Massage Parlor Reports

[QUOTE=ShaggyJax;2089101]Went to Palm Tree this morning and got Miso. Paid .80 to mamasan for an hour. Miso is petite and attractive and looks like she has a great body. She wasn't playful during table shower, more business like; she just got everything clean. We then moved to the massage table. She spent about 10 minutes on my back side while we spoke. Then the negotiations began. She asked how much I had paid the other girls I had seen there before. I said "100 for everything." She replied "Whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat? She then said "For that, you get undress and mouth." I replied "No, for that I will pay 40." She then gave me an analogy of buying a car. "What you buy depend on what you get. Honda, Lexus, Mercedes, you pay different." I told her that 100, which I believe to be a fair amount, was all that I was willing to pay. I did give her the opportunity to make a counteroffer, specifically asking how much she thought was fair, but she never gave me a figure. I finally told her that she should just finish the massage so I could get going. She spent the final 30 minutes or so giving a lackluster massage with not even a hint of the possibility of receiving a happy ending. I then got dressed and left. She did not ask for a tip and I did not offer one. I wish I could say that she had a great body, but I didn't get the chance to see it naked. Nor can I comment on her performance, since there wasn't one. About all I can say about my experience with her is that, apparently, everything is available, but the cost is very, very high. Therefore, if you go to Palm Tree and get Miso, make sure you bring a pile of cash if you want anything beyond a table shower and a lackluster massage.

My AMP experiences here in Jacksonville have, for the most part, been disappointing. I am of a good age, in good shape physically, clean, well groomed, and well spoken. But when it comes to negotiating, I always seem to strike out. If anyone has any advice on how to have a better AMP experience, I would appreciate receiving it.[/QUOTE]I agree with Drew. $40 is a bit low for what you wanted. With that said. I did get the sense from Miso that she is very good at negotiations and likely, most of the patrons she sees, just give in and cough up the requested $ All I can say is, good for her, bad for us. It's called Capitalism. She just excercised her abilities and so did you. It also highly relates to supply and demand. Based on all the reports here, she is clearly in HIGH demand. Thus, her natural edge over us in the negotiating category. YMMV.

Summer has gone and was replaced by Bebe. Not to be confused with the Bebe at Palm Tree. Not a spinner but she is both entertaining and therapeutic. Standard therapies and rates apply.

Spent an hour at Lilly's last week just after they reopened. Spent an enjoyable hour with Lucky. Really nice massage and left with a smile. I'm not real good at guessing an age but she was built nice and fun. Got there around six and it was pretty deserted.

Does anyone know about the BP girl that does topless rubs in GCS. Advertises everyday but with no pics?

[QUOTE=ShaggyJax;2089101]Went to Palm Tree this morning and got Miso. Paid .80 to mamasan for an hour. Miso is petite and attractive and looks like she has a great body. She wasn't playful during table shower, more business like; she just got everything clean. We then moved to the massage table. She spent about 10 minutes on my back side while we spoke. Then the negotiations began. She asked how much I had paid the other girls I had seen there before. I said "100 for everything." She replied "Whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat? She then said "For that, you get undress and mouth." I replied "No, for that I will pay 40." She then gave me an analogy of buying a car. "What you buy depend on what you get. Honda, Lexus, Mercedes, you pay different." I told her that 100, which I believe to be a fair amount, was all that I was willing to pay. I did give her the opportunity to make a counteroffer, specifically asking how much she thought was fair, but she never gave me a figure. I finally told her that she should just finish the massage so I could get going. She spent the final 30 minutes or so giving a lackluster massage with not even a hint of the possibility of receiving a happy ending. I then got dressed and left. She did not ask for a tip and I did not offer one. I wish I could say that she had a great body, but I didn't get the chance to see it naked. Nor can I comment on her performance, since there wasn't one. About all I can say about my experience with her is that, apparently, everything is available, but the cost is very, very high. Therefore, if you go to Palm Tree and get Miso, make sure you bring a pile of cash if you want anything beyond a table shower and a lackluster massage.

My AMP experiences here in Jacksonville have, for the most part, been disappointing. I am of a good age, in good shape physically, clean, well groomed, and well spoken. But when it comes to negotiating, I always seem to strike out. If anyone has any advice on how to have a better AMP experience, I would appreciate receiving it.[/QUOTE]Disagree. They only guy who gives 40 for HE is the one who can't reach his own junk. You should be able get everything for 50 once you gain some experience talking with these girls. Don't make the mistake of over-tipping just because you have already invested the house fee. That's gone. Always be willing to walk with nothing but the massage. If you are not happy to pay for a massage only, you are looking for love in the wrong places. Don't be a hard-ass, just be nice. It works. As that clock is ticking down so is her chance to get any cash at all. Keep communication open. In your story what went wrong is you both stopped talking. You both struck out. She didn't have an opening to come around to the 40 for "you&M" idea and you didn't offer her one or encourage her to try work with that offer. As for HE, if you end up settling for that alone, just remember me. TenIsEnough.

