all that. In a way you are supporting the pimps and users. I've had some good providers who I later found out were users and I stopped seeing them. I guess if you're the type who disregards all else and just wants a cheap fuck.[/QUOTE]I had the same view of SWs at one time. What you have to realize, though, is that all of these girls are in the same line of business. It is just a question of how they go about reaching the market. There are many, many high quality women that do not advertise and, for the most part, do not SW. However, some, when they get into financial straights, will do what is necessary. If a gal is exceptionally good looking and / or good at what she does, she will build a client base. Word gets around. She then may be able to stay at home and have her clients come to her without having to hit the streets again.

My approach is I never go looking for SWs. However, if I see a gal who is a head turner, I will pull over, chat a minute, get a vibe and then maybe give her my number or get hers. I NEVER pick up a gal I see on the street. But I will contact her later and go from there. It is not a bullet proof approach but it is a hell of a lot safer than simply pulling over and have her get in.

[QUOTE=CloudStrife7;2379890]Not sure why there are so many who seek streetwalkers. Especially with all these great providers around. Streetwalkers most likely the lowest of providers. When you have to resort to putting yourself out there in the streets, that is a big sign of desperation. And that reason of desperation links to pimps, users and crime. The more negativity you associate yourself with, no more likely you will find yourself in some kind of mess. Not to mention, a good deal of these bust are streetwalker related. I can't find myself associating with all that. In a way you are supporting the pimps and users. I've had some good providers who I later found out were users and I stopped seeing them. I guess if you're the type who disregards all else and just wants a cheap fuck.[/QUOTE]The only reason there are fewer SW is because of the Internet. It's that simple girls that would normally be walking the streets know they can get on BP NR or USASG CL or one of many online websites and get much better financial results. I have never gotten a girl from craigslist to me they are the equivalent of the SW. I don't pick up SW anymore I've gotten lazy I can do what I want to do and all I have to do is pick up my phone. But when I was picking up SW I found some gems and I remember when they were everywhere some of the prettiest girls you could find. I do know that heroin has taken a toll on these girls way worse than crack ever did. And there are so many Internet girls that are using and hide it very well, you don't know what a girl does with your money once you leave. And most of the girls on the street are selling themselves to support their own habit you would be surprised how many girls on the street that don't have pimps. The girls on McM are mostly transplants from different cities and counties since they are not from the area they have to rely on different people from the neighborhood to get by so yes if they make some money they will get somebody high to use their place or give up some cash or blo & go to sleep on the floor that's how it works the drug boys pay to work out of users or senior citizens homes everybody down on McM has a hustle to make it a very different neighborhood. But you take LPH, UPH, Elmwood Carthage those girls either grew up in that area or have family and friends there, most guys with them are junkie boyfriends but there are a lot of independent girls that are strung out its easier for them to crash at a friend or family members home because they know them. I understand what you are saying it is much safer all the way around to network thru the Internet but there are just as many escorts mentioned in the rip-off section as SW. HL29.

[QUOTE=CloudStrife7;2379890]Not sure why there are so many who seek streetwalkers. Especially with all these great providers around. Streetwalkers most likely the lowest of providers. When you have to resort to putting yourself out there in the streets, that is a big sign of desperation. And that reason of desperation links to pimps, users and crime. The more negativity you associate yourself with, no more likely you will find yourself in some kind of mess. Not to mention, a good deal of these bust are streetwalker related. I can't find myself associating with all that. In a way you are supporting the pimps and users. I've had some good providers who I later found out were users and I stopped seeing them. I guess if you're the type who disregards all else and just wants a cheap fuck.[/QUOTE]I have only dabbled in SW's. I have seen maybe about 7, and 4 of them were referrals from other mongers. From a monger's perspective, I think part of the attraction to SW's is in the hunt and the instant gratification of picking a girl up you see walking down the street who you find somewhat attractive. Another motivation is the low price if you stick to a car date, but it can be on par with a BP rate if you don't use your own place and have to rent a room. I think a lot of the girls who engage in SW do so because they don't have the resources, or are too strung out, to set themselves up to operate out of a motel.

