Cell phones / Fake Towers
[QUOTE=Twisted69;2340296]Yes LEO can get those records. But only through the warrant process of probable cause scenario. The story about the fake towers also included the fact that there are portable devices (Stingrays) that are relatively small. Think briefcase size. They grab the signal and relay it to a tower and at the same time use half of the bandwidth to search recently used numbers. Only the big fake towers can withdraw contacts, messages, etc from the memory. And these fall under the auspices of Homeland security so different rules apply for the warrant process!! Hope that clears it up some.[/QUOTE]Didn't know that Home Land Security had any rules ;)
Receiving images by text with gv
If you have gv working with a gmail account, you can get a copy of the text in your email. The pictures that are texted will be received in the email.
I thought that was a cool feature!
I wanted to add that I use it in chrome, not via hangout app.
[QUOTE=JLZ61;2344605]I had looked into GV MMS a few weeks ago. Apparently it only does via Google Hangout, which I've yet to spend the time to figure out. Is that what you're talking about? Maybe I'll have to dig a little deeper.
There are two reasons a monger will want to cover his tracks - (a) to stay clear of the SO and (b) to stay clear of the provider. In my situation, should my SO really want to find out, although she would have to do some serious digging, she would able to do so. (Other than marrying me, she is no dummy. LOL.) Through sloth, I've left enough evidence. But I feel the likelihood is sufficiently low that I'm comfortable with my current risk profile. Carrying around a burner phone, however, would alert her to begin said digging and I would be toast. I'm sticking with GV for now.
I'm interested in being able to trade pics with a provider. Without revealing my identify. Currently, or until I figure out GV, I have to do it via a burner email account. I just want to be able to do this without having to resort to email or get a burner phone. Hence my question.
It sounds like there may not be a good answer (unless I figure out GV). Bummer! Thanks!![/QUOTE]
Human trafficking and operating a sexually oriented business without a license
Some of you may have noticed over the weekend coverage of Senator Rob Portman's speech at the National Underground Railroad Freedom Center about "human trafficking. " It sure looks like the feds timed to coincide with it new federal indictments charges against those guys in Price Hill who were busted for operating a "brothel. " The federal charges are for the same thing basically, though it was made to look in the media like new charges, just in time for Senator Rob's speech.
And I see that he and Senator Diane Feinstein of California introduced a Combat Human Trafficking bill into the US Senate on Nov. 19, the day after the Cincinnati police originally made those arrests here. There may well be some similar arrests and such that have gone on in California for show trial purposes. The bill aims to increase penalties on mongers who are involved in "human trafficking. " So far, however, I've yet to see any mongers charged in connection with these activities.
In the case of those Price Hill guys, it looks like there were actually four providers arrested in connection with that house, only two on hobby-related activities. The federal charges appear to owe to the fact that two of them lived in Northern Kentucky, so probably the guys involved drove them up I-75 to Price Hill. For this reason, Portman sees I-75 as a major conduit for human trafficking.
One of the two providers nabbed on soliciting charges at that house in November I see was also arrested again on Jan. 16, with the charge unsealed on Jan. 24, the same day as the federal indictments of the Price Hill guys. This was on a Cincinnati city charge -- Operating a Sexually Oriented Business Without a License -- 899-5 in the city code. Basically, they can make an arrest here if there's anything sexual at all going on -- without the need for you to offer sex for cash or perform any sex for cash. It turns out she was one of six arrests on these charges on Jan. 16. And there were another five arrested on the same charges in mid December. Mostly women, but some men who were likely the handlers. It's a crime under this statute both to operate a sexually oriented business and to be an employee of one, without a license, which has to be granted by the Cinicnnati city treasurer, and which, of course, no providers actually have. I think these were separate operations from the Price Hill bust, though given the lag between arrest and unsealing, they were again probably trying to pressure these folks to snitch on someone.
Other than the provider who was arrested both in Price Hill for soliciting and on the operating without a license, who I know to have worked as an escort in the past in Northern Kentucky, I don't recognize most of the providers busted in this "operating without a license" thing. The one other one out of eight or nine I do recognize was a BP advertiser operating out of the east side whose pictures I always figured were fake but turn out to be real. But I suspect that these busts were pretty much targeting the typical BP ripoff dance and self-service operations, which almost makes me happy, but not really. It would make sense though, since these are charges LEO could make on those girls, who wouldn't be doing any touching anyway.