Got off work late, didn't feel like entertaining the local streetwalkers so looked up an AMP, it was late but found Victoria's was still open. Met a middle aged woman Jennifer def younger than the mamasan watching tv, first time I've ever had a table shower, WOW! Really really nice, back rub was ok till she used her elbows that was awesome. Started negotiations, she went $6 said hell no jumped up to leave then she came down to $ thanks for all the schooling from past posts, good dream, did the final wash and sent me along my way.

[QUOTE=LuvTwoRedFish;2091230]Does anyone know about the BP girl that does topless rubs in GCS. Advertises everyday but with no pics?[/QUOTE]I believe previous reports indicated topless only, without roaming and standard finish. As always, YMMV.

[QUOTE=LuvTwoRedFish;2091230]Does anyone know about the BP girl that does topless rubs in GCS. Advertises everyday but with no pics?[/QUOTE]She is standard HE finish, nice looking gal. I have seen her a couple of time. I know at one time right before Christmas she was open to more service options cause of presents and auto trouble. But, not sure if it is just HE finish haven't visited her in awhile.

[QUOTE=LuvTwoRedFish;2091230]Does anyone know about the BP girl that does topless rubs in GCS. Advertises everyday but with no pics?[/QUOTE]I would really appreciate any help.

[QUOTE=TenIsEnough;2091321]Disagree. They only guy who gives 40 for HE is the one who can't reach his own junk. You should be able get everything for 50 once you gain some experience talking with these girls. Don't make the mistake of over-tipping just because you have already invested the house fee. That's gone. Always be willing to walk with nothing but the massage. If you are not happy to pay for a massage only, you are looking for love in the wrong places. Don't be a hard-ass, just be nice. It works. As that clock is ticking down so is her chance to get any cash at all. Keep communication open. In your story what went wrong is you both stopped talking. You both struck out. She didn't have an opening to come around to the 40 for "you&M" idea and you didn't offer her one or encourage her to try work with that offer. As for HE, if you end up settling for that alone, just remember me. TenIsEnough.[/QUOTE]Thanks TenIsEnough. I think that you may have captured my thought process accurately. I believe, however, that she was the one that cut off communication, while I remained open to further negotiations. She didn't offer additional signs that any further negotiations were possible. She gave me a "take it or leave it" final, without ever offering what the final offer was...other than to let me know that my offer was not good enough. One thing that I did not include in my original post is that during negotiations, she also mentioned something along the lines of "plus you have to pay for shower and massage" which brought a "Huh?" from me, since I have always believed that those two items are what the 60/80 upfront fee is for, but I may be wrong. Anyway, my experience was quite frustrating, as have been most of my other visits to AMPs here in town (which only includes multiple visits to PT and a single visit to Nagel). But like you said, I cut my losses at 80 and left. According to Drew, I need to go more often to gain face recognition to build a better relationship, but my question is "How many times do I have to visit...and get nothing extra, before I get something extra?" And if I tip without getting anything (as if I'm tipping just the table shower and massage), how much money to I need to spend before they open up to further activities?

Looks like Mary (mother) may no longer be working with / through Jessica (daughter) at Mia Sophia on Beach & Kernan?

[URL]http://jacksonville.craigslist.org/thp/4466492357.html[/URL]

She (Mary) actually gives a good massage.

[QUOTE=ShaggyJax;2092189]...She didn't offer additional signs that any further negotiations were possible. She gave me a "take it or leave it" final, without ever offering what the final offer was...other than to let me know that my offer was not good enough. One thing that I did not include in my original post is that during negotiations, she also mentioned something along the lines of "plus you have to pay for shower and massage" which brought a "Huh?" from me, since I have always believed that those two items are what the 60/80 upfront fee is for, but I may be wrong. Anyway, my experience was quite frustrating, as have been most of my other visits to AMPs here in town (which only includes multiple visits to PT and a single visit to Nagel). But like you said, I cut my losses at 80 and left. According to Drew, I need to go more often to gain face recognition to build a better relationship, but my question is "How many times do I have to visit...and get nothing extra, before I get something extra?" And if I tip without getting anything (as if I'm tipping just the table shower and massage), how much money to I need to spend before they open up to further activities?...[/QUOTE]For whatever reason whatever vibes you emit are not working to your advantage here. I saw your previous no-luck report on nAgel Therapy and now this with Miso at Yoshi. You mention you had been to Yoshi before, so how were those visits? Just about every other guy who has seen Miso comes away quite happy with the looks and the service. I have seen her myself and have had absolutely no problems. Lovely and playful. Does she try to up sell? Yes, she does. Do I pay it? No. She gets the standard tip. No complaints. As another fellow wrote she knows she is popular so she tries to command a premium from some guys. In addition, the house fee covers the shower and massage. The fact she was tossing that you that line suggests she did not like you. I guess my point is if a fellow cannot get a happy ending in the well reported AMPs in this town, then he must be doing something very wrong.

