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[QUOTE=Ayenjael;2092769]Finally got a chance to try miso. Honestly I thought Sha Sha from ss was better. But it is nice to have younger picks like her.[/QUOTE]I've seen Miso not too long and Sha Sha few times when she was in town... To me, no comparison, Sha Sha is much hotter. Wish she'll coming back. Or is she back? I've not been to ss since she left.
[QUOTE=ShaggyJax;2092189]Thanks TenIsEnough. I think that you may have captured my thought process accurately. I believe, however, that she was the one that cut off communication, while I remained open to further negotiations. She didn't offer additional signs that any further negotiations were possible. She gave me a "take it or leave it" final, without ever offering what the final offer was...other than to let me know that my offer was not good enough. One thing that I did not include in my original post is that during negotiations, she also mentioned something along the lines of "plus you have to pay for shower and massage" which brought a "Huh?" from me, since I have always believed that those two items are what the 60/80 upfront fee is for, but I may be wrong. Anyway, my experience was quite frustrating, as have been most of my other visits to AMPs here in town (which only includes multiple visits to PT and a single visit to Nagel). But like you said, I cut my losses at 80 and left. According to Drew, I need to go more often to gain face recognition to build a better relationship, but my question is "How many times do I have to visit...and get nothing extra, before I get something extra?" And if I tip without getting anything (as if I'm tipping just the table shower and massage), how much money to I need to spend before they open up to further activities?[/QUOTE]You really can't buy love. No paticular amount of money will trip the lever opening up "further activities". Friendly feelings do that, and more.
[QUOTE=EaglesSb;2092637]I've been to Nagel, HnB (unfortunately), victora and PT and I always got something extra from it. The key is: a) Being kinda out of shape, b) playful / friendly negotiations, c) playing it cool (not being too much of a horn dog before negotiations), d) being known.
Remember the house fee has nothing to do with the girls, they get paid via tips. The lowest offer a AMP girl would take for FS is $, and that's for a below average chick. A high demand chick (Lucky, Miso, sky, etc) will demand $.60 to $ because believe it or not they do read these reviews and the more you rave about them the higher they can charge. Simple supply and demand.
BP girls and SWers are motivated by drugs / pimps and sometimes cause they need money badly, so you have leverage there, however AMP girls do it purely for money and if they're popular they won't need money as bad. So she can charge a premium and not lose out on much if she doesn't get it or has to negotiate down.
For a premium girl the lowest acceptable she'll take (from my experience) is $.20-40 especially if you say you don't have anymore with you (that's the friendliest way of saying take it or leave it), most of the time she'll agree cause you can't get what you don't have.
During negotiations, they rarely throw a number at you first. Of course they have their "price" in mind but will hold out for a better deal if you offer / allow it. After you put out your number, she will reply with her number. If your number is to low she will balk / act surprised, she will reply with a high number to see if you'll bite. If you offer her a number around the range they want they may accept or see if they can hold out and get a bit more.
Here's THE KEY, if you get a high price don't act shocked or outright say no, instead playfully say its too much. Then say $.20-40, she'll possibly hold out for .20 more which she may or may not stand her ground on. But for the most part that will be her price range and she'll agree.
If I had to rank the prices charged by the different industries the ranking would be:
1) High priced escort.
2) Stripper with T.O or private / VIP room.
3) AMP (house fee and provider).
4) Above average BP girl.
5) Average / Below average BP girl.
6) Above average SWer.
7) Typical / below average SWer.[/QUOTE]Great advice, and the Above avg BP girl seems to be the best value play depending on your taste.
[QUOTE=Ayenjael;2092769]Finally got a chance to try miso. Honestly I thought Sha Sha from ss was better. But it is nice to have younger picks like her.[/QUOTE]I used to go to Southside a few years back when it was "The" place to go. I've been hesitant to try it out lately. Mostly because it gets no feedback. Maybe that's a good thing and everyone who partakes is hush hush. Also because my AMP fix has been satisfied under the Palm lately. Has anyone had a good experience at SS recently?
BTW, Do you think that "Sha Sha" is really "Sasha" and it was just difficult for her to pronounce? Just Sayin.
I don't care about asian parlors, I am happy to invest my hard earned money regularly in the best two real massage providers ever in Jacksonville.