But, lessons that might apply more broadly here are that doing outcall into Cincinnati or operating in the city limits in general may be getting more dangerous, since they can use this even more bogus city statute, along with the bogus operating a massage business without a license, which is also a city statute. It looks like charges brought under these statutes have been tossed as unconstitutional by courts in the past. But probably because they're getting extra federal money right now for this human-trafficking operation, the Cincinnati police will do just about anything, regardless of its likelihood of sticking. How much of the money may find its way into the suburban jurisdictions, I don't know.
Of course, LEO is also helping these women who are "victims" of "human trafficking" by prosecuting them to the fullest extent of the law on every trumped-up charge they can find.
Keep in mind charges do not have to filed right away or all at the same time
[QUOTE=Lugnutz;2345158]Some of you may have noticed over the weekend coverage of Senator Rob Portman's speech at the National Underground Railroad Freedom Center about "human trafficking. " It sure looks like the feds timed to coincide with it new federal indictments charges against those guys in Price Hill who were busted for operating a "brothel. " The federal charges are for the same thing basically, though it was made to look in the media like new charges, just in time for Senator Rob's speech.
And I see that he and Senator Diane Feinstein of California introduced a Combat Human Trafficking bill into the US Senate on Nov. 19, the day after the Cincinnati police originally made those arrests here. There may well be some similar arrests and such that have gone on in California for show trial purposes. The bill aims to increase penalties on mongers who are involved in "human trafficking. " So far, however, I've yet to see any mongers charged in connection with these activities.
In the case of those Price Hill guys, it looks like there were actually four providers arrested in connection with that house, only two on hobby-related activities. The federal charges appear to owe to the fact that two of them lived in Northern Kentucky, so probably the guys involved drove them up I-75 to Price Hill. For this reason, Portman sees I-75 as a major conduit for human trafficking.
One of the two providers nabbed on soliciting charges at that house in November I see was also arrested again on Jan. 16, with the charge unsealed on Jan. 24, the same day as the federal indictments of the Price Hill guys. This was on a Cincinnati city charge -- Operating a Sexually Oriented Business Without a License -- 899-5 in the city code. Basically, they can make an arrest here if there's anything sexual at all going on -- without the need for you to offer sex for cash or perform any sex for cash. It turns out she was one of six arrests on these charges on Jan. 16. And there were another five arrested on the same charges in mid December. Mostly women, but some men who were likely the handlers. It's a crime under this statute both to operate a sexually oriented business and to be an employee of one, without a license, which has to be granted by the Cinicnnati city treasurer, and which, of course, no providers actually have. I think these were separate operations from the Price Hill bust, though given the lag between arrest and unsealing, they were again probably trying to pressure these folks to snitch on someone.
Other than the provider who was arrested both in Price Hill for soliciting and on the operating without a license, who I know to have worked as an escort in the past in Northern Kentucky, I don't recognize most of the providers busted in this "operating without a license" thing. The one other one out of eight or nine I do recognize was a BP advertiser operating out of the east side whose pictures I always figured were fake but turn out to be real. But I suspect that these busts were pretty much targeting the typical BP ripoff dance and self-service operations, which almost makes me happy, but not really. It would make sense though, since these are charges LEO could make on those girls, who wouldn't be doing any touching anyway.
But, lessons that might apply more broadly here are that doing outcall into Cincinnati or operating in the city limits in general may be getting more dangerous, since they can use this even more bogus city statute, along with the bogus operating a massage business without a license, which is also a city statute. It looks like charges brought under these statutes have been tossed as unconstitutional by courts in the past. But probably because they're getting extra federal money right now for this human-trafficking operation, the Cincinnati police will do just about anything, regardless of its likelihood of sticking. How much of the money may find its way into the suburban jurisdictions, I don't know.
Of course, LEO is also helping these women who are "victims" of "human trafficking" by prosecuting them to the fullest extent of the law on every trumped-up charge they can find.[/QUOTE]Depending on the charge LEO can hold off filing charges for whatever the time period is for that particular classification.