[QUOTE=CloudStrife7;2379890]Not sure why there are so many who seek streetwalkers. Especially with all these great providers around. Streetwalkers most likely the lowest of providers. When you have to resort to putting yourself out there in the streets, that is a big sign of desperation. And that reason of desperation links to pimps, users and crime. The more negativity you associate yourself with, no more likely you will find yourself in some kind of mess. Not to mention, a good deal of these bust are streetwalker related. I can't find myself associating with all that. In a way you are supporting the pimps and users. I've had some good providers who I later found out were users and I stopped seeing them. I guess if you're the type who disregards all else and just wants a cheap fuck.[/QUOTE]There are many girls on BP and USASG that are merely a step from a streetwalker for the simple reason they have a smartphone, and access to the internet. Ten years ago, that same girl would be on the streets, at a 60% price reduction. I've, on occasion found BP, and USASG advertisers on the stroll.

[QUOTE=CloudStrife7;2379890]Not sure why there are so many who seek streetwalkers. Especially with all these great providers around. Streetwalkers most likely the lowest of providers. When you have to resort to putting yourself out there in the streets, that is a big sign of desperation. And that reason of desperation links to pimps, users and crime. The more negativity you associate yourself with, no more likely you will find yourself in some kind of mess. Not to mention, a good deal of these bust are streetwalker related. I can't find myself associating with all that. In a way you are supporting the pimps and users. I've had some good providers who I later found out were users and I stopped seeing them. I guess if you're the type who disregards all else and just wants a cheap fuck.[/QUOTE]I hope most if not all these guys answered your questions because they all were EXCELLENT points.

[QUOTE=LakersFan29;2380702]I hope most if not all these guys answered your questions because they all were EXCELLENT points.[/QUOTE]I also gone through the street walker thread. Definitely some interesting reads LOL.

And thanks for the replies. I wanted to see other's perspective on this. I see why some are into it. I have never personally tried any. I had a friend who always messed with them. He brought a few around sometimes. Some would get down for just a joint or nickle bag. So for sure can get some deals. I drive past those areas very often and I have yet to see a decent looking walker. It must be tough for you pirates out there, in search of your treasure / booty LOL. Well this forum is probably the best source for those who streetwalker mongers. Those online are probably the safest and have better luck. Still not for me. I try to stay away from any area where I feel like I may need to a piece with me. If I am in the somewhat no great area. It's at least going to be for some very well reviewed provider.

I haven't posted on the Octagon for a while, partly because I have been out of the Country for the past two weeks. Just before I left, I met up with Ashley, another Memphis lady. Like most of the ladies I visit, she also swallows! If you like her, I just posted more photos of her on the Memphis Escort Report Board, including one of her in action. I hope you enjoy her as much as I did.

Ladies please call me or pm me I have a LEO number that you might want to have. Call it a gut feeling or whatever you like but, will explain when you contact me. I will not give this info over text message.

Velvet Rayne.

Number on my ad.

This is a embarrassing topic but is pretty important.

Be careful when into cowgirl or reverse cg. There's many other positions but ones where girl on top is highest risk. Especially if she is not too experienced with it. I'd try to not let her do the moving if she is on top. Had 2 incidents. Both times when she was on top and doing the moving. First time it went limp but was back and ready after switching positions. But had slight pain later on that day. It went away soon though and it was back up and running with no problems. 2nd time it happened. It went limp and stayed limp. Even after changing positions. Tried to have intercourse the next day and it had trouble staying up. Would only stay up during BJ and HJ. Although there is no pain at all this time. No bruising, no bleeding. Nothing sever. So hopefully it's just a minor capillary.

Be careful how you move. Especially if you like rough sex.

Some good articles:

[URL]http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/science/science-news/11359960/Woman-on-top-is-most-dangerous-sex-position-scientists-conclude.html[/URL]

[URL]http://mensconfidence.com/2013/03/27/limp/[/URL]

A incident that happened during other position:

[URL]http://www.reddit.com/r/sex/comments/198ds1/ive_done_it_i_literally_broke_my_penis_while/[/URL]

I've heard through the grapevine that people are 'happy' with the way that the last few weeks of busts have been. And they're going to ramp up (temporarily) the regional narcotics unit / Vice unit in Cincinnati.

Try to be safe. With all of the girls who are turning and guys who are getting busted, it's hard to know who to trust. And unfortunately, the further underground it goes, generally speaking, the more dangerous it is.

MM.