[QUOTE=TenIsEnough;2091321]Disagree. They only guy who gives 40 for HE is the one who can't reach his own junk. You should be able get everything for 50 once you gain some experience talking with these girls. Don't make the mistake of over-tipping just because you have already invested the house fee. That's gone. Always be willing to walk with nothing but the massage. If you are not happy to pay for a massage only, you are looking for love in the wrong places. Don't be a hard-ass, just be nice. It works. As that clock is ticking down so is her chance to get any cash at all. Keep communication open. In your story what went wrong is you both stopped talking. You both struck out. She didn't have an opening to come around to the 40 for "you&M" idea and you didn't offer her one or encourage her to try work with that offer. As for HE, if you end up settling for that alone, just remember me. TenIsEnough.[/QUOTE]I think you guess missed the point. He didn't offer 40 for a HE. He offered $ for FS and it was turned down. $180 oop and still not getting FS is rather silly. Yea yea, I understand a massage is thrown in, but lets face facts and not try to BS a BSer, we aint there for the massage. Yes, a nice massage is nice and that's all fine and dandy if that's what you want, I get it... But again, lets not split hairs here. So .80 oop so far and then another $ is optioned and still refused. So... Now he's looking at over 2... Uhmmmm. Yea I'd walk as.
Well.
Us regs have an advantage over the seldom visited, but that doesn't mean you need to pay exorbitant prices either when there are other options.
Try Jenny very nice sweet young lady. Carries a great conversation and will leave you with a smile. Great private location.
[QUOTE=ThePussyNator;2094202]I don't care about asian parlors, I am happy to invest my hard earned money regularly in the best two real massage providers ever in Jacksonville.[/QUOTE]I couldn't agree with you more sir! I've tried a countless number of providers over the past two years. Including some of the most popular gals discussed on USA. Some very good even. However, I've always maintained and I'll continue to say it, that Dunkin is by far across the board the best that I've experienced. It's hard for me to invest my hard earned $$ in someone else when I'm treated so well there!
Stay safe guys.
Ferret.
[QUOTE=ThePussyNator;2094202]I don't care about asian parlors, I am happy to invest my hard earned money regularly in the best two real massage providers ever in Jacksonville.[/QUOTE]I've seen M from Euphoria a lot over the years and she's great. I've been seeing M ever since she worked over on Lane Ave. If you don't mind sharing in PM who Dunkin Donuts is, it would be greatly appreciated!
[QUOTE=DrewPark;2092384]For whatever reason whatever vibes you emit are not working to your advantage here. I saw your previous no-luck report on nAgel Therapy and now this with Miso at Yoshi. You mention you had been to Yoshi before, so how were those visits? Just about every other guy who has seen Miso comes away quite happy with the looks and the service. I have seen her myself and have had absolutely no problems. Lovely and playful. Does she try to up sell? Yes, she does. Do I pay it? No. She gets the standard tip. No complaints. As another fellow wrote she knows she is popular so she tries to command a premium from some guys. In addition, the house fee covers the shower and massage. The fact she was tossing that you that line suggests she did not like you. I guess my point is if a fellow cannot get a happy ending in the well reported AMPs in this town, then he must be doing something very wrong.[/QUOTE]What is the standard tip?
So just stopped for a quick visit to PT, saw Amy,who left me speechless.
Very sweet young (says 25) and would have to agree.
Gave a great table shower, took good care of the boys on the flip. Went to the table and got it on from there.
Very cute and willing to please, wanted more then normal, but split the difference to just over a Benny.
Says she's here for about a month, then back to LA.
[QUOTE=TenIsEnough;2094082]You really can't buy love. No paticular amount of money will trip the lever opening up "further activities". Friendly feelings do that, and more.[/QUOTE]And again, the encounter was going really well with warm feelings all around, that is, until SHE asked how much I paid the other girls. It was at the point that I offered my $ figure that she checked out of the encounter, essentially. Having to negotiate with her was painful since I usually don't negotiate. I always just pay them what they tell me I owe them. That way everyone gets what they want. I never complain or gripe about the number that they give me. I just pay them for Pete's sake. What is so hard about that? She should have just given me a number so the encounter could move forward.
[QUOTE=Sandman666;2095455]So just stopped for a quick visit to PT, saw Amy,who left me speechless.
Very sweet young (says 25) and would have to agree.
Gave a great table shower, took good care of the boys on the flip. Went to the table and got it on from there.
Very cute and willing to please, wanted more then normal, but split the difference to just over a Benny.
Says she's here for about a month, then back to LA.[/QUOTE]Thanks for he heads up! Mind me asking about her figure? Au natural or implants?
[QUOTE=Slam64;2095199]I've seen M from Euphoria a lot over the years and she's great. I've been seeing M ever since she worked over on Lane Ave. If you don't mind sharing in PM who Dunkin Donuts is, it would be greatly appreciated![/QUOTE]Dunkin used to have a place behind Dunkin donuts on Univ. Thus the name Dunkin. Not sure she is still providing quality service though? Do a search and you can get some 411...
[QUOTE=YogiBr549;2092215]Looks like Mary (mother) may no longer be working with / through Jessica (daughter) at Mia Sophia on Beach & Kernan?
[URL]http://jacksonville.craigslist.org/thp/4466492357.html[/URL]
She (Mary) actually gives a good massage.[/QUOTE]It's been a long time since I saw Mary. I do agree she does give a great massage! I just wonder if she's just as handy as she was before. May have to give her another try. Anybody seen her recently?