[QUOTE=DrewPark;2092384]For whatever reason whatever vibes you emit are not working to your advantage here. I saw your previous no-luck report on nAgel Therapy and now this with Miso at Yoshi. You mention you had been to Yoshi before, so how were those visits? Just about every other guy who has seen Miso comes away quite happy with the looks and the service. I have seen her myself and have had absolutely no problems. Lovely and playful. Does she try to up sell? Yes, she does. Do I pay it? No. She gets the standard tip. No complaints. As another fellow wrote she knows she is popular so she tries to command a premium from some guys. In addition, the house fee covers the shower and massage. The fact she was tossing that you that line suggests she did not like you. I guess my point is if a fellow cannot get a happy ending in the well reported AMPs in this town, then he must be doing something very wrong.[/QUOTE]I've been to Nagel, HnB (unfortunately), victora and PT and I always got something extra from it. The key is: a) Being kinda out of shape, b) playful / friendly negotiations, c) playing it cool (not being too much of a horn dog before negotiations), d) being known.

Remember the house fee has nothing to do with the girls, they get paid via tips. The lowest offer a AMP girl would take for FS is $, and that's for a below average chick. A high demand chick (Lucky, Miso, sky, etc) will demand $.60 to $ because believe it or not they do read these reviews and the more you rave about them the higher they can charge. Simple supply and demand.

BP girls and SWers are motivated by drugs / pimps and sometimes cause they need money badly, so you have leverage there, however AMP girls do it purely for money and if they're popular they won't need money as bad. So she can charge a premium and not lose out on much if she doesn't get it or has to negotiate down.

For a premium girl the lowest acceptable she'll take (from my experience) is $.20-40 especially if you say you don't have anymore with you (that's the friendliest way of saying take it or leave it), most of the time she'll agree cause you can't get what you don't have.

During negotiations, they rarely throw a number at you first. Of course they have their "price" in mind but will hold out for a better deal if you offer / allow it. After you put out your number, she will reply with her number. If your number is to low she will balk / act surprised, she will reply with a high number to see if you'll bite. If you offer her a number around the range they want they may accept or see if they can hold out and get a bit more.

Here's THE KEY, if you get a high price don't act shocked or outright say no, instead playfully say its too much. Then say $.20-40, she'll possibly hold out for .20 more which she may or may not stand her ground on. But for the most part that will be her price range and she'll agree.

If I had to rank the prices charged by the different industries the ranking would be:

1) High priced escort.

2) Stripper with T.O or private / VIP room.

3) AMP (house fee and provider).

4) Above average BP girl.

5) Average / Below average BP girl.

6) Above average SWer.

7) Typical / below average SWer.

Finally got a chance to try miso. Honestly I thought Sha Sha from ss was better. But it is nice to have younger picks like her.

[QUOTE=EaglesSb;2092637]I've been to Nagel, HnB (unfortunately), victora and PT and I always got something extra from it. The key is: a) Being kinda out of shape, b) playful / friendly negotiations, c) playing it cool (not being too much of a horn dog before negotiations), d) being known.

Remember the house fee has nothing to do with the girls, they get paid via tips. The lowest offer a AMP girl would take for FS is $, and that's for a below average chick. A high demand chick (Lucky, Miso, sky, etc) will demand $.60 to $ because believe it or not they do read these reviews and the more you rave about them the higher they can charge. Simple supply and demand.

BP girls and SWers are motivated by drugs / pimps and sometimes cause they need money badly, so you have leverage there, however AMP girls do it purely for money and if they're popular they won't need money as bad. So she can charge a premium and not lose out on much if she doesn't get it or has to negotiate down.

For a premium girl the lowest acceptable she'll take (from my experience) is $.20-40 especially if you say you don't have anymore with you (that's the friendliest way of saying take it or leave it), most of the time she'll agree cause you can't get what you don't have.

During negotiations, they rarely throw a number at you first. Of course they have their "price" in mind but will hold out for a better deal if you offer / allow it. After you put out your number, she will reply with her number. If your number is to low she will balk / act surprised, she will reply with a high number to see if you'll bite. If you offer her a number around the range they want they may accept or see if they can hold out and get a bit more.

Here's THE KEY, if you get a high price don't act shocked or outright say no, instead playfully say its too much. Then say $.20-40, she'll possibly hold out for .20 more which she may or may not stand her ground on. But for the most part that will be her price range and she'll agree.

If I had to rank the prices charged by the different industries the ranking would be:

1) High priced escort.

2) Stripper with T.O or private / VIP room.

3) AMP (house fee and provider).

4) Above average BP girl.

5) Average / Below average BP girl.

6) Above average SWer.

7) Typical / below average SWer.[/QUOTE]I saw Miss the other day. I had a good time but also noticed she will not budge much with price. Just curious if anyone has gotten her below $ send me a private response so I know what she will be willing to